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RickMo3

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Oct 26, 1997, 2:00:00 AM10/26/97
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Okay, everybody sitting down? Comfortable-relaxed?
Alright, I hope it's safe to proceed. Someone on another ng just posted that
it's only 60 days til Christmas! Aghhhhh!!! How sick is that to post a
message like that. Don't people take into consideration what news like that
can do to a person's heart1?1
I'll take a double of prozac please, with a twist....

*****Half Full, Half M.T.****
Maureen
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Michele

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Oct 26, 1997, 2:00:00 AM10/26/97
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60 days!!! I'll take a share of that prozac! And some valium too keep
from killing the crowds! Road rage is a real possiblility as I cruise
to the valley to shop!
Michele

Shan Leslie

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Oct 26, 1997, 2:00:00 AM10/26/97
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Cheryl,

You ain't alone girl!! I HATE going shopping! There is abosolutely
nothing about it that's appealing to me!

I used to like grocery shopping...but about 8 years ago that appeal came
to sreeeching halt too.

i like kids...but NOT when I'm trying to EAT OUT.......OK? (Been there
done that with my own thank you)
And I want to get up and slap these mother's who sit and try to reason
with a lil' screaming manic whose hollars and temper tantrums are
peeling the wall paper off the wall, and yell 'SNAP OUT OF IT!! TAKE
THAT KID HOME SO I CAN ENJOY MY MEAL THAT I'M PAYING $13.95 FOR!!!!!!!!"

(Ok ok ok...now I'm in for it by ALL the MOM's on the ng...sorry! I'm
sure your lil' dear isn't like that! :) )

Shan :)

RickMo3

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Oct 26, 1997, 2:00:00 AM10/26/97
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Cheryl wrote:
<<Now I don't like crowds, screaming kids drive me nuts, and people in
express lanes writing checks for 20 items really piss me off! And here I
thought I was just getting really cranky in my old age (29). Or is it that
I just feel like crap, wish the whole world felt the same way>>

Now you've got it. You're exactly where I am but 20 years my junior--what
really drives me insane though is the little old men with hats that are out on
the road!!!!

******Half Full, Half M.T.****
Maureen
Rickmo3


BBaum79073

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Oct 27, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/27/97
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Shan,

I am with you. I hate crowds, especially going to the "mall". I would rather
take a whipping!

Hugs

Betty

TravelJV

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Oct 27, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/27/97
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>60 days!!! I'll take a share of that prozac! And some valium too keep
>from killing the crowds! Road rage is a real possiblility as I cruise
>to the valley to shop!

Laugh if you will, but that's one very good reason most of my shopping is done
with Home Shopping.

Cathy

TravelJV

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Oct 27, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/27/97
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> I hate
>to go to the store, it seems that I just have a short fuse nowadays. Is
>this common with FMS?

I think it's a result of the FMS. We know it takes us longer to do things than
it does "normal" people, so our time is so limited, etc.

Cathy

DLB232

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Oct 27, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/27/97
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Uuuuuuuuuu, doesn't that just make you C~R~A~Z~Y
when REAL old people can barely see over their steering

wheels, and they are only going 25 mph in a '40 mph zone'
where most rational people go 45-50 mph ?! grrrrrrrrrrrr

.....and it's a smidge curvy or hilly and there is NO place
to pass them...grrrrrrrr ;-)

Ryan Kirwan

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Oct 27, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/27/97
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bul...@northernnet.com wrote:
>
> Those little old people going 25 in a 40 mph are known as "hats"--don't
> you notice they always are wearing HATS!!!

The one that hit my 18 year old son two weeks ago was wearing a hat.
He ran a stop sign (the old guy, not my son). We now need two new
passenger doors. Like I need the stress.

Richard

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Oct 28, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/28/97
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> it's only 60 days til Christmas! Aghhhhh!!!

Ah, yes, that joyous season when it's harder to avoid the most
psycho members of my family and my mother-in-law comes to stay with
us-- for 2 1/2 weeks ! There isn't enough Prozac in the world. Just
shoot me now.
Caukee


Aris2chat

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Oct 28, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/28/97
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I try to avoid the holidays just to avoid the stress. Most of my friend
understand and I try to make it up to them in little way all year long.
Keep it simple KISS

(\ ~ /) Liz "Dutchess"
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The deepest joy is felt by those
Who know what pain is, too~
And I belong in this large group
And so do most of you
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tamlin

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Oct 28, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/28/97
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Christmas! Ayyyiiiieeeee!

