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Reeves Must Go seems to be the current theme...
2004 to 2009

R.E.S.C.I.N.D.
http://www.rescindinc.org/

Retaking the Patients & Advocates Voices to Washington DC
Notice: Presentation ~ June 21, 2004 CFSAC Meeting
http://listserv.nodak.edu/cgi-bin/wa.exe?A2=ind0407a&L=co-cure&F=&S=&P=541

Reeves Must Go
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.med.fibromyalgia/search?hl=en&q=Reeves+Must+Go&start=0&scoring=d&hl=en&

RESCIND NCF Petition
A Call For Action: The Recognition of Myalgic Encephalomyelitis as A
Serious and Debilitating Disease
http://www.petitiononline.com/MEitis/petition.html

Hoping the person NCF President & Editor Gail Kansky speaks of is
doing much better.

Anesthesia
http://listserv.nodak.edu/cgi-bin/wa.exe?A2=ind0910e&L=co-cure&T=0&F=&S=&P=61

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TWO FOUNDATIONS COOPERATE TO ANNOUNCE PAPER ON TOXINS

The National CFIDS Foundation, in cooperation with the Nancy Taylor
Foundation for Chronic Diseases, have announced a formal Green Paper
on Algal Toxins prepared by Dana T. Cesar, Ph.D.

The full paper is on our website www.ncf-net.org
(http://www.ncf-net.org) ) and a very brief summary follows:

"Because of the evolutionary function of blue-green algae (BGA) to
biodegrade matter, effluents into Oklahoma's water system encourage
algal blooms that produce toxins that target the nervous system, the
brain and the liver. Toxins are lethal or debilitating, even in
small amounts. Vulnerable
populations, like children, the elderly or those with lowered immune
systems
are particularly susceptible to diseases caused by algal toxins.

Because the United States has not yet set any guidelines for 'any of
the
cyanotoxins,' state and local authorities are left to determine their
own
standards, as per the Clean Water Act of 1972. Furthermore, the
Safe
Drinking Water Act amendment of 1996 required states to protect
'drinking water and its sources: rivers, reservoirs, springs, and
ground water wells."

In light of the evolutionary endurance of the bacgeria, a current
outbreak
of harmful algal blooms and an impending water shortage, the Green
Paper
calls on authorities to generate focused and coordinated discussion
for
immediate and state action in mobilizing resources at 'war-time
speed' for the
protection of the public against cyanobacterial toxin exposure."

~

Swine Flu Cases Overestimated?
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/10/21/cbsnews_investigates/main5404829.shtml

Uninsured Americans Hope Reform Brings Health Coverage
http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2009/09/16-2

The Article Library of the National CFIDS Foundation
http://www.ncf-net.org/library.htm

M.E. Deserves Research.

The patient's voices have been heard.

To all of you, thank you.


NCF Fundraiser for Research
See Special Offers
http://patricialynch.avonrepresentative.com/online_event/view.php?rep_spnsr_evnt_id=9003

A past president's every other word -- Accountability

Our new president speaks of -- Change


What we need is change we can believe in...
More later...

Please keep my loved one's in your prayers.
Soft hugs and prayers to those who need them.

In memory of those remembered
http://www.ncf-net.org/memorial.htm

Diana Saba
Disabled Retired Nurse
Proud member of NCF
M.E. Deserves Research

"What lies behind us and what lies before us, are tiny matters,
compared to what lies within us"
~Ralph Waldo Emerson~

DGSaba

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Went back and reread, and I'm not sure who sent the message mentioning
Tom H wants us to support WPI.

I wrote an email to R.E.S.C.I.N.D. -- Jerry and Tom H and asked them
if they knew their website show's: domain not valid -- This site is
temporarily unavailable, etc., and Jerry wrote back to tell me they
are in the process of changing web sites. Not sure why they are
changing it, though... http://www.rescindinc.org/

I support the ME petition but I can't support WPI under the
circumstances, not even if Tom H asks. I do, however, support Tom H's
May 12 Awareness Day but hope he understands my feelings about WPI,
IACFS and CFSAC. I do hope Tom is pain free and healing as much as
possible.

