Big Brother REALLY IS Watching You!
Michael Smith
you...
Mike
http://defence-data.com/current/page5769.htm
CIA, NSA and DoJ required to clarify use of Project Echelon
11 November 1999
The US House of Representatives has added to the Foreign Intelligence
Authorisation Act for FY 2000, adopted today by the full House, that the
National Security Agency (NSA) which manages Project Echelon, the CIA and
the Department of Justice, will have 60 days to report to Congress on the
legal standards they use on communications intercepts involving American
citizens.
The prime mover behind this is Bob Barr representing Georgia's seventh
district. Barr, a former CIA official and United States Attorney, serves on
the House Judiciary and Government Reform Committees. Government Reform
Chairman Dan Burton has also committed to hold hearings on this matter.
"If American intelligence agencies are intercepting, receiving or
distributing communications involving our citizens without court orders, or
legal authority, they are doing so outside the bounds of the Constitution.
If Project Echelon exists as reported, all Americans who care about the
integrity of our Constitution should be concerned," declared Barr.
"Everyone who places a high value on our right to privacy should be
encouraged the House of Representatives has today taken the first step
toward requiring the Intelligence Community to prove adequate procedures are
in place to protect that right," said Barr.
"I strongly encourage the Intelligence Community to prepare this report
using unclassified material whenever possible. As more and more Americans
become concerned about threats to their privacy, the reassurances only a
public report can provide are essential. Our intelligence agencies need
public support to do their jobs effectively, and this amendment provides an
important opportunity for them to boost that support by answering our
questions honestly," Barr concluded.
Recently in a speech given to the "Computers, Freedom and Privacy 1999"
international conference in Washington, D.C., he called for congressional
hearings into Project ECHELON, which began in the 1980s, and is controlled
largely by the U.S. National Security Agency (NSA), in co-ordination with at
least four other countries, including Canada, the United Kingdom, Australia,
and New Zealand.
ECHELON consists of a global network of computers that automatically search
through millions of intercepted for pre-programmed keywords or fax, telex
and e-mail addresses. Every word of every message in the frequencies and
channels selected at a station is automatically searched. The processors in
the network are known as the ECHELON Dictionaries. ECHELON connects all
these computers and allows the individual stations to function as
distributed elements an integrated system. An ECHELON station's Dictionary
contains not only its parent agency's chosen keywords, but also lists for
each of the other four agencies in the UKUSA system [NSA, GCHQ, DSD, GCSB
and CSE]
A report issued in 1997 - Assessing the Technologies of Political Control -
was commissioned by the Civil Liberties Committee of the European
Parliament.
It contains details of a network of American-controlled intelligence
stations on British soil and around the world, that "routinely and
indiscriminately" monitor countless phone, fax and email messages.
It states: "Within Europe all email telephone and fax communications are
routinely intercepted by the United States National Security Agency
transferring all target information from the European mainland via the
strategic hub of London then by satellite to Fort Meade in Maryland via the
crucial hub at Menwith Hill in the North York moors in the UK." The report
confirmed officially for the first time the existence of the secretive
ECHELON system.
Michael `Mike` Crowe
gpie.freeserve.co.uk> writes
>
>It states: "Within Europe all email telephone and fax communications are
>routinely intercepted by the United States National Security Agency
>transferring all target information from the European mainland via the
>strategic hub of London then by satellite to Fort Meade in Maryland via the
>crucial hub at Menwith Hill in the North York moors in the UK." The report
>confirmed officially for the first time the existence of the secretive
>ECHELON system.
>
suspect that fact already. I have 'proved' by using another name, that
mailing lists, and all sorts of literature arrive from previously
unknown places. Why do you think the banks are so worried about this
medium?
Never, never, never put anything in writing, either on paper or via the
keyboard if you don't want the world to see it!!
But if you 'do' then post it about a bit!!
No I am not paranoid, no it doesn't bother me.
Mike :-)
Om Shanti
Michael `Mike` Crowe R.N. Ship...@mikecrowe.demon.co.uk
H.M.S.Collingwood Assoc...@mikecrowe.demon.co.uk
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Bob Spowart
Michael `Mike` Crowe wrote in message
>>
>I am quite sure that there is no-one reading this, who did not know, or
>suspect that fact already. I have 'proved' by using another name, that
>mailing lists, and all sorts of literature arrive from previously
>unknown places. Why do you think the banks are so worried about this
>medium?
>
>Never, never, never put anything in writing, either on paper or via the
>keyboard if you don't want the world to see it!!
>
>But if you 'do' then post it about a bit!!
>
>No I am not paranoid, no it doesn't bother me.
