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iqn...@noemail.com
May 25, 2013, 8:15:54 AM5/25/13
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May 26, 2013, 1:43:07 AM5/26/13
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On Sat, 25 May 2013 21:05:48 -0700
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Pete <n...@nya.biz> wrote:
> Very beautiful song. I checked out some others because of L iked this one
> so much. Many beautiful songs.
>
> Yet I noticed the Name of Jesus is missing in all the titles..
>
> Is there an explanation understanding for this?
The name for Jesus, can be many other names,
depending on language and/or culture.
It's a BIG world out there.
Jesus Christ, is sung about in many different ways,
so everyone will understand.
Just to show my point...
Here's another one, that is translated to Portuguese:
Paul Wilbur - Baruch Adonai / Shout of El Shaddai
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fw-pwZ1bOBQ
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Pete <n...@nya.biz> wrote:
> so much. Many beautiful songs.
>
> Yet I noticed the Name of Jesus is missing in all the titles..
>
> Is there an explanation understanding for this?
The name for Jesus, can be many other names,
depending on language and/or culture.
It's a BIG world out there.
Jesus Christ, is sung about in many different ways,
so everyone will understand.
Just to show my point...
Here's another one, that is translated to Portuguese:
Paul Wilbur - Baruch Adonai / Shout of El Shaddai
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fw-pwZ1bOBQ
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iqn...@noemail.com
May 26, 2013, 10:00:29 PM5/26/13
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On Sun, 26 May 2013 09:29:22 -0700
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Pete <n...@nya.biz> wrote:
Pete wrote:
> But one cannot deny the son by excluding him or his names, and hope to be
> part with the father. By this I mean publicly. There appears to be a
> reality of worship, and I looked for some possible youtube teachings from
> him and saw nothing as yet.
>
> I suppose I am asking, what evidence does on have as to his being born
> again and teaching that to others?
The last video I linked to, was only a segment of the entire
praise service. If you watched all of it, you would know
that there is nothing wrong.
Not to mention, that the Messiah was sung about in
that last segment also.
Yeshua Ha'Mashiah --> at the 5:00 minute marker is one of them.
Remember, that this is Messianic music.
They use English mixed with Hebrew. Listen for it.
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Pete <n...@nya.biz> wrote:
> But one cannot deny the son by excluding him or his names, and hope to be
> part with the father. By this I mean publicly. There appears to be a
> reality of worship, and I looked for some possible youtube teachings from
> him and saw nothing as yet.
>
> I suppose I am asking, what evidence does on have as to his being born
> again and teaching that to others?
The last video I linked to, was only a segment of the entire
praise service. If you watched all of it, you would know
that there is nothing wrong.
Not to mention, that the Messiah was sung about in
that last segment also.
Yeshua Ha'Mashiah --> at the 5:00 minute marker is one of them.
Remember, that this is Messianic music.
They use English mixed with Hebrew. Listen for it.
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iqn...@noemail.com
May 27, 2013, 1:32:03 AM5/27/13
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On Sun, 26 May 2013 21:39:34 -0700
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Pete <m...@ham.mer> wrote:
> I quite prematurely on that one probably because I sat through many others.
> So yes I did see him mentioned a few times near the end.
Baruch Adonai - Blessed is the Lord.
Which, the theme of it is based on this verse:
[Matt 23:39]
For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say,
Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.
> > Not to mention, that the Messiah was sung about in
> > that last segment also.
> >
> > Yeshua Ha'Mashiah --> at the 5:00 minute marker is one of them.
> >
> > Remember, that this is Messianic music.
> >
> > They use English mixed with Hebrew. Listen for it.
> I guess I am missing the point of a Messianic. I understood that we Jew and
> Gentile are one in the Lord, brothers and grafted into the same tree.
Mainline Messianic beliefs are close to Mainline Christian beliefs.
Think of it as culture difference.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messianic_Judaism
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Pete <m...@ham.mer> wrote:
> So yes I did see him mentioned a few times near the end.
Baruch Adonai - Blessed is the Lord.
Which, the theme of it is based on this verse:
[Matt 23:39]
For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say,
Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.
> > Not to mention, that the Messiah was sung about in
> > that last segment also.
> >
> > Yeshua Ha'Mashiah --> at the 5:00 minute marker is one of them.
> >
> > Remember, that this is Messianic music.
> >
> > They use English mixed with Hebrew. Listen for it.
> Gentile are one in the Lord, brothers and grafted into the same tree.
