A Message from Dr. Margaret Singer & John Knapp
John M. Knapp
Now I can share with you what I have been working on so hard since last
November.
Together with Dr. Margaret Thaler Singer, the board of directors, board of
advisors, and the work of a handful of volunteers, we have founded the
Singer Foundation -- a new human rights & consumer protection
organization, preserving psychological freedoms.
The Singer Foundation is based on one powerful idea: Information is
Freedom. Given access to a full range of information, people can make the
best choices for themselves.
And we have been able to gather an amazing group of people around this
simple program: our board includes James Randi, Dr. Barry Markovsky, Dr.
Laura Nader, Dr. Paul Martin, and more -- with many more to national
figures to come.
For those of you who have web access, go check out http://singer.org and
let me know what you think.
Many of you have written me volunteering time, documents, and funds to
TranceNet. Although TranceNet is not yet part of the Singer Foundation,
our lawyers are working on folding the two organizations together. If
you've found the work that I've done useful, I'd ask that you consider
putting your efforts into the Singer Foundation.
And for right now, the biggest help you can give us is to simply get the
word out. Share our web, email, and toll-free phone with anyone you know
might have a sincere interest in this new organization.
I won't waste your time with more fluff now. Go check out the site and let
me know what you think.
I've appended a note from Dr. Singer below, requesting your help.
John M. Knapp
Executive Director,
The Singer Foundation
P.S. (If you're unsure of who Dr. Singer is, ask around on this list, or
read her full cv beginning at http://singer.org/abt/bio.html)
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Dear Colleague,
I'd like to ask your help.
You may know my efforts in the last five decades to fight for psychological
freedoms. (I've included a brief bio below.)
I'm pleased to announce that a group of well-wishers have founded the
Margaret Thaler Singer Foundation, Inc. -- a tax-exempt California
nonprofit human rights and consumer protection organization. (Our mission
statement is below.)
Here's my request:
We will are announcing our Foundation to the public today, March 29,
1996. Would you consider adding one of these lines of HTML
code to your home page on today?
Banner: <HR SIZE=4><CENTER><A HREF="http://www.singer.org">
<IMG SRC="http://www.singer.org/GIF/button2.GIF"
ALT="[INFORMATION IS FREEDOM]"
WIDTH=468 HEIGHT=60 BORDER=1 align="center">
</A></CENTER><HR SIZE=4>
Small Banner: <A HREF="http://www.singer.org">
<IMG SRC="http://www.singer.org/GIF/button1.GIF"
ALT="[INFORMATION IS FREEDOM]"
WIDTH=234 HEIGHT=60 BORDER=1 align="center"></A>
This will place a small public service announcement on your web page
regarding the Singer Foundation. In return, we will be pleased to place a
link to your site on our "Supporters Page."
If you have technical questions, would like more information about the
Singer Foundation, or know of someone else who would have a sincere
interest in this notice, please email our executive director at
sin...@singer.org.
Thank you.
Dr. Margaret Thaler Singer
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MISSION STATEMENT
The Margaret Thaler Singer Foundation champions psychological freedoms.
Our weapons are the free flow of information and open discussion. We
educate the public to recognize exploitative influence techniques. We
publish research on psychological and social manipulation practiced by
individuals, groups, corporations, and governments. We aid survivors of
such deception in their triumph over coercion and passage toward
independent life. Most importantly, we preserve their hard-won wisdom so
that future generations may learn not to repeat the tragedies of the past.
ABOUT DR. MARGARET SINGER
The Foundation celebrates Dr. Singer's five-decade fight for
psychological freedoms. A fight that includes working with brainwashed
Korean War soldiers. Counseling Patty Hearst after the SLA. Co-authoring
a major theory on family communications breakdown and its role in
schizophrenia. Comforting Jonestown massacre survivors. Aiding 3,000
cult members and their families. Standing witness against sexual abuse --
whether by clergy, employers, or members of her own profession.
A clinician, researcher, and educator, Dr. Singer was the first woman and
first clinical psychologist elected president of the American
Psychosomatic Society. She has been honored by the American Psychiatric
Association, American College of Psychiatrists, Mental Health
Association, American Association for Marriage and Family Therapy,
National Institute of Mental Health, American Family Therapy Association,
and many others. She is a professor emeritus in psychology of the
University of California, Berkeley.