>
If you think that there is an oppressive surveilance regime already, then
just wait until the aftermath of the 1st terrorist nuclear attack. We will
not be able to break wind in Derbyshire without GCHQ, Washington, Moscow and
Paris knowing about it!
Spanner
Darrell Earnshaw
Michael `Mike` Crowe <mike...@mikecrowe.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <814d34$134$1...@news8.svr.pol.co.uk>, Michael Smith
<MSSmith@ma
> gpie.freeserve.co.uk> writes
> >
> >It states: "Within Europe all email telephone and fax communications
are
> >routinely intercepted by the United States National Security Agency
> >transferring all target information from the European mainland via
the
> >strategic hub of London then by satellite to Fort Meade in Maryland
via the
> >crucial hub at Menwith Hill in the North York moors in the UK." The
report
> >confirmed officially for the first time the existence of the
secretive
> >ECHELON system.
> >
or
> suspect that fact already. I have 'proved' by using another name, that
> mailing lists, and all sorts of literature arrive from previously
> unknown places. Why do you think the banks are so worried about this
> medium?
>
> Never, never, never put anything in writing, either on paper or via
the
> keyboard if you don't want the world to see it!!
>
> But if you 'do' then post it about a bit!!
>
> No I am not paranoid, no it doesn't bother me.
>
> Om Shanti
To follow on from Mike's comments, I think it would naive to assume
that this sort of practice is likely to stop - regardless of the
public/political outcry. Remember, all's fair in love and war... and
the intelligence services have been at war for the past 50 years and
probably will be for the next 50; it's just that the enemy changes.
-- Darrell.
--
This is a personal opinion, and is not that of my employer.
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Before you buy.
Michael `Mike` Crowe
<B...@rspowart.freeserve.co.uk> writes
>
>
>
>If you think that there is an oppressive surveilance regime already, then
>just wait until the aftermath of the 1st terrorist nuclear attack. We will
>not be able to break wind in Derbyshire without GCHQ, Washington, Moscow and
>Paris knowing about it!
>Spanner
>
>
in Derbyshire. We would were our gas masks. ;-)
Mike
GlasshouseJohn
Michael `Mike` Crowe <mike...@mikecrowe.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:Ca$ffKACk...@mikecrowe.demon.co.uk...
> In article <815t5f$l00$1...@news7.svr.pol.co.uk>, Bob Spowart
> <B...@rspowart.freeserve.co.uk> writes
> >
> >
> >
> >If you think that there is an oppressive surveilance regime already, then
> >just wait until the aftermath of the 1st terrorist nuclear attack. We
will
> >not be able to break wind in Derbyshire without GCHQ, Washington, Moscow
and
> >Paris knowing about it!
> >Spanner
> >
I watched Tomorrow's World Plus yesterday on Cable, and the did a study on
how we are watched.
The result said that anyone can be tracked 24 hours a day. The methods that
can be used are phone records, credit cards, bank cash machines, mobile
phones ( best method) and CCTV cameras.
The police in London said they are actively following anything up to 1,500
people in any day. Especially the ones who have joined those movements that
enjoy upsetting the government such as Green Peace, CND and others.
We take for granted that the survailence cameras are there, but everytime
you use an electronic device it leaves a trace of where you have been. And
if you leave your mobile turned on it is in contact with at least two masts,
and with global positioning satellites that can recognise anything that is
more than a metre square. Well there you go.
Regards
John H
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Michael `Mike` Crowe
<glassho...@netscapeonline.yourknickers.co.uk> writes
>
>
>I watched Tomorrow's World Plus yesterday on Cable, and the did a study on
>how we are watched.
>
>The result said that anyone can be tracked 24 hours a day. The methods that
>can be used are phone records, credit cards, bank cash machines, mobile
>phones ( best method) and CCTV cameras.
>
>The police in London said they are actively following anything up to 1,500
>people in any day. Especially the ones who have joined those movements that
>enjoy upsetting the government such as Green Peace, CND and others.
>
>We take for granted that the survailence cameras are there, but everytime
>you use an electronic device it leaves a trace of where you have been. And
>if you leave your mobile turned on it is in contact with at least two masts,
>and with global positioning satellites that can recognise anything that is
>more than a metre square. Well there you go.
>
method to do my books. I was at so-and-so at such a time. Every till
receipt gives you a time!!
BTW, in a previous posting I did, I do know the difference between
'were', 'wear' and 'where', but my fingers don't!!!! My brain now
talking to my fingers says 'wear' Gas Masks. (See fingers, you can do it
if you try;-))
Mike, looking over his shoulder ;-)