Mainline Messianic beliefs are close to Mainline Christian beliefs.
Think of it as culture difference.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messianic_Judaism
iqn...@noemail.com
May 27, 2013, 4:47:00 AM5/27/13
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On Mon, 27 May 2013 05:32:03 +0000 (UTC)
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Here's another one that should be more apparent to you:
Paul Wilbur - Crowned with many Crowns
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0qoZIyo_p8
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Paul Wilbur - Crowned with many Crowns
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0qoZIyo_p8
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May 27, 2013, 10:50:00 PM5/27/13
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On Mon, 27 May 2013 09:08:12 -0700
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Pete <n...@nya.biz> wrote:
<snip previous dialog>
Pete wrote:
> I guess I am missing the point of a Messianic. I understood that we Jew and
> Gentile are one in the Lord, brothers and grafted into the same tree.
> WIKI help a little, although I could see some who disagree with each other
> and it isn't surprising.
Yes, they have problems, just like those in Christianity.
But theirs, is mostly related to Judaism.
Pete wrote:
> The last song you posted helped a lot in Understanding.
Good.
Pete wrote:
> I would really like to see not just the praise but the teaching of the word
> and Faith through Christ Jesus. Obviously in order to have the Spirit of God
> one must be saved through Jesus first.
Every ministry is different. This one, is a praise ministry.
I have been to events like those, and while you may not see
evidence of it in the video's, I can assure you, that they
preached the message of Jesus Christ.
They are usually an all day event.
Pete wrote:
> If all the peoples in those meetings are Believing Jews then I
> am most happy!
They are most likely, from all walks of faith and peoples.
Pete wrote:
> The Lord said he would have a remnant for himself in spite of the
> overwhelming blindness (in part) The remnant brings Joy to me as I know
> that being a Gentile that the Graciousness of God the Father for me to be
> born in such a time as the covenant of His Blood enabled me to be a
> believer and trust in Him.
[Eph 2:8]
For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves:
it is the gift of God:
Pete wrote:
> Gentiles lost for years, with only remnants from times past, and now
> there is a falling away of those as well.
>
> To be one in the Lord with the broken down walls and grafted into
> the same tree brings me joy.
All the children of Jacob, except Levi,
were reckoned with the Gentiles.
Which begs the question, who is Israel?
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Pete <n...@nya.biz> wrote:
<snip previous dialog>
Pete wrote:
> I guess I am missing the point of a Messianic. I understood that we Jew and
> Gentile are one in the Lord, brothers and grafted into the same tree.
IQN wrote:
> Mainline Messianic beliefs are close to Mainline Christian beliefs.
>
> Think of it as culture difference.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messianic_Judaism
>
> Here's another one that should be more apparent to you:
>
> Paul Wilbur - Crowned with many Crowns
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0qoZIyo_p8
Pete wrote:
> Mainline Messianic beliefs are close to Mainline Christian beliefs.
>
> Think of it as culture difference.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messianic_Judaism
>
> Here's another one that should be more apparent to you:
>
> Paul Wilbur - Crowned with many Crowns
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0qoZIyo_p8
> WIKI help a little, although I could see some who disagree with each other
> and it isn't surprising.
Yes, they have problems, just like those in Christianity.
But theirs, is mostly related to Judaism.
Pete wrote:
> The last song you posted helped a lot in Understanding.
Good.
Pete wrote:
> I would really like to see not just the praise but the teaching of the word
> and Faith through Christ Jesus. Obviously in order to have the Spirit of God
> one must be saved through Jesus first.
Every ministry is different. This one, is a praise ministry.
I have been to events like those, and while you may not see
evidence of it in the video's, I can assure you, that they
preached the message of Jesus Christ.
They are usually an all day event.
Pete wrote:
> If all the peoples in those meetings are Believing Jews then I
> am most happy!
They are most likely, from all walks of faith and peoples.
Pete wrote:
> The Lord said he would have a remnant for himself in spite of the
> overwhelming blindness (in part) The remnant brings Joy to me as I know
> that being a Gentile that the Graciousness of God the Father for me to be
> born in such a time as the covenant of His Blood enabled me to be a
> believer and trust in Him.
[Eph 2:8]
For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves:
it is the gift of God:
Pete wrote:
> Gentiles lost for years, with only remnants from times past, and now
> there is a falling away of those as well.
>
> To be one in the Lord with the broken down walls and grafted into
> the same tree brings me joy.
All the children of Jacob, except Levi,
were reckoned with the Gentiles.
