VERA You need to stop attacking people period.
guardian Snow
wrote:
> > Is there a process whereby ordinary people may update this FAQ?
> > Will it be posted on a regular basis?
> > Might I be allowed to host it on my website?
>
> You can update and edit this highly informative FAQ any time. I think it
> could do with a little editing and be improved. But I would not post it
> on a website - do not ask me why.
So, this is how you represent "Jesus" to the world by going around
attacking people. What does the scriptures say?
Mat 7:12 Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do
to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.
Mat 5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse
you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which
despitefully use you, and persecute you;
You claim to love the Messiah and then ignore his teachings and spend
your life spreading rumors, lies and tale bearing, I'm disgusted with
you Vera.
Stop it now. If Mark behaves like a buffoon, it behooves you to set
the higher standard in the name of your higher calling. The only
thing you are demonstrating to everybody is just how petty, quick to
judgment and evil Christians can be...
Your better then this Vera.
Linda Lee
What a judgmental hypocrite you are.
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> Mat 7:12 Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do
> to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.
I am doing to Mark what he finds is good to me, hypocrite. :-)
> Mat 5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse
> you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which
> despitefully use you, and persecute you;
Exactly.
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guardian Snow
wrote:
> > Mat 7:12 Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do
> > to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.
>
> I am doing to Mark what he finds is good to me, hypocrite. :-)
>
> > Mat 5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse
> > you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which
> > despitefully use you, and persecute you;
>
> Exactly.
Why do you call following the teachings of the Messiah, "nonsense"?
You show yourself for what you are Vera. I hope that you might see
the error of your ways and learn to stop treating people in such a
fashion.
Jas 4:10 Humble yourselves in the sight of YHWH, and he shall lift you
up.
Jas 4:11 Speak not evil one of another, brethren. He that speaketh
evil of his brother, and judgeth his brother, speaketh evil of the
law, and judgeth the law: but if thou judge the law, thou art not a
doer of the law, but a judge.
Jas 4:12 There is one lawgiver, who is able to save and to destroy:
who art thou that judgest another?
Jas 4:13 Go to now, ye that say, To day or to morrow we will go into
such a city, and continue there a year, and buy and sell, and get
gain:
Jas 4:14 Whereas ye know not what shall be on the morrow. For what is
your life? It is even a vapour, that appeareth for a little time, and
then vanisheth away.
Jas 4:15 For that ye ought to say, If YHWH will, we shall live, and do
this, or that.
Jas 4:16 But now ye rejoice in your boastings: all such rejoicing is
evil.
Jas 4:17 Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not,
to him it is sin.
Barry OGrady
<snowp...@eck.net.au> wrote:
>Jas 4:10 Humble yourselves in the sight of YHWH, and he shall lift you up.
If we are not humble we don't lifting up.
I am the most humble person possible, and proud of it!
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"Christians, it is needless to say, utterly detest each other. They
slander each other constantly with the vilest forms of abuse and cannot
come to any sort of agreement in their teachings. Each sect brands its
own, fills the head of its own with deceitful nonsense, and makes perfect
little pigs of those it wins over to its side."
[R.J.Hoffmann]
guardian Snow
Randy@ACC0000000018> wrote:
> "blofelds_cat" <blofelds_cat@_SPECTRE.com> wrote:
> > How does one repent of ones sexual nature / orientation?
>
> It is IMPOSSIBLE.
>
> THEREFORE .............
>
> homosexuality cannot be a sin as sin infers a choice.
>
> If there is no choice then there is no sin.
Are you telling me that you have no choice where you put your willy?
You simply must put it in the dark chocolate and drive down the ole
dirt road into the Vegemite valley.
Terry Cross
Heterosexual men have a choice about their sexual partners -- that is
why men who seduce minors are sent to prison for a very long time.
Such men are disgusting, shunned, scorned, despised.
But homosexual men have no choice. Anyone who avoids them is
ignorant, stupid, and hateful. Homosexuals are not to be pitied
because even that is a form of hate. They must be accorded the full
respect of differently-sexed adults.
Very strange.
How can they commit to a homosexual marriage if they cannot control
their sexual urges? No one can answer.
TCross
Randy@acc0000000031 Anti Homophobic Ignorant Randy�
>> > How does one repent of ones sexual nature / orientation?
>> It is IMPOSSIBLE.
>> THEREFORE .............
>> homosexuality cannot be a sin as sin infers a choice.
>> If there is no choice then there is no sin.
>
> Are you telling me that you have no choice where you put your willy?
Are you saying that you personally have to CHOOSE not to put your penis in a
homosexual though you feel compelled to do so?????
I have no inclination to do that and therefore I have no choice to do that.
There is no sin if there is no choice.
Sin is conditional upon choice.
guardian Snow
Randy@ACC0000000031> wrote:
You always have a choice as to what you do with your body... that's a
shameless cop out to say you have no choice but to have sex with the
same sex. You can always choose not to do it and it is your choice to
live in rebellion of the word that calls it an abomination...
this is not to say that homosexuality is any more an abomination then
many other sins and I do not judge you or anybody else that does this
act...
You will meet your judge one day and how you defend your actions... is
up to you. I wish you well in your walk of faith but please do not
expect that I would ever agree with you.
You have your ideas and I have mine and I choose to respect you as a
human being with ideas that do not agree with mine.
I hope you understand this... it is your right to determine for
yourself what is right for you but in saying so.. I maintain my right
to reserve my own thoughts on the matter and in this.. we should
respectfully agree that we can disagree and still consider each other
loving brothers of the family of Yahweh.
I will not cast any stones but then, I will not condone either.
guardian Snow
> Orientation is NOT a choice. Behaviour is.
>
> Jani
Sexual "orientation" is the thought within a persons mind that they
believe he or she desires another whether it be animals, homosexual,
relatives or that which is accorded normal status.
Sexual orientation is not a physical trait, sex is an act and
therefore by definition
sexual conduct is always a choice whether it be straight, homosexual,
bestial or not at all.
You want to reason away conduct of people. I might as well say some
people are born to murder other people... Orientation towards murder
isn't a choice by your undestanding...
Oh.. well.. sorry he cut up your family but... he couldn't help it..
he was born that way. It was his orientation.. that's the dumbest
logic I've ever heard.
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"Anti Homophobic Ignorant Randy�" <Anti-Homophobic
Randy@ACC0000000031> wrote:
>Sin is conditional upon choice.
Homosexuals chose to abandon the knowledge of God:
Romans 1:25-32 NASB
(25) For they exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and
worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who
is blessed forever. Amen.
(26) For this reason God gave them over to degrading
passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for
that which is unnatural,
(27) and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural
function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one
another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving
in their own persons the due penalty of their error.
(28) And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any
longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those
things which are not proper,
(29) being filled with all unrighteousness, wickedness,
greed, evil; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, malice;
they are gossips,
(30) slanderers, haters of God, insolent, arrogant, boastful,
inventors of evil, disobedient to parents,
(31) without understanding, untrustworthy, unloving,
unmerciful;
(32) and although they know the ordinance of God, that those
who practice such things are worthy of death, they not only do
the same, but also give hearty approval to those who practice
them.
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>You always have a choice as to what you do with your body... that's a
>shameless cop out to say you have no choice but to have sex with the
>same sex. You can always choose not to do it and it is your choice to
>live in rebellion of the word that calls it an abomination...
Correct:
guardian Snow
> On Sun, 16 Aug 2009 05:45:29 -0700 (PDT),
> In newsgroup "alt.christnet.christianlife",
> Article
> Subject: Re: TRU LIBURAL SCHOLUR, MARKIE, LEADS MEN TO HELL
>
> >You always have a choice as to what you do with your body... that's a
> >shameless cop out to say you have no choice but to have sex with the
> >same sex. You can always choose not to do it and it is your choice to
> >live in rebellion of the word that calls it an abomination...
>
> Correct:
I don't care what Paul says but the Torah doesn't mince words:
Lev 18:22 ‘And do not lie with a male as with a woman, it is an
abomination.
Lev 18:23 ‘And do not have intercourse with any beast, to defile
yourself with it. And a woman does not stand before a beast to mate
with it, it is a perversion.
Lev 18:24 ‘Do not defile yourselves with all these, for by all these
the nations are defiled, which I am driving out before you.
One can debate with the words of Paul but the Torah is clear and to
the point.
Jani
"guardian Snow" <snowp...@eck.net.au> wrote in message
news:c283690d-d323-46f9...@f37g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
> On Aug 17, 12:52 am, "Jani" <j...@jani.adsl24.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Orientation is NOT a choice. Behaviour is.
>>
>> Jani
>
> Sexual "orientation" is the thought within a persons mind that they
> believe he or she desires another whether it be animals, homosexual,
> relatives or that which is accorded normal status.
The vast majority of human beings are oriented towards other human beings,
either male or female, from a very early stage of development. Depending on
their physiology, some of them will therefore be defined as heterosexual,
some as homosexual. I haven't seen any evidence whatsoever to suggest that
anyone naturally develops an *orientation* towards 'animals' or
'relatives' - only that much later, they might demonstrate a 'preference'
for sexual 'activity' with animals or relatives.
> Sexual orientation is not a physical trait, sex is an act and
> therefore by definition
Sexual behaviour is action, certainly. Sexual orientation is not.
> sexual conduct is always a choice whether it be straight, homosexual,
> bestial or not at all.
Agreed.
> You want to reason away conduct of people.
Certainly not. Everyone has a choice, as regards their actions.
I might as well say some
> people are born to murder other people... Orientation towards murder
> isn't a choice by your undestanding...
>
> Oh.. well.. sorry he cut up your family but... he couldn't help it..
> he was born that way. It was his orientation.. that's the dumbest
> logic I've ever heard.
It's your logic, and your extrapolation, so it's also your dumbness :)
Jani
guardian Snow
> "guardian Snow" <snowpheo...@eck.net.au> wrote in message
Physical traits aren't choices... things we do are and thats the
bottom line. "Orientation" of any type is simply the beliefs of the
individual being acted upon. You are the sum of your beliefs and act
accordingly.
To say otherwise is to justify the idea that people can't control
their actions. [Ooops, sorry, I couldn't stop myself from whatever
actions I've done... can't hold that against me.. this is the outset
of a lawless society that will destroy itself] This is only not true
in cases of disease and mental retardation of various disorders, which
ironically .. homosexuality use to be classified as.
.. homosexuals are in control of their decision making faculties and
choose there behaviour and conduct.
Zadok
"guardian Snow" <> wrote in message ...
>I don't care what Paul says but the Torah doesn't mince words:
>Lev 18:22 �And do not lie with a male as with a woman, it is an
>abomination.
>Lev 18:23 �And do not have intercourse with any beast, to defile
>yourself with it. And a woman does not stand before a beast to mate
>with it, it is a perversion.
>Lev 18:24 �Do not defile yourselves with all these, for by all these
.>the nations are defiled, which I am driving out before you.
>One can debate with the words of Paul but the Torah is clear and to
>the point.
The Torah is also clear and to the point that adulterers should be stoned.
Sabbatb breakers should also be stoned.
A perty where everyone gets stoned can take on a whole new meaning.
Smile.
Randy �
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Correct. And it's all an attempt to justify sin apart from
Christ's atonement, which invariably results in eternal
damnation (Gal. 1:8-9). Thus, while they feign they're
showing compassion for homosexuals, all they're doing is
encouraging them to take the path to hell.
Randy �
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Article
Subject: Re: TRU LIBURAL SCHOLUR, MARKIE, LEADS MEN TO HELL
guardian Snow <snowp...@eck.net.au> wrote:
>Physical traits aren't choices... things we do are and thats the
>bottom line. "Orientation" of any type is simply the beliefs of the
>individual being acted upon. You are the sum of your beliefs and act
>accordingly.
>
>To say otherwise is to justify the idea that people can't control
>their actions. [Ooops, sorry, I couldn't stop myself from whatever
>actions I've done... can't hold that against me.. this is the outset
>of a lawless society that will destroy itself] This is only not true
>in cases of disease and mental retardation of various disorders, which
>ironically .. homosexuality use to be classified as.
>
>.. homosexuals are in control of their decision making faculties and
>choose there behaviour and conduct.
Their attempt to justify homosexuality instead of urging men
to accept Christ's atonement for it, so they might be
cleansed, forgiven, and saved, betrays their feigned
"compassion". Men become gay when they refuse to retain the
knowledge of God, become ungrateful, worship the creature more
than the creator, and God therefore gives them over to their
own corrupt desires that they so desperately wanted:
Romans 1:18-32 NASB
(18) For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all
ungodliness and unrighteousness of men who suppress the truth
in unrighteousness,
(19) because that which is known about God is evident within
them; for God made it evident to them.
(20) For since the creation of the world His invisible
attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been
clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so
that they are without excuse.
(21) For even though they knew God, they did not honor Him as
God or give thanks, but they became futile in their
speculations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
(22) Professing to be wise, they became fools,
(23) and exchanged the glory of the incorruptible God for an
image in the form of corruptible man and of birds and
four-footed animals and crawling creatures.
(24) Therefore God gave them over in the lusts of their
hearts to impurity, so that their bodies would be dishonored
among them.
(25) For they exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and
worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who
is blessed forever. Amen.
(26) For this reason God gave them over to degrading
passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for
that which is unnatural,
(27) and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural
function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one
another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving
in their own persons the due penalty of their error.
(28) And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any
longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those
things which are not proper,
(29) being filled with all unrighteousness, wickedness,
greed, evil; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, malice;
they are gossips,
(30) slanderers, haters of God, insolent, arrogant, boastful,
inventors of evil, disobedient to parents,
(31) without understanding, untrustworthy, unloving,
unmerciful;
(32) and although they know the ordinance of God, that those
who practice such things are worthy of death, they not only do
the same, but also give hearty approval to those who practice
them.
--
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Article <h699ne$1hq$1...@energise.enta.net>,
>The vast majority of human beings are oriented
There is no justification for homosexuality, other than for
one to accept the atonement Christ made for it, so they can be
cleansed, and forgiven of that sin, and repent. Any attempt
to provide alternate justification, other than what Christ
offers through His atonement, will result in eternal damnation
for the homosexual (Gal. 1:8-9; Rom. 1).
1 Corinthians 6:9-10 NASB
(9) Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit
the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators,
nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor
homosexuals,
(10) nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor
revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God.
1 John 3:7-8 NASB
(7) Little children, make sure no one deceives you; the one
who practices righteousness is righteous, just as He is
righteous;
(8) the one who practices sin is of the devil; for the devil
has sinned from the beginning. The Son of God appeared for
this purpose, to destroy the works of the devil.
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Then don't forget Genesis 19. Homosexuality isn't just
condemned by the ceremonial Laws, but by the direct wrath of
God against Jew and Gentile alike.
Randy@acc0000000035 Anti Homophobic Ignorant Randy�
<snip Randy's usual homophobic hate-speech>
Randy is trying to justify his hate-filled homophobia.
As rare as a fundamentalist who loves his neighbour.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Some Simple Facts About The Bible And Homosexuality
by Bruce W. Lowe
...
The Sodom Story - Genesis 19
Many use this story to condemn homosexuals, saying the mob at Lot's door
wanted to "know" his male guests, i.e., to have homosexual sex with them.
The scripture tells us "all the people, to the last man, [my italics]
surrounded the house." (RSV) If current percentages prevailed, at least 90%
of these men were heterosexual.
Leviticus 18:22 and 20:13 - 22 You shall not lie with a male as with a
woman, it is an abomination. 13 If a man lies with a male as with a woman,
both of them have committed an abomination, they shall be put to death.
There is no indication of the orientation of the persons performing the act.
Romans 1:26,27 26 . . . women exchanged natural relations for unnatural, 27
and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed
with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men . . .
Paul here explicitly speaks of heterosexual women and men who gave up
natural sex (i.e., sex with the opposite gender) and exchanged it for
same-gender sex. "The persons Paul condemns are manifestly not homosexual .
. . Paul [discussed] only homosexual acts committed by heterosexual
persons."
I Corinthians 6:9; I Timothy 1:10
Two Greek words, malakoi and arsenokoitai, are translated by some as
"homosexual." The first, found in the Corinthian passage, means "soft"; the
KJV translates it "effeminate." The second, found in both passages "meant
'male prostitute' until well into the fourth century." There is no
indication of orientation (nor of homosexuality).
Conclusion
(1) We cannot equate same gender-sex with homosexuality.
(2) Except in Romans 1, the practice of same-gender sex could have been by
either heterosexuals or homosexuals. If we do not know which is referred to,
we cannot say the Bible condemns homosexuals.
....
Bruce Lowe
bam...@sbcglobal.net
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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(a) a very stong emphasis on the inerrancy of the Bible, the absence from it
of any sort of error;
(b) a strong hostility to modern theology and to the methods, results and
implications of modern critical study of the Bible;
(c) an assurance that those who do not share their religious viewpoint are
not really 'true Christians' at all.
- James Barr "Fundamentalism" (SCM Press:1977) p.1
guardian Snow
I agree.. I did say, I'm not casting the first stone... just that the
Torah is clear on the issue and Paul's words can be used to back
peddle the issue.
I respect what your saying...
Randy@acc0000000036 I
>> >> > How does one repent of ones sexual nature / orientation?
>> >> It is IMPOSSIBLE.
>> >> THEREFORE .............
>> >> homosexuality cannot be a sin as sin infers a choice.
>> >> If there is no choice then there is no sin.
>> > Are you telling me that you have no choice where you put your willy?
>> Are you saying that you personally have to CHOOSE not to put your >>
>> penis in a homosexual though you feel compelled to do so?????
>> I have no inclination to do that and therefore I have no choice to do
>> that.
>> There is no sin if there is no choice.
> > Sin is conditional upon choice.
>
> You always have a choice as to what you do with your body...
... but NOT with your sexual orientation.
WHEN did you CHOOSE to be heterosexual?????
Your answer is the same for when homosexuals "chose" to be homosexual.
There was no choice - ever - for me to be a heterosexual and there is no
choice - ever - for homosexuals to be homosexual.
If there is no choice then there is no sin.
Sin is conditional upon choice.
To prove that homosexuality is a sin you must prove that it is ALWAYS a
choice.
> an abomination...
WHY do you not also speak out against the abominations of:
- SLAVERY (condoned in the okld and New tesrtaments)
- USURY (condemned in the old and New testaments but lauded in the financial
sectors of the world)
Randy@acc0000000036 I
>> Orientation is NOT a choice. Behaviour is.
>
> Sexual "orientation" is the thought within a persons mind that they
> believe he or she desires another
One is born with an innate sexual orientation that does not change.
WHEN did you CHOOSE heterosexual orientation?????
Your answer is the same for when homosexuals "chose" to their homosexual
orientation.
There was no choice - ever - for me to be a heterosexual and there is no
choice - ever - for homosexuals to be homosexual.
If there is no choice then there is no sin.
Sin is conditional upon choice.
To prove that homosexuality is a sin you must prove that it is ALWAYS a
choice.
Sexual orientation involves NO CHOICE whatsoever!
> that which is accorded normal status.
