DIET:The 2- DIGIT APPROACH, comments by His Holiness...
GreatSageItchy
In article <4b44ef62$0$11054$1c46...@news.club.cc.cmu.edu>,
<ver...@gefinden.com> wrote:
> Truth:
>
> The two pound diet,aka 2pd etc. is quack science. It has flaws of both
> fact and logic. It was invented to fit a preexisting agenda and does
> not flow from evidence based on research. The diet inventor has many
> times been appraised of his flaws but clings to them for reasons other
> then science or valid medical practice
Call this QUACK DIET what it really is: The 2-digit Diet. A "diet" for
people of LOW INTELLIGENCE and LOW JUDJEMENT. A "Diet" for the DUMBEST
of the STUPID people who are unable to understand anything more
complicated than ""EAT 2 POUNDS, MORON".
The 2-DIGIT DIET does offer the moron the ability to say he/she is on a
"diet", just like smart people, however.
No one denies that the typical American diet is GARBAGE, and shouldn't
even be fed to PIGS. But the "Moron" diet is not the answer.
Especially for a TOTAL EGOIST like CHUNG. It will make him worse.
Unless you have REAL WISDOM, and UNDERSTANDING of how the universe
works, all your ideas, theories, and practices, will FAIL, and many
will produce the opposite of what you expected. You will even kill
people with your foolishness, and arrogant "certainty" that "YOU KNOW".
The REAL TRUTH is YOU DON"T KNOW.
KNOBODY KNOWS.
GreatSageItchy
<GreatSa...@null.com> wrote:
You can include ALL of MODERN MEDICINE in this rant.
While there may be many well-meaning people in the medical profession,
there is very little REAL WISDOM, and far too much certatnty that
SCIENCE will find the answers.
So far, the best that MODERN MEDICINE can come with is symtomatic
treatments, that make the symptoms go away, but cure NOTHING. DRUGS are
the answer to almost every medical problem. There is NO DIFFERENCE
between this kind of medicine and WITCHCRAFT. In fact, WHICHCRAFT and
"Old Wives Tales" provided the clues that PHARMA companies used to
develop many drugs. So the original ideas may have been based on REAL
WISDOM and understanding of how the universe works, but that wisdom is
now totally gone. Just like the GREAT RELIGIONS, which also began with
real wisdom, and have now degenerated into the 2-digit bullshit that
"so-called" Christians bloviate about with such arrogant certainty in
these groups.
GreatSageItchy
There was once real wisdom, now there is Science and Intellectual
knowledge, neither of which will ever lead mankind to health, or real
happiness.
Billions have been spent to find cures for Cancer, and Heart disease,
with very little success. Almost NO success, really, since the "cures"
are as bad or worse than the disease. Chemotherapy, for example,
injects the patient with "poison" strong enough to kill cancer cells,
but not strong enough to kill the stronger body cells. The patient is
poisened none the less, with damage done throughout the body.
This kind of treatment is extremely violent, and illustrates the total
lack of any understanding about who we are and how we came to be.
This is why Science and Medidine will never find the cures they seek,
if they even care, since there are vast sums of money to be tapped, and
an endless supply of humans to experiment on, while draining their bank
accounts.
Thommadura
>
> There was once real wisdom, now there is Science and Intellectual
> knowledge, neither of which will ever lead mankind to health, or real
> happiness.
>
> Billions have been spent to find cures for Cancer, and Heart disease,
> with very little success. Almost NO success, really, since the "cures"
> are as bad or worse than the disease. Chemotherapy, for example,
> injects the patient with "poison" strong enough to kill cancer cells,
> but not strong enough to kill the stronger body cells. The patient is
> poisened none the less, with damage done throughout the body.
> This kind of treatment is extremely violent, and illustrates the total
> lack of any understanding about who we are and how we came to be.
That is an interesting claim -
What is it YOU CAN PROVE that is different from what medicine knows?
THe fact is - there are lots of people on the earth who are alive
because of those treatments - which become less and less "poisonous" as
they evolve over time. ANd using cancer as an example fails to point out
the lack of same for the vaccines for childhood diseases and for polio -
among lots of other treatments.
> This is why Science and Medidine will never find the cures they seek,
> if they even care, since there are vast sums of money to be tapped, and
> an endless supply of humans to experiment on, while draining their bank
> accounts.
Sorry - but I am an example of medicine finding a cure - or a way to
prevent disease. THere are literally MILLIONS of us. In fact - you
likely did not have some childhood diseases because of vaccines that
have all but eliminated them.
WE have vaccines that have all but eliminated certain diseases in
populations that actually take the vaccines. And they do not DRAIN bank
accounts at the same rate that actually having those diseases do.