Which begs the question, who is Israel?
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Nancy
May 28, 2013, 12:15:02 PM5/28/13
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Nancy
Thanks! Paul Wilbur is my favorite ....and the Days of Elijah my
favorite song! 8-) How ture it is!
Nancy
May 28, 2013, 12:18:10 PM5/28/13
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On May 26, 12:29 pm, Pete <n...@nya.biz> wrote:
Nancy
Publicly? What public statment do you make when you have your emails
removed
~~~
There appears to be a
> reality of worship, and I looked for some possible youtube teachings from
> him and saw nothing as yet.
>
> I suppose I am asking, what evidence does on have as to his being born
> again and teaching that to others?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
> On Sun, 26 May 2013 05:43:07 +0000 (UTC), <iqn...@noemail.com> wrote:
> > On Sat, 25 May 2013 21:05:48 -0700
> > Message-ID: <BSfot.45665$KM4.30...@newsfe25.iad>
> > On Sat, 25 May 2013 21:05:48 -0700
> But one cannot deny the son by excluding him or his names, and hope to be
> part with the father. By this I mean publicly.
~~~
> part with the father. By this I mean publicly.
Nancy
Publicly? What public statment do you make when you have your emails
removed
~~~
There appears to be a
> reality of worship, and I looked for some possible youtube teachings from
> him and saw nothing as yet.
>
> I suppose I am asking, what evidence does on have as to his being born
>
> - Show quoted text -
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Nancy
May 28, 2013, 8:12:38 PM5/28/13
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On May 28, 5:10 pm, Pete <n...@nya.biz> wrote:
> That my words are not permanent.
~~~
Nancy
I do not understand......your words are your testimony. Suppose Jesus
or the early Church had felt this way?
> Peter
> A living Stone
> A Disciple of The Lord Jesus Christ
> Joh 13:34-35 KJV- Hide quoted text -
~~~
Nancy
I do not understand......your words are your testimony. Suppose Jesus
or the early Church had felt this way?
~~~
> > There appears to be a
> >> reality of worship, and I looked for some possible youtube teachings from
> >> him and saw nothing as yet.
>
> >> I suppose I am asking, what evidence does on have as to his being born
> >> again and teaching that to others?- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> --
> > There appears to be a
> >> reality of worship, and I looked for some possible youtube teachings from
> >> him and saw nothing as yet.
>
> >> I suppose I am asking, what evidence does on have as to his being born
> >> again and teaching that to others?- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> Peter
> A living Stone
> A Disciple of The Lord Jesus Christ
> Joh 13:34-35 KJV- Hide quoted text -
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May 29, 2013, 2:06:38 AM5/29/13
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On Tue, 28 May 2013 08:03:51 -0700
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> From my understanding Israel is Israel. All twelve tribes. All the tribes
> have separated themselves from God according to the old testament. All are
> divorced from what I have read.
There is more to it than we realize. It was just something to ponder.
> In the time of Jacobs troubles 12 thousand from each tribe, virgin young
> men will be anointed by God for ministry world wide, and I would suspect
> mainly for Israel. Along with the two witnesses Gods word will be revealed.
>
> Unfortunately the Levites will allow the anti-christ to sit on the throne
> of the temple they have at the ready. He, of course, will proclaim himself
> to be God. At the end of the seven years that remain alloted to the Jew
> those Levites and their families will be destroyed. And when the Prince of
> Peace established world peace He will purge all of Israel, and call back to
> the land of their ancestors all those who currently live elsewhere. They
> will live in the lands originally promised to Abram, each tribe living on
> that in a horizontal fashion from the top down.
>
> The Levites will be demoted Eze 44 to support services in the New Temple,
> The one described in Ezekiel and those of Zadok will take their place. EXE
> 43:19 and then the LORD will choose those of other nations to serve Him as
> well.
>
> Thus the Lord will fulfill His promise to the Jews from times of old.
As you may have noticed - I don't get into prophecy too much.
There are literally dozens of independent views on them. I came
to the conclusion that they cannot be fully understood until they
are fulfilled. So, I finally gave up on predicting the future, <grin>
and just read them the best I can. That was years ago.
These days, I focus on Symbolism, Ordinances and Laws.
They hold the keys to understanding the global scope of what
happened in things past, and how the plan of God, was revealed
through them. For instance, Passover.
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IQN wrote:
> All the children of Jacob, except Levi,
> were reckoned with the Gentiles.