Homosexuality IS normal in the animal world. Haven't you read much in
biology?
guardian Snow
Randy@ACC0000000035> wrote:
> "Randy ®" <pulpitf...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> <snip Randy's usual homophobic hate-speech>
>
> Randy is trying to justify his hate-filled homophobia.
>
> As rare as a fundamentalist who loves his neighbour.
>
I don't disagree with you Randy but even "a proud look" is considered
an abomination to Yahweh.
Pro 12:22 Lying lips are abomination to YHWH: but they that deal truly
are his delight.
Pro 16:5 Every one that is proud in heart is an abomination to YHWH:
though hand join in hand, he shall not be unpunished.
Many things are an abomination, eating pork is also... I'm not
casting stones at homosexuals, clearly it is a sin that got the city
of Sodom destroyed and leads to wrath because it is a particular
deviant abomination in that it is craft these people are practicing...
but there sin is upon them and they destroy themselves.
Psa 9:15 The gentiles have sunk down in the pit which they made; In
the net which they hid, their own foot is caught.
Psa 9:16 Yahweh has made Himself known, He has done right-ruling; The
wrong is snared in the work of his own hands. Meditation. Selah.
Randy@acc0000000036 I
> Sexual behaviour is action, certainly. Sexual orientation is not.
Dumbing it down even further ...
Sexual behaviour is action - CHOICE
Sexual orientation is not - NO CHOICE
Homosexuality is NOT a behaviour - CHOICE
Homosexuality is sexual orientation - NO CHOICE
Randy@acc0000000036 I
> I don't care what Paul says but the Torah doesn't mince words:
> Lev 18:22
From the SAME book in the Torah ................
######################################################
HOMOSEXUALITY LIKE THE ABOMINATION OF WEARING POLYESTER / COTTON BLENDS
Leviticus 19:19 ... neither shall a garment mingled of linen and woollen
come upon thee.
########################################################
HOMOSEXUALITY LIKE THE ABOMINATION OF CUTTING YOUR BEARD
Leviticus 19:27 Ye shall not round the corners of your heads, neither shalt
thou mar the corners of thy beard.
##############################################################################################################
HOMOSEXUALITY LIKE THE ABOMINATION OF WORKING ON A SATURDAY
Leviticus 23:3 Six days shall work be done: but the seventh day is the
sabbath of rest, an holy convocation; ye shall do no work therein: it is the
sabbath of the LORD in all your dwellings.
########################################################
Leviticus 18:29 For whosoever shall commit ANY OF THESE ABOMINATIONS, even
the souls that commit them shall be cut off from among their people.
Leviticus 20:22 Ye shall therefore keep ALL MY STATUTES, AND ALL MY
JUDGEMENTS AND DO THEM.
Leviticus 22:31 Therefore shall ye KEEP MY COMMANDMENTS AND DO THEM
##########################################
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The most pronounced characteristics [of fundamentalists] are the following:
(a) a very stong emphasis on the inerrancy of the Bible, the absence from it
of any sort of error;
(b) a strong hostility to modern theology and to the methods, results and
implications of modern critical study of the Bible;
(c) an assurance that those who do not share their religious viewpoint are
not really 'true Christians' at all.
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Randy@acc0000000036 I
> .. homosexuals are in control of their decision making faculties and
> choose there behaviour and conduct.
Sexual behaviour is action - CHOICE
Sexual orientation is not action - NO CHOICE
Homosexuality is NOT a behaviour - CHOICE
Homosexuality is sexual orientation - NO CHOICE
WHEN did you CHOOSE your heterosexual orientation?????
Your answer is the same for when homosexuals "chose" their homosexual
orientation.
Randy@acc0000000036 I
> The Torah is also clear and to the point that adulterers should be stoned.
> Sabbatb breakers should also be stoned.
>
> A perty where everyone gets stoned can take on a whole new meaning.
"Everybody must get stoned" - Bob Dylan
guardian Snow
> Sexual orientation involves NO CHOICE whatsoever!
>
> > that which is accorded normal status.
>
> Homosexuality IS normal in the animal world. Haven't you read much in
> biology?
You always have a choice in what you do, sex is an action and it
requires the person to act upon his thoughts. Nobody holds a gun to
the head of a man to make him sleep with another... If he did.. thats
just as wrong also and don't go off on some other stupid
mistranslation.. stick to the issue here... Did you ever stop and
consider that your own backwards thinking contributes to the problems
you have in your life Mark?
Psa 9:15 The gentiles have sunk down in the pit which they made; In
the net which they hid, their own foot is caught.
Psa 9:16 Yahweh has made Himself known, He has done right-ruling; The
wrong is snared in the work of his own hands. Meditation. Selah.
I'm not trying to rub salt in your wounds but maybe you should
reconsider what you call wisdom and repent of all this wickedness you
spout. I mean, look at you.. comparing rational human behaviour to
monkeys now... what's next... giving examples of men that are
incarcerated together?
I would assume that people are smarter than monkeys but maybe that
isn't the case... are you saying that homosexuals are a bunch of dumb
monkeys now???
guardian Snow
Climb off your high horse Mark and wake up... You always have a choice
in what you do. Even if you had no choice in your orientation, (which
I'm saying you do have a choice) as you say.. you have a choice in
where you put your body parts. You have a choice in being obedient to
the word.. you choose not to and thats your choice.
Randy �
In newsgroup "alt.christnet.christianlife",
Article <4a888934$1...@dnews.tpgi.com.au>,
>WHEN did you CHOOSE to be heterosexual?????
When he didn't choose to supress the truth of God, worship the
creature more than the creator, and be ungrateful:
--
Randy@acc0000000038 Anti Homophobic Ignorant Randy�
<snip Randy's usual homophobic hate-speech>
Randy is trying to justify his hate-filled homophobia.
As rare as a fundamentalist who loves his neighbour.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
What's Really Wrong With Religious Fundamentalism
... the Bible is selectively quoted, in this case, in reference to
condemnation of homosexual behavior. ...
Leviticus is a great book of the Bible to investigate, because so much of
the New Testament (thank you, Paul of Tarsus) sweeps it away. Yet it is the
exact book that is quoted in reference to anti-homosexual behavior.
For example:
1) Male homosexuality is a capital offense (Leviticus 20:13). (Note that
there is nothing wrong with lesbians)
2) Cussing out your parents is a capital offense. (Leviticus 20:9)
3) Have sex with a woman on her period and be forced to leave the country.
(Leviticus 20:18)
4) Feel free to buy and sell slaves from the countries around you.
(Leviticus 25:44-45)
5) Don't cut your facial hair. (Leviticus 19:27)
6) Don't eat pork! (Leviticus 11:7)
7) Do not plant more than one crop, and do not wear clothes consisting of
more than one type of fabric. (Leviticus 19:19)
Now, you're going to tell me that Paul of Tarsus and the groovy guys of the
New Testament made 2-7 a-okay. But how is that? I see nowhere in the Bible
where it says that homosexuality is still wrong while eating bacon, wearing
a cotton-polyester blend shirt, and earning your "red wings" is okay now.
There is Colossians 2:13-17, which says it's okay to eat ham, and that
because Jesus died on the cross you don't have to do all the silly things on
the sabbath, etc. But then, in Galatians, in not so plain language, it
actually says that to follow the of the laws of the Old Testament is
tantamount to denying that Christ died for your sins. Since Christ has died,
all is well! And that means that if you believe in Jesus, then
YOU CAN'T GO AROUND QUOTING LEVITICUS AS A REASON TO HATE GAY MEN.
10 For all who rely on works of the law are under a curse; for it is
written, "Cursed be every one who does not abide by all things written in
the book of the law, and do them." 11 Now it is evident that no man is
justified before God by the law; for "He who through faith is righteous
shall live"; 12 but the law does not rest on faith, for "He who does them
shall live by them." 13 Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law, having
become a curse for us-for it is written, "Cursed be every one who hangs on a
tree." 14 that in Christ Jesus the blessing of Abraham might come upon the
Gentiles, that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.
In fact, to kill homosexuals, or have slaves, or not eat bacon, is bad! And
it's all right there in Bible!
Some of you might ask, well, then, what does the New Testament say about
homosexuality? Honestly. virtually nothing. It does talk here and there
(Romans 1, 1 Corinthians 6:9) about pedastry, which involved forced male
rape by heterosexuals and slave boy prostitutes. This has much more to do
with pedophilia than with homosexuality. And pedastry and pedophilia are
both of course bad- not because of the homosexual aspect, but because it
involves unwilling or coerced participation in underage sexual acts.
So, to conclude, to all fundamental Christians everywhere:
Galatians 5:14 For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou
shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
from
http://dianto.org/blog/index.php/2005/09/07/whats-really-wrong-with-religious-fundamentalism
Randy@acc0000000038 I
>> Sexual behaviour is action - CHOICE
>> Sexual orientation is not action - NO CHOICE
>> Homosexuality is NOT a behaviour - CHOICE
>> Homosexuality is sexual orientation - NO CHOICE
>> WHEN did you CHOOSE your heterosexual orientation?????
>> Your answer is the same for when homosexuals "chose" their
>> homosexual orientation.
>> If there is no choice then there is no sin.
...
> You always have a choice in what you do.
WHEN did you CHOOSE your heterosexual orientation?????
You haven't answered the question.
Your answer is the key to understanding homosexuality.
Barry OGrady
We are all sinners therefore sinning is not a choice.
Thus sinning is not a sin.
==========
"Christians, it is needless to say, utterly detest each other. They
slander each other constantly with the vilest forms of abuse and cannot
come to any sort of agreement in their teachings. Each sect brands its
own, fills the head of its own with deceitful nonsense, and makes perfect
little pigs of those it wins over to its side."
[R.J.Hoffmann]
Randy �
In newsgroup "alt.christnet.christianlife",
Article <4a888ba8$1...@dnews.tpgi.com.au>,
"I" <Anti-Homophobic Randy@ACC0000000036> wrote:
Liars:
<POOF> There go your lies Markie!
BUWAA HA HA HA HA HA HA!
Barry OGrady
<snowp...@eck.net.au> wrote:
>I don't disagree with you Randy but even "a proud look" is considered
>an abomination to Yahweh.
The proudest of all with no justification is God.
Now we see God's problem. God finds himself an abomination.
That's why God hates everybody. God hates himself.
So, Christians, your job is to get God to accept himself, for only
then can God start to do good things for us.
Barry OGrady
Randy@ACC0000000036> wrote:
>"Jani" wrote:
>
>> Sexual behaviour is action, certainly. Sexual orientation is not.
Getting AIDS from unsafe sex - CHOICE
Psychiatrists consider homosexuality a mental illness.
Randy@acc0000000039 Anti Homophobic Ignorant Randy�
<snippeth Randy's usual hate-filled homophobic rant>
As rare as a fundamentalist who loves his neighbour.
Galatians 5:14 For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou
shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
--
Barry OGrady
wrote:
>
>"guardian Snow" <> wrote in message ...
>>I don't care what Paul says but the Torah doesn't mince words:
>
>>Lev 18:22 �And do not lie with a male as with a woman, it is an
>>abomination.
>>Lev 18:23 �And do not have intercourse with any beast, to defile
>>yourself with it. And a woman does not stand before a beast to mate
>>with it, it is a perversion.
>>Lev 18:24 �Do not defile yourselves with all these, for by all these
>.>the nations are defiled, which I am driving out before you.
>
>>One can debate with the words of Paul but the Torah is clear and to
>>the point.
>
>The Torah is also clear and to the point that adulterers should be stoned.
>Sabbatb breakers should also be stoned.
If you can find the sabbatb.
>A perty where everyone gets stoned can take on a whole new meaning.
A perty woman can jazz up a party.
>Smile.
Barry OGrady
So that's rather like;
Being a sinner - NO CHOICE
Sinning - CHOICE
?
blofelds_cat
> On Aug 16, 8:17 pm, "Anti Homophobic Ignorant Randy�" <Anti-Homophobic
>>>>>
>>>> It is IMPOSSIBLE.
>>>> THEREFORE .............
>>>> homosexuality cannot be a sin as sin infers a choice.
>>>>
>>>
>> Are you saying that you personally have to CHOOSE not to put your penis in a
>> homosexual though you feel compelled to do so?????
>>
>> I have no inclination to do that and therefore I have no choice to do that.
>>
>> There is no sin if there is no choice.
>>
>>
>
> shameless cop out to say you have no choice but to have sex with the
> same sex. You can always choose not to do it and it is your choice to
> live in rebellion of the word that calls it an abomination...
>
If Christianity wants to assert that sexual orientation itself is a sin,
then it has a big problem, because if God made everything then God made
gays, and if God is condemning what he has created, then why? Did God
make a mistake when he made gays? If so, then Christianity has a god who
makes mistakes, and if not then once again, why is God condemning his
handiwork?
> this is not to say that homosexuality is any more an abomination then
> many other sins and I do not judge you or anybody else that does this
> act...
>
> You will meet your judge one day and how you defend your actions...
I guess one could always say.. 'well that is how you made me'
> is
> up to you. I wish you well in your walk of faith but please do not
> expect that I would ever agree with you.
>
> You have your ideas and I have mine and I choose to respect you as a
> human being with ideas that do not agree with mine.
>
> I hope you understand this... it is your right to determine for
> yourself what is right for you but in saying so.. I maintain my right
> to reserve my own thoughts on the matter and in this.. we should
> respectfully agree that we can disagree and still consider each other
> loving brothers of the family of Yahweh.
>
> I will not cast any stones but then, I will not condone either.
>
>
--
rgds,
Pete
=====
http://pw352.blogspot.com
"We have gone from record surpluses to record deficits in record speed! The Rudd government has spent $10 million every hour since Kevin Rudd was elected. And what it means for everyday Australians is that you'll have to, for many years to come, work harder, work longer, and for less pay, and your bills will be bigger, and you'll pay more tax ultimately. This government is drunk on spending, and every Australian is going to have to pay a very significant price for it"
- Joe Hockey, Shadow Treasurer
"I will save water if two things happen: a dam gets built and Labor goes"
"Brumby claims police on every corner wouldn't reduce violence, but speed cameras everywhere reduces speeding. Oh, that's right, no revenue in locking up thugs"
"like a moth to the flame, KRudd is attracted by limelight"
- media/usenet comments
Zadok
The Torah is also clear that sacrificing a son or a daughter to a God is an
abomination.
Then it says if a man lies with another man it is also an abomination.
So why do religionists condemn one, and turn around and tell us God chnaged
his mind,
and sacrificing Jesus was not an abomination.
It's pretty obvious, that the priesthood, only voiced what their rulers
required of them.
And that was to write against same sex relations, as all men were expected
to get married and have offspring to make the so called ruler more powerful.
And once to get your head around that, you will realize that a law from
2,000/3,000 years ago,
has no relevance in the modern world.
But you will always have some who think religion is somehow frozen in time.
But the torah itself tells you differently. There were always prophets and
judges getting messages, and
teaching the people. But religionists want us to believe this procession of
prophets and judges
ceased with Saulus the apostate.
Thus when the OT taught stoning of an adulterer, Jesus said let he that is
without sin cast the first stone.
And if you apply that simple teaching of Jesus, and realize that he came to
sinners and not the self righteous
clowns like Randy and Davey Boy, and in many cases even yourself.
Religion is slowly dying, and to try and scare people today with threats of
hellfire,
is amusing at best.
Can anyone reconcile a loving God and the concept of Hell??
Smile.
Rod
Whatv you are failing to perceive is that it is about PURITY before
YHVH, who is PURE HIMSELF..
::: Jesus is LORD :::
jm3h85p5gott53m8q...@4ax.com
Correct.
I am just glad that I live in a free country where we are still allowed
to read the Bible and to speak about it, and where we do not have to
fear that the Bible is declared "hate speech" and we are taken to court
for quoting the Bible.
Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for
light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for
bitter! (Isaiah 5:20 KJV)
Randy@acc0000000040 Anti Homophobic Ignorant Randy�
Ms. Moneypenny
"guardian Snow" <snowp...@eck.net.au> wrote in message
news:4e90a061-9470-4b68...@k6g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
Snow- I agree with you 100%. Its about conduct. Even if you "think"
you were born homosexual you do not have to act upon it.
choice-conduct
Moneypenny
Randy@acc0000000044 I
>> SO? Fundamentalists are NOT the sole voice of God or of Christianinity
>
> ******Yes it is
ABSOLUTE NONSENSE!
The most pronounced characteristics [of fundamentalists] are the following:
....
(c) an assurance that those who do not share their religious viewpoint are
not really 'true Christians' at all.
- James Barr "Fundamentalism" (SCM Press:1977) p.1
>> Michael Kirby ....
>> ******He is simply a judge who has HIV himself
YOU HAVE JUST VILIFIED AN AUSTRALIAN HIGH COURT JUDGE!!!!
Michael Kirby does NOT have HIV and to say otherwise is DEFAMATION and
ILLEGAL HOMOSEXUAL VILIFICATION.
That is the type of FUNDAMENTALIST HATRED that is so typical of IGNORANT
UNEDUCATED FUNDAMENTALISTS like YOU.
As rare as a fundamentalist who loves his / her neighbour.
Ms. Moneypenny
"I" <Anti-Homophobic Randy@ACC0000000044> wrote in message
news:4a88c0ca$1...@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
If the judge does not have HIV then I regretfully have mistaken and
apologize however, I thought it was YOU who told me he did!But at any
rate, its a nice article about your brother but its still only an
article.
What you do to your brother memory on the NG over shadows anything
good someone might have done for him.
Moneypenny
Randy@acc0000000045 Anti Hate Filled Homophobic Vera Six
>>>> Michael Kirby ....
>>>> ******He is simply a judge who has HIV himself
>> YOU HAVE JUST VILIFIED AN AUSTRALIAN HIGH COURT JUDGE!!!!
>>
>> Michael Kirby does NOT have HIV and to say otherwise is DEFAMATION and
>> ILLEGAL HOMOSEXUAL VILIFICATION.
...
> If the judge does not have HIV then I regretfully have mistaken and
> apologize
IF I had passed that onto Michael Kirby and IF you lived in Australia you
would be taken to court over such hate-filled vilification.
Australian laws do not tolerate your homophobic bigotry and punishes it
severly.
As rare as a fundamentalist who loves his / her neighbour.
--
The most pronounced characteristics [of fundamentalists] are the following:
(a) a very stong emphasis on the inerrancy of the Bible, the absence from it
of any sort of error;
(b) a strong hostility to modern theology and to the methods, results and
implications of modern critical study of the Bible;
Ms. Moneypenny
"Ms. Moneypenny" <money...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:h6afod$389$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
He is not a justice he is a law professor in Tasmania and he is openly
gay. Now word of him being HIV pos.
So I guess both our facts were wrong. He hasn't been a justice for
ages.
Moneypenny
dolf
NEWSGROUP RELIGIOUS, RACIAL AND SEXUAL HATE SPEECH?
Because if there is, I accuse you of Internet and telephony based
religious persecution against the natural and common law autonomic right
of homosexuals under the State and Commonwealth.
From: SIR RICHARD SCHOLES <jairo...@cable.net.co>
Date: 12 August 2009 4:28:58 PM
To: Undisclosed recipients: ;
Subject: Award numbers: MLAT#2009
Reply-To: sir.willi...@windowslive.com
Microsoft Promotion Award Team
Dr.Helen Gibson
Stamford New Road,
Altrincham Cheshire
WA14 1EP
London.