Already I've started, working on the various craft projects we're giving
as presents this year - though with my hands working so badly this year,
that's been just a bit of a challenge. We've already spent many days at
the craft store, and now we have to go back for gift wrap and gift tags
and such...this weekend we make candles for our friends...Cubby is going
to watercolor tissue paper for some of the presents...and in the midst
of sorting things to move, we're trying to create a neat enough living
room to put up the tree. 60 days out, and I'm already in the, um,
Christmas "spirit". Despite it all, I keep getting reminded I'm on
medical leave for a reason, and generally end up exhausted on the daybed
wondering how it's all going to get done...

You know, December 27th will be the year's anniversary of my getting
diagnosed - the symptoms got so bad right after Christmas that my
rheumatologist felt comfortable saying that her "provisional" diagnosis
was the correct one. Blah. I wonder what the relationship is between the
holidays and fibromyalgia flares? Scary thought, in the season of
peace...(and Halloween isn't even over yet!).

-Jill.


Richard <fr...@vabch.com> writes:

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altruist, activist, dreamer, and doer.
I am Cubby's girl.
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RickMo3

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Oct 29, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/29/97
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Caukee wrote:
<<Ah, yes, that joyous season when it's harder to avoid the most
psycho members of my family and my mother-in-law comes to stay with
us-- for 2 1/2 weeks ! There isn't enough Prozac in the world. Just
shoot me now.>>

That gave me a real chuckle - probably because it's the same for most of us.
Wow though, 2 1/2 weeks--doesnt that extend beyond the boundaries of good
"guesting?" LOL

MTB
******Half Full, Half M.T.******
Maureen


RickMo3

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Oct 29, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/29/97
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Jill wrote:
<<I wonder what the relationship is between the holidays and fibromyalgia
flares?>>

I put the status of FMS'ers right up there with the alcoholics at this time of
year.- anybody and everybody who has hosted a holiday soiree for family or
friends during theis season has a war story as to how this DD affected their
plans.
No matter how you try to follow those advice guidelines like: don't drink this
and don't eat that, and of course the always "crummy rope

Shan Leslie

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Oct 29, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/29/97
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Dear gang,

I feel like a traitor...sob!

I ENJOY the HOLIDAYS!!! ( Don't hit me!!)

The reason I do is that just about now I'm gearing up to paint ALL those
Christmas windows. You know...you probably have somebody just like me in
YOUR town who paints Santa and Rudy and all the Christmas neat stuff on
businesses and homes,etc.

Well that's what I do! Yeah by Dec 26th I feel like I need INTENSIVE
CARE...but the rewards are many in spite of the pain.

Normally people are cheery and polite and as November rolls on into Dec
they get down right MERRY! I really do meet a lot of nice people. When
I'm painting I always have at least 2 or 3 by stander/ watchers who stop
to chat and compliment me on my work. I mean ya know anybody would bask
in THAT kind of INSTANT GRADIFICTION!
( Almost as good as sex!)

I always get requests to PLEEEEEESE come DO OUR window....and it makes
all those other slow months of the year dissappear in misty cloud of
holiday spirit..!

And of course ...I ALWAYS DRESS...in HOLIDAY DUDS...while painting...
everyone looks for this little pear shaped window artist with fingerless
gloves, in a Santa hat , big RED SANTA TOP, paint smeared leggings &
those lovely knee high green striped socks, and high topped boots!!!!
( MY XMAS 'POOF' WEAR!!)

Yes, and the financial rewards are great too!

As far as celebrating it...Jean and I ( we each have a home) set up our
respective trees and we always have Christmas eve and morning at HER
house...where we open a mountain of gifts...

I always cook a slendid holiday meal at MY house and aside from that we
really don't have the pressure of holiday family stuff...I send off my
grandkids stuff early
and so it's just she and I.

Last year I went all out at my place...indoor/outdoor christmas
lights...a miniture railroad under the tree...house decorations
..sleigh bells on the front door...the whole nine yards.

I must admit that after painting windows feverishly for about 6 weeks,
all the lights and busy work at home for christmas...by the 26th...I am
definetly OVER IT!

But I truely EMPATHIZE with the REST of you and hope your HOLIDAY'S are
better than ever this year!!!!!

