2 questions- cross posted to relavant ng
Tori M.
washes off with window cleaner. Actualy the green comes off easier then the
black but it does not look green. Is there a product that is made for
drawing on glass or is crayon the best option for now?
2. Do you find it is better to join in on a activity or watch? For example
if Bonnie is coloring a picture I sometimes color one with her. I imagine
one way we are kinda playing together and the other way I am paying
attention more to what she is doing.
Tori
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Bonnie 3/02
Xavier 10/04
Scott Bryce
> 1. Bonnie LOVES to draw on our BIG window in the livingroom.. no big deal it
> washes off with window cleaner. Actualy the green comes off easier then the
> black but it does not look green. Is there a product that is made for
> drawing on glass or is crayon the best option for now?
White board markers. But be careful not to get it on her clothes. It stains.
> 2. Do you find it is better to join in on a activity or watch? For example
> if Bonnie is coloring a picture I sometimes color one with her. I imagine
> one way we are kinda playing together and the other way I am paying
> attention more to what she is doing.
Do both. I don't think one is better than the other.
dejablues
"Tori M." <jeffa...@amerytel.net> wrote in message
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> 1. Bonnie LOVES to draw on our BIG window in the livingroom.. no big deal
it
> washes off with window cleaner. Actualy the green comes off easier then
the
> black but it does not look green. Is there a product that is made for
> drawing on glass or is crayon the best option for now?
Crayola washable markers. At the Crayola Factory, there is an activity which
consists of a big curved glass wall, and you're invited to grab some markers
and write on it. Whiteboard markers, as someone else mentioned, give off
some nasty fumes.
Tori M.
"Scott Bryce" <sbr...@scottbryce.com> wrote in message
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> Tori M. wrote:
>> 1. Bonnie LOVES to draw on our BIG window in the livingroom.. no big deal
>> it washes off with window cleaner. Actualy the green comes off easier
>> then the black but it does not look green. Is there a product that is
>> made for drawing on glass or is crayon the best option for now?
>
> White board markers. But be careful not to get it on her clothes. It
> stains.
OK first i have to get her to wear cloths.. then we can wory about her
staining them;) Anyone have any ideas on how to get a naked potty trained
girl to become a clothed potty trained girl? ;)
Tori M.
"Broken" <Ih...@no.idea> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 18:27:07 -0600, Tori M. wrote:
>
>> 1. Bonnie LOVES to draw on our BIG window in the livingroom.. no big deal
>> it
>> washes off with window cleaner. Actualy the green comes off easier then
>> the
>> black but it does not look green. Is there a product that is made for
>> drawing on glass or is crayon the best option for now?
>
lol dont give her any ideas... she LOVES to put diaper rash cream on the
panneled walls as well.. I dont encourage that activity even though it
washes off with warm water and dish soap;)
Scott Bryce
> OK first i have to get her to wear cloths.. then we can wory about her
> staining them;) Anyone have any ideas on how to get a naked potty trained
> girl to become a clothed potty trained girl? ;)
OK, so don't let her get white board marker in the furniture.
If Crayola washable markers will write on glass, as someone else
suggested, that would be the way to go.
toto
>1. Bonnie LOVES to draw on our BIG window in the livingroom.. no big deal it
>washes off with window cleaner. Actualy the green comes off easier then the
>black but it does not look green. Is there a product that is made for
>drawing on glass or is crayon the best option for now?
>
Found this:
http://www.grandparentsmagazine.net/summercrafts.htm
Crayola Window FX Markers (Binney & Smith ages 5 and up. $4.99)
These markers are fun for a change of pace. If you have little
grandchildren that like to write everywhere but on paper, they will
love these. For the faint at heart - fear not! These clean up really
quickly with a window cleaner.
I had fun with these myself writing notes on the door like "Happy
Birthday Alex," "Yeah, Summer's Here!" and other things. If you're
really creative you could do messages every time your grandchild comes
to visit! This is an inexpensive and fun craft accessory!
>2. Do you find it is better to join in on a activity or watch? For example
>if Bonnie is coloring a picture I sometimes color one with her. I imagine
>one way we are kinda playing together and the other way I am paying
>attention more to what she is doing.
>
I think if you color with her that is fine as long as you are not
drawing so well that she gets discouraged.
If she is scribbling, rather than draw, scribble with her. Also
comment on how she is making lots of blue lines or red circles
or whatever she is making.
If you draw really well, it *can* be discouraging because your
child hasn't the coordination of an adult. I had one student
whose mom was an artist who wouldn't draw or paint at all,
but always asked the teachers to draw a *car* or a *dinosaur*
or whatever for him. We generally didn't do that and encouraged
him to draw whatever scribbles and abstract art he wanted to
draw.