United Kingdom.
OFFICIAL WINNING NOTIFICATION.
[snipped for brevity]
-- IS TRU LIBURAL SCHOLUR, MARKIE, LEADS MEN TO HELL
guardian Snow <snowp...@eck.net.au>g wrote:
> On Aug 17, 3:23 am, "Zadok" <nob...@accesswave.ca> wrote:
>> "guardian Snow" <> wrote in message ...
>>> I don't care what Paul says but the Torah doesn't mince words:
>>> Lev 18:22 �And do not lie with a male as with a woman, it is an
>>> abomination.
>>> Lev 18:23 �And do not have intercourse with any beast, to defile
>>> yourself with it. And a woman does not stand before a beast to mate
>>> with it, it is a perversion.
>>> Lev 18:24 �Do not defile yourselves with all these, for by all these
>> .>the nations are defiled, which I am driving out before you.
>>
>>> One can debate with the words of Paul but the Torah is clear and to
>>> the point.
>> The Torah is also clear and to the point that adulterers should be stoned.
>> Sabbatb breakers should also be stoned.
>>
>> A perty where everyone gets stoned can take on a whole new meaning.
>>
>> Smile.
>
> I agree.. I did say, I'm not casting the first stone... just that the
> Torah is clear on the issue and Paul's words can be used to back
> peddle the issue.
>
> I respect what your saying...
>
That given recent European questions of Microsoft's propriety towards
the STATE, and of course the representation of the natural and common
law definition of MARRIAGE in our legislation, raises a question of the
suitable adoption of an information economy using the vCube Grapple
Homoiotic Noumenon as the core fore staging values, beliefs and
psychosomatic framework for autonomic, corporate and states based
governance within the Commonwealth.
I am in superannuated retirement and a recipient of salary continuance
benevolence on the basis of religious, racial and sexual vilification
made in relation to HIV acquired as symptomatic of post traumatic stress
after a bomb blast incident in proximity during a period of police
service as oath of office sworn before the revoking of the 1900 letters
patent to the Australian commonwealth and concerning a subsequent
contract of employment which whilst including an AIDS exclusion clause
also imposes a definition of marriage--as breaching my Intellectual
Property, natural and common law right.
This particular intellectual property (ie. able to be held in mind) as
spatial reality and association made to temporal cognitive elements is
what I describe to the mind in time/space as being physically strapped
into a gyroscope and twisting about.
I have on 3 November 2008 provided a letter as preliminary instructions
to my lawyers with respect to proceeding with a warrant for the arrest
of Mr. Michael D�Argaville and the Panel Chair Mr. Michael Arnold over
the claim of Treason against the Sovereign Autonomic Right under the
Commonwealth occasioning deferral to the Federal Government�s August
2004 amendments to the definition of Marriage as slander and the denial
of justice by the Financial Industry Complaints Service Limited (now
Financial Ombudsman Service �FOS�) in relation to religious, racial and
sexual vilification.
Our intention is to pursue Mr. Michael D�Argaville and the Panel Chair
Mr. Michael Arnold for religious, racial and sexual vilification on the
basis of their engaging within marriage and oath in association to a
religious belief and that the fraudulent, collusional and arrogant
nature of this religious practice is the cause for the unlawful conduct
by these individuals.
We find it extra-ordinary that religious and political refugees to this
country--who have no intention of giving compliance to the laws of this
country can continue to impede our own access to justice, religious and
democratic freedom which is denied to us in Australia and do so against
the rights of Indigenous Dutch Australians."
Guardian Snow (American Yahwehist) OZ Parasite: "Let us both work
together to show our belief by our works, be blessed and THANK YOU."
(ru) dolf: "You need to appreciate what Dutch religious belief of 1730
CE with all its richness of Christian, Jewish and Chinese DAO
assimilation and its guild understanding of autonomic belief has as
connectedness to aboriginal art conceptions of vast distance, their land
and cosmology
I am not going to rest until the Chief Executive Officer to the Equal
Opportunity and Human Rights Commission is brought to trial for treason
occasioning religious, racial and sexual vilification of the autonomic
right under the State.
I expect her to be executed for such crimes against the state."
Rod (rodea...@ymail.com): "Dolf, I have absolutely nothing against you
and I value you as a human being, but Dolf you MUST see a shrink before
you get any worse, and this is not an exaggeration. Mental illness is
like a silent sickness to it's victims, and it will creep up on you and
eat your lunch before you know it has happened!
Please Dolf, call a shrink today and talk with them, show them some of
your posts. Get well Dolf, we are rooting for you!"
Carl McCluskey (sai...@nettally.com): "This is the delusional and sick
fantasies that reveal the mental illnesses of which you admitted before.
You are beginning to be a danger to others and frankly I hope you are
committed for your own good so you can get the medical attention you so
desperately need. The fact remains that you will pass away before your
sick fantasy comes true. Please get the medical help you need and the
medications that will bring you back to reality.
(ru) dolf: "You will remember that when you studied your geometry in
school you were told that a point was simply location or a center,
without length, breadth or thickness. Not having dimension, therefore, a
point cannot be said to be a thing {ie. POINT = 49J7W as determination
of the Sabbath Jubilee year associated to the 'oth cycle of 6D as 2184
day solar / lunar cycle recommencing each 6J = 294 x 364 or 293 x
365.2425 days on 20 March}...
"And I also related to you the Sabbaths of the land on Mount Sinai. And
the years of jubilee in the Sabbaths of years I related to you. But its
year I have not related to you ... on account of this I ordained for you
the weeks of years, and the years, and the jubilees as FORTY-NINE
JUBILEES from the days of Adam {Taken from 4 corners/ Earthy; red} until
this day and ONE WEEK AND TWO YEARS. [ie. 49J1W2D + 40 years = 49J7W
where the difference of 49.7 days occurs between the 365.2425 day
topical year and 364 day religious calendars]
And there are still forty further years [as 5W5D given 6D = 2184 days as
the 2 x 1092 days of the 'oth-'wonders and signs' as being a 3 x 364 day
solar / 3 x 354 day lunar + 30 day intercalation cycle] to learn the
commands of the LORD until they cross over the shore of the land of
Canaan {Merchant; trader; or that humbles and subdues}, crossing over
the Jordan {The river of judgment: See also the Category of
Understanding #369 = #8, #300, #2, #4, #50, #5 as 'n. Thought of
Judgment'} to its western side." [Jubilees 50:1-5]
The point within the circle occurs when radius = 1 and in the Jubilee
year 49J7W, where the circumference = 22/7 commences as #0 (ternary
number) with the new Moon on Wednesday 20 March Equinox and on every 364
x 294 or 365.2425 x 293 days thereafter. As a rational cosmological
understanding intrinsic to God giving Moses two tablets of stone written
with the finger of God. The point within the circle also plays a role in
German Philosopher Heidegger's (1889�1976) cogito as the starting point
of philosophy and the pervasiveness of the hermeneutic circle and
Aboriginal protests against the mistreatment of Jews in pre-war Nazi
Germany made to the German console general in Melbourne on 15 December 1938.
That aboriginal art conception of vast distance, their land and
cosmology demonstrates, if one considers the designation of the year
into seven portions:
- http://www.grapple.id.au/Chronicles/images/tetrayear.jpg
ONE: 1, 2, 3
TWO: 0, 3, 6
THREE: 0, 9, 18
FOUR: 0, 27, 54 = Chinese Tetragrammation (Yang, Yin, Zhun) of
Number (Imperial Governance of male - dragon, female (consort) -
phoenix: 206 BCE to 220 CE published 2 BCE); cf: [Deuteronomy 4:1-20]
FIVE: 0, 81, 369 = 9(9�+1)/2 - Organisation of the Myriad of things
SIX: 0, 243, 729 = Appraisals within vCube (9 x 9 x 9)
SEVEN: 0, 729, 2187 = 17 March (Saint Patrick's Day and ipso facto 25
March) + 2 x 'OTH CYCLE of 1092 (6 x 364 = 6D) days as Genesis and
substantiation of Christian identity.
A preservation of a rational natural and common law mind by nomadic
peoples--And that the usage of the latin term Terra Nullus cannot then
be used and understood as claimed in 1770 by Captain James Cook as
meaning that Terra Australis was "land belonging to no one" or
unoccupied land which was subsequent by Letters Patent of 1901 (since
revoked by new Letters Patent of 21 August 1984) as Terra Formus into
the Commonwealth of Australia."
Carl McCluskey (sai...@nettally.com): "I see you haven't had any success
arresting anyone at Hotmail nor any place else as you threatened. Empty
threats are typical from you. You need psychiatric counseling for the
mental illnesses of which you admitted. I doubt you were ever a sworn
officer. You are probably lying about that as well."
(ru) dolf: "In fact, continues Albert Pike, a point is nothing
materially speaking. It cannot be proven by any physical sense for no
one has ever seen or felt, heard, smelt or tasted a point. Yet we know
that it is the beginning of Geometry and while its very existence cannot
be 'proved' to the senses we are positive that it does exist, because
all geometrical operations must start from it. Were there no point,
neither line, surface nor solid could be produced. It is the foundation
upon which the three physical dimensions must stand." [THE POINT WITHIN
A CIRCLE -- General Albert Pike, A Masonic Study, p 2]
Marjorie Grene admits that when she studied in Germany, she was taken
with Heidegger but that quickly changed: "By 1934, . . I was thoroughly
disillusioned with all these �deep meanings�. It was out of necessity�or
sheer historical contingency, which is a kind of necessity�that I
returned to Heidegger�s work and to literature in some ways akin to it,
in other words, to what is called continental as distinct from
analytical philosophy. Since I had studied with Heidegger, and the
following year with Jaspers, I was asked to write about these people
when they came into vogue among us after the war. And since I had lost
my job and was tied down by farm and family so that I couldn�t wander
off looking for another position, I thought I should do whatever I was
asked to do that was in any way philosophical, in order not to get lost
altogether from any contact with my profession. Every time I wrote about
the stuff, I said, �.Ugh, never again'�.
About Heidegger and his discussion of being-in-the-world, Grene offers a
little praise, but not very much: Heidegger�s discussion, Grene sees, as
making a �move against the cogito as the starting point of philosophy?�
and he appropriately stresses the pervasiveness of the hermeneutic
circle but Heidegger is a contorted �jungle of neologisms�.
Worse than the arbitrary and unintelligible style is the fact that
Heidegger�s human being �is as disembodied as any Cartesian mind could
be� and the fact that there is a �deep connection between that account
and Heidegger�s undoubted Nazism or fanatical German nationalism. . .�.
It is true, I suppose, that she is somewhat more sympathetic to the
early than the late Heidegger whose writing she simply dubs �appalling
nonsense�! Grene is only a little less harsh with Sartre�s ideas about
being-in-the-world and, more generally, with Being and Nothingness:
�Like Hume�s Treatise, it is one of the transcendent works of our
philosophical tradition which show how, given inadequate premises, a
particular movement of thought works itself into an impassable dead end�.
In a Quadrant, July- August 2009 article titled 'The Assault on ANZAC:
The Legend and the Left' and in the earlier edition (June 2009) article:
'Gallipoli: Second Front in the History Wars', James Cook University
Senior Lecturer Dr. Mervyn F. Bendle discusses the revisionist attack on
the history of Gallipoli and the role it has played as the central
component of the ANZAC tradition in Australia. And asserts that it "is
impossible to avoid the conclusion that the constant reiteration of
terms like 'militarist', 'masculinist', 'imperialist', 'nationalistic',
'racist', and 'ruling class', with reference to the ANZAC legend serves
mainly to obscure the absence of genuine thought or research by these
writers, and masks the fact that a great deal of their work is either
highly subjective and anecdotal or simply ideological verbiage. It is
especially notable that very few of the intellectuals discussed above
situate their assessment of the ANZAC legend within any analysis of the
origins, course, real and potential outcomes of the Great War (or the
other conflicts in which Australia has been involved), preferring to
adhere to their nihilist premises that the war was pointless, wrong or
immoral."
But, as I have noted above, Grene thinks Merleau-Ponty is an enormously
important thinker who, like Polanyi, tries to redirect the philosophical
tradition. She did not study Merleau-Ponty until 1960-61, after she had
been working with Polanyi on Personal Knowledge (1958), but when she did
read The Phenomenology of Perception what she found was a companion
piece to Personal Knowledge: �. . . Merleau-Ponty�s book seemed to me to
convey the same message, but in the opposite order, and in a language
that I could both understand and use (or so it seemed at the time)�.
[Phil Mullins, Vintage Marjorie Grene (d. 16 March 2009): A Review Essay
on A Philosophical Testament Professor Marjorie Grene]
Bendle points out that this campaign to similarly blight the ANZAC
tradition by its 'contempt for colored people and foreigners generally
[and indigenous Dutch Australians specifically], for minority views, for
art, literature, culture and learning; and something not far from
contempt ... for 'good' women and brutal disdain for 'bad ones', is
explicitly being undertaken by the intelligentsia and the Left as we
approach the twin centennials commemorating the outbreak of the Great
War in 2014 and the Gallipoli landing 2015.
"To redefine our definition of Aussie Girl (tm) a little further, we are
focussing upon that particular brand of Australian lady who has an
'opinion'. More precisely, she has an 'opinion' that must be broadcast
aloud, must not be supported by any logic and is assumed to be of
critical significance to anyone within earshot (normally a 500 metre
radius around the speaker). A fool cum philosopher. Are they a specific
breed or confined to a certain class? Sadly, no."
And describes the objectives of his article as follows: "I describe the
basic revisionist approach and review many examples of it by prominent
and influential academics and others; I provide an historical context in
which this antagonism can be best understood; and finally I emphasize
how gratuitous, grotesque and ahistorical these attacks are, especially
when viewed against the background of the real threat that Australia and
our allies faced during the Great War, when so many young men fought
gallantly, sacrificed themselves and gave birth to the ANZAC legend."
Their name is legion, their number only limited by the sea shells that
litter the shores from which they craft their "oh they're so cute"
seashell bangles, presumably in remedial arts classes for the terminally
limited. Aussie girls' voices should sound like air raid sirens yet more
painful and much more frightening. The volume and pitch of transmission
to their assembled entourage is excruciating. However, if you dare to
decipher the crux of their voluminous debate, if you attempt to unravel
the thread of their argument, you will find that your mental anguish far
outweighs any physical discomfort."
The basic dichotomizing model attributed to the revisionist version of
the ANZAC legend has two main components:
1) Some perfunctory recognition is initially given to the bravery of
Australian troops who fought in the Great War and other wars and to the
qualities traditionally associated with the legend. Revisionists
apparently feel they cannot (yet) dispense with this token acknowledgement;
2) The revisionist emphasis however is on the second component of the
model, which is always critical, debunking and even denunciatory of the
legend, applying a form of methodical nihilism to allege that at the
core of the ANZAC legend there is nothing--only meaninglessness,
futility, error, 'a nightmare happening in a void' as George Orwell
remarked of Great War Literature. Alternatively, if there is something
at the core of the legend, it is shown by the revisionist to be
unworthy, wicked and iniquitous--militarism, imperialism, colonialism,
racism, sexism, masculinism--and therefore can and must be condemned and
ridiculed.
#1 = [the major premise {YANG/FATHER/HEAVEN/MALE/FORM - Formula of
Universal Law}, which contains the law of that will:
7 x 24 x 13 = 2184 days of the 'oth cycle = 6D or 6 x 364 associated to
the 'constant sequence of sun and moon' as 354 x 3 + 30 day
intercalation = 1092 days x 2 = 2184 days] +
#2 = [the minor premise {YIN/MOTHER/EARTH/FEMALE/MATTER - Formula of
Humanity - HEAD OF STATE}, which contains the command to behave in
accordance with the law, that is, the principle of subsumption under the
law:
x 49 = 6J or 294 x 364 days or 365.2425 x 293 years - Vernal Equinox
Wednesday 20 March 1996 / 21 March = 1 Nisan 5756; and] +
#3 = [the conclusion {ZHUN/SON/SEA/ENUMERATE/OFFSPRING - Formula of
Autonomy}, which contains the verdict (sentence), that is laid down as
right in the case at hand: ... 6,000 topical years as Telos ('achariyth
as 122J3W1D) = Arch (re'shiyth as 3W1D) + c� [9(9�+1)/2]:
has #369 with Septet #41 {ie. #81 - #27 - #9 - #3 - #1} centric on {ie.
20 March 1996 + (5*364) + 182 = 12 Sept 2001 as 1st day of 7th solar
month = #0 - Zero point} 13-17 September 2001 / 18 September = 1 Tishri
5762. ref: "On [Sunday 16 September as] the 1st day of the [21st
priestly] course of Jachin {he that strengthens and makes steadfast} on
the 29th day of lunar month, on the 5th day of the 7th solar month."
[4Q321]] +
#4 = 'OTH Chronological Elements = #10 as {Totality of Nature = Formula
of Progression of individual phenomena: #1 = {0: 1} + #2 = {0: -1, 1: 1}
+ #3 = {0: 0, 1: 1} + #4 = {0: 1, 1: 1} = #10 = {0: 1, 1: 0, 2: 1}}
vCube Balanced Ternary System distribution: #1 = {0: 1}; #41 = {0: -1,
1: -1, 2: -1, 3: -1, 4: 1}; #81 = (0: 0, 1: 0, 2:0, 3:0, 4:1}
A description of the revisionist approach has recently been provided in
the new edition of The Oxford Companion to Australian Military History
(2008), and it follows this pattern. While it initially concedes that
the ANZACs were brave, they are nevertheless presented as pawns who were
dragged into someone else's war and betrayed by the incompetence of the
'British military establishment who, contemptuous of the lives of mere
colonials, sacrificed them in the futile Gallipoli campaign and as shock
troops on the Western Front.