The author of 100 journal articles, Dr. Singer actively speaks to the
media, consults, and offers expert testimony on coercive persuasion. She
has served on national boards, including President Ford's Biomedical
Research Panel, American Psychological Association, American Board of
Forensic Examiners, and National Academy of Sciences (psychological effects,
chemical and biological warfare). Most recently, Family Process Journal
honored her outstanding contributions to family therapy, and she received
the Society for Clinical and Experimental Hypnosis Aware for best clinical
paper of 1994.
Dr. Singer has co-authored two popular books on psychological freedom,
Cults in Our Midst and Crazy Therapies. She lives in Berkeley with her
husband, Jay, a physicist and major contributor to the development
of magnetic resonance imaging (MRI). She is the mother of two and the
grandmother of two.
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Lawson English
: Finally, it's March 29.
: ------
: Dear Colleague,
: Here's my request:
: Thank you.
: Dr. Margaret Thaler Singer
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John M. Knapp
> In article <jmknapp-2903...@192.0.2.1>, jmk...@crl.com
> (John M. Knapp) wrote:
>
<snip>
> He has declared his support for Andrew Skolnick, who some time
> ago on alt.m.t falsely reported that a woman who appeared on the
> Donahue show, and later died of cancer, claimed on the program to
> have been cured of cancer by Maharishi Ayur-Veda treatments. The
> transcript of this woman's appearance has been posted several
> times here showing Skolnick's report to be untrue, although
> Skolnick has continued to stonewall on the matter, and "Honest"
> John has continued to defend Skolnick's integrity.
>
> (Solnick has publicly identified James Randi, another rabid
> anti-TMer, as his mentor. James Randi is also on the Singer
> Foundation board of directors, along with Dr. Barry Markovsky.)
>
Among the many distortions and outright untruths of your post, Judy, one
peculiar thing caught my eye.
Don't you realize that Andrew Skolnick is also on the Singer Board?
J
--
John M. Knapp
Executive Director,
The Singer Foundation
http://www.singer.org/ Toll-Free: 888.746-4371 (888.SINGER.1)
"INFORMATION IS FREEDOM"
John M. Knapp
> In article <jmknapp-2903...@192.0.2.1>, jmk...@crl.com
> (John M. Knapp) wrote:
>
> <snip>
<snip>
> He has declared his support for Andrew Skolnick, who some time
> ago on alt.m.t falsely reported that a woman who appeared on the
> Donahue show, and later died of cancer, claimed on the program to
> have been cured of cancer by Maharishi Ayur-Veda treatments. The
> transcript of this woman's appearance has been posted several
> times here showing Skolnick's report to be untrue, although
> Skolnick has continued to stonewall on the matter, and "Honest"
> John has continued to defend Skolnick's integrity.
We are proud to have award-winning science medicine journalist Andrew
Skolnick on our board as well. For those interested our current board is
listed at http://www.singer.org/abt/board.html.
Along with pix.
J
--
John M. Knapp
Executive Director,
The Singer Foundation
Catraoine OMaolain
>For those interested our current board is
> listed at http://www.singer.org/abt/board.html.
Both James Randi and Margaret Singer are on the Scientific and
Professional Board of the False Memory Syndrome Foundation. Is
there any connection between the FMSF and the Singer Foundation?
Katie
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Judy Stein
> In article <2H6Nnq2B...@cnct.com>, jst...@cnct.com wrote:
>
> > In article <jmknapp-2903...@192.0.2.1>, jmk...@crl.com
> > (John M. Knapp) wrote:
> >
<snip>
> > He has declared his support for Andrew Skolnick, who some time
> > ago on alt.m.t falsely reported that a woman who appeared on the
> > Donahue show, and later died of cancer, claimed on the program to
> > have been cured of cancer by Maharishi Ayur-Veda treatments. The
> > transcript of this woman's appearance has been posted several
> > times here showing Skolnick's report to be untrue, although
> > Skolnick has continued to stonewall on the matter, and "Honest"
> > John has continued to defend Skolnick's integrity.
>
> We are proud to have award-winning science medicine journalist Andrew
> Skolnick on our board as well.
That would be award-winning science medicine journalist Andrew
Skolnick, who falsely reported on alt.m.t that a woman who
appeared on the Donahue show, and later died of cancer, claimed
on the program to have been cured of cancer by Maharish Ayur-Veda
treatments?
The award-winning science medicine journalist who, confronted
with the transcript of her remarks showing she had not said what
he reported, continued to stonewall and to accuse *me* of lying
about what she really had said?