Science and medicine do find cure they seek - and while money is a
factor in that - no one can claim that money is not the PRIME motivation
of religion and not establish him/herself as a liar at the same time.
GreatSageItchy
<tomm...@optonline.net> wrote:
> On 1/6/2010 8:27 PM, GreatSageItchy wrote:
> >
> > There was once real wisdom, now there is Science and Intellectual
> > knowledge, neither of which will ever lead mankind to health, or real
> > happiness.
> >
> > Billions have been spent to find cures for Cancer, and Heart disease,
> > with very little success. Almost NO success, really, since the "cures"
> > are as bad or worse than the disease. Chemotherapy, for example,
> > injects the patient with "poison" strong enough to kill cancer cells,
> > but not strong enough to kill the stronger body cells. The patient is
> > poisened none the less, with damage done throughout the body.
> > This kind of treatment is extremely violent, and illustrates the total
> > lack of any understanding about who we are and how we came to be.
>
>
> That is an interesting claim -
>
> What is it YOU CAN PROVE that is different from what medicine knows?
Prove???
Gee, do I have to PROVE this shit right here in this NG??
I'm still waiting for you to p\PROVE your science BULLSHIT! What about
it, Tommy?
PROVE there is NO GOD!
PROVE this universe began with a bang.
PROVE that GRAVITY causes an apple to all from a tree.
PROVE that the speed of light is constant.
All of these things will eventually be found to be BULLSHIT.
You know NOTHING. Science knows NOTHING.
> THe fact is - there are lots of people on the earth who are alive
> because of those treatments - which become less and less "poisonous" as
> they evolve over time. ANd using cancer as an example fails to point out
> the lack of same for the vaccines for childhood diseases and for polio -
> among lots of other treatments.
I will answer this later - Have to go now...
Thommadura
> In article<4b45584c$0$31278$607e...@cv.net>, Thommadura
> <tomm...@optonline.net> wrote:
>
>> On 1/6/2010 8:27 PM, GreatSageItchy wrote:
>>>
>>> There was once real wisdom, now there is Science and Intellectual
>>> knowledge, neither of which will ever lead mankind to health, or real
>>> happiness.
>>>
>>> Billions have been spent to find cures for Cancer, and Heart disease,
>>> with very little success. Almost NO success, really, since the "cures"
>>> are as bad or worse than the disease. Chemotherapy, for example,
>>> injects the patient with "poison" strong enough to kill cancer cells,
>>> but not strong enough to kill the stronger body cells. The patient is
>>> poisened none the less, with damage done throughout the body.
>>> This kind of treatment is extremely violent, and illustrates the total
>>> lack of any understanding about who we are and how we came to be.
>>
>>
>> That is an interesting claim -
>>
>> What is it YOU CAN PROVE that is different from what medicine knows?
> Prove???
> Gee, do I have to PROVE this shit right here in this NG??
YOU are the one who made the claim - GS - so either support it with
proof or we can dismiss it as nonsense
However while theist post all sort of things - when asked to support
their statements with proof - they never do - they do one or more of
three things - as you have
1 - They attack the question
2 - They attack the questioner
3 - They change the subject - as you are doing
However - I accept your lack of support as PROOF you know nothing
> I'm still waiting for you to p\PROVE your science BULLSHIT! What about
> it, Tommy?
Sorry - but I have stated that evolution is a theory
I am happy with the statement that I do not know without making up
supernatural fictional nonsense
Why aren't YYOU
> PROVE there is NO GOD!
YOu are the one making claims that you KNOW what a god is
I will take that as an admission that YOU know nothing
> PROVE this universe began with a bang.
Sorry - but the theory of the big bang is not meant to explain the
beginning of the universe - it actually implies it existed BEFORE it
exploded.
> PROVE that GRAVITY causes an apple to all from a tree.
Newton already did that one - even an idiot would not ask this one
GreatSageItchy
<tomm...@optonline.net> wrote:
I have already stated that I believe this THEORY is BULLSHIT. Just
because the MATH works, does not mean the theory is correct.
The THEORY of GRAVITY is WRONG.
The THEORY of RELATIVITY is BS.
The BIG BANG THEORY is BS
String Theory is BS
These, along with many other sacred writings of SCIENCE will be
declared to be BULLSHIT within the next 50 years, as the "WONDERS of
MODERN SCIENCE" continue to lead mankind to even greatrt heights of
SICKNESS and DEATH,
Thommadura
YOU BELIEVE - and what are YOUR credentials that support your knowledge
of the theories of gravity.
Oh - by definition - Gravity MEANS : (Websters online)
1.a. The natural force of attraction exerted by a celestial body, such
as Earth, upon objects at or near its surface, tending to draw them
toward the center of the body.