"Fortunately, Aussie Girl has devolved to such an extent, she has lost
the use of most consonants so that her monotone is delivered as a
high-pitched screech that meanders between a wail and a drawl. Gather
two of them at a table and they sound like Kookaburras with
megaphones...but make less sense." [Jamie Hilton, From the Back of
Beyond, The Whinging POM -- The Expat Bites Back, July-August 2009, p 112]
The war achieved nothing, and far from proving Australian nationhood,
actually demonstrated Australian subservience.' This revisionist version
is closely associated with the Left, and appeals to those 'who came of
age during or after the Vietnam era', and share a 'suspicion of overseas
military entanglements', associated especially with the United States,
and exemplified recently by the war in Iraq. While it is noted that this
version 'has been criticized as grotesque, even ahistorical', this has
not stopped it from being increasingly influential, especially when it
is augmented with the other elements of leftist ideology that already
dominate intellectual culture." [Mervyn F. Bendle, The Assault on ANZAC,
Quadrant July-August 2009, p 7]
Maybe the blokes are the smart ones. Focused and intent; able, with the
liberal application of alcohol, to silently weather the storm of worldly
wisdom that Courtenay has brillantly distilled from the hallowed pages
of New Idea and Ok magazine. The Aussie Males' (tm) bible is Ralph and
Zoo which, perhaps more honestly, consistently preach on the same theme:
'let them talk until they have exhausted themselves, then move in for
the root--RATHER YOU THAN ME, MATE." [Jamie Hilton, From the Back of
Beyond, The Whinging POM -- The Expat Bites Back, July-August 2009, p 112]
A variation of the 22/7 {= 3.1428571...} equation as rational PI
computation and the 364 day cycle from the DATE(1996,3,20) + (5 * 364) +
182 days = Wednesday DATE(2001,9,12) gives the Equinox of Saturday
DATE(2001,9,23) as commencing the Sabbath year and the reprise
associated to the following schema as a transcendent negation of the
Gregorian cycle of 400 years as the basis for replacement theology,
which is as 146097 days evenly divisible by seven:
#0 MOD 22 = 22 [#TAU / #400] as 4000 BCE
#400 MOD 22 = 17 [#PE / #80]
#800 MOD 22 = 12 [#LAMED / #30]
#1200 MOD 22 = 7 [#ZAYIN / #7]
#1600 MOD 22 = 2 [#BETH / #2]
#2000 MOD 22 = 19 [#QOPH / #100]
#2400 MOD 22 = 14 [#NUN / #50]
#2800 MOD 22 = 9 [#TETH / #9]
#3200 MOD 22 = 4 [#DALETH / #4]
#3600 MOD 22 = 21 [#SHIN / #300]
#4000 MOD 22 = 16 [#'AYIN / #70] = #0 CE as HETEROS autonomic
transformative prototype and symbolic associator to series #15, #34,
#65, #111, #175, #260, #369 ... #2000 Y2K
#4400 MOD 22 = 11 [#KAF / #20] = #400 CE
#4800 MOD 22 = 6 [#VAV / #6] = #800 CE
#5200 MOD 22 = 1 [#ALEPH / #1] = #1200 CE
#5600 MOD 22 = 18 [#TSADE / #90] = #1600 CE
#6000 MOD 22 = 13 [#MEM / #40] = #2000 Y2K / Equinox of DATE(1996,3,20)
/ @ (21 March = 1 Nisan) + (5 * 364) + 182 days = Wednesday
DATE(2001,9,12) with Equinox of Saturday DATE(2001,9,23) commencing the
Sabbath year of 'oth cycle has #369 with Septet #41 centric on 13-17
September 2001 / @ 18 September = 1 Tishri 5762.
- http://www.grapple.id.au/Chronicles/images/toth9.gif
Telos ('achariyth as 122J3W1D or 6,000 topical years) = Arch (re'shiyth
as 3W1D) + c� [9(9�+1)/2]
#6400 MOD 22 = 8 [#CHET / #8]
#6800 MOD 22 = 3 [#GIMEL / #3]
#7200 MOD 22 = 20 [#RESH / #200]
#7600 MOD 22 = 15 [#SAMEK / #60]
#8000 MOD 22 = 10 [#YOD / #10]
#8400 MOD 22 = 5 [#HE / #5]
#8800 MOD 22 = 22 [#TAU / #400] as 8800 CE
One who rebukes his fellow should not (at the start) speak with him so
harshly that he shames him, as it is stated, '[You shall surely rebuke
your fellow] and you shall not bear upon him a sin' (Leviticus 19:17).
So [too] did the Sages say, 'I might think you must rebuke him [while]
his face is turning colors, [the verse] comes to teach us, 'and you
shall not bear upon him a sin' (Talmud Erchin 16b). From here [we see]
that it is forbidden to shame a Jew, all the more so in public.
"Even though one who shames his fellow does not receive lashes, it is a
terrible sin. So did the Sages say, 'One who shames (lit., 'makes
white') the face of his fellow... has no share in the World to Come'
(Pirkei Avos 3:15). Therefore, one must be careful in this matter --
that he not embarrass his fellow publicly, whether a small or great
[person]. And he should not call him a name which shames him, nor should
he speak before him about a matter which embarrasses him.
"When does all of this apply? In matters between a person and his
fellow. But in matters of heaven if he did not repent [after you rebuked
him] privately, we shame him publicly, we publicize his sin, we execrate
him to his face, and we disgrace and curse him until he returns to the
better -- as did all the Prophets to Israel." [(c) 2009 By Rabbi Dovid
Rosenfeld, Crying Out, Project Genesis 2009.8.10]
(ru) dolf: "This is of particular merit with respects to Victorian Civil
and Administrative Tribunal reasons for decisions dated 29 March 2001
AND Grounds for an extra-ordinary hearing of 7 December 2001 relating to
several telephone calls made by me to Legal Counsel for the Insurer (AXA
Group Insurance) on 30 November 2001:
"Peter Riddell, this is Dolf Boek calling. I'm just wondering whether
you've been self-congratulatory about my previous submissions to the
court and have failed to recognize their transcendent lodgings built on
time. A religious model that co-ordinates or synchronizes over six
thousand years to the 9th of September of this year [2001]. That means
when this year expires, my court case will be a matter of an accusation
of fascism against yourself and the company, from which I will not cease
until I have your soul. You may return this message if you like-XXXX.
You have until the end of this year and then I will never again turn my
hand against the action that I'm going to take, meaning I will conclude
it till one of us goes to the grave."
"Peter Riddell, Dolf Boek. You do realize that if you're not prepared to
come clean with your justifications of your past treatment of me, that
as of the new year, we will not be having another contract because I
will not be co-operating with you further and we will actually go to
court at some stage mate. At some stage you are going to have to
recognize the fact that you are a blasphemer. Your religious context has
no continuing validity and since I'm able to rationally prove that with
a mathematical model, you're going to understand how forceful and hard
metaphysics is.Yit"
In support of that prosecution, we introduce here the notion of our
Project Biblos as a consideration that the vCube GRAPPLE HOMOIOTIC
NOUMENON is a technology embedded within the BIBLE and have since
demonstrated that in the production of BIBLE based categories with
STRONGS numbering:
http://www.grapple.id.au/strongsIDEAS.js
As producing some 26,000 lines of Javascript semantic data OBJECT of
such direct HEBREW and GREEK language association between all the
categories of the mathematical vCube {totalCategories: 400, totalCount:
24102} and the Bible.
Having produced this form, we'll firstly extract the STRONGS reference
from this strongsIDEAS {} data OBJECT and represent these in our
biblos.html (PROJECT BIBLOS) code example.
http://www.grapple.id.au/biblos.html
Following which, we'll analyze the vBOEK[SECTION][chapter][verse] nodes
for the dynamic expansion of these same STRONGS references within the
BIBLICAL text, to determine in which of these a strategic dispersal as
direct relationship with the vCube occurs.
Subsequently, we'll examine the sub-categories in the same manner."
Randy � [Sody] Barbara (pulpi...@gmail.com): "Love rejoices in the
truth. Telling people the truth is not a failure to love them.
Neglecting their need for truth, with "sweet" talk and being "nice",
while never offering them the truth they need to change their mind
about, is."
(ru) dolf: "I've begun sending this directly to individuals because they
are under the mistaken belief that as a gay man I can be excluded from
any discussion they have of gay religious and marriage rights.
That my religious belief as Torah and DAOist compliant Christian belief
is sustained by a technological core as semiotic natural and common law
cosmological model.
That there is no common ground between their claim to religious belief
and my own religious belief as there is between my own religious belief
and those expressed by Rabbi Jaakov Feldman in his interpretation of
Ramchal (Rabbi Moshe Chaim Luzzatto) as an immigrant from Rome, Italy to
the Netherlands in the 1730's and some 40 years before Captain Cook's
military incursion of Australia."
Fr. James (fathe...@ymail.com): "For those in Northern/Eastern
Australia, (Queensland, Northern Territory, N.S.W.) I am happy to assist
Lutheran Pastors and Professors of Theology become Orthodox either in
person or via email: James+Servant"
(ru) dolf: " I am waiting for the Victoria Police to arrest those
individuals such as Fr. James / Athanasius involved in my ANZAC Day
Arrest of 25 April 2006 and also Diane Sisley from the the Victorian
Equal Opportunity and Human Rights Commission for Treason. "
Guardian Snow (American Yahwehist) OZ Parasite: "Should any person
convert to Christianity?"
(ru) dolf: "Given my past experience of Lutheran Pastors as Chaplain at
La Trobe University and Victoria Chief Commissioner of Police Mick
Miller and Kal Glare (also present) over the War Memorial Shrine guard
incident, I will not be forgiving of the Lutheran Church in Australia
and suggest they close their doors."
Fr. James (fathe...@ymail.com): "You have need to."
(ru) dolf: "I accuse you of Internet and telephony based religious
persecution against the natural and common law autonomic right of
homosexuals under the State and Commonwealth."
Nous: #50
Time: 09:25 hrs
Date: 2009.8.14
Torah: #4 #50 #10 %81 = #64
Dao: Fantasies of Avoiding Death, Value of Life
Tetra: #77 - Compliance
I-Ching: H2 - Passive Principle/Earth
Latin: Invacandus {Sign of mercy} Alt: Haayah {Behold God} {
1. PROTECTS & CONSOLES. INSPIRES IN DECISIONS
2. JUSTICE AND LAWYERS
3. JUDGES
4. Eregbuo
}
Abiud {Father of praise}
- http://www.grapple.id.au/vCube.html?zen:2,nous:50
Kelly [rosy belle] Ann Siebecke (316...@gmail.com): "You totally missed
the point - whether you did it intentionally or you just are unable to
grasp the concept of what loving others in Jesus Christ is - I don't know."
Randy � [Sody] Barbara (pulpi...@gmail.com): "ibid. As determined by
the lie that love is some kind of sweet talk or being nice, that
neglects the truth necessary for people's eternal well-being. John said
'whom I love in the truth'."
Kelly [rosy belle] Ann Siebecke (316...@gmail.com): "That is why the
lost fight you in defense of themselves - because there is no
demonstrated love in your manner, your words, or your actions."
Randy � [Sody] Barbara (pulpi...@gmail.com): "Paul said love rejoices
in the truth, not iniquity. Giving people the truth they need for
salvation is love. Neglecting it, while substituting sweet talk is like
handing someone a poison flower."
Kelly [rosy belle] Ann Siebecke (316...@gmail.com): "Cut to Randy,
still not getting what loving others in Jesus Christ is all about and
how it is done. What they see is everything that is the opposite of
love. Saying the words is not enough - you have to live the words and
demonstrate. Until you do, you will forever find yourself at odds with
those you believe are lost in these groups. Not for the reasons
(actually excuses) you give or believe for why they remain at odds with
your "group", but because they see nothing attractive in the Gospel as
your "group" presents it."
Randy � [Sody] Barbara (pulpi...@gmail.com): "Yes you have. I cited
half a dozen references which clearly expose homosexuality as a sin and
abomination, and you tried to explain each one of the away, pretending
like if anyone would simply consult a language source and commentary,
they would see it agrees with you. Well, I haven't found a single source
yet that doesn't agree those verses each condemn homosexuality. Hard
telling where you dug up a pro-homo commentary, but to tell you the
truth, everyone has a point at which the urge to puke becomes overwhelming:
Before they had gone to bed, all the men from every part of the city of
Sodom�both young and old�surrounded the house. They called to Lot,
"Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that
we can have sex with them." Lot went outside to meet them and shut the
door behind him and said, "No, my friends. Don't do this wicked thing.
(Genesis 19:4-7)
"'Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable.
(Leviticus 18:22) If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a
woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be
put to death; their blood shall be upon them. (Leviticus 20:13)
While they were enjoying themselves, some of the wicked men of the city
surrounded the house. Pounding on the door, they shouted to the old man
who owned the house, "Bring out the man who came to your house so we can
have sex with him." The owner of the house went outside and said to
them, "No, my friends, don't be so vile. Since this man is my guest,
don't do this disgraceful thing. (Judges 19:22-23)
They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served
created things rather than the Creator�who is forever praised. Amen.
Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women
exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. In the same way
the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed
with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men,
and received in themselves the due penalty for their error. (Romans 1:25-27)
(1 Corinthians 6:9) Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the
kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor
idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders
We also know that the law is made not for the righteous but for
lawbreakers and rebels, the ungodly and sinful, the unholy and
irreligious, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers,
for the sexually immoral, for those practicing homosexuality, for slave
traders and liars and perjurers. And it is for whatever else is contrary
to the sound doctrine that conforms to the gospel concerning the glory
of the blessed God, which he entrusted to me. (1 Timothy 1:9-11)
In a similar way, Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding towns gave
themselves up to sexual immorality and perversion. They serve as an
example of those who suffer the punishment of eternal fire. (Jude 1:7)"
(ru) dolf: "I had the following phone messages with a male Jewish person
as prostitute, whom I had after 18 months of solitude invited to a
dinner and enjoyment with a bottle of New Zealand (Wisdom Wine) Pinot
Gris. Who after I kissed him, left in a state of abject fear, and ran
naked into the street, and was last seen huddled by a wall holding a
cardboard box to himself as a makeshift girdle whilst calling a friend
on his mobile phone to request he come by car to retrieve him.
0048 hours: "You don't think Balaam and his donkey {ie. a stupid or
foolish person; donkey's years: a very long time; hung like a donkey}
were jealous of you and me? ... But I think one of us has a complex.
Do you think my technology cognitive descriptors were a match for your
conduct for you to feel comfortable with me again?
I like you, but luv if that's going to happen with my being passionate,
we had better try our 1st date position again ..."
0022 hours: "As I said, I know my Kabbalah and I sent you the previous
in the hope that when you get over the enjoyment of me, that there are
some 76 categories associated to #312 and for #267 some 43 including:
Nous: #20
Time: 09:20 hrs
Date: 2009.8.13
Torah: #5 #1 #1 %81 = #7
Dao: Left without Language, Different From the Vulgar
Tetra: #50 - Vastness/Wasting
I-Ching: H33 - Withdrawal
Latin: Auxiliator {Hidden God} Alt: Yaliel {Thankful of God's Presence} {
1. PROTECTS ALL THOSE WHO SEEK THE TRUE LIGHT
2. PEACE TREATIES
3. DIPLOMACY & AMBASSADORS
4. Aphruimis
}
Ram {Elevated; sublime}
- http://www.grapple.id.au/vCube.html?zen:1,nous:20
These are attributes of mind taken from the GRAPPLE vCube at the time of
my writing the last message."
2335 hours: "I really don't know why you left as you did #312 / #267 @
#20 - Left without language, different from the vulgar, #50
vastness/wasting, H33 withdrawal."
1428 hours (next day): "I've looked into the Categories of [the
Understanding of the last two messages you have given me]. They emit
empathy with my remarks last night (re: Balaam) and are fine and OK as
you say. The last message was Category #173 for male / female as: Father
of pleasure, valley, to shut up or to confine oneself.
I'm wondering though if you have ever been in prison or detained and if
that memory is the cause."
"We are all warriors, each of us splattered with the dirt and grime of
the battlefield. Our Sages tell us that each person must wage war with
the evil impulses that stream through his mind. A philosopher once
remarked that if man would be held accountable for his every thought, we
would all be hung. It�s a sad but true understanding of what our usual
reality is. We try hard, we work on ourselves, but it�s a battle that
never seems to cease.
What then keeps us on the field? Where do we gain the armor to protect
ourselves? There is but one source of all such weaponry, and that is
found in Hashem�s will. One of the greatest difficulties in bringing
disengaged Jews closer to Torah is that they have no frame of Torah
reference to relate to. Yidden who live a life filled with Torah
awareness have a huge amount of positive connections with Hashem that
stems from memories of mitzvos done and cherished. When things seem
bleak, they can call up these experiences and with them temper the
difficulties they face. What can you say to those without any such
memory bank? They too face life�s difficulties, but to them, there is
nothing in their Jewish experience that calls forth any positive hope.
Many would be astounded at the depth of ignorance that vast numbers of
Jews have about our mesora. Basic concepts have never been heard of and
certainly not lived, so although Jewish in name, they have none of our
shared historic faith in Hashem. They face the battlefields of life with
nothing but a title of a people who aren�t all that loved. When the
times become difficult, they flounder in the mire and blame that very
name for their pain.
�Where was G-d?� �Why me?� These are questions that Torah Jews don�t
usually ask, simply because they have lived with Hashem through so many
times that they have stored up an ocean of faith. The Maggid of
Mehzeritz once noted, �Just as a man cannot look at the sun face to face
but is able to utilize its light, so he cannot comprehend Hashem but he
is free to utilize His light; namely, a person�s own thoughts and
spiritual emotions.� Emotions created by a sensitivity to Hashem�s will
can bring one closer to Him and give strength to continue in the daily
war over our inclinations." [By Rabbi Yitzchok Rubin, Tehillim -- The
Rhythm of the Heart, Tehillim Chapter 79, Project Genesis: 2009.8.11]
guardian Snow
> > this is not to say that homosexuality is any more an abomination then
> > many other sins and I do not judge you or anybody else that does this
> > act...
>
> > You will meet your judge one day and how you defend your actions...
>
> I guess one could always say.. 'well that is how you made me'
A better course would be to call on the compassion of YHWH, it's the
Torah.
Deu 4:31 “For Yahweh your Elohim is a compassionate Ěl, He does not
forsake you, nor destroy you, nor forget the covenant of your fathers
which He swore to them.
Be well in your walk of faith, grow in favor and knowledge.
Num 6:24 “Yahweh bless you and guard you;
Num 6:25 Yahweh make His face shine upon you, and show favour to you;
Num 6:26 Yahweh lift up His face upon you, and give you peace.” ’
Shalom,
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(¸.•´ (¸.• (Snow(.¸.•*´¨)
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stories across the many areas of your life. You can't truly be
considered successful in your business life if your home life is in
shambles.
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> > is
> > up to you. I wish you well in your walk of faith but please do not
> > expect that I would ever agree with you.
>
> > You have your ideas and I have mine and I choose to respect you as a
> > human being with ideas that do not agree with mine.
>
> > I hope you understand this... it is your right to determine for
> > yourself what is right for you but in saying so.. I maintain my right
> > to reserve my own thoughts on the matter and in this.. we should
> > respectfully agree that we can disagree and still consider each other
> > loving brothers of the family of Yahweh.
>
> > I will not cast any stones but then, I will not condone either.
>
> --
> rgds,
>
> Pete
> =====http://pw352.blogspot.com
Dr. House
[...]
> You always have a choice
> in what you do.
You could not choose to earn 50 billion dollars next year. No choice
isn't everything. There are limits and you have no clue how someone
can overcome the limit of what they are attracted to.
> Even if you had no choice in your orientation, (which
> I'm saying you do have a choice) as you say.. you have a choice in
> where you put your body parts.
Does not change the fact that they are gay. Abstaining from sex would
not change your status as a hetero.
> You have a choice in being obedient to
> the word.. you choose not to and thats your choice.
>
> Snow- I agree with you 100%. Its about conduct. Even if you "think"
> you were born homosexual
Then you are gay and you will be hated by all the ignorant
fundamentalists who think their hatred pleases God. That is what gay
means. You think you were born homosexual.
> . . . you do not have to act upon it.
> choice-conduct
Yet you are still gay - forever.
dolf
> On Aug 16, 7:25 pm, "Ms. Moneypenny" <moneype...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> [...]