>Tori
--
Dorothy
There is no sound, no cry in all the world
that can be heard unless someone listens ..
The Outer Limits
bRaTtY
> On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 18:27:07 -0600, "Tori M."
> <jeffa...@amerytel.net> wrote:
>
>
>>1. Bonnie LOVES to draw on our BIG window in the livingroom.. no big deal it
>>washes off with window cleaner. Actualy the green comes off easier then the
>>black but it does not look green. Is there a product that is made for
>>drawing on glass or is crayon the best option for now?
>>
>
> Found this:
> http://www.grandparentsmagazine.net/summercrafts.htm
>
ohhhhhhhhh they sound SUPER cool!
I want some
wonder if I can get them here! lol
Our problem would be teaching Ty to limit his drawing to the windows
though :-(
Alley
>
> 2. Do you find it is better to join in on a activity or watch? For
> example if Bonnie is coloring a picture I sometimes color one with her. I
> imagine one way we are kinda playing together and the other way I am
> paying attention more to what she is doing.
>
> Tori
>
> --
> Bonnie 3/02
> Xavier 10/04
>
My DD likes me to draw the head and body and she fills in the rest.Legs and
arms go in the appropriate spost these days. Today she did a big scribble
between the legs and called it a hairy bottom. I killed myself laughing and
stuck it straight up on the wall.sometimes I copy what she draws but mostly
she likes to fill in the body and face parts.
Alissa
Kara H
> Crayola Window FX Markers (Binney & Smith ages 5 and up. $4.99)
I have bought these multiple times! I used them for election time on my car
and used them to decorate the window of my dorm! We also used them to
decorate our cars on our last day of highschool last year! They are good to
write on plastic, too, if you need to because they dry fast. Certain colors
are more visible than others and you can't really write over things once
they dry (because it turns into more of a solid/hard powdery type substance
that you can scratch off with your finger nail, etc) and when you go over a
dried portion with the marker again, it just pulls it off. It is VERY easy
to get off (in fact, it rained when my car was decorated and it was nearly
cleaned off totally!) and I would highly recommend them to anyone
interested!! Be sure to keep the caps on tight, though, because they can dry
out a little more easily then regular markers.
-Kara.
shinypenny
Tori M. wrote:
> OK first i have to get her to wear cloths.. then we can wory about
her
> staining them;) Anyone have any ideas on how to get a naked potty
trained
> girl to become a clothed potty trained girl? ;)
Turn the heat down real low?
jen
kiticat
>
> 2. Do you find it is better to join in on a activity or watch? For example
> if Bonnie is coloring a picture I sometimes color one with her. I imagine
> one way we are kinda playing together and the other way I am paying
> attention more to what she is doing.
>
> Tori
>
A bit of both really, Katherine loves it when I join in with her and its
good fun for me too but sometimes she just has to get on with stuff
while I do other things.
Sarah
Wooly Baa Lamb
> 1. Bonnie LOVES to draw on our BIG window in the livingroom.. no big
> deal it washes off with window cleaner. Actualy the green comes off
> easier then the black but it does not look green. Is there a product
> that is made for drawing on glass or is crayon the best option for
> now?
Dry erase markers.
> 2. Do you find it is better to join in on a activity or watch? For
> example if Bonnie is coloring a picture I sometimes color one with
> her. I imagine one way we are kinda playing together and the other
> way I am paying attention more to what she is doing.
Completely depends on the kid and their wishes at the moment.
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Wooly Baa Lamb
> OK first i have to get her to wear cloths.. then we can wory about
> her staining them;) Anyone have any ideas on how to get a naked potty
> trained girl to become a clothed potty trained girl? ;)
This one is easy - ignore the problem. If left alone, it will go away
on it's own. Otoh, if you make a big issue out of it, kids tend to
develop weird attitudes about nudity and their bodies.
Mary_...@tvo.org
encourage kids to draw on appropriate surfaces, such as paper, a chalk
board, a white board, and NOT the windows. The reason is, if she gets
into the habit of writing on windows, and feels this is okay and
encouraged, heaven knows what she might do when your back is turned or
she gets her mitts on a non-approved writing implement i.e. her little
brain may extend the permission from one glass surface to another, and
from washable markers or crayons to something more difficult to get
off. Or...what she might do at someone else's house when mom looks away
for a minute. Preschoolers can have very odd ways of applying "rules"
or under and over extending them.