So - it is NOT a theory anymore
Just
> because the MATH works, does not mean the theory is correct.
>
> The THEORY of GRAVITY is WRONG.
> The THEORY of RELATIVITY is BS.
> The BIG BANG THEORY is BS
> String Theory is BS
I note you present NO PROOF of your allegations
And therefore I dismiss them - based on the lack of data to support your
statement
When you present credentials and provable - testable and verifiable data
that supports you statement - I will consider this - but to date - no
such data exists.
> These, along with many other sacred writings of SCIENCE will be
> declared to be BULLSHIT within the next 50 years, as the "WONDERS of
> MODERN SCIENCE" continue to lead mankind to even greatrt heights of
> SICKNESS and DEATH,
THe WONDERS of science has led to longer and more productive lives
We are able to do things to help people through medicine and science
that could only be dreamed about years ago
There are millions of people who are able to walk because of artificial
Knees - and Hips - legs - and other similar prosthesis. To date - no
amount of prayer - by anyone who asks in faith - has ever regrown a
limb on a person who lost it due to accident - war - or disease.
There are more millions of people today who NEVER got POLIO because of
the vaccine that makes them immune - developed by science. However -
before the vaccine - no amount of prayer ever cured anyone of polio.
THere are more millions who never died from infection due to the
development of anti-biotics - by medicine and science.
However - over the centuries - theists have replaced the prior Bullshit
scripture with new - equally unprovable scripture- claiming all sorts of
things about god - and what they have said - and what they can do -
without a single piece of testable and verifiable evidence that a god
even exists.
And since a theory cannot use a god as part of it - until a god is
proven to exist - the statements of religion remain to be nothing more
than deluded speculation - nothing more.
GreatSageItchy
<tomm...@optonline.net> wrote:
> >>> PROVE that GRAVITY causes an apple to all from a tree.
> >>
> >> Newton already did that one - even an idiot would not ask this one
> > I have already stated that I believe this THEORY is BULLSHIT.
>
> YOU BELIEVE - and what are YOUR credentials that support your knowledge
> of the theories of gravity.
credentials: Great Sage Itchy - Enlightened Great Sage, Greater than
Heaven and God combined!
> Oh - by definition - Gravity MEANS : (Websters online)
> 1.a. The natural force of attraction exerted by a celestial body, such
> as Earth, upon objects at or near its surface, tending to draw them
> toward the center of the body.
>
> So - it is NOT a theory anymore
Please, give us a break! Just because Websters has a definition,
doesn't mean it's FACT, rather than THEORY!
Think about it! IS IT THE ONLY POSSIBLE EXPLANATION!
Could a FORCE from space towards the center produce thw same MATH.
How about a forse from SPACE AND and outward force from EARTH, the
force from space being stronger.
For a clue: Study WAVES on the ocean. Note the HEIGHT VERSUS the
DISTANCE BETWEEN WAVES. The UNIVERSE is giving you a BIG CLUE here!
Thommadura
> In article<4b474d9f$0$31260$607e...@cv.net>, Thommadura
> <tomm...@optonline.net> wrote:
>
>>>>> PROVE that GRAVITY causes an apple to all from a tree.
>>>>
>>>> Newton already did that one - even an idiot would not ask this one
>>> I have already stated that I believe this THEORY is BULLSHIT.
>>
>> YOU BELIEVE - and what are YOUR credentials that support your knowledge
>> of the theories of gravity.
>
> credentials: Great Sage Itchy - Enlightened Great Sage, Greater than
> Heaven and God combined!
I will accept that as proof you are NON-educated and have no valuable
experience in the things you talk about
Thank you
>
>> Oh - by definition - Gravity MEANS : (Websters online)
>> 1.a. The natural force of attraction exerted by a celestial body, such
>> as Earth, upon objects at or near its surface, tending to draw them
>> toward the center of the body.
>>
>> So - it is NOT a theory anymore
Again - posted things for which he presented NO supporting proof and
dismissed
>>
>> I note you present NO PROOF of your allegations
>> And therefore I dismiss them - based on the lack of data to support your
>> statement
>>
>> When you present credentials and provable - testable and verifiable data
>> that supports you statement - I will consider this - but to date - no
>> such data exists.
>>
>>
>>
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GreatSageItchy
<tomm...@optonline.net> wrote:
> > credentials: Great Sage Itchy - Enlightened Great Sage, Greater than
> > Heaven and God combined!
>
>
> I will accept that as proof you are NON-educated and have no valuable
> experience in the things you talk about
>
> Thank you
What's the problem. Thom? Are those Credentials not good enough for a
TRUE WORSHIPPER in the POWER and GLORY of MODERN SCIENCE!
Modern Science is EGOTISM for NERDS!
May it make you knowledgeable and powerful, NERD!