>> You always have a choice
>> in what you do.
>
Just be aware that in this process as liberty of yours, you don't make
yourself an enemy of the State.
> You could not choose to earn 50 billion dollars next year. No choice
> isn't everything. There are limits and you have no clue how someone
> can overcome the limit of what they are attracted to.
>
>> Even if you had no choice in your orientation, (which
>> I'm saying you do have a choice) as you say.. you have a choice in
>> where you put your body parts.
>
> Does not change the fact that they are gay. Abstaining from sex would
> not change your status as a hetero.
>
>> You have a choice in being obedient to
>> the word.. you choose not to and thats your choice.
>>
>> Snow- I agree with you 100%. Its about conduct. Even if you "think"
>> you were born homosexual
>
> Then you are gay and you will be hated by all the ignorant
> fundamentalists who think their hatred pleases God. That is what gay
> means. You think you were born homosexual.
>
>> . . . you do not have to act upon it.
>> choice-conduct
>
> Yet you are still gay - forever.
(ru) dolf: "I had the following phone messages with a male Jewish person
blofelds_cat
else, as Ninure, who used to post here regularly does, claim that God
created homosexuals and so there is nothing wrong with being a
(practising) homosexual in contradiction to what the bible teaches.
"Despite what many "well meaning" people say, I believe that who I am is
no accident. My sexuality, like my gender and my race, is a deliberate
creative reflection of God, not an accident, not a sin, not a
sickness.The truth is, Sexuality, whether Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual, or
heterosexual is a gift from God, every bit as much as God's love and
God's grace are gifts! There is only one Creator who created all of
humanity, and that Creator calls his creation good! God does not just
"tolerate" us. God does not expect us or even want us to live in fear of
expressing our love. This is not wishful thinking on my part. "
from.. http://www.geocities.com/ninure/
>
>
> Moneypenny
--
rgds,
Pete
=====
Terry Cross
> On Aug 16, 7:25 pm, "Ms. Moneypenny" <moneype...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> > You always have a choice
> > in what you do.
>
> You could not choose to earn 50 billion dollars next year.
You are wrong. You could so choose, but you might not succeed. And
that is another subject.
> No choice
> isn't everything. There are limits and you have no clue how someone
> can overcome the limit of what they are attracted to.
And that is yet another subject.
> > Even if you had no choice in your orientation, (which
> > I'm saying you do have a choice) as you say.. you have a choice in
> > where you put your body parts.
>
> Does not change the fact that they are gay.
And how do YOU come by this dogma? Did you find this in a microscope?
> Abstaining from sex would
> not change your status as a hetero.
That is as silly as asserting that flying to the moon would not change
your STATUS as a US citizen. It's meaningless.
> > You have a choice in being obedient to
> > the word.. you choose not to and thats your choice.
>
> > Snow- I agree with you 100%. Its about conduct. Even if you "think"
> > you were born homosexual
>
> Then you are gay and you will be hated by all the ignorant
> fundamentalists who think their hatred pleases God. That is what gay
> means.
"Gay" means happy, except to those who pride themselves on Newspeak.
TCross
guardian Snow
You're still gay forever...:p I suppose Lady/dude Gaga didn't have a
choice either:)
Smile.. your still my favorite homo:)
Hate Filled Homophobic Randy - Vera@acc0000000049 Anti Hate Filled Homophobic Randy - Vera
>>>>> Michael Kirby ....
>>>>> ******He is simply a judge who has HIV himself
>>> YOU HAVE JUST VILIFIED AN AUSTRALIAN HIGH COURT JUDGE!!!!
>>>
>>> Michael Kirby does NOT have HIV and to say otherwise is DEFAMATION and
>>> ILLEGAL HOMOSEXUAL VILIFICATION.
>>>
>>> That is the type of FUNDAMENTALIST HATRED that is so typical of IGNORANT
>>> UNEDUCATED FUNDAMENTALISTS like YOU.
.....
> He is not a justice he is a law professor in Tasmania and he is openly
> gay. Now word of him being HIV pos.
> So I guess both our facts were wrong.
ABSOLUTE NONSENSE!!!!!!
YOU HAVE YOUR FACTS WRONG!!!!
YOUR ABJECT IGNORANCE IS AGAIN DEMONSTRATED.
See http://www.michaelkirby.com.au/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Michael Kirby was, until 2 February 2009, one of the seven Justices of
Australia's highest constitutional and appellate court, the High Court of
Australia. He served there from his appointment on 6 February 1996. At the
end of that service he was Australia's longest serving judicial officer
having been:
a.. A deputy president of the Australian Conciliation and Arbitration
Commission 1975-1983;
b.. Inaugural chairman of the Australian Law Reform Commission 1975-1984;
c.. A judge of the Federal Court of Australia 1983-1984;
d.. President of the New South Wales Court of Appeal 1984-1996;
e.. President of the Court of Appeal of Solomon Islands 1995-1996;
f.. A justice of the High Court of Australia 1996-2009.
In addition to these posts, Michael Kirby has served in many international
and United Nations positions including two expert groups of the OECD, Paris,
many bodies of the Commonwealth Secretariat, London and positions in the
ILO, UNDP, UNESCO, UNODC, WHO Global Commission on AIDS, and UNAIDS. He was
President of the International Commission of Jurists 1995-1998 and served as
Special Representative of the Secretary General of the United Nations for
Human Rights in Cambodia 1993-1996. He has been a member of the governing
body of three Australian universities, ultimately being elected as
Chancellor of Macquarie University in Sydney 1984-1993. He holds honorary
degrees of Doctor of Letters, Doctor of Laws and Doctor of the University
from twelve Australian and foreign universities and various other
appointments.
http://www.michaelkirby.com.au/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=67&Itemid=2
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Judicial Farewell - High Court 2009
....
I pay tribute to the faithful staff of the High Court here and in the
other cities: the successive chief executives, registrars, librarians,
court officers, some of whom are with me today. To my own personal
assistant of 20 years, the wonderful Janet Saleh: prudent, feisty and wise.
To my many associates from this Court and the Court of Appeal, so many of
whom have travelled here. I am proud of every one of them.
To Justice Virginia Bell, my esteemed successor ....
In the interval between my swearing in and now many good things have
been achieved in Australia, including sometimes in this place, to improve
the position in law of those whom I mentioned at my welcome 7: Aboriginals,
women, HOMOSEXUALS, Asian Australians, non English speakers. Challenges
remain and there are new injustices to overcome after today. The noble
struggle for justice is never completed. ....
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
As rare as a fundamentalist who loves his / her neighbour.
--
The most pronounced characteristics [of fundamentalists] are the following:
(a) a very stong emphasis on the inerrancy of the Bible, the absence from it
of any sort of error;
(b) a strong hostility to modern theology and to the methods, results and
implications of modern critical study of the Bible;
Barry OGrady
Apparently its villification to suggest someone has AIDS.
Is that because homosexuals are embarrised?
>
>Moneypenny
Barry OGrady
Six" <Anti-Homophobic Randy@ACC0000000045> wrote:
>"Ms. Moneypenny" AKA ABBY <money...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>>>> Michael Kirby ....
>>>>> ******He is simply a judge who has HIV himself
>>> YOU HAVE JUST VILIFIED AN AUSTRALIAN HIGH COURT JUDGE!!!!
>>>
>>> Michael Kirby does NOT have HIV and to say otherwise is DEFAMATION and
>>> ILLEGAL HOMOSEXUAL VILIFICATION.
>...
>> If the judge does not have HIV then I regretfully have mistaken and
>> apologize
>
>
>IF I had passed that onto Michael Kirby and IF you lived in Australia you
>would be taken to court over such hate-filled vilification.
Yes. It is hateful to suggest someone is homosexual, even if they are.
>Australian laws do not tolerate your homophobic bigotry and punishes it
>severly.
Fortunatly our laws do not prevent us talking about homosexuals.
Dr. House
> On Aug 16, 9:20 pm, "Dr. House" <hsot...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Aug 16, 7:25 pm, "Ms. Moneypenny" <moneype...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > [...]
>
> > > You always have a choice
> > > in what you do.
>
> > You could not choose to earn 50 billion dollars next year.
>
> You are wrong. You could so choose, but you might not succeed. And
> that is another subject.
>
> > No choice
> > isn't everything. There are limits and you have no clue how someone
> > can overcome the limit of what they are attracted to.
>
> And that is yet another subject.
You are splitting hairs there. Success being not possible was spelled
out in my post. A gay person could choose abstinence but that does
not change who they are attracted to.
> > > Even if you had no choice in your orientation, (which
> > > I'm saying you do have a choice) as you say.. you have a choice in
> > > where you put your body parts.
>
> > Does not change the fact that they are gay.
>
> And how do YOU come by this dogma? Did you find this in a microscope?
A heterosexual man is not a man who has recently _had_ sex with a
woman. It's a man who wants to have sex with women. This is what we
mean by sexual orientation. Or do you seek to deny our ability to
communicate? When someone tells you they are lesbian that is
information about what they desire rather than their sexual activity.
Why do you call this dogma?
> > Abstaining from sex would
> > not change your status as a hetero.
>
> That is as silly as asserting that flying to the moon would not change
> your STATUS as a US citizen. It's meaningless.
How do you figure that? It's a statement regarding status for a
situation a dozen or so men have been in. Lots of hetero people have
not had sex today. They don't stop being hetero just because they
didn't get any. Thus an alternative of hetero - gay - also does not
change due to abstinence.
> > > You have a choice in being obedient to
> > > the word.. you choose not to and thats your choice.
>
> > > Snow- I agree with you 100%. Its about conduct. Even if you "think"
> > > you were born homosexual
>
> > Then you are gay and you will be hated by all the ignorant
> > fundamentalists who think their hatred pleases God. That is what gay
> > means.
>
> "Gay" means happy, except to those who pride themselves on Newspeak.
Ironically you are the one denying meaning and the ability to
communicate. Sorry but new meanings do come into existance. Twitter
use to mean "chirping" like a bird.
A Fred Phelps wannabe...
> Is there any relationship between private email SPAM and public
> NEWSGROUP RELIGIOUS, RACIAL AND SEXUAL HATE SPEECH?
>
> Because if there is, I accuse you of Internet and telephony based
> religious persecution against the natural and common law autonomic right
> of homosexuals under the State and Commonwealth.
You are as nutty as a peach orchard boar in heat.
dolf
chronological model to human reasoning.
Was that an opinion from you baboon?
- dolf
- http://www.grapple.id.au/Chronicles/jahaag.html
dolf
chronological model to human reasoning.
Was that an opinion from you baboon?
My Andersen's Ice Cream: macadamia vanilla, Belgian chocolate is better
this morning after leaving it in the freezer, than when I purchased it
last night and sat momentarily in the village square!
A Fred Phelps wannabe... <nettec...@yahoo.com> wrote:
dolf
chronological model to human reasoning.
Was that an opinion from you baboon?
My Andersen's Ice Cream: macadamia vanilla, Belgian chocolate is better
this morning after leaving it in the freezer, than when I purchased it
last night and sat momentarily in the village square!
And had the same discussion with a homosexual male on Gaydar Chat last
night expressing religious views approximately equivalent with Mormonism.
I advised him that I would be taking legal action against him on summons.
A Fred Phelps wannabe... <nettec...@yahoo.com> wrote:
dolf
chronological model to human reasoning.
Was that an opinion from you baboon?
My Andersen's Ice Cream: macadamia vanilla, Belgian chocolate is better
this morning after leaving it in the freezer, than when I purchased it
last night and sat momentarily in the village square!
And had the same discussion with a homosexual male hotguy97361 on Gaydar
Chat last night expressing religious views approximately equivalent with
Mormonism.
I advised him that I would be taking legal action against him on summons.
A Fred Phelps wannabe... ORGANIZATION: "A noiseless patient Spider"
Barry OGrady
Surely the Dolt is a troll. Nobody could be as nutty as he and still
live.
dolf
least install a faux kitchen, which is capable under such circumstance
to settle the mind to matters of normalcy and the mundane such as
whipping up a snack.
US PRESIDENT Barack Obama says he really doesn't need a new presidential
helicopter with an Armageddon-proof kitchen.
"It would let me cook a meal while under nuclear attack," he mused.
"Now, let me tell you something - if the United States of America is
under nuclear attack, the last thing on my mind will be whipping up a
snack."
Mr Obama's comments came as he pledged to put up "a fight" against
"exotic projects that are years behind schedule and billions over
budget" in a speech to the Veterans of Foreign Wars service organisation.
- http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25945451-12377,00.html
Homo {Homois -- all one to us} Sapien {Wisdom thinking} as mathematical
chronological model to human reasoning.
Was that an opinion from you baboon?
My Andersen's Ice Cream: macadamia vanilla, Belgian chocolate is better
this morning after leaving it in the freezer, than when I purchased it
last night and sat momentarily in the village square!
And had the same discussion with a homosexual male hotguy97361 on Gaydar
Chat last night expressing religious views approximately equivalent with
Mormonism.
I advised him that I would be taking legal action against him on summons.
A Fred Phelps wannabe... ORGANIZATION: "A noiseless patient Spider"
<nettec...@yahoo.com> ab...@eternal-september.org wrote:
dolf
> No one can speak for what happens in hell. From what I hear it is
> full of homosexuals and that is where they all meet again and party
> 24/7/365!
>
> But there is no greater hell on this planet than a homosexuals
> christian in denial. They evidently suffer self-hatred, cut
> themsleves with raizors, try to commit suicide, and a do a host of
> other self-destrictive actions. Ultimately, some homosexual
> christians get to the point of almost killing themselves and then try
> homosexuality and find that the there is no pain. The world doesn't
> fall in. They then realize they can be whoever they want and whatever
> they want and nobody cares. Yes, their brothers and sisters amy
> disown them along with their Christian parents but outside of that
> the world is awesome.
-- Marine One kitchen unnecessary, says Obama
Since the kitchen is often the center of life in the house, you'd at
least install a faux kitchen, which is capable under such circumstance
to settle the mind to matters of normalcy and the mundane such as
whipping up a snack.
US PRESIDENT Barack Obama says he really doesn't need a new presidential
helicopter with an Armageddon-proof kitchen.
"It would let me cook a meal while under nuclear attack," he mused.
"Now, let me tell you something - if the United States of America is
under nuclear attack, the last thing on my mind will be whipping up a
snack."
Mr Obama's comments came as he pledged to put up "a fight" against
"exotic projects that are years behind schedule and billions over
budget" in a speech to the Veterans of Foreign Wars service organisation.
- http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25945451-12377,00.html
Homo {Homois -- all one to us} Sapien {Wisdom thinking} as mathematical
chronological model to human reasoning.
Was that an opinion from you baboo?
My Andersen's Ice Cream: macadamia vanilla, Belgian chocolate is better
this morning after leaving it in the freezer, than when I purchased it
last night and sat momentarily in the village square!
And had the same discussion with a homosexual male hotguy97361 on Gaydar
Chat last night expressing religious views approximately equivalent with
Mormonism.
I advised him that I would be taking legal action against him on summons.
A Fred Phelps wannabe... ORGANIZATION: "A noiseless patient Spider"
<nettec...@yahoo.com> ab...@eternal-september.org wrote:
> dolf wrote:
>> Is there any relationship between private email SPAM and public
>> NEWSGROUP RELIGIOUS, RACIAL AND SEXUAL HATE SPEECH?
>>
>> Because if there is, I accuse you of Internet and telephony based
>> religious persecution against the natural and common law autonomic
>> right of homosexuals under the State and Commonwealth.
>
> You are as nutty as a peach orchard boar in heat.
>
>
> Randy � wrote:
>> On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 10:13:25 +0930, In newsgroup
>> "alt.christnet.christianlife", Article
>> <4A82102D...@internode.on.net>, Subject: Re: God hates fags
>> Mordecai <"mldavis(please dont spam)"@internode.on.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "Randy �" wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 13:59:26 -0700 (PDT), In newsgroup
>>>> "alt.christnet.christianlife", Article
>>>> <b522b516-1984-4ab8...@y10g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
>>>> Subject: Re: God hates fags <<k�ll�>>
>>>> <rosiebelleatr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Correct. He denies that the original languages and the
>>>>> original intent of those passages mean what they say.
>>>> You are such a liar. You're the one who looked right at
>>>> multiple passages of Scripture stating homosexuality is an
>>>> abomination, perversion, and detestable, and who then tried to
>>>> feign that if one simply consulted the language sources, they
>>>> would see the words are not referring to homosexuality, as if
>>>> we were idiots, and wouldn't know the difference.
>>>>
>>>> Then, every single commentary and language source I could find,
>>>> as well as various Bible translations, all agree it's talking
>>>> about homosexuality. You then tried to claim we "cherry
>>>> picked" those commentaries and language sources, and have been
>>>> promoting that lie ever since, when it is obviously _you_ who
>>>> would have to search high and low to cherry pick a commentary
>>>> that doesn't agree with our interpretation.
>>>>
>>>> You thus consistently prove yourself to be a brazen liar and
>>>> false Accuser of the Brethren:
>>>> On 7 Jan 2007 18:38:14 -0800, In newsgroup
>>>> "alt.christnet.christianlife", Article
>>>> <1168223894.3...@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com>,
>>>> Subject: Re: RANDY "PULPITFIRE" YOUNG...WHY DID YOU SAY THAT???
>>>> "*IKnowThatIAmAWhosoeverToo*" <onthe...@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>> **************************************************************
>>>> I am a lesbian
>>>> **************************************************************
>>>>
>>>> On 21 Jul 2006 11:18:48 -0700, in article
>>>> <1153505928....@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com>,
>>>> "Whosoever" <onthe...@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>> **************************************************************
>>>> No, the Bible does not forbid same-sex relations in a
>>>> committed, loving, monogamous relationship. It speaks of
>>>> homosexual-style rape in Genesis (but that isn't why Sodom was
>>>> destroyed), it speaks of anal-penetration in Leviticus (which
>>>> is something plenty of heterosexuals partake in), and it speaks
>>>> of same-sex temple prostitution in the New Testament. None of
>>>> these have anything to do with committed, loving, monogamous
>>>> homosexuality.
>>>> **************************************************************
>>>>
>>>> On 29 Jul 2006 23:25:00 -0700, in article
>>>> <1154240700.1...@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
>>>> "3Wh�s�ever3" <onthe...@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>> **************************************************************
>>>> I never said a word about my homosexuality in these groups
>>>> until you thought you had the right to "expose" me.
>>>> **************************************************************
>>>>
>>>> -- Have you heard Christ died for our sins, and God raised Him
>>>> from the dead? Did you know God saves you from hell and gives
>>>> you eternal life through faith in this finished work alone, not
>>>> your merits (Jn. 3:16; 1 Cor. 15:1-3; Eph. 2:8-10; 2 Thess.
>>>> 1:8-9)? This is so man cannot boast, and God alone gets the
>>>> glory (Eph. 2:8-9).
>>>> ______________________________________________
>>>> www.faithguard.org www.twitter.com/faithguard
>>>> www.facebook.com/faithguard
>>>> ______________________________________________
>>> Tell me - oh heretical randy
>> Liar. You're the heretic whose lies won't work and who therefore
>> has to rail against our New Testaments.