>
> Which begs the question, who is Israel?
Pete wrote:
> All the children of Jacob, except Levi,
> were reckoned with the Gentiles.
>
> Which begs the question, who is Israel?
> From my understanding Israel is Israel. All twelve tribes. All the tribes
> have separated themselves from God according to the old testament. All are
> divorced from what I have read.
There is more to it than we realize. It was just something to ponder.
> In the time of Jacobs troubles 12 thousand from each tribe, virgin young
> men will be anointed by God for ministry world wide, and I would suspect
> mainly for Israel. Along with the two witnesses Gods word will be revealed.
>
> Unfortunately the Levites will allow the anti-christ to sit on the throne
> of the temple they have at the ready. He, of course, will proclaim himself
> to be God. At the end of the seven years that remain alloted to the Jew
> those Levites and their families will be destroyed. And when the Prince of
> Peace established world peace He will purge all of Israel, and call back to
> the land of their ancestors all those who currently live elsewhere. They
> will live in the lands originally promised to Abram, each tribe living on
> that in a horizontal fashion from the top down.
>
> The Levites will be demoted Eze 44 to support services in the New Temple,
> The one described in Ezekiel and those of Zadok will take their place. EXE
> 43:19 and then the LORD will choose those of other nations to serve Him as
> well.
>
> Thus the Lord will fulfill His promise to the Jews from times of old.
As you may have noticed - I don't get into prophecy too much.
There are literally dozens of independent views on them. I came
to the conclusion that they cannot be fully understood until they
are fulfilled. So, I finally gave up on predicting the future, <grin>
and just read them the best I can. That was years ago.
These days, I focus on Symbolism, Ordinances and Laws.
They hold the keys to understanding the global scope of what
happened in things past, and how the plan of God, was revealed
through them. For instance, Passover.
Nancy
May 29, 2013, 8:04:00 AM5/29/13
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On May 28, 11:18 pm, Pete <m...@ham.mer> wrote:
> I am not Jesus, I am in the process of being made perfect. While some
> ascribe the words of the Bible to me in order to blunt the sword, those
> words do remain, and I place my confidence in the word of God, tomorrow I
> may learn more, some would seek to hold me back to their understandings
> rather than walk in the light themselves.
>
> What difference does it make? One should check out Gods word and base their
> belief on God through Jesus Christ. Then make the truth their own.
~~~
Nancy
It does not matter to me.....but I would think it would to God. It's
hard for me to take anyone serious when they refuse to stand by their
word. Each and every one that has been called has been called with a
purpose. What good are you to God when you are afraid to let your
voice be heard?
14 Then he said, 'The God of our fathers has chosen you that you
should know His will, and see the Just One, and hear the voice of His
mouth. 15 For you will be His witness to all men of what you have seen
and heard.
Acts 22:13-15 (NKJV)
>
> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
> ascribe the words of the Bible to me in order to blunt the sword, those
> words do remain, and I place my confidence in the word of God, tomorrow I
> may learn more, some would seek to hold me back to their understandings
> rather than walk in the light themselves.
>
> What difference does it make? One should check out Gods word and base their
> belief on God through Jesus Christ. Then make the truth their own.
~~~
Nancy
It does not matter to me.....but I would think it would to God. It's
hard for me to take anyone serious when they refuse to stand by their
word. Each and every one that has been called has been called with a
purpose. What good are you to God when you are afraid to let your
voice be heard?
14 Then he said, 'The God of our fathers has chosen you that you
should know His will, and see the Just One, and hear the voice of His
mouth. 15 For you will be His witness to all men of what you have seen
and heard.
Acts 22:13-15 (NKJV)
~~~
>
> >>> There appears to be a
> >>>> reality of worship, and I looked for some possible youtube teachings from
> >>>> him and saw nothing as yet.
>
> >>>> I suppose I am asking, what evidence does on have as to his being born
> >>>> again and teaching that to others?- Hide quoted text -
>
> >>>> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> >>> There appears to be a
> >>>> reality of worship, and I looked for some possible youtube teachings from
> >>>> him and saw nothing as yet.
>
> >>>> I suppose I am asking, what evidence does on have as to his being born
> >>>> again and teaching that to others?- Hide quoted text -
>
>
> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
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May 29, 2013, 1:41:16 PM5/29/13
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On May 29, 11:54 am, Pete <m...@ham.mer> wrote:
> Your assumptions are not my ideals. If I speak and include scripture then
> that scripture is my foundation. My words mean little in comparison and
> pale to the wisdom and knowledge of God. I have stated many times if I say
> something judge it by the word of God. If I am wrong show me that I might
> learn, but not in the light of dogma, but in light of the word.