My middle kid in particular was terrible for writing on walls,
furniture etc. His little noggin would be very specific about the
application of rules and NOT generalize in expected ways when it came
to prohibitions. So, instead of thinking the rule is we don't write on
walls with ANYTHING, he'd think "Oh, I got into trouble about crayons,
so mummy doesn't want me to write on walls with a crayon, but hey, this
is a pencil". Or "mummy got mad about writing on the coffee table with
a marker, but I've got a ball point pen and this is the sofa!"
Sometimes I participate in activities, sometimes I watch, and sometimes
I ignore them and go about my business! I don't think there are hard
and fast rules about that, but you do want them to be able play alone a
bit and amuse themselves. Kids who are in the habit of demanding and
getting mom's attention 100% of the time can be a real challenge.
MaG Douglas
> > stains.
>
> OK first i have to get her to wear cloths.. then we can wory about her
> staining them;) Anyone have any ideas on how to get a naked potty trained
> girl to become a clothed potty trained girl? ;)
>
Superglue? They have debonder now so you could glue it on in the morning and
debond before bathtime. ;)
(Since I've actually had someone do something I jokingly suggested I feel
the need to add that this is a joke and I would *never* do something like
that.)
Seriously, I would go with Dalene's suggestion and not worry about it. And
only enforce certain standards that are non-negotiable like Dalene
suggested; when you have guests or you go out in public.
MaG
Wooly Baa Lamb
> I'm the mom of three, now 13, 11 and 7. My personal bias is to
> encourage kids to draw on appropriate surfaces, such as paper, a chalk
> board, a white board, and NOT the windows.
Who says windows, walls, etc are not appropriate?
It's a matter of priorities: those things are simply objects.
Creativness is a behavior.
Mary_...@tvo.org
I'm not saying don't encourage creativity and fun. I'm saying you might
want to steer the boat in a way that will head off potential problems
caused by a preschooler extending the logic of being able to write on a
household surface, rather than a surface designed/reserved for drawing.
Mary
dragonlady
Mary_...@tvo.org wrote:
I did OK with the kids by telling them what they could write on, rather
than what they couldn't. So I'd say, for example, we only write on
paper, or we only use chalk on sidewalks and the driveway. If I'd had
some of the window stuff (and I think that sounds like fun), I'd have
added, "We only use these markers on this window." I doubt that they'd
have been more likely to draw on walls with those instructions. (They
did a bit of it -- as many, many kids do! -- but it wasn't an excessive
problem.)
--
Children won't care how much you know until they know how much you care
Tori M.
"Kit Walker" <kitw...@phantomemail.com> wrote in message
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> In article <cvieom$pjt$1...@news.tamu.edu>,
> "Wooly Baa Lamb" <ch...@txbarnes.com> wrote:
>
>> Mary_...@tvo.org wrote:
>> > I'm the mom of three, now 13, 11 and 7. My personal bias is to
>> > encourage kids to draw on appropriate surfaces, such as paper, a chalk
>> > board, a white board, and NOT the windows.
>>
>> Who says windows, walls, etc are not appropriate?
>>
>> It's a matter of priorities: those things are simply objects.
>> Creativness is a behavior.
>
> government, or do you not have a graffiti problem in College Station? I
> think one must still teach what is acceptable social behavior.
For some reason I dont think my almost 3 year old is putting grafiti up. It
can be taught that you dont deface public property while still allowing
creativity in unconventional ways. I just dont think drawing on the window
is a big deal. I am trying not to over rule her and there are a few things
I am trying to get her to understand.. The window is not a big deal.. if she
draws on the wall I know where to find a gallon of paint.
dragonlady
Kit Walker <kitw...@phantomemail.com> wrote:
> In article <cvieom$pjt$1...@news.tamu.edu>,
> "Wooly Baa Lamb" <ch...@txbarnes.com> wrote:
>
> > Mary_...@tvo.org wrote:
> > > I'm the mom of three, now 13, 11 and 7. My personal bias is to
> > > encourage kids to draw on appropriate surfaces, such as paper, a chalk
> > > board, a white board, and NOT the windows.
> >
> > Who says windows, walls, etc are not appropriate?
> >
> > It's a matter of priorities: those things are simply objects.
> > Creativness is a behavior.
>
> I wonder how long that "priority" would play with your local city
> government, or do you not have a graffiti problem in College Station? I
> think one must still teach what is acceptable social behavior.
>
> Enjoy the rest of your week.
It's a bit of a stretch to go from allowing a child to write on windows
to graffiti! There are paints you can use to turn a wall into a chalk
board, for example, and we would have bought some for one wall (except
we had to move and became renters). Do you think THAT would have
encouraged graffiti?