I've been asking around as to who holds the patent to XMRV and more on
that later,

Apparently, there is an Atlanta Journalist interested and I have asked
the Journalist to contact The National CFIDS Foundation http://www.ncf-net.org
and mentioned there's year's and year's of documentation he needs to
be aware of. Also, mentioned for him to google dgsaba via:
Advocates: Where was CDC for milestone in chronic fatigue syndrome
research?
http://www.atlantaunfiltered.com/2009/10/28/advocates-where-was-cdc-for-milestone-in-chronic-fatigue-syndrome-research/comment-page-2/#comment-1056

Health Care Bill Must Ensure Scientific Integrity, Groups Say
http://www.commondreams.org/newswire/2009/11/03-8

Federal Bureau of Investigation - New E-Scams & Warnings
Scroll down to Work At Home Scams
http://www.fbi.gov/cyberinvest/escams.htm

Senate Votes to Hide Information From the American Public
http://coburn.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=LatestNews.PressReleases&ContentRecord_id=5a72380c-802a-23ad-4b29-cb0868730569&Issue_id=

Regarding XMRV ...
"Some patients have no idea what they're reading. The article in the
New York Times was about the retrovirus and mentioned it had also been
found in some with FMS but never said it was related, in any way, to
HIV".

Three guesses who stated the following: Novemeber 13, 2000
Hint: CAA supporter...
"Heed my words well, Mrs. Saba, if this continues, it will no longer
be a threat".

Permission to post was not granted by Diana Saba
January 20, 2001
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.med.fibromyalgia/msg/4b3593cd40536b59?hl=en&dmode=source

CDC Porn
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.med.fibromyalgia/search?hl=en&group=alt.med.fibromyalgia&q=CDC+Porn&qt_g=Search+this+group

Retaking the Patients & Advocates Voices to Washington DC
Notice: Presentation ~ June 21, 2004 CFSAC Meeting
http://listserv.nodak.edu/cgi-bin/wa.exe?A2=ind0407a&L=co-cure&F=&S=&P=541

RESCIND NCF Petition
A Call For Action: The Recognition of Myalgic Encephalomyelitis as A
Serious and Debilitating Disease
http://www.petitiononline.com/MEitis/petition.html

Uninsured Americans Hope Reform Brings Health Coverage
http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2009/09/16-2

The Article Library of the National CFIDS Foundation
http://www.ncf-net.org/library.htm

M.E. Deserves Research.

The patient's voices have been heard.

To all of you, thank you.

NCF Fundraiser For Research

DGSaba

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Thought you'd want to know.

RES,NOT: Ampligen Update
http://listserv.nodak.edu/cgi-bin/wa.exe?A2=ind0911a&L=co-cure&T=0&F=&S=&P=4104

Date: 3 November 2009
Author: Adam Feuerstein


Partial Excerpt:
PHILADELPHIA, Pa. (TheStreet) - Hemispherx Biopharma(HEB Quote) issued
an "update" to the regulatory status of its chronic fatigue syndrome
drug Ampligen in which the company essentially admits that its prior
public
statements were false and misleading.
http://www.thestreet.com/_yahoo/story/10620979/1/hemispherx-cops-to-ampligen=-fda-delay.html

Maybe, Nancy Kaiser and others will be able to rest in peace now.

RESCIND NCF Petition
A Call For Action: The Recognition of Myalgic Encephalomyelitis as A
Serious and Debilitating Disease
http://www.petitiononline.com/MEitis/petition.html

Health Care Bill Must Ensure Scientific Integrity, Groups Say
http://www.commondreams.org/newswire/2009/11/03-8

Uninsured Americans Hope Reform Brings Health Coverage

DGSaba

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Today is Veterans Day and I dedicate today's comments to our Veterans.

I was born at an Air Force Base and appreciative of Veterans, since a
very young age. My stepmother served as a WAC, my birth father, Air
Force and Navy. My childrens father served the Navy. My husband
served the Army.

Since about the age of 4 I dreamed of being a nurse. Several of my
Aunts and step grandmother were nurses. I went to the Air Force
recruiters office and didn't realize until after all the testing,
etc., when it came down to signing on the line, just prior to being
offered the papers to sign, I was briefed about my having to sign
custody of my children over to someone else while I was to do basic
and tech training. I could not sign it.

I inquired about a Ceta grant and was accepted and graduated Licensed
Practical School of Nursing. Over the many years, as a nurse, I've
worked with medical Veterans, and cared for several Veterans,
including two four star Generals.

My foster mother was a retired Colonel. She and my step mother have
died and as I look back at their photo's I'm as proud of them today as
I was so many, many years, ago.

Recently, millions of dollars were allocated for our Veterans and the
care they need.