>>
>>> ... all about ... adultery. Come randy - adultery is included in
>>> the sins you mentioned. And JC speaks of divorce .. And Paul
>>> speaks further about it ...
>>>
>>> Do you go araound accusing women who divorce and remarry - thus
>>> commiting adultery - and obviously not repenting as they
>>> continue in adultery - as not geting into heaven? And stalking
>>> them lest others think they might be deceived?
>>>
>>> Do you forbid christians to talk to these women - and accuse them
>>> because of this adultery - like you do those who speak to kelly?
>>>
>>> Why do you look at one sin ... and refuse to judge another - on
>>> the very NT verse you use to go after kelly? Come Randy -
>>> explain.
>> Who is trying to justify adultery, or claiming God is ok with it.
>> Not me. Kelly looks right at the Bible condemning homosexuality,
>> then lies and says it isn't talking about homosexuality, trying to
>> justify it.
>>
>>> You have publicly made a stand - and you have publicly made a
>>> campaign fr righteousness ... GREAT. Now apply it to adulterers.
>>> For every homosexual - there are a thousand adulterers. More, the
>>> adulterers are open - outspoken - and have power and authority
>>> - not ostrasized and discriminated against.
>> Show me the person who is trying to justify adultery, idiot.
>>
>>> Surely that is a worthy task - not yelling at the few but
>>> resolving the BIG problem?
>>>
>>> Come, heretical Randy, explain.
>> Go relish yourself somewhere else, moron. Your questions are
>> idiotic, since we're not trying to justify adultery.
>>
>> -- Have you heard Christ died for our sins, and God raised Him from
>> the dead? Did you know God saves you from hell and gives you
>> eternal life through faith in this finished work alone, not your
>> merits (Jn. 3:16; 1 Cor. 15:1-3; Eph. 2:8-10; 2 Thess. 1:8-9)?
>> This is so man cannot boast, and God alone gets the glory (Eph.
>> 2:8-9).
dolf
Your name isn't Monica is it?
anonymous <anon...@anonymous.com> wrote:
> No one can speak for what happens in hell. From what I hear it is
> full of homosexuals and that is where they all meet again and party
> 24/7/365!
>
> But there is no greater hell on this planet than a homosexuals
> christian in denial. They evidently suffer self-hatred, cut
> themsleves with raizors, try to commit suicide, and a do a host of
> other self-destrictive actions. Ultimately, some homosexual
> christians get to the point of almost killing themselves and then try
> homosexuality and find that the there is no pain. The world doesn't
> fall in. They then realize they can be whoever they want and whatever
> they want and nobody cares. Yes, their brothers and sisters amy
> disown them along with their Christian parents but outside of that
> the world is awesome.
Since the kitchen is often the center of life in the house, you'd at
least install a faux kitchen, which is capable under such circumstance
to settle the mind to matters of normalcy and the mundane such as
whipping up a snack.
US PRESIDENT Barack Obama says he really doesn't need a new presidential
helicopter with an Armageddon-proof kitchen.
"It would let me cook a meal while under nuclear attack," he mused.
"Now, let me tell you something - if the United States of America is
under nuclear attack, the last thing on my mind will be whipping up a
snack."
Mr Obama's comments came as he pledged to put up "a fight" against
"exotic projects that are years behind schedule and billions over
budget" in a speech to the Veterans of Foreign Wars service organisation.
- http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25945451-12377,00.html
Homo {Homois -- all one to us} Sapien {Wisdom thinking} as mathematical
chronological model to human reasoning.
Was that an opinion from you baboon?
My Andersen's Ice Cream: macadamia vanilla, Belgian chocolate is better
this morning after leaving it in the freezer, than when I purchased it
last night and sat momentarily in the village square!
And had the same discussion with a homosexual male hotguy97361 on Gaydar
Chat last night expressing religious views approximately equivalent with
Mormonism.
I advised him that I would be taking legal action against him on summons.
A Fred Phelps wannabe... ORGANIZATION: "A noiseless patient Spider"
<nettec...@yahoo.com> ab...@eternal-september.org wrote:
dolf
we've been subject to the radio ad from them which goes something like:
"I can't get my radio to fit in my pants now. But I'm gonna try. Got
Nova in my pants now."
I saw the humor of it as a bit of a stretch with the truth over the
displaying their phone number on the a billboard.
I've listened to Nova radio on my red (AIDS PROJECT) Apple I-Pod Nano
with its RADIO add on component for nearly as long as I've had this
I-Pod and in all that time the station designation on station display
failed to show this as Nova 969 but VEGA 950 something.
This I-Pod is just the thing to stay connected to important emergency
radio broadcasts. I think you can even get solar panel chargers for them.
More recently I've included my mobile phone number in my GAYDAR and
GRAPPLE.ID.AU www-page entry because there is no disparity between my
life as a homosexual and my religious belief.
Should I continue to get jock parody from Australian radio baboons on my
private life, I'll ensure that you are publicly aware of my opposition
to your feral Australian conduct.
That given recent European questions of Microsoft's propriety towards
the STATE, and of course the representation of the natural and common
- http://www.grapple.id.au/Chronicles/images/tetrayear.jpg
- http://www.grapple.id.au/Chronicles/images/toth9.gif
http://www.grapple.id.au/strongsIDEAS.js
http://www.grapple.id.au/biblos.html
(ru) dolf: "I accuse you of Internet and telephony based religious
persecution against the natural and common law autonomic right of
homosexuals under the State and Commonwealth."
Nous: #50
dolf
D�Argaville and the Panel Chair Mr. Michael Arnold, and inconvenienced
by the State of Victoria for 12 years, that I would expect, given his
Jewish and Oriental natural and common law interests, that he ought to
show a greater cultural sensitivity towards the holocaust of Jews and of
homosexuals and his continued in action in relation to complaints as
definition of Marriage as slander and the denial of justice by the
Financial Industry Complaints Service Limited (now Financial Ombudsman
Service �FOS�) in relation to religious, racial and sexual vilification
For months in the lead up to the Australian launch of digital radio,
we've been subject to the radio ad from them which goes something like:
"I can't get my radio to fit in my pants now. But I'm gonna try. Got
Nova in my pants now."
I saw the humor of it as a bit of a stretch with the truth over the
displaying their phone number on the a billboard.
I've listened to Nova radio on my red (AIDS PROJECT) Apple I-Pod Nano
with its RADIO add on component for nearly as long as I've had this
I-Pod and in all that time the station designation on station display
failed to show this as Nova 969 but VEGA 950 something.
This I-Pod is just the thing to stay connected to important emergency
radio broadcasts. I think you can even get solar panel chargers for them.
More recently I've included my mobile phone number in my GAYDAR and
GRAPPLE.ID.AU www-page entry because there is no disparity between my
life as a homosexual and my religious belief.
Should I continue to get jock parody from Australian radio baboons on my
private life, I'll ensure that you are publicly aware of my opposition
to your feral Australian conduct.
(ru) dolf: "I had the following phone messages with a male Jewish person
That given recent European questions of Microsoft's propriety towards
the STATE, and of course the representation of the natural and common
- http://www.grapple.id.au/Chronicles/images/tetrayear.jpg
- http://www.grapple.id.au/Chronicles/images/toth9.gif
http://www.grapple.id.au/strongsIDEAS.js
http://www.grapple.id.au/biblos.html
(ru) dolf: "I accuse you of Internet and telephony based religious
persecution against the natural and common law autonomic right of
homosexuals under the State and Commonwealth."
Nous: #50
dolf
I believe that I have been unnecessarily bullied by Mr. Michael
D�Argaville and the Panel Chair Mr. Michael Arnold, and inconvenienced
by the State of Victoria for 12 years, that I would expect, given his
Jewish and Oriental natural and common law interests, that he ought to
show a greater cultural sensitivity towards the holocaust of Jews and of
homosexuals and his continued in action in relation to complaints as
deferral to the Federal Government�s August 2004 amendments to the
definition of Marriage as slander and the denial of justice by the
Financial Industry Complaints Service Limited (now Financial Ombudsman
Service �FOS�) in relation to religious, racial and sexual vilification
in realation to the Sovereign Autonomic Right under the Commonwealth.
For months in the lead up to the Australian launch of digital radio,
we've been subject to the radio ad from them which goes something like:
"I can't get my radio to fit in my pants now. But I'm gonna try. Got
Nova in my pants now."
I saw the humor of it as a bit of a stretch with the truth over the
displaying their phone number on the a billboard.
I've listened to Nova radio on my red (AIDS PROJECT) Apple I-Pod Nano
with its RADIO add on component for nearly as long as I've had this
I-Pod and in all that time the station designation on station display
failed to show this as Nova 969 but VEGA 950 something.
This I-Pod is just the thing to stay connected to important emergency
radio broadcasts. I think you can even get solar panel chargers for them.
More recently I've included my mobile phone number in my GAYDAR and
GRAPPLE.ID.AU www-page entry because there is no disparity between my
life as a homosexual and my religious belief.
Should I continue to get jock parody from Australian radio baboons on my
private life, I'll ensure that you are publicly aware of my opposition
to your feral Australian conduct.
(ru) dolf: "I had the following phone messages with a male Jewish person
That given recent European questions of Microsoft's propriety towards
the STATE, and of course the representation of the natural and common
- http://www.grapple.id.au/Chronicles/images/tetrayear.jpg
- http://www.grapple.id.au/Chronicles/images/toth9.gif
http://www.grapple.id.au/strongsIDEAS.js
http://www.grapple.id.au/biblos.html
(ru) dolf: "I accuse you of Internet and telephony based religious
persecution against the natural and common law autonomic right of
homosexuals under the State and Commonwealth."
Nous: #50
dolf
There is a State wreath--laying today with respects to Warfare and I
wish to make it plainly clear that radio Nova and other feral Australia
Jocks that you can take no solace nor participation in our national
pride from that event nor will your soul rest for eternity as they whom
we remember.
I believe that I have been unnecessarily bullied by Mr. Michael
D�Argaville and the Panel Chair Mr. Michael Arnold, and inconvenienced
by the State of Victoria for 12 years, that I would expect, given his
Jewish and Oriental natural and common law interests, that he ought to
show a greater cultural sensitivity towards the holocaust of Jews and of
homosexuals and his continued in action in relation to complaints as
deferral to the Federal Government�s August 2004 amendments to the
definition of Marriage as slander and the denial of justice by the
Financial Industry Complaints Service Limited (now Financial Ombudsman
Service �FOS�) in relation to religious, racial and sexual vilification
in realation to the Sovereign Autonomic Right under the Commonwealth.
For months in the lead up to the Australian launch of digital radio,
we've been subject to the radio ad from them which goes something like:
"I can't get my radio to fit in my pants now. But I'm gonna try. Got
Nova in my pants now."
I saw the humor of it as a bit of a stretch with the truth over the
displaying their phone number on the a billboard.
I've listened to Nova radio on my red (AIDS PROJECT) Apple I-Pod Nano
with its RADIO add on component for nearly as long as I've had this
I-Pod and in all that time the station designation on station display
failed to show this as Nova 969 but VEGA 950 something.
This I-Pod is just the thing to stay connected to important emergency
radio broadcasts. I think you can even get solar panel chargers for them.
More recently I've included my mobile phone number in my GAYDAR and
GRAPPLE.ID.AU www-page entry because there is no disparity between my
life as a homosexual and my religious belief.
Should I continue to get jock parody from Australian radio baboons on my
private life, I'll ensure that you are publicly aware of my opposition
to your feral Australian conduct.
(ru) dolf: "I had the following phone messages with a male Jewish person
That given recent European questions of Microsoft's propriety towards
the STATE, and of course the representation of the natural and common
- http://www.grapple.id.au/Chronicles/images/tetrayear.jpg
- http://www.grapple.id.au/Chronicles/images/toth9.gif
http://www.grapple.id.au/strongsIDEAS.js
http://www.grapple.id.au/biblos.html
(ru) dolf: "I accuse you of Internet and telephony based religious
persecution against the natural and common law autonomic right of
homosexuals under the State and Commonwealth."
Nous: #50
dolf
recently caught on camera, should not be taken as a statement of regard,
respect and admiration for the autonomic right of homosexuals as
conveyed by my religious belief as Torah and DAOist compliant Christian
- http://www.grapple.id.au/Chronicles/jahaag.html
There is no common ground between Cricketer Brett Lee's claims of piety
and mine--and if he wish to convey that there is by his attachment to a
sports paradigm, he knows where my mobile number is accessible.
The Sanitarium Health food company which owns Wheat-bix as this sports
promoter is an organ of the Seventh-day Adventist Church. Rather than
responding to my human rights claim against the church, I seem to
continually being assaulted by advertising from organizations associated
with the Seventh-day Adventist Church.
dolf
This gesticulation by the 'marriage on the rocks' wheat-bix poseur boy
recently caught on camera, should not be taken as a statement of regard,
respect and admiration for the autonomic right of homosexuals as
conveyed by my religious belief as Torah and DAOist compliant Christian
belief is sustained by a technological core as semiotic natural and
common law cosmological model at this www-page:
- http://www.grapple.id.au/Chronicles/jahaag.html
There is no common ground between Cricketer Brett Lee's claims of piety
and mine--and if he wish to convey that there is by his attachment to a
sports paradigm, he knows where my mobile number is accessible.
The Sanitarium Health food company which owns Wheat-bix as this sports
promoter is an organ of the Seventh-day Adventist Church. Rather than
responding to my human rights claim against the church, I seem to
continually being assaulted by advertising from organizations associated
with the Seventh-day Adventist Church.
-- Soon Bentgay's favourite whores will have corporate logos on them
Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF > flangesbum.is@dope wrote:
> Bentgay (original Zionist Harold Wood) wrote:
>> As Government gets out
>
> Do you get out, Bentgay?
>
-- Bentgay complains about his vibrator
Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF > flangesbum.is@dope wrote:
> Pull it out if you're not satisfied, Bentgay.
>
- How Hitler created Israel and Zionism
Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF > flangesbum.is@dope wrote:
> Bentgay (original Zionist Harold Wood) wrote:
>> *
>> http://www.henrymakow.com/hitler_was_a_godsend_for_israe.html
>>
>> The vast majority of German Jews:
>> "vehemently rejected Zionism as an enemy from within."
>> They were Germans. Eighty thousand had fought in the
>> trenches and 12,000 had died. "Nowhere was the
>> opposition of Jews [to Zionism] so widespread,
>> principled, and fierce as in Germany,"
>> a Zionist historian wrote.
>>
>> Thanks to Hitler, 60,000 German Jews emigrated to
>> Israel between 1933 and 1941. Thanks to a
>> "Transfer Agreement" between Nazis and Zionists,
>> Jewish property valued at $100 million was
>> transferred to Israel in the form of German
>> industrial exports used to build Israel's
>> infrastructure.
>
> That must make an arselifter like you hopping mad, Bentgay!
>
-- Bentgay will soon stop worrying, and rejoice as all their unique
wildlife becomes extinct to be replaced by third world filth
Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF > flangesbum.is@dope wrote:
> Bentgay (original Zionist Harold Wood) wrote:
> > Good news, dullards! Doubleplus good!
>
> Have you pissed off yet, Bentgay?
>
::: Jesus is LORD :::
lfli85dgdqghk7qpm...@4ax.com
> On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 12:41:14 +1000, "Anti Hate Filled Homophobic Vera
> Six" <Anti-Homophobic Randy@ACC0000000045> wrote:
>
>> "Ms. Moneypenny" AKA ABBY <money...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>>> Michael Kirby ....
>>>>>> ******He is simply a judge who has HIV himself
>>>> YOU HAVE JUST VILIFIED AN AUSTRALIAN HIGH COURT JUDGE!!!!
>>>>
>>>> Michael Kirby does NOT have HIV and to say otherwise is DEFAMATION
>>>> and ILLEGAL HOMOSEXUAL VILIFICATION.
>> ...
>>> If the judge does not have HIV then I regretfully have mistaken and
>>> apologize
>>
>>
>> IF I had passed that onto Michael Kirby and IF you lived in
>> Australia you would be taken to court over such hate-filled
>> vilification.
>
> Yes. It is hateful to suggest someone is homosexual, even if they are.
<chuckle>
>> Australian laws do not tolerate your homophobic bigotry and punishes
>> it severly.
>
> Fortunatly our laws do not prevent us talking about homosexuals.
I am just glad that it has not become a law that says we all have to be
homosexual yet.
--
___________________________________________________
http://www.acc-growing-deeper.de
http://the-beauty-of-the-psalms.blogspot.com
http://jesus-christ-is-my-lord-and-my-god.blogspot.com
http://bible-prophecy-and-revelation.blogspot.com/
Barry OGrady
That's coming! :)
> --
==============
Barry
dolf
Linda Lee
> On Aug 17, 3:23 am, "Zadok" <nob...@accesswave.ca> wrote:
>
>
>
> > "guardian Snow" <> wrote in message ...
> > >I don't care what Paul says but the Torah doesn't mince words:
> > >Lev 18:22 ‘And do not lie with a male as with a woman, it is an
> > >abomination.
> > >Lev 18:23 ‘And do not have intercourse with any beast, to defile
> > >yourself with it. And a woman does not stand before a beast to mate
> > >with it, it is a perversion.
> > >Lev 18:24 ‘Do not defile yourselves with all these, for by all these
>
> > .>the nations are defiled, which I am driving out before you.
>
> > >One can debate with the words of Paul but the Torah is clear and to
> > >the point.
>
> > The Torah is also clear and to the point that adulterers should be stoned.
> > Sabbatb breakers should also be stoned.
>
> > A perty where everyone gets stoned can take on a whole new meaning.
>
> > Smile.
>
> I agree.. I did say, I'm not casting the first stone... just that the
> Torah is clear on the issue and Paul's words can be used to back
> peddle the issue.
>
> I respect what your saying...
For God's sake, when are you going to master English contractions?
The word is you're, NOT your. You're is short for 'you are'; your
signifies ownership.
Linda Lee
> "Zadok" <nob...@accesswave.ca> wrote:
> > The Torah is also clear and to the point that adulterers should be stoned.
> > Sabbatb breakers should also be stoned.
>
> > A perty where everyone gets stoned can take on a whole new meaning.
>
...because all have sinned. ;-)
Linda Lee
> On Aug 17, 8:38 am, "I" <Anti-Homophobic Randy@ACC0000000036> wrote:
>
> > Sexual orientation involves NO CHOICE whatsoever!
>
> > > that which is accorded normal status.
>
> > Homosexuality IS normal in the animal world. Haven't you read much in
> > biology?
>
> You always have a choice in what you do, sex is an action and it
> requires the person to act upon his thoughts. Nobody holds a gun to
> the head of a man to make him sleep with another... If he did.. thats
> just as wrong also and don't go off on some other stupid
> mistranslation.. stick to the issue here... Did you ever stop and
> consider that your own backwards thinking contributes to the problems
> you have in your life Mark?
>
> Psa 9:15 The gentiles have sunk down in the pit which they made; In
> the net which they hid, their own foot is caught.
> Psa 9:16 Yahweh has made Himself known, He has done right-ruling; The
> wrong is snared in the work of his own hands. Meditation. Selah.