Thommadura
No - but your comments are clearly showing your lack of understanding of
the subjects you question
If you actually educated yourself (you could take a few courses) - you
would find that your statements are not logical
For example - you attacked the wrong thing when you attacked the
definition of gravity - as well as gave an incorrect example
Gravity does not CAUSE an apple to fall from a tree - something has to
separate the apple from the tree for that to happen. Once the apple is
separated - it takes no rocket scientist to see that it falls to the earth
We define the force that causes the apple to fall - gravity. That there
is a force that does it is TRUE.
YOU can suggest that the theory of what that force is - is incorrect -
and could be explained differently - but by definition - we still define
the WORD that describes the force as gravity - and it clearly DOES exist.
As far as the rest of your post - I do not even suggest that I have all
the answers - but I am willing to admit that - and I do not have to
make up stories about supernatural events - with all powerful beings
(yes - so far about 28 million of them) - without a single piece of
supporting proof.
However - even a simply person like yourself - has managed to learn
things about our solar system - and our universe - that clearly
establish that the stories of creation are not true on a lot of things.
IF these stories were "dictated" by an all knowing god - to an inspired
writer - and that god actually knew what happened - there is NO reason
why there should be ANY deviation to the legends and myth that the
humans of that time held that were wrong. ALl of the facts should be
correct.
Yet - you do not attack religion - with obvious FACTs that we know are
wrong - in any way. Certainly I would expect YOU to attack religion in
the same manner you attack every other theory. THat you do not - only
points out your lack of consistency.
Thommadura
Actually - without modern science - you would not have MOST of your
lifestyle.
I am not just talking about the internet and the computer - neither of
which would exist without science - I am talking about your everyday
necessities.
Without science you would be washing yourself and your clothes at
river's edge without soap (even lye soap was invented by science) - you
would be growing and killing your own food - everyday - since there
would be no supermarkets - or markets - or refrigeration. Of course -
you would not have a house or a car or a telephone - or a TV as well.
Even your clothes would require you to have sheep or grow cotton (No
trucks or automated textile manufacturing) - of course - you would need
even to make your own needles for sewing too.`
ANd you would need fires for light - since there would be no electric
generation either. And no running water or plumbing (engineers are
scientists too). Of course - no clocks or timers as well.
THere would be no deodorants - so you would smell as well too.
ANd that sums up your argument against science - it stinks!
GreatSageItchy
<tomm...@optonline.net> wrote:
> On 1/8/2010 6:10 PM, GreatSageItchy wrote:
> > In article<4b47b4bd$0$31264$607e...@cv.net>, Thommadura
> > <tomm...@optonline.net> wrote:
> >
> >>> credentials: Great Sage Itchy - Enlightened Great Sage, Greater than
> >>> Heaven and God combined!
> >>
> >>
> >> I will accept that as proof you are NON-educated and have no valuable
> >> experience in the things you talk about
> >>
> >> Thank you
> > What's the problem. Thom? Are those Credentials not good enough for a
> > TRUE WORSHIPPER in the POWER and GLORY of MODERN SCIENCE!
> > Modern Science is EGOTISM for NERDS!
> > May it make you knowledgeable and powerful,
>
> No - but your comments are clearly showing your lack of understanding of
> the subjects you question
Oh!!
> If you actually educated yourself (you could take a few courses) - you
A little while back you complained about UseNet posters attacking the
person, rather than the arguments. Now here you are DOING THE SAME
THING.
> would find that your statements are not logical
>
> For example - you attacked the wrong thing when you attacked the
> definition of gravity - as well as gave an incorrect example
>
I DID NOT ATTACK THE DEFINITION - I ATTACK THE THEORY, I.E. THE "WHY",
AND "HOW".
> Gravity does not CAUSE an apple to fall from a tree - something has to
> separate the apple from the tree for that to happen. Once the apple is
> separated - it takes no rocket scientist to see that it falls to the earth
In this context, that's like arguing that Guns don't kill people,
bullets kill people.
> We define the force that causes the apple to fall - gravity. That there
> is a force that does it is TRUE.
Did I Deny that an apple will fall? Please make 3-digit arguments.
> YOU can suggest that the theory of what that force is - is incorrect -
> and could be explained differently - but by definition - we still define
> the WORD that describes the force as gravity - and it clearly DOES exist.
I don't care what word you use, it's the THEORY I have a problem with.
>
>
> As far as the rest of your post - I do not even suggest that I have all
> the answers - but I am willing to admit that - and I do not have to
> make up stories about supernatural events - with all powerful beings
> (yes - so far about 28 million of them) - without a single piece of
> supporting proof.
I don't either! If I say I've seen GOD, then I have. I don't make up
stuff. And I AM a Scientist.