I had hoped to go to town and watch our Veterans Parade down main
street, but woke with a terrible headache, and will look forward to
next weeks paper when the pictures of our Veterans Parade will be
shared.

To those who serve and served our Country, honorably, I honor you.

Good health and Happy Veterans Day!

DGSaba

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It is with great sadness I have to let you know we lost Linda C.
Ferris, of New Hartford Connecticut, she died at home on Sunday
November 8, 2009.

She had been sick for several years. She took her own life. A
graveside service was conducted by Pastor Kimberly W. Wadhams November
11th, 2009 at 10 am. She and Pastor Kimberly, attended Sunday School
together, as children.

She had always told me she was planning her own service and in the end
the bag pipes did play for her. When she talked about her death she
always talked about the bag pipes and the person she wanted to play
them.

Please take a moment and say a prayer for LInda, and her loved ones.
I'm going to go back thru her last emails. I have just gotten off the
phone with Sue, her best friend. Please keep Sue in your prayers.

Linda's last request was that in lieu of flowers, memorial
contributions may be given to the National CFIDS Foundation, 103
Aletha Road, Needham, MA 02492-3931 at
http://www.NCF-NET.org

The Gleeson Mortuary was entrusted with Linda's arrangements.

I have contacted as many of you as I had phone numbers for and I'm
sorry the rest of you have had to find out via email.

One last prayer for Linda...May the peace of God and the Holy Spirit
rest within you.

Soft hugs and prayers,

DGSaba

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Thank you Mr. Thomas Hennessy Jr. Founder of RESCIND, Inc., and
International M.E. Awareness Day
http://may121992.com/

Shared by others

Amazing Grace
Four Tenors (IIDivo) Singing inside the Coliseum in Rome
http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid1785324681?bclid=1338935106&bctid=1913313052

THANKSGIVING SEASON . . .
http://www.cpmsglife2.org/MSG/Pres/td/td1.html

CDC Corruption
http://politicolnews.com/topics/cdc-corruption/

Hemispherx Lawsuits ~ Ampligen
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.med.cfs/topics?hl=en

&

Co-Cure Archives - November 2009, week 2
http://listserv.nodak.edu/cgi-bin/wa.exe?A1=ind0911b&L=co-cure

The Strange Saga of W. John
By Mike Reynolds
http://www.ncf-net.org/forum.htm

And yet people are still asking about "stealth viruses" when it was
proven
that W. John was untruthful about what he had really found and he
was
actually testing for ciguatera!

Regarding retroviral research:

Elaine DeFreitas' work had nothing to do with a
retrovirus. She stated, quite clearly, that it was "retroviral-
like".

This work was completed and reported upon. In a nutshell, using the
latest PCR primers based upon all the HTLV-II strains reported upon in
the literature (Pubmed) plus Genbank, only 2% of CFIDS patients were
found to have HTLV-II. Separate testing was also completed using
DeFreitas' probes as well.....

Dr. DeFreitas was very helpful in following up with this work.

XMRV: Questions and Answers - National Cancer Institute
http://www.cancer.gov/newscenter/pressreleases/XMRV_QandA

Health Deform
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2009/11/16-2

PTSD
Institute for Public Accuracy (IPA): Veteran Fasting Outside White
House
http://www.commondreams.org/newswire/2009/11/19-0

Discovery in worms by Queen's Researchers Points to more Targeted
Cancer Treatments
http://www.bioresearchonline.com/article.mvc/Discovery-In-Worms-By-Queens-Researchers-0001?user=426488&source=nl:25992&VNETCOOKIE=NO

Abbott to Acquire Novel Investigational Biologic To Treat Chronic Pain
http://www.bioresearchonline.com/article.mvc/Abbott-To-Acquire-Novel-Investigational-Biolo-0001?user=426488&source=nl:25992

RESCIND NCF Petition
A Call For Action: The Recognition of Myalgic Encephalomyelitis as A
Serious and Debilitating Disease
http://www.petitiononline.com/MEitis/petition.html

Health Care Bill Must Ensure Scientific Integrity, Groups Say
http://www.commondreams.org/newswire/2009/11/03-8

Uninsured Americans Hope Reform Brings Health Coverage
http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2009/09/16-2

The Article Library of the National CFIDS Foundation
http://www.ncf-net.org/library.htm

M.E. Deserves Research.

The patient's voices have been heard.

To all of you, thank you.