>
> I'm not trying to rub salt in your wounds but maybe you should
> reconsider what you call wisdom and repent of all this wickedness you
> spout. I mean, look at you.. comparing rational human behaviour to
> monkeys now... what's next... giving examples of men that are
> incarcerated together?
>
> I would assume that people are smarter than monkeys but maybe that
> isn't the case... are you saying that homosexuals are a bunch of dumb
> monkeys now???
I think he is saying homosexuality can have biological origins,
hormonal 'imbalances' etc. Bi-sexuality is more of a choice; they're
just greedy.
Linda Lee
> On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 08:43:54 +1000,
> In newsgroup "alt.christnet.christianlife",
> Article <4a888ba...@dnews.tpgi.com.au>,
> Subject: Re: TRU LIBURAL SCHOLUR, MARKIE, LEADS MEN TO HELL
> "I" <Anti-Homophobic Randy@ACC0000000036> wrote:
>
>
>
> >"Jani" wrote:
>
> >> Sexual behaviour is action, certainly. Sexual orientation is not.
>
> >Dumbing it down even further ...
>
> >Sexual behaviour is action - CHOICE
>
> >Sexual orientation is not - NO CHOICE
>
> >Homosexuality is NOT a behaviour - CHOICE
>
> >Homosexuality is sexual orientation - NO CHOICE
>
> Liars:
>
> Romans 1:18-32 NASB
> (18) For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all
> ungodliness and unrighteousness of men who suppress the truth
> in unrighteousness,
> (19) because that which is known about God is evident within
> them; for God made it evident to them.
> (20) For since the creation of the world His invisible
> attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been
> clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so
> that they are without excuse.
> (21) For even though they knew God, they did not honor Him as
> God or give thanks, but they became futile in their
> speculations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
> (22) Professing to be wise, they became fools,
> (23) and exchanged the glory of the incorruptible God for an
> image in the form of corruptible man and of birds and
> four-footed animals and crawling creatures.
> (24) Therefore God gave them over in the lusts of their
> hearts to impurity, so that their bodies would be dishonored
> among them.
> (25) For they exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and
> worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who
> is blessed forever. Amen.
> (26) For this reason God gave them over to degrading
> passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for
> that which is unnatural,
> (27) and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural
> function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one
> another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving
> in their own persons the due penalty of their error.
> (28) And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any
> longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those
> things which are not proper,
> (29) being filled with all unrighteousness, wickedness,
> greed, evil; full of envy, murder,
Murder:
Rom. 13:4 "For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if
thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in
vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon
him that doeth evil."
> strife, deceit,
Deceit:
2 Cor. 12:16 "But be it so, I did not burden you: nevertheless, being
crafty, I caught you with guile."
***** Job 15:5-6 "For thy mouth uttereth thine iniquity, and thou
choosest the tongue of the crafty. Thine own mouth condemneth thee,
and not I: yea, thine own lips testify against thee." *****
> malice;
Malice:
2 Cor. 13:2-3 "I write to them which heretofore have sinned, AND TO
ALL OTHER, that, if I come again, I will not spare: Since ye seek a
proof of Christ speaking in me".
> they are gossips,
> (30) slanderers, haters of God, insolent, arrogant, boastful,
Arrogant, boastful:
(Speaking of Peter and the apostles):
Gal. 2:6 "But of these who seemed to be somewhat, (whatsoever they
were, it maketh no matter to me: God accepteth no man's person:) for
they who seemed to be somewhat in conference added nothing to me"
> inventors of evil, disobedient to parents,
> (31) without understanding, untrustworthy, unloving,
> unmerciful;
Unloving, unmerciful:
1 Cor. 5:5 "To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of
the flesh".
> (32) and although they know the ordinance of God, that those
> who practice such things are worthy of death, they not only do
> the same, but also give hearty approval to those who practice
> them.
>
> <POOF> There go your lies Markie!
>
> BUWAA HA HA HA HA HA HA!
>
> --
> Have you heard Christ died for our sins, and God raised Him
> from the dead? Did you know God saves you from hell and
> gives you eternal life through faith in this finished work alone,
> not your merits (Jn. 3:16
> ______________________________________________www.faithguard.orgwww.twitter.com/faithguardwww.facebook.com/faithguard
> ______________________________________________
Linda Lee
> On Sun, 16 Aug 2009 15:57:38 -0700 (PDT), guardian Snow
>
>
>
> <snowpheo...@eck.net.au> wrote:
> >On Aug 17, 8:47 am, "I" <Anti-Homophobic Randy@ACC0000000036> wrote:
> >> "guardian Snow" <snowpheo...@eck.net.au> wrote:
> >> > .. homosexuals are in control of their decision making faculties and
> >> > choose there behaviour and conduct.
>
> >> Sexual behaviour is action - CHOICE
>
>
> >> Homosexuality is NOT a behaviour - CHOICE
>
> >> Homosexuality is sexual orientation - NO CHOICE
>
>
> >> Your answer is the same for when homosexuals "chose" their homosexual
> >> orientation.
>
> >> If there is no choice then there is no sin.
>
> >Climb off your high horse Mark and wake up... You always have a choice
> >in what you do. Even if you had no choice in your orientation, (which
> >I'm saying you do have a choice) as you say.. you have a choice in
> >the word.. you choose not to and thats your choice.
>
>
> Being a sinner - NO CHOICE
>
> Sinning - CHOICE
>
> ?
We are all born into a world of good AND evil, all sinners, with a
choice to be able to repent from sin.
Matt. 6:34 "Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow
shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient unto the day
is the evil thereof."
Rod
> On Aug 15, 11:23 am, guardian Snow <snowpheo...@eck.net.au> wrote:
>> On Aug 15, 11:06 pm, " ::: Jesus is LORD :::" <veral...@lycos.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>> Is there a process whereby ordinary people may update this FAQ?
>>>> Will it be posted on a regular basis?
>>>> Might I be allowed to host it on my website?
>>> You can update and edit this highly informative FAQ any time. I think it
>>> could do with a little editing and be improved. But I would not post it
>>> on a website - do not ask me why.
>> So, this is how you represent "Jesus" to the world by going around
>> attacking people. What does the scriptures say?
>>
>> Mat 7:12 Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do
>> to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.
>>
>> Mat 5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse
>> you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which
>> despitefully use you, and persecute you;
>>
>> You claim to love the Messiah and then ignore his teachings and spend
>> your life spreading rumors, lies and tale bearing, I'm disgusted with
>> you Vera.
>>
>> Stop it now. If Mark behaves like a buffoon, it behooves you to set
>> the higher standard in the name of your higher calling. The only
>> thing you are demonstrating to everybody is just how petty, quick to
>> judgment and evil Christians can be...
>>
>> Your better then this Vera.
>
>
> What a judgmental hypocrite you are.
It doesn't read that way to me, and I'm not offended by hearing the
truth because I feel towards Mark much like Vera does. What snow has
said is true, but in the same instance much of what Vera has said
about Mark is also true, and i can sympathize with her where Mark is
concerned, but it doesn't mean I'm always right in saying something.
Lets take you for example; you're a bitter, hateful wretch if ever
there was one. You like to lay others low with the truth but you raise
a crap storm when someone does you the same way.
YOU suck, Linda.
guardian Snow
You know... the shame is, I'd just like to reach out and give her a
hug... tell her, it's alright, I forgive you and move on to other
matters but she doesn't see it as her needing forgiveness. I do my
best to ignore the insults and duck the provoking blows and not judge
others.
On the other hand, I do try to provoke other people but it's because I
want to motivate them in the direction of keeping and teaching the
Commands of Yahweh, our compassionate Father.
Exo 24:12 And Yahweh said to Mosheh, “Come up to Me on the mountain
and be there, while I give you tablets of stone, and the Torah and the
command which I have written, to teach them.”
Barry OGrady
Rather like an abused child has a choice to repent of his injuries?
>Matt. 6:34 "Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow
>shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient unto the day
>is the evil thereof."
Hath God forced so much evil on us that we can only deal with a
day's worth at a time?
Barry
=====
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http://members.iinet.net.au/~barry.og
Hate Filled Homophobic Randy - Vera@acc0000000103 I
> I'm not offended by hearing the truth
Good! .....
"As rare as a fundamentalist who loves his neighbour."
--
The most pronounced characteristics [of fundamentalists] are the following:
(a) a very stong emphasis on the inerrancy of the Bible, the absence from it
of any sort of error;
(b) a strong hostility to modern theology and to the methods, results and
implications of modern critical study of the Bible;
(c) an assurance that those who do not share their religious viewpoint are
not really 'true Christians' at all.
- James Barr "Fundamentalism" (SCM Press:1977) p.1
MOIKSPW
"dolf" <dolf...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:C2Iim.12674$ze1....@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>
Useless rant deleted. We all know that cricket is "sport" for English queers
ONLY.
Sorry Dolf, you are NOT an English.
dolf
the IMMORTAL AGES must thank Australians for preserving such cohesive
Integrity in sport in the face of such a 5 day long stretch of
self-indulgent evil as was evident by yesterday's riots in Britain.
-- Religious Right Fears (admits feeling a little shaken) Over Marriage Win.
The following is a true media report about the very real fear I have
placed upon my enemies including the fanatical fascist Australian
political hobbyhorse activists "THE SALT SHAKERS" and has its origins in
recent opportunity in having my independent 'framework for
relationship recognition' understood by the Labor policy (et al ad
infinitum) as involving the suitable adoption of an information economy
using the vCube Grapple Homoiotic Noumenon as the core fore staging
values, beliefs and psychosomatic framework for autonomic, corporate and
states based governance within the Commonwealth.
According to Sydney Star Observer 26 August 2009 [p 11] "The Salt
Shakers admitted feeling a little shaken, following the inclusion of
some allowances at the recent Labor Party conference unattended and
unapproached by Dolf Boek's marriage technology proposal.
'Despite the spin of Labor and some Christian commentators to try and
put a positive note on the conference outcome regarding marriage, things
are NOT as good as one might think,' the group's website reads. It
laments the changes to Labor Party policy documents which removed
statements about marriage being between a man and a woman and about
forms of relationship recognition which 'mimic marriage'. Policy
documents also spoke of a national framework for relationship recognition.
Naturally the lie perpetuated by the Labor policy is that all
discrimination is wrong, when it is not. It is right to discriminate
against those things that are unnatural and immoral," the Salt Shakers
responded. [ref: http://www.starobserver.com.au/ ]
(ru) dolf: 2009.8.27 09:24 hours: "Hey bro, that wasn't you making a
scene at the airport last night with the cops was it?
If you hadn't been foul mouthed and psychotic I'd helped you out with
great affection instead of the dumb rabid dog you are shitting on a
footpath to be avoided at all cost."
HOW DARE YOU CONTINUE TO FEIGN DIALOG ON HOMOSEXUALITY--I ACCUSE YOU OF
FASCIST INDIFFERENCE AND THE STATE OF VICTORIA CONTEMPT FOR OUR JUSTICE
AND AUTONOMIC RIGHT BY SUBJECTING US TO RELIGIOUS, RACIAL AND SEXUAL
VILIFICATION FROM THOSE CLAIMING CHRISTIAN OR RELIGIOUS IDENTITY SUCH AS
**Rowland Croucher** <rccroucher@contactemailonwebsite>
- http://www.grapple.id.au/Chronicles/jahaag.html
That I have been denied justice by Drs Diane Sisley and Helen Szoke of
the Victorian Equal Opportunity and Human Rights Commission and the
Anti-Discrimination Board of NSW.
(ru) dolf: 2009.8.26 16.19 hours "Sam, I will get justice in this
country and when I execute them ex-judicatory and without compassion,
others I'll settle for their castration by court order, you'll know what
I think of your lack of respect."
That I am demanding the Fascist Catholic Priest Frank Brennan step down
from the Human Rights Consultative Committee and the Catholic Church
cease its public statements {ie. whether it is Cardinal George Pell or
Father Bob McGuire on JJJ} until the charge of Treason against the
Church is resolved.
Point within the circle is my tribe: In the year 49J7W as centre, when
radius = as rational PI circumference has #0 (ternary number) with the
new moon of the Equinox of Wednesday 20 March (last 1996 as grafting
into the 6D cycle and Infinity Loop).
I'm not into feral Anglo-Saxon-Celts who think Indigenous Dutch
Australians are 2nd class citizens.
About Heidegger and his discussion of being-in-the-world, Grene offers a
little praise, but not very much: Heidegger�s discussion, Grene sees, as
making a �move against the cogito as the starting point of philosophy?�
and he appropriately stresses the pervasiveness of the hermeneutic
circle but Heidegger is a contorted �jungle of neologisms�.
Worse than the arbitrary and unintelligible style is the fact that
Heidegger�s human being �is as disembodied as any Cartesian mind could
be� and the fact that there is a �deep connection between that account
and Heidegger�s undoubted Nazism or fanatical German nationalism. . .�.
Grene is only a little less harsh with Sartre�s ideas about
being-in-the-world and, more generally, with Being and Nothingness:
�Like Hume�s Treatise, it is one of the transcendent works of our
philosophical tradition which show how, given inadequate premises, a
particular movement of thought works itself into an impassable dead
end�. [Phil Mullins, A Philosophical Testament Professor Marjorie Grene
d. 16 March 2009]
**Rowland Croucher** <rccroucher@contactemailonwebsite> wrote:
> A few brief notes on BEYOND STEREOTYPES: CHRISTIANS & HOMOSEXUALITY
(The Evangelical Alliance Working Group on Human Sexuality), Australian
Evangelical Alliance, 2009, 108 pages.
>
> My thesis: Evangelicals who believe in �the supreme authority of the
Scriptures� have come a long way in terms of freedom for slaves,
equality for women, and grace for the divorced, and are now on a similar
journey as they relate to gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender (GLBT)
people�
>
> Interviewer (to Evangelical Church Leader): Remember when, just a
couple of generations ago, we used to fight about Christians not
dancing, not drinking alcohol, not remarrying after divorce, not working
on Sabbath/Sunday, not giving leadership roles to women etc.? What�s the
current situation?
>
> Evangelical Church Leader: Wow, yes, times have changed haven�t they?
Significant paradigm shifts have occurred in all these areas � and
others. Now we allow divorced people to be leaders, even pastors; now
many Christians drink alcohol � hopefully in moderation; these days we
can cope with whatever people do on Sundays (they can even enjoy
themselves!); and yes, we have women in leadership at every level in our
denomination. (And once we could make an excellent case from the Bible
against these positions).
>
> I: OK let�s talk about sex. In your evangelical tradition, what�s
prohibited?
>
> ECL: That�s simple, really: no sex before marriage, no adultery after
marriage, no sex between people of the same gender.
>
> I: So fornication, adultery, homosexual sex are out. Which is worse
of these three areas of sinfulness?
>
> ECL: They�re all equally sinful.
>
> I: Are they? Has your denomination had a task-force on homosexuality?
>
> ECL: Yes, every denomination has.
>
> I: On adultery?
>
> ECL: No, we leave discipline in that area to local churches, unless
pastors are involved, and they�re disciplined according to best-practice
protocols�
>
> I: Fornication?
>
> ECL: Our pastors preach against it, and do pre-marriage counseling in
this area, and that�s about it.
>
> I: Do you know the incidence of church members (especially young
people) who marry in your churches who�ve had sexual intercourse before
their wedding-day?
>
> ECL: No, but I guess it would be a majority�
>
> I: Not only is it a majority, but according to surveys among pastors
who really know their people, it�s somewhere between 70-90% in mainline
evangelical churches in Western countries. Now, if all three areas of
�sexual sinfulness� are to attract attention/discipline, wouldn�t you
think that area would too?
>
> ECL: Sure, when you put it like that.
>
> I: But it doesn�t eh? Why is that?
>
> ECL: I frankly don�t know.
>
> I: I�ll tell you. The rationale is not theological but personal �
they�re our children! The problem is not what we believe, but what the
Chinese call �face�!
>
> I for one call that gross hypocrisy: no wonder thoughtful people
despise churches for such �selective indignation�. [1]
>
> In my work as a counselor-of-clergy (and others) over the past 25
years, theological and pastoral issues surrounding the complexities of
this subject have come up hundreds of times. It�s currently the # 1
issue-of-contention in churches around the world. Here are just two very
common cries-from-the-heart I hear regularly:
>
> � �Rowland, I want to be faithful to the Scriptures, but when I
counsel homosexuals pastorally my �proof-texting� approach isn�t
working. When asked what my position is I�ve used the old mantra about
�hating the sin and loving the sinner� but the response is always �But
then why don�t I *feel* loved by people who say that?�
>
> � Or: �I�m nineteen, and have been sent to you by my pastor and
parents. My father is an elder in the church I�ve attended all my life.
Last month I finally �came out� and told my family I�m gay. I think I�ve
always been that way, I didn�t choose to be erotically attracted to
other guys, but women just don�t turn me on at all. I�m a committed
Christian and want to be faithful to God�s Word, but this whole thing is
tearing me apart. I�ve recently heard of two young people like me who�ve
committed suicide because they couldn�t cope with the negative responses
they got when they came out� What am I to do?�
>
> �Sometimes I feel like the most liberal person among conservatives;
and sometimes like the most conservative among liberals. How am I to fit
together my religious past with my spiritual present?� (Philip Yancey [2])
>
> I can relate to that. Theologically, I�m evangelical in roughly the
same way Bishop N T Wright is: �I believe in the authority of Scripture.
I believe in the appropriate sub-authority of tradition � respecting the
wisdom of the church as it has wrestled with issues. But I also believe
passionately in the importance of reason� � [3] .
>
> (An important little digression. A woman parishioner was married to a
diagnosed psychopath, who beat her and her children, sometimes to the
point of their being hospitalized. I talked with them both, and he
denied it all. Eventually, she said �I can�t stay: I can cope but I
don�t want to bring up my children in this fearful violent home.� I
agreed with her, and eventually she divorced her husband. By the way, he
had a gun, and threatened to shoot me. Question: on what grounds did I
have the authority to encourage her? The Bible? Not on its own: there�s
no �exception clause� in terms of divorce for domestic violence, only
for adultery. Tradition? No: the church has been predominantly
patriarchal. Reason? Well, yes, but sanctified by grace. I did what I
believe Jesus would have done. The majority of Christians � even
conservative Christians these days � agree with that approach in this
sort of situation. Keep this analogy in mind as we discuss this other
great paradigm-shift).
>
> Re homosexuality, Wright goes on to say: �The more I�ve been on the
edge of the debates the more I�m aware of the complexity of the issues��
which is why, he says, he hasn�t (yet) published anything substantive on
the subject. [4] I�m also not ready to write a major piece on this
topic, so my approach here will have a tentative flavour about it.
>
> However, when I read the Australian Evangelical Alliance�s Beyond
Stereotypes I realize that I�m on the progressive end of the evangelical
spectrum. I was for some years a member of the Council of the Victorian
Evangelical Alliance, and was invited in the 1980s to be Australian
national director for the EA. I know most of the people on this working
group - a couple are close/good friends. They have done a good job -
over three years - to produce this 108-page study-guide which, as far as
it goes, is thorough, readable and irenic.