>
> If you personally have a problem, so be it. There is nothing that says one
> cannot ask a question, so feel free to do so if there be a need.
~~~
Nancy
Personal problem? No, I have no such problem. I am here to learn from
God. To be the best I can be. For this reason I place my full name to
show I'm not afraid or shameful to stand with God for eternity.
I too give scripture for the reason of showing what God has revealed
to me.....and to show how excited I am to belong to Him.
~~~
> > 14 Then he said, 'The God of our fathers has chosen you that you
> > should know His will, and see the Just One, and hear the voice of His
> > mouth. 15 For you will be His witness to all men of what you have seen
> > and heard.
> > Acts 22:13-15 (NKJV)
> > ~~~
>
> I do bear witness of the Lord Jesus Christ. As one who is Born Again I am a
> child of God. When I feel mature enough in the word then perhaps I remove
> the X-command. If one really wants that badly to know they can ask or look
> it up somewhere else on the Net. Sorry you feel so uncomfortable about it.-
~~~
Nancy
As I said I am here to learn from God....not so much from you....but
to me it seems you are hiding your light under a basket.
I have thought about this.....no, I do not want to be such a
Christian.
so long.....
~~~
> that scripture is my foundation. My words mean little in comparison and
> pale to the wisdom and knowledge of God. I have stated many times if I say
> something judge it by the word of God. If I am wrong show me that I might
> learn, but not in the light of dogma, but in light of the word.
>
> If you personally have a problem, so be it. There is nothing that says one
> cannot ask a question, so feel free to do so if there be a need.
~~~
Nancy
Personal problem? No, I have no such problem. I am here to learn from
God. To be the best I can be. For this reason I place my full name to
show I'm not afraid or shameful to stand with God for eternity.
I too give scripture for the reason of showing what God has revealed
to me.....and to show how excited I am to belong to Him.
~~~
> > 14 Then he said, 'The God of our fathers has chosen you that you
> > should know His will, and see the Just One, and hear the voice of His
> > mouth. 15 For you will be His witness to all men of what you have seen
> > and heard.
> > Acts 22:13-15 (NKJV)
> > ~~~
>
> child of God. When I feel mature enough in the word then perhaps I remove
> the X-command. If one really wants that badly to know they can ask or look
> it up somewhere else on the Net. Sorry you feel so uncomfortable about it.-
~~~
Nancy
As I said I am here to learn from God....not so much from you....but
to me it seems you are hiding your light under a basket.
I have thought about this.....no, I do not want to be such a
Christian.
so long.....
~~~
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Up from the Abyss
May 30, 2013, 6:44:38 PM5/30/13
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"Pete" wrote:
> iqnews wrote:
> >
> > Paul Wilbur - Baruch Adonai / Shout of El Shaddai
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fw-pwZ1bOBQ
>
> >
> > Paul Wilbur - Baruch Adonai / Shout of El Shaddai
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fw-pwZ1bOBQ
>
> But one cannot deny the son by excluding him or his names,
> and hope to be part with the father. By this I mean publicly.
> and hope to be part with the father. By this I mean publicly.
> There appears to be a reality of worship, and I looked for
> some possible youtube teachings from him and saw nothing
> as yet.
>
> I suppose I am asking, what evidence does on have as to
> his being born again and teaching that to others?
Does not the "Spirit" within you testify?
> some possible youtube teachings from him and saw nothing
> as yet.
>
> I suppose I am asking, what evidence does on have as to
> his being born again and teaching that to others?
Luk 9:49 And John answered and said, Master, we saw one
casting out demons in thy name; and we forbade him, because
he followeth not with us. 50 But Jesus said unto him, Forbid
him not: for he that is not against you is for you.
Up from the Abyss
May 30, 2013, 6:44:49 PM5/30/13
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"Pete" wrote:
> iqnews wrote:
> >
> > Remember, that this is Messianic music.
> >
> > They use English mixed with Hebrew. Listen for it.
>
> >
> > Remember, that this is Messianic music.
> >
> > They use English mixed with Hebrew. Listen for it.
>
> I guess I am missing the point of a Messianic. I understood
> that we Jew and Gentile are one in the Lord, brothers and
> grafted into the same tree.
Indeed. And a "Messianic" is one who upholds all the law
that is within their power / ability to do.
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