A past president's every other word -- Accountability

Our new president speaks of -- Change

What we need is change we can believe in...
More later...

Please keep my loved one's in your prayers.
Soft hugs and prayers to those who need them.

In memory of those remembered
http://www.ncf-net.org/memorial.htm

Diana Saba
Disabled Retired Nurse

DGSaba

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To those who celebrate ThanksGiving please remember those who have
dedicated years and years to research.

Once again, NCF is being referred to as an Association, this needs to
be corrected, the NCF is a Foundation. The correct name is: The
National CFIDS Foundation,Inc., which focuses on ME, CFIDS, FMS, GWI,
MCS and Related Illnesses.

Press Releases from The National CFIDS Foundation
http://www.ncf-net.org/PressReleases.htm

Ciguatera Epitope is Autoimmune Marker
http://www.ncf-net.org/pdf/HokamaCardiolipinCFS2008.pdf

The Role of Viruses in ME/CFS -XMRV Pace Trial

Partial Excerpt:

In August 1991, together with co-author Brendan Hilliard,
Elaine De Freitas had applied for a world patent that was
subsequently issued in April 1992. Detailed information has
been provided by Dr Alan Cocchetto, Medical Director of The
National CFIDS Association
( http://www.ncf-net.org/forum/revelations.html ).

Cocchetto is clear: “the contents of this paper have major
implications
due to the depth and scientific quality of the work…The entire
patent is approximately 40 pages. If the NIH ignored the
depth of this work… then the NIH dropped the ball on this one
and should be held accountable.

The inventors even state:
‘The ability to screen blood samples infected by CAV
(CFIDS-associated virus) enables producers and
distributors of blood products, eg. the American Red Cross,
to identify and discard donated blood…intended for use in
transfusions…If unscreened, the use of such blood and
blood-derived products could contribute to the spread of
CFIDS’.

The inventors reveal: ‘Neither HTLV-I, II, nor HIV
virions have ever been found inside mitochondria… the
positive results support the possibility that this CAV is
capable of casual transmission to non-infected persons’.
If the NIH ignored this last comment, then something is
dramatically wrong with the agency that is supposed to
protect and safeguard the welfare of the citizens of the United
States.

Again, the implications here are just staggering…The
only conclusion that can be reached is that this work is very
thorough and extensive. It has been funded by the NIH….Any
retrovirus that can invade the mitochondria directly indicates
trouble. As far as I’m concerned, there needs to be a criminal
investigation of the NIH regarding why they refused to fund
upon submission of all this data”.


It has been said that De Freitas’s reputation was intentionally
destroyed because her research did not support the theory
that (ME)CFS is a psychoneurosis, and that her public
discrediting caused others to fear following up her work
(Co-Cure;NOT: 16th October 2009).
http://listserv.nodak.edu/cgi-bin/wa.exe?A2=ind0911d&L=co-cure&T=0&F=&S=&P=2022

Dr. DeFreitas was very helpful in following up with this work.

XMRV: Questions and Answers - National Cancer Institute
http://www.cancer.gov/newscenter/pressreleases/XMRV_QandA

Thank you Mr. Thomas Hennessy Jr. Founder of RESCIND, Inc., and


International M.E. Awareness Day
http://may121992.com/

RESCIND NCF Petition

DGSaba

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More comments, which seemed to have stirred up more questions...

OslersWeb.com
http://www.oslersweb.com/

Where's Waldo?
http://www.cfsuntied.com/blog1/

What Do You Want To Say To The CAA?
http://cfsuntied.com/blog1/2009/11/22/what-do-you-want-to-say-to-the-caa/#comments

Expert Answers on Chronic Fatigue Syndrome
http://consults.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/11/24/expert-answers-on-chronic-fatigue-syndrome

Bringing the Heat: An ME/CFS Blog
http://aboutmecfs.org/blog/

~ end ~

Cheeky Bastard

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DGSaba wrote:
> Women and Children of CFIDS + Men
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> ~*A comment or two*~
>
> To those who celebrate ThanksGiving please remember those who have
> dedicated years and years to research.


And ask them what they have done for anyone?

I give thanks to ignoring these nutjobs.

CB


DGSaba

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What about medical professionals who were given Hep B Vaccines,
because we worked in high risk area's?

The National CFIDS Foundation Medical Discoveries
http://www.ncf-net.org/Discoveries.htm

Patient and Physician Information about CFIDS/ME
http://www.ncf-net.org