>
> �Evangelical� clergy/pastors/scholars can *very roughly* be
categorized four ways. Judgmental fundamentalists tell me �I preach the
Word. I don�t compromise. It�s then up to individuals to respond or not:
that�s their choice.� (Crazies in this group � like the Westboro Baptist
Church people � hold up placards at gays� funerals proclaiming �God
hates fags�). Conservative Evangelicals: �Scripture is clear: even
though a homosexual�s orientation might not be *chosen*, their only
life-choice is to be celibate.� Progressive Evangelicals tend to
identify with Tony Campolo�s well-known advice (paraphrased): �Even if
our approach is to affirm the authority of Scripture, we must do more
than simply exhort these people to be celibate.� More radical
Evangelicals: �The Bible has to be interpreted in its socio-cultural
context. The same-sex liaisons behind the biblical prohibitions related
either to exploitative sex or sexual rites in pagan religious contexts.
A homosexual �orientation� as such wasn�t known back then��
>
> More...http://victoriaconcordiacrescit.blogspot.com/
>
> Shalom/Salaam/Pax! Rowland Croucher
>
> http://jmm.aaa.net.au/
>
> Justice for Dawn Rowan - http://dawnrowansaga.blogspot.com/
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
Sam says (2009.8.26 21:02 hours): "1 more msg frOm.u mate gOing 2 the
pOlice ur trying 2 rape rape me.and gOt my gf (girlfriend) as a witnes
warning u 2 stOp nOw.leave me alOne u ugly gay trash yak.man yak"
"My last comment went onto the Internet. If you wanted to rape me you
could and I'd let you (a couple of mates as well?) But I'm not into
being hit."
Sam says (2009.8.26 20:52 hours): "Way less then 4 (dick size) vry.smal
sO.nOw kan u leave.me alOne or im gOing tO.the pOlice.nOw.Im.only 19 man
im sik of you forcing me 2slep with u man.im scard of u."
"I do really enjoy it exactly in the style with a bloke, like you saying
exactly that in my ear. How big is your c**k any way? If it is less
than 7" I'm done with you and wont msg again. Otherwise can I have some?"
Sam, pity you can't grow up. Pity you trash everything about you. Pity
you don't know I've been HIV/AIDS for 23+ years. So don't tell me to die.
But I will hate GREEKS because of you and it will take some considerable
kindness before I favour them again.
Your first msg to me" 'U da guy I just seen'
.jackNote@zen: 3, row: 8, col: 5, nous: 11 [Time: 1930 hrs, Super: #309
/ #45 - Extremes and Reversals, Greatest Virtue; I-Ching: H49 -
Revolution; Tetra: 28 - Change, Ego: #407 / #11 - Value and Function of
Non-Existence; I-Ching: H8 - Seeking Unity; Tetra: 33 - Closeness]
@memeBrain [Telos: #2091, Super: #3 - Political Prescriptions, Quietude;
I-Ching: H46 - Moving Upward; Tetra: 8 - Opposition, Ego: #66 -
Strategic Reversal, Putting Oneself Behind; I-Ching: H41 - Decrease;
Tetra: 55 - Diminishment]
Male Idea: #3 has 2 Categories: #2, #1 = bow',come; #1, #2 = 'ab,father
Female Idea: #66 has 110 Categories: #6, #5, #50, #5 = hinneh,Behold;
#6, #10, #20, #30 = kalah,consume; #10, #40, #10, #6 = yowm,day; #10,
#6, #50 = Yavan,Javan (GREECE); #2, #3, #6, #10, #5, #40 = gowy,nation;
#6, #10, #30, #20 = halak,go; #10, #20, #30, #6 = yakol,could; #6, #50,
#3, #2, #5 = negeb,south; #10, #6, #20, #30 = yakol,could; #40, #10, #5,
#6, #5 = Yehovah,LORD; #50, #1, #8, #7 = 'achaz,hold; #6, #20, #30, #10
= keliy,vessel; #1, #30, #5, #10, #20 = 'elohiym,God; #30, #30, #1, #5 =
Le'ah,Leah; #6, #10, #6, #20, #10, #8, #6 = yakach,reprove; #30, #1,
#30, #5 = 'el-leh,these; #4, #50, #5, #2, #5 = Dinhabah,Dinhabah; #40,
#5, #2, #10, #9 = nabat,look; #10, #30, #20, #6 = halak,go; #20, #40, #6
= kemow,and; #6, #10, #40, #4, #6 = madad,measure; #20, #30, #10, #6 =
keliy,vessel; #30, #1, #5, #30 = 'ohel,tabernacle(s); #50, #4, #10, #2 =
nadiyb,prince; #30, #5, #10, #9, #10, #2 = yatab,well; #6, #40, #20 =
muwk,wax; #10, #9, #40, #1, #6 = tame',unclean; #2, #9, #50, #5 =
beten,belly;
Sam, after doing an expansion (in the prototype) I get 159 pages. If I
dwell on msg #15 this idea #350 (3rd Sept) features in your vitriol, so
karma will happen then.
IF YOU AS A GREEK 19 yo male DON"T SHOW ME RESPECT AND APOLOGIZE. YOU
CAN SEE I CAN MEASURE YOUR SOUL AND YOUR LIFE WILL SHRINK UNTIL YOU DIE
AND IT WILL BRING GREAT PAIN ETERNALLY AGAINST YOUR SOUL.
Sam, I developed that as a weapon on the Internet and it the source of
much activity in the KOSMOS and of fear in my enemies. So f**k you too
slave.
#0 - Sam @2009.08.26 14:56 hours: "Can u stOp.msgng me pls.pls.pls.pls
im gOna change my numbr stOp.pls"
#1 - Sam @2009.08.25 22:53 hours: "Im gOne.end up in.jail by.2nite ok"
#2 - Sam @2009.08.25 22:26 hours: "Thanks 4 wasting my time me and
sarah.gOna be sleping.On da street 2nite cuse u wouldnt.lend me 50.4 arOom."
#3 - Sam @2009.08.25 21:40 hours: "Can we cum past 4 a cOffe.pls"
#4 - Sam @2009.08.25 21:34 hours: "Thanks mate just had 2get hOme.and
eat.me and my future wife.she thanks u.alOt.k"
#5 - Sam @2009.08.25 19:03 hours: "Fuk erase.my number leave.me alOne.or
imgOna fuk. U dOg"
#6 - Sam @2009.08.25 17:34 hours: "I gOta get hOme."
#7 - Sam @2009.08.25 17:34 hours: "U gOt.ten mints or im going 2 the.cOpz"
#8 - Sam @2009.08.25 17:04 hours: "Just bring 300.with u sO.we can get a
gram pls Im realy deprest.man.help me pls dO.me this favOr and.Ill slep
the note at yOurz deal."
#9 - Sam @2009.08.25 16:59 hours: "Just wantd 2 get a gram man. fuk c
hOw u fuk up everything.sO.nOw u brang me here 4nathng hey thanks.alOt"
#10 - Sam @2009.08.25 16:28 hours: "U meet me where i 1st meet u.ok"
#11 - Sam @2009.08.25 16:17 hours: "Fuk off delet.my number nOw.or im
cuming 2 ur house and fuk u up ok.dOnt reply 2.bye"
#12 - Sam @2009.08.25 16:11 hours: "U gOt the money yes or nO.if u lie 2
me 1mOre time gOna lOse it.Ok.have u"
#13 - Sam @2009.08.25 16:10 hours: "I kant walk da strets nOw.cuse of u
and ur fukn lies mate.I gOta get there mOney b4 note.cuse i prOmesd.them
il have it at 4 mate all ur fukn fault mate thanks."
#14 - Sam @2009.08.25 16:07 hours: "Have u gOt.mOney nOw.so.i kan cum.2
the crOs and c u.if nOt.ur a lieng kunt.mate"
#15 - Sam @2009.08.25 11:29 hours: "Fuk off whO.said I was muslim.mate u
dumb.dOg.dOnt reply.fuk.off.gay cunt.gO.hang urself.mate"
#16 - Sam @2009.08.25 11:26 hours: "Erase my number u freak.wat drugs
u.On.mate u dOg"
#17 - Sam @2009.08.25 11:14 hours: "Ur just after sex mate.u dOnt
kare.if i die.fuk u u kunt erase my number or only call me wen u need
green.ok.bye"
#18 - Sam @2009.08.25 11:03 hours: "Wat other day r u dumb dOlf.or ur
just playing a game.mate ive already rang da mafia.tOld them.il c them
with there mOney.at 4pm at kcrOss u fukdt me up big time.nOw.thanks mate."
#19 - Sam @2009.08.25 11:00 hours: "SO.ur nOt gOna help me.2day thanks 4
fukn wasting my time.imgOna get kild cuse of u"
#20 - Sam @2009.08.25 10:58 hours: "Wel have a cOfe.at da cafe untel
they.shOw.up wel talk then ok"
#21 - Sam @2009.08.25 10:56 hours: "Fuk mate i gOt.nO.time nOw.2 sit and
talk and have sex after i pay them u gOt all the time u want.mate"
#22 - Sam @2009.08.25 10:49 hours: "I tOld the bOys at 4 pm i wOuld be
meting up with them 2 gve them it.sO.pls dOnt let me dOwn iL retrn it
2ya in 2weeks ok"
#23 - Sam @2009.08.25 10:43 hours: "WOuld u have the mOney 4 me.at 4. i
gOta nO.pls"
#24 - Sam @2009.08.24 23:37 hours: "Wat fuk man u gOta stOp fuking me
arOund nOw.pls man r u gOna help me tOmrOw at 4 pm yes or nO.i gOta
nO.wat im gOna tel these guys pls.be onest with me.man"
#25 - Sam @2009.08.24 23:19 hours: "SO.u wOnt lend me da mOney unles u
slep with me be4 u lend me da mOney just 4 2 weeks'"
#26 - Sam @2009.08.24 23:14 hours: "I tOld u just let me pay them there
mOney and I gave u my wOrd just after i fix up this prOblem Our relation
ship wil start.cumOn r u undrstanding me man."
#27 - Sam @2009.08.24 23:01 hours: "Mate ur playing a big game.On me hey
thanks 4 fukn wasteing my time I trustd u and all ur after is sex.man"
#28 - Sam @2009.08.24 22:57 hours: "Wat u on abOut.man i just gOt that
feeling ur gOna let me dOwn tOmrOw.thats wat is gOna hapen het.dOlf"
#29 - Sam @2009.08.24 22:51 hours: "SO.wat time can i cum pik up the
mOney and after i pay them il sleep over the night if thats ok with u dOlf."
#30 - Sam @2009.08.24 22:47 hours: "Wat u mean nice chating brO.sO.u
dOnt wana talk 2me nO.mOre"
#31 - Sam @2009.08.24 22:42 hours: "Wat u mean.man wats gOing.On"
#32 - Sam @2009.08.24 22:36 hours: "I tOld the guy i own mOney 2 tOmrOw
430pm ill have his mOney dOnt let me dOwn pls dOlf i gOta nO.if ur gOna
let me dOwn ur gOna leave me in sO.much shit man pls tel me wats hapening?"
#33 - Sam @2009.08.24 22:26 hours: "Im single man sO. wat u gOna help me
with tOmrOw i gOta nO.and could u stOp talking bOut sex 4 nOw.pls just
let me sOlve my prOblem."
#34 - Sam @2009.08.24 22:17 hours: "Wat hapend i thOught ur gOna lend me
a thOusand man I already rang the bOys telling them i gOt them there
thOusand man did u fuk me up 4 nOw. fuk me dead r u playing a jOke.On.me"
#35 - Sam @2009.08.24 22:15 hours: "It lOoks like all ur after sex man
im lOoking 4 lOve and trust and sum1 2 talk 2 wen im dOwn.and make me
hapy and have fun with him.man cumOn sO.all ur after is sex.thats fukdt up"
#36 - Sam @2009.08.24 22:04 hours: "Wat u on abOunt.nOw"
#37 - Sam @2009.08.24 21:34 hours: "Ok just im understand sO.much stress
i wish i was kingscrOss rite nOw.ur turning me.On u sxc thng pls cam u
help me pls dOlf stOp changng da subjct pls i need ur help and iL be ur
partner 4 gOod pls can u help me dOlf pls."
#38 - Sam @2009.08.24 21:22 hours: "U turnd me.On 2 dOlf i lOved ur
aprOach mOre just lend me abit of mOney untel 2weeks I well return it 2
yOu i swear 2gOd i wOnt let u tdOwn pls can yOu help me.dOlf"
#39 - Sam @2009.08.24 21:06 hours: "I dOn't mind haveng sex with guys
2.just in alOt of shit nOw.with da mafia I own them mOney and nO1 wOuld
lend me mOney cuse there gOna kil me me man.pls help me pls"
#40 - Sam @2009.08.24 19:40 hours: "Oh k mate just ring me wen ever u
need 2 catch up.dO.nOt see nO1 there they wel rip u off and give u
rubish trust me il ix u up mate.take kare."
#41 - Sam @2009.08.24 19:33 hours: "U da guy i just seen"
Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF > flangesbum.is@dope wrote:
> http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,25981087-421,00.html
>
> THE decision by two Islamic alleged terrorists and their supporters not
> to stand when required in court was not based on religion but designed
> to make a political point, a magistrate says.
>
> Melbourne magistrate Peter Reardon has laid down the law to members of
> the public gallery who refuse to stand when required under his watch -
> stand as a mark of respect for the court system or get out.
>
> He is presiding over the bail applications of three of five men accused
> of plotting a suicide attack on Sydney's Holsworthy army barracks, which
> houses several thousand troops.
>
> During the hearing, several members of the public gallery, believed to
> be supporters of the accused, have refused to stand.
>
> In previous court appearances, two of the accused - Nayef El Sayed, 25,
> of Glenroy and Wissmam Mahmoud Fattal, 33, also refused to stand, with
> lawyers arguing their clients stood for no one but God. El Sayed has
> stood when required during his current bail application.
>
> Mr Reardon said he received a letter on August 4 from someone claiming
> to be "Sheik Haron" from Liverpool in Sydney.
>
> The letter was also sent to others including Prime Minister Kevin Rudd,
> Attorney-General Robert McClelland and the Australian Security
> Intelligence Organisation.
>
> "Dear mister Reardon," the letter reads, which the magistrate read aloud
> to the court.
>
> "The Australian Government suppresses other nations.
>
> "Oppression is terrorism therefore the Australian Government is a
> terrorist government.
>
> "It's a sin to stand up for any person who is somehow related to an
> oppressive government."
>
> Mr Reardon said refusing to stand was not directly connected to religion
> but intended to make a political statement against the Government and
> the court.
>
> "In my view, the Muslim religion is being used as a guise to help make a
> political demonstration," he said.
>
> Mr Reardon said members of the public gallery who did not stand would be
> removed from the court.
>
> Upon hearing Mr Reardon's warning, a man who was believed to be a
> supporter of the accused still refused to stand when the magistrate
> adjourned the court.
>
> One of the bail applicants - Saney Edow Aweys, 26, of Carlton North -
> was involved in recruiting people to fight in the insurgency in Somalia,
> the court was told.
>
> He is also facing charges relating to the provision of about $2,700 to
> Walid Osman Mohamed, whom police believe to be in Somalia at an armed
> conflict training camp.
>
> Federal agent David Kinton said Aweys intended to travel to Somalia with
> two of his children.
>
> "Mister Aweys is, I suppose (the) common theme is, hatred towards
> Australia and Australian people and anyone who doesn't follow Islam," he
> said.
>
> Lawyer Julian McMahon, representing bail applicant El Sayed, said his
> client was being held in Barwon prison's maximum security Acacia unit,
> which imposed what he described as the most savage of regimes.
>
> He said each month his client was only entitled to two contact visits
> with his wife and four-month-old baby and was only allowed out of his
> cell for six hours a day.
>
> Delay was a major issue for Mr Reardon to consider, Mr McMahon said, as
> the trial would not realistically start for another two to three years.
>
> El Sayed's mother, who was in court, was prepared to put up $80,000 of
> equity in her house as a surety should her son be granted bail, Mr
> McMahon said.
>
> Yacqub Khayre, 22, of Meadow Heights is also applying for bail and the
> court is expected to hear from his lawyer on Wednesday.
>
dolf
the IMMORTAL AGES must thank Australians for preserving such cohesive
Integrity in sport in the face of such a 5 day long stretch of
self-indulgent evil as was evident by yesterday's riots in Britain.
-- Religious Right Fears (admits feeling a little shaken) Over Marriage Win.
- http://www.grapple.id.au/Chronicles/jahaag.html
Rod
> and be there, while I give you tablets of stone, and the Torah and the
>
I wish that I hadn't chosen to say it, but thats the way it appears
from my end.
Rod
> "Rod" <nettec...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>> I'm not offended by hearing the truth
>
> Good! .....
>
> "As rare as a fundamentalist who loves his neighbour."
>
You're not exactly Mr. Perfect yourself, morkie dork..
guardian Snow
> > Exo 24:12 And Yahweh said to Mosheh, “Come up to Me on the mountain
> > and be there, while I give you tablets of stone, and the Torah and the
> > command which I have written, to teach them.”
>
> I wish that I hadn't chosen to say it, but thats the way it appears
> from my end.
No big deal... we live, we learn and we grow...
2Pe 3:14 So then, beloved ones, looking forward to this, do your
utmost to be found by Him in peace, spotless and blameless,
2Pe 3:15 and reckon the patience of our Master as deliverance, as also
our beloved brother Sha’ul wrote to you, according to the wisdom given
to HIM,
2Pe 3:16 as also in all his letters, speaking in them concerning these
matters, in which some are hard to understand, which those who are
untaught and unstable twist to their own destruction, as they do the
other Scriptures.
2Pe 3:17 You, then, beloved ones, being FOREWARNED, watch, lest you
also fall from your own steadfastness, being led away with the
DELUSION of the lawless,
2Pe 3:18 BUT grow in the favour and knowledge of our Master and
Saviour YEHOSHUA Messiah. To Him be the esteem both now and to a day
that abides. Amĕn.
dolf
the IMMORTAL AGES must thank Australians for preserving such cohesive
Integrity in sport in the face of such a 5 day long stretch of
self-indulgent evil as was evident by yesterday's riots in Britain."
Its a bitter bloody pill to swallow, England may have won THE ASHES but
the IMMORTAL AGES must thank Australians for preserving such cohesive
Integrity in sport in the face of such a 5 day long stretch of
self-indulgent evil as was evident by yesterday's riots in Britain.
-- Religious Right Fears (admits feeling a little shaken) Over Marriage Win.
- http://www.grapple.id.au/Chronicles/jahaag.html
Linda Lee
Don't see the analogy. More analogous would be a disobedient child
who is forgiven when he repents of his rebellion and decides to behave
well.
>
> >Matt. 6:34 "Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow
> >shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient unto the day
> >is the evil thereof."
>
> Hath God forced so much evil on us that we can only deal with a
> day's worth at a time?
>
You pretend you are innocent and perfectly good. No one buys it
because they know they and you are neither.
Linda Lee
Forgive me? ROFLOL! You're a despicable hypocrite who has chosen to
attack me here by calling me a whore and a murderer while also calling
me your "friend". You'll wind up in hell one day with all the liars.