Now lets see...where'd I but those singing lights...!!

JOY!

Shan

"When choosing between two evils I always like to take the one I've
never tried before"

Mae West

Aris2chat

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Oct 29, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/29/97
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Fingerless Gloves
I cut the ends off every pair of tiny knit gloves and keep a pair in every
jacket and coat pocket. I espescially like the ones with the little
rubber dots or snowflakes on the palms. Buy them cheep at the end of each
season. Kids always loose one glove and I have a bag full of odds I give
the kids for snow fights or kids that come over without gloves to wear
home. Even my husband likes them better without the tips.

tamlin

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Oct 29, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/29/97
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*laugh* You're not a traitor. Despite it all, I enjoy the holidays too.
As long as I stay away from the malls as much as possible (we live five
minutes from one of the biggest malls in NJ; you should *see* the traffic
during the holiday season), and keep myself focused on the fact that the
holidays are supposed to be fun, I really am ok. I think I'm just
overwhelmed this year because there's so much stuff I want to make, and my
hands just aren't working real well for painting and cross stitch and
such. It's going slower than I would like it to.

We have lots of things we do during the holidays...we drive around and see
the Christmas decorations in NYC, preferably fairly late in the evening so
we don't hit traffic...it's quite a sight. I started a tradition last
year of giving Cubby a little gift for each of the days of Hannukah -
something little like a new pen or a candy bar or whatever, but she really
seemed to enjoy the reminders. We're working on shopping for the craft
materials together, and making the gifts together, and then shopping for
the wraps and the tags and stuff together - Cubby is an expert at gift
wrapping; last year she made beautiful gift baskets for my parents. On
Christmas Eve, I go to my parents' to sing at Christmas Mass with my
father, and then the three of us cook dinner together. On Christmas
morning, we open all of the presents.

Cubby and I don't know what we're doing this year, yet - last year, I
worked Christmas Day, so I went to my parents' in the morning and she
spent the day with friends. We're hoping we can spend more of the holiday
together this year, especially since my family seems to be adjusting
slowly to her presence in my life (that's the best Christmas gift I could
get). We'll see. We're probably not doing many gifts for each other this
years (my being on leave has put a cramp in the budget, and we need to
save money to move), but if we have money for post-Christmas sales we hope
to donate some toys to the local battered women's shelter for the children
who come to the shelter. We'll see.

Anyway, I'm rambling, but my point is that I *do* manage to have a lot of
fun around the holidays. I just have to remember not to run myself
ragged! :)

Shan, do you want to come and paint our windows? You can have lots of
breaks for hot baths and hot tea, along with Cubby's great cooking. :)
What do you think? *grin*

-Jill.


aval...@webtv.net (Shan Leslie) writes:

>Dear gang,

>JOY!

>Shan

Shan Leslie

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Oct 29, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/29/97
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Why Jill...I'd love to paint them thar windows...warm up the toddy and
throw some wood on the fire...limber up those vocal chords for
songs...invite all our ng friends........lets see I should be there
about half past December !!!!

((Hugs)) :) Shan

RickMo3

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Oct 29, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/29/97
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Jill wrote:
<<As long as I stay away from the malls as much as possible (we live five
minutes from one of the biggest malls in NJ; you should *see* the traffic
during the holiday season)>>

Get outta here--where in NJ do you live? I'm in North Haledon! When you
mentioned the big malls I had to figure near Paramus but then again it could
be way down south--

<<we drive around and see the Christmas decorations in NYC,preferably fairly


late in the evening so we don't hit traffic...it's quite a sight.>>

Isn't it the best? I'm sorry to say I can't keep up the pace anymore--I used
to love nothing more than going into the city during the holidays and looking
at the windows, the TREE, Rock Plaza and St. Pat's. God I miss those days when
I could walk forever and want to continue forever more...
Ahhhhh..

<<We're hoping we can spend more of the holiday together this year, especially
since my family seems to be adjusting slowly to her presence in my life >>

Well. now I know what I can write Santa to bring you this year--I'll hold a
good thought for that very wish to come true!!!