There is nothing socially unacceptable about writing on windows when you
have permission to do so.
toto
<ch...@txbarnes.com> wrote:
>Mary_...@tvo.org wrote:
>> I'm the mom of three, now 13, 11 and 7. My personal bias is to
>> encourage kids to draw on appropriate surfaces, such as paper, a chalk
>> board, a white board, and NOT the windows.
>
>Who says windows, walls, etc are not appropriate?
>
>It's a matter of priorities: those things are simply objects.
>Creativness is a behavior.
My dd who is a scenic artist now would agree. She does
murals on walls and it's quite appropriate. Of course she
is an adult and it's her walls or walls people pay her to
paint or draw on.
toto
We used to put paper on the walls in my dd's room and she could
draw on that to her hearts content. She never had a problem figuring
out that the wall needed to be covered for her to draw on it.
MaG Douglas
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> On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 11:33:09 -0600, "Wooly Baa Lamb"
> <ch...@txbarnes.com> wrote:
>
> >Mary_...@tvo.org wrote:
> >> I'm the mom of three, now 13, 11 and 7. My personal bias is to
> >> encourage kids to draw on appropriate surfaces, such as paper, a chalk
> >> board, a white board, and NOT the windows.
> >
> >Who says windows, walls, etc are not appropriate?
> >
> >It's a matter of priorities: those things are simply objects.
> >Creativness is a behavior.
>
> My dd who is a scenic artist now would agree. She does
> murals on walls and it's quite appropriate. Of course she
> is an adult and it's her walls or walls people pay her to
> paint or draw on.
>
I am an artist that paints on walls also and I believe it has to do with the
way things are presented. The one time I drew on the walls with crayon while
growing up I was informed in no uncertain terms that that was inappropriate.
However, I was allowed to decorate those same walls with wall paint and
stencils a little later in my life. The difference being medium &
permission. Now I paint on my walls at home whenever the whim and finances
permit. :)
MaG
dejablues
bedroom and a spot in the kitchen set aside for her to draw on. After a
while, they paint over it and start again.
My niece is now 9 and is *very* artsy...she makes all her own holiday
cards, gift wrap, and can amuse herself and the younger cousins for
hours. :-)
Ray Drouillard
"Wooly Baa Lamb" <ch...@txbarnes.com> wrote in message
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> Tori M. <jeffa...@amerytel.net> wrote:
> > 1. Bonnie LOVES to draw on our BIG window in the livingroom.. no big
> > deal it washes off with window cleaner. Actualy the green comes off
> > easier then the black but it does not look green. Is there a product
> > that is made for drawing on glass or is crayon the best option for
> > now?
>
> Dry erase markers.
>
>
> > 2. Do you find it is better to join in on a activity or watch? For
> > example if Bonnie is coloring a picture I sometimes color one with
> > her. I imagine one way we are kinda playing together and the other
> > way I am paying attention more to what she is doing.
>
> Completely depends on the kid and their wishes at the moment.
Wishes at the moment? Subject to change without notice! Multiple
times.
Ray
Ilse Witch
> 1. Is there a product that is made for drawing on glass or is crayon the
> best option for now?
No clue.
> 2. Do you find it is better to join in on a activity or watch?
Depends on how much energy I have and whether I've been working all day.
Usually it's better to let them sort things out until they come and ask
for help, but I cannot always sit still and watch ;-)
On weekend days, DS plays by himself a lot, but after an hour or two he
will want to play with me or DH (usually me though). Then we play together
for a while, and then I construct something that he can play with for a
little while longer. Generally it's mealtime or naptime after that.
On weekdays I make some time for DS when I come home from work. Since DH
is doing most of the cooking nowadays :-D, I have about an hour between
arriving and dinner. After dinner DS goes to bed and I can relax. I've
noticed recently that DS is also quite content to just rush to me, give me
a hug and continue with whatever he was doing, without me meddling. So
it's a bit of both joining and watching.
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mommy to four tiny angels (28 Oct'03, 17 Feb'04, 20 May'04 & 28 Oct'04)
preggers with twins EDD August'05
guardian of DH (33)
THIS I DON'T LIKE SPAM@ilse.nl Mo
> 1. Bonnie LOVES to draw on our BIG window in the livingroom.. no big
> deal it washes off with window cleaner. Actualy the green comes off
> that is made for drawing on glass or is crayon the best option for
> now?
I do paint on windows, but the paint I use needs to dry horizontally, so
obviously I'm no help here ;-).
--
Mo
THIS I DON'T LIKE SPAM@ilse.nl Mo
> My dd who is a scenic artist now would agree. She does
> murals on walls and it's quite appropriate. Of course she
> is an adult and it's her walls or walls people pay her to
> paint or draw on.
I get paid to paint on windows ;-).
--
Mo