The award-winning science medicine journalist who let slip that
he hadn't just heard about it from someone else but actually
himself had a copy of the tape, inadvertently confirming that his
falsehood was deliberate?
*That* Andrew Skolnick?
I would have been surprised if he weren't on the board. I just
wanted to make absolutely sure we were talking about the same
Andrew Skolnick.
> John M. Knapp
> Executive Director,
> The Singer Foundation
> http://www.singer.org/ Toll-Free: 888.746-4371 (888.SINGER.1)
> "INFORMATION IS FREEDOM"
Information, we may now confidently assume, of the quality of
award-winning science medicine journalist Andrew Skolnick's false
statements about what a woman, now dead and unable to defend
herself, said on the Donahue show.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
+ Judy Stein * The Author's Friend * jst...@cnct.com +
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Lawson English
I suspect that the list will lead like a Who's WHo of people that have a
grudge against TM for some reason...
John M. Knapp <jmk...@crl.com> wrote:
: In article <2H6Nnq2B...@cnct.com>, jst...@cnct.com wrote:
: > In article <jmknapp-2903...@192.0.2.1>, jmk...@crl.com
: > (John M. Knapp) wrote:
: >
: > <snip>
: <snip>
:
: > He has declared his support for Andrew Skolnick, who some time
: > ago on alt.m.t falsely reported that a woman who appeared on the
: > Donahue show, and later died of cancer, claimed on the program to
: > have been cured of cancer by Maharishi Ayur-Veda treatments. The
: > transcript of this woman's appearance has been posted several
: > times here showing Skolnick's report to be untrue, although
: > Skolnick has continued to stonewall on the matter, and "Honest"
: > John has continued to defend Skolnick's integrity.
: We are proud to have award-winning science medicine journalist Andrew
: Skolnick on our board as well. For those interested our current board is
: listed at http://www.singer.org/abt/board.html.
: Along with pix.
: J
: --
: John M. Knapp
: Executive Director,
: The Singer Foundation
: http://www.singer.org/ Toll-Free: 888.746-4371 (888.SINGER.1)
: "INFORMATION IS FREEDOM"
--
Lawson English
: In article <jmknapp-3103...@192.0.2.1>,
: > In article <2H6Nnq2B...@cnct.com>, jst...@cnct.com wrote:
: >
: > > In article <jmknapp-2903...@192.0.2.1>, jmk...@crl.com
: > > (John M. Knapp) wrote:
: > >
: <snip>
: > > He has declared his support for Andrew Skolnick, who some time
: > > ago on alt.m.t falsely reported that a woman who appeared on the
: > > Donahue show, and later died of cancer, claimed on the program to
: > > have been cured of cancer by Maharishi Ayur-Veda treatments. The
: > > transcript of this woman's appearance has been posted several
: > > times here showing Skolnick's report to be untrue, although
: > > Skolnick has continued to stonewall on the matter, and "Honest"
: > > John has continued to defend Skolnick's integrity.
: >
: > We are proud to have award-winning science medicine journalist Andrew
: > Skolnick on our board as well.
: That would be award-winning science medicine journalist Andrew
: Skolnick, who falsely reported on alt.m.t that a woman who
: appeared on the Donahue show, and later died of cancer, claimed
: on the program to have been cured of cancer by Maharish Ayur-Veda
: treatments?
: The award-winning science medicine journalist who, confronted
: with the transcript of her remarks showing she had not said what
: he reported, continued to stonewall and to accuse *me* of lying
: about what she really had said?
: The award-winning science medicine journalist who let slip that
: he hadn't just heard about it from someone else but actually
: himself had a copy of the tape, inadvertently confirming that his
: falsehood was deliberate?
: *That* Andrew Skolnick?
: I would have been surprised if he weren't on the board. I just
: wanted to make absolutely sure we were talking about the same
: Andrew Skolnick.
: > John M. Knapp
: > Executive Director,
: > The Singer Foundation
: > http://www.singer.org/ Toll-Free: 888.746-4371 (888.SINGER.1)
: > "INFORMATION IS FREEDOM"
: Information, we may now confidently assume, of the quality of
: award-winning science medicine journalist Andrew Skolnick's false
: statements about what a woman, now dead and unable to defend
: herself, said on the Donahue show.
: ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
: + Judy Stein * The Author's Friend * jst...@cnct.com +
: ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
--
John M. Knapp
> In article <jmknapp-3103...@192.0.2.1>,
> jmk...@crl.com (John M. Knapp) wrote:
>
> > In article <2H6Nnq2B...@cnct.com>, jst...@cnct.com wrote:
> >
> > > In article <jmknapp-2903...@192.0.2.1>, jmk...@crl.com
> > > (John M. Knapp) wrote:
<snip>
> > We are proud to have award-winning science medicine journalist Andrew
> > Skolnick on our board as well.
>
> That would be award-winning science medicine journalist Andrew
> Skolnick, who falsely reported on alt.m.t that a woman who
> appeared on the Donahue show, and later died of cancer, claimed
> on the program to have been cured of cancer by Maharish Ayur-Veda
> treatments?
>
> The award-winning science medicine journalist who, confronted
> with the transcript of her remarks showing she had not said what
> he reported, continued to stonewall and to accuse *me* of lying
> about what she really had said?
>
> The award-winning science medicine journalist who let slip that
> he hadn't just heard about it from someone else but actually
> himself had a copy of the tape, inadvertently confirming that his
> falsehood was deliberate?
>
> *That* Andrew Skolnick?
Naw.
We must be talking about two different fellows. One has an extraordinary
career in science medicine journalism, sits on any number of national
boards, and is currently on sabatical in China, teaching journalism as a
guest of the Chinese government. We at the Singer Foundation were tickeled
pink when this respected journalist accepted a position on our advisory
board (after some months of pleading).
The other fellow, the one you mention, is purely a figment of your imagination.
And the "facts" that you claim above are simply more of your delusional
exegesis.
Except, I believe he did accuse you of lying. And rightly so.
J
--
John M. Knapp
Executive Director,
The Singer Foundation
Catraoine OMaolain
Catraoine OMaolain (az...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) writes:
> John M. Knapp (jmk...@crl.com) writes:
>
>>For those interested our current board is
>> listed at http://www.singer.org/abt/board.html.
>
> Both James Randi and Margaret Singer are on the Scientific and
> Professional Board of the False Memory Syndrome Foundation. Is
> there any connection between the FMSF and the Singer Foundation?
>
> Katie
>
> --
>
--
John M. Knapp
<eng...@primenet.com> wrote:
> WHY am I not surprised?
>
> I suspect that the list will lead like a Who's WHo of people that have a
> grudge against TM for some reason...
>
>
Go visit our board page, Lawson, at http://www.singer.org/abt/board.html.
The study of "cults" will be a fraction of the Singer Foundation's
concern. Concern with TM itself will be a rather small subset of that.
From the TM end of the telescope, anybody with any criticism of the TM
movement or the Maharishi must loom large.
From the other end, TM is a tiny blot on the horizon.
J
--
John M. Knapp
Executive Director,
The Singer Foundation
Judy Stein
> In article <-13Onq2Bb...@cnct.com>, jst...@cnct.com wrote:
>
> > In article <jmknapp-3103...@192.0.2.1>,
> > jmk...@crl.com (John M. Knapp) wrote:
> >
> > > In article <2H6Nnq2B...@cnct.com>, jst...@cnct.com wrote:
> > >
> > > > In article <jmknapp-2903...@192.0.2.1>, jmk...@crl.com
> > > > (John M. Knapp) wrote:
> <snip>
> > > We are proud to have award-winning science medicine journalist Andrew
> > > Skolnick on our board as well.
> >
> > That would be award-winning science medicine journalist Andrew
> > Skolnick, who falsely reported on alt.m.t that a woman who
> > appeared on the Donahue show, and later died of cancer, claimed
> > on the program to have been cured of cancer by Maharish Ayur-Veda
> > treatments?
> >
> > The award-winning science medicine journalist who, confronted
> > with the transcript of her remarks showing she had not said what
> > he reported, continued to stonewall and to accuse *me* of lying
> > about what she really had said?
> >
> > The award-winning science medicine journalist who let slip that
> > he hadn't just heard about it from someone else but actually
> > himself had a copy of the tape, inadvertently confirming that his
> > falsehood was deliberate?
<snip>
>
> We must be talking about two different fellows. One has an extraordinary
> career in science medicine journalism, sits on any number of national
> boards, and is currently on sabatical in China, teaching journalism as a
> guest of the Chinese government. We at the Singer Foundation were tickeled
> pink when this respected journalist accepted a position on our advisory
> board (after some months of pleading).
Yep, that's the same Andrew Skolnick I'm talking about, the one
"Honest" John knows deliberately posted a blatant falsehood about
a dead woman and then accused me of lying when I called him on it.
> The other fellow, the one you mention, is purely a figment of
> your imagination.
I only wish he were.
> And the "facts" that you claim above are simply more of your delusional
> exegesis.
Nope. As you know, the facts I gave are completely accurate; I
have documented them before several times on this newsgroup and
will be happy to do so again, including Skolnick's attempts to
stonewall after he was confronted with the transcript.
For those who weren't around, a brief recap: Skolnick said the
woman had claimed to have been "cured" of cancer by Maharishi
Ayur-Veda.
The *facts* are, as can be seen from the transcript, that the
woman said explicitly that her cancer was in *remission*, meaning
it could no longer be detected in her body, but could come back
at any time; and she explicitly gave the credit for her remission
to the medical treatment she had received, including mastectomy,
the surgical removal of cancerous material from her lung, and a
course of chemotherapy. She gave Maharishi Ayur-Veda credit only
for mitigating the side effects of the chemotherapy and reducing
her stress levels throughout her ordeal.
The difference between "cured" and "remission" is significant
since the woman later died of a recurrence of the cancer.
Skolnick hoped to convey the impression that the woman had died
because of a delusion that she had been cured of her cancer by
Maharishi Ayur-Veda and therefore did not avail herself of
standard medical treatment. He crowed, in fact, about having a
copy of her death certificate in his possession and offered to
send copies to anyone who wanted to see it.
In fact, she went through *all* the recommended medical
treatments, using Maharishi Ayur-Veda only as an adjunct; in
fact, she knew she could not consider herself "cured" but only in
remission.
Andrew, as a medical journalist, is well aware of the distinction
between "cured" and "remission." He was well aware she had used
the latter term rather than the former, because he admitted
having a tape of the broadcast. But he made the explicit point
that medical professionals do not use the term "cured" until the
patient has been free of all observable signs of cancer for five
years. Prior to that point, the appropriate medical term is "in
remission"--the precise term the woman used.
Yet Andrew repeatedly insisted, even after the transcript was
posted, that she had claimed to have been cured, and called me a
liar for pointing out that the facts were otherwise.
He never addressed the fact that she had given the credit for the
remission (not the cure) to the chemotherapy and other medical
treatment, rather than, as he had claimed, having given the
credit for the "cure" to Maharishi Ayur-Veda.
Again, this is a clear-cut, open-and-shut, explicit case of
Andrew Skolnick attempting to perpetrate on readers of alt.m.t
something he knew to be a falsehood. Complete documentation,
including the full transcript of her remarks on the Donahue show
(I also happen to own a copy of the tape), is available if anyone
is interested.
"Honest" John is very well aware of the truth of everything I've
said above.
> Except, I believe he did accuse you of lying. And rightly so.
And therefore, "Honest" John's statement above is a deliberate
lie.
Guru Busters
We were going to have her in my court case but getting people from out of
state is extremely expensive.
What about the controversy around her?
Catraoine OMaolain (az...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) wrote:
: Juat reposting this in case John missed it first time around.
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Due to our work in exposing corrupt spiritual teachers we have been threatened
with the following - forged posts, forged e-mails, stalking,blatantly false accusations,
interference with livelihood. We believe intelligent, caring people will see
through these obviously hate-motivated tactics.
Lawson English
: From the TM end of the telescope, anybody with any criticism of the TM
: movement or the Maharishi must loom large.
: From the other end, TM is a tiny blot on the horizon.
: J
: --
: John M. Knapp
: Executive Director,
: The Singer Foundation
: http://www.singer.org/ Toll-Free: 888.746-4371 (888.SINGER.1)
: "INFORMATION IS FREEDOM"
This from a man who spends a good portion of his time on
alt.meditation.transcendental...
Guru Busters
due to the "false memory syndrome" and I think they should be included.
GuruBusters
John M. Knapp (jmk...@crl.com) wrote:
: In article <4jvfk2$2...@nnrp1.news.primenet.com>, Lawson English
: <eng...@primenet.com> wrote:
: > WHY am I not surprised?
: >
: > I suspect that the list will lead like a Who's WHo of people that have a
: > grudge against TM for some reason...
: >
: >
: Go visit our board page, Lawson, at http://www.singer.org/abt/board.html.
: The study of "cults" will be a fraction of the Singer Foundation's
: concern. Concern with TM itself will be a rather small subset of that.
: From the TM end of the telescope, anybody with any criticism of the TM
: movement or the Maharishi must loom large.
: From the other end, TM is a tiny blot on the horizon.
: J
: --
: John M. Knapp
: Executive Director,
: The Singer Foundation
: http://www.singer.org/ Toll-Free: 888.746-4371 (888.SINGER.1)
: "INFORMATION IS FREEDOM"
--
John M. Knapp
az...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Catraoine OMaolain) wrote:
> Juat reposting this in case John missed it first time around.
>
> Catraoine OMaolain (az...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) writes:
> > John M. Knapp (jmk...@crl.com) writes:
> >
> >>For those interested our current board is
> >> listed at http://www.singer.org/abt/board.html.
> >
> > Both James Randi and Margaret Singer are on the Scientific and
> > Professional Board of the False Memory Syndrome Foundation. Is
> > there any connection between the FMSF and the Singer Foundation?
> >
> > Katie
> >
> > --
> >
Thanks, Caroline,
I did. BTW, I haven't had too much time to check out Usenet lately, please
feel free to write me at jmk...@crl.com or call toll-free at 888.746-4371
(888.SINGER.1).
There have been various rumors appearing on the Usenet regarding
the Singer Foundation.
TranceNet is not a publication of the Singer Foundation. Although
negotiations are underway to assume the archives at
http://www.trancenet.org and make them available in a somewhat more
professional form. Neither the Singer Board, nor myself as publisher of
TranceNet, have reached an agreement as of yet.
It is true that two of our board members also serve on the FMSF. The
majority of our board members do not. What we all have in common is an
interest in preserving the human right against exploitative psychological
or social manipulation.
Without either supporting or detracting from the mission of FMSF, the
Singer Foundation will not be concerned with their issues.
Naturally we urge all people, particularly survivors of abuse, to thoroughly
familiarize themselves with any group or individual before committing
their trust to them.
We've put up much information about the Singer Foundation at
http://www.singer.org. You may also care to check out our board at
http://www.singer.org/abt/board.html.
We may not have time to contribute to this newsgroup, but we can try to
return private email.
In particular, if members of this newsgroup have questions that they would
like added to our FAQ, please let us know.
Also any members of this newsgroup who care to subscribe to our email list
should feel free to ask any penetrating questions that they care to.
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John M. Knapp
Busters) wrote:
> Is there anywhere on the Web that we can find out about Margaret Singer?
> We were going to have her in my court case but getting people from out of
> state is extremely expensive.
>
> What about the controversy around her?
>
To read about Dr. Singer's long and distinguished career, point your
browser to http://www.singer.org/abt/bio.html.
J
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az...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Catraoine OMaolain) wrote:
> Juat reposting this in case John missed it first time around.
>
> Catraoine OMaolain (az...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) writes:
> > John M. Knapp (jmk...@crl.com) writes:
> >
> >>For those interested our current board is
> >> listed at http://www.singer.org/abt/board.html.
> >
> > Both James Randi and Margaret Singer are on the Scientific and
> > Professional Board of the False Memory Syndrome Foundation. Is
> > there any connection between the FMSF and the Singer Foundation?
> >
> > Katie
> >
> > --
> >
Thanks, Caroline,
I did miss this post. BTW, I haven't had too much time to check out Usenet
J
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Guru Busters
I consider calling a Judy delusional to be sexist and in keeping with
the "hysterical woman" stereotype. I cant tell who is doing it but I have
noticed it in several posts, and I must mention it.
BanjoVed
>>I consider calling Judy delusional to be sexist and in keeping with the
>>"hysterical woman"
stereotype......................................................
No!!! I'M HYSTERICAL!!! I do not know if Judy is delusional or not, but
this statement is pure B.S.! "A belief held strongly in spite of
contradictory evidence" is how my dictionary defines delusional. It is
certainly a possibly appropriate word given the subject mattter.
How big *is* that chip on your shoulder?
Judy Stein
in article <4kb5j7$q...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, banj...@aol.com
(BanjoVed) wrote:
Well, since I'm the one with all the evidence, probably not in
that respect.
But "delusional" isn't *sexist*. That's absurd.
"Delusional" is gender-neutral. ("Hysterical" is a different
story--it's derived from the Greek *hyster*, meaning uterus, and
while it's now gender-neutral, it's still more often applied to
women.)
Women are still more often *considered* to be delusional, but
just because someone calls a woman delusional doesn't mean
they're sexist. There has to be some other indication.
I've never seen *any* indications of sexism from any of the
people I argue with on the newsgroup. I have no idea what they
think about or talk about among themselves, but I've never seen
sexism in their newsgroup posts.