<<Anyway, I'm rambling>>

No way Jill- I love hearing about everybody's life. Makes this all so
personal, don't you agree?

aileen holovacs

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Oct 29, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/29/97
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RickMo3 wrote:

>
> Jill wrote:
> <<As long as I stay away from the malls as much as possible (we live five
> minutes from one of the biggest malls in NJ; you should *see* the traffic
> during the holiday season)>>
>
> Get outta here--where in NJ do you live? I'm in North Haledon! When you
> mentioned the big malls I had to figure near Paramus but then again it could
> be way down south--
>
> <<we drive around and see the Christmas decorations in NYC,preferably fairly

>

> ******Half Full, Half M.T.******
> Maureen

-- I assumed the mall was woodbridge. N. haledon? I used to go to billy
pat, dring at the barn door, and live in ramsey.
Aileen
holo...@idt.net

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LKing02

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Oct 30, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/30/97
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Yeah, We all go grrrr at those little old men but thank your stars they are not
little old men or women from Brooklyn that now live in South Florida driving
for the first time in their life. When I lived down there and applied for my
liscence they were using walkers but getting the liscence. And talk about
mean!
Ree
lauree

RickMo3

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Oct 30, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/30/97
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Caukee wrote:
<<She's also become more difficult to entertain,
finding it too tiring to go to a museum, but not to walk my feet off
at some mall>>

You poor thing--I don't mean to laugh but do you have any idea how many of us
feel this way about in-laws. They seem to have no other purpose but to crucify
us at every turn. Yet as infuriating as it is, it makes me laugh that they're
all so predictable. Kind of like tht famous line in a play when someone says
they're "not hungry, I'll just pick" and then they proceed to eat everything
off your plate and off the plate of the people at the next table.
Some people have wonderful in-law relationships--well God bless them--I ahppen
to feel that they are one big, giant cosmic joke--very much like this DD.
Hang in there--If it's almost Christmas--4th of July can't be far behind...

Richard

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Oct 30, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/30/97
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> I know, easier said than done. :(
>
> -Jill.

Yes, indeed, esp. since she's 79, my husband's her only child, and she
lives in England. She's also become more difficult to entertain,


finding it too tiring to go to a museum, but not to walk my feet off

at some mall. She doesn't drive, so she can't go out alone. Shopping
and eating seem to be the only outings she enjoys (I never was a
recreational shopper), and finding a place that has vegetarian food
of which she approves is nearly impossible. I used to love Christmas:
the decorating, cooking, caroling, taking the nieces and nephews out
to look at lights,etc. Now her visits have made me dread it; I use
most of my energy to get the house clean before she gets here, and
restraining myself from blowing up at her once she's here. I would go
ahead and do that too, if it would make her understand, but nothing
does. She's just very self-centered.
One thing that really drives us insane is that we can't get her to be
honest with us. We try to plan things, like restaurants or other
outings, and solicit her opinions. She says something's okay, then
later sulks and pouts about it, apparently because we didn't read her
mind and figure out she was lying. This is apparently her idea of
being polite.
I increasingly retreat to my room, but I'm not wild about being a
prisoner in my own home.
I also get no sex when she's here. Even when we go somewhere, stay in
a hotel, and I make sure she's on a different floor, I guess she's too
much for my husband's libido. So I'm especially pleased that she's
arriving on my birthday this year...

I. of course think my husband should tell her she can't come for so
long, and should do more to help out, but I'm sick of fighting with
him about it. And he puts up with my crazy family, too. If MY mother
(who's local) came to stay, I'D move out !

Thanks for being there. I really needed to vent.

Caukee


tamlin

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Oct 30, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/30/97
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Well, if your husband is unwilling to speak with her, and is willing to
continue to let her behavior ruin your Christmas and impact your health,
why not go visit friends or otherwise go have a good time during her
visit, and leave *him* to deal with her??

I know, I know, another stupid solution, it would probably ruin your
marriage- but it's such a delightfully wonderful "justice" scenario, it
just had to be said, in hopes of producing at least a small grin...:)

More seriously, I'm glad your husband is tolerant of your own family; that
at least makes up for some of it. I'm still wondering if there's some
sort of compromise that could be struck here, but I don't doubt you've
tried every angle.

I often wonder if in-laws of this sort take courses in making their
children's lives miserable? :(

-Jill.

> Caukee

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TravelJV

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Nov 1, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/1/97
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>Well the closet fairy ate my outfit

And I thought I was the only one with a closet fairy! I hope they don't
multiply. They never take the junk clothes, only the ones needed for that
special occasion!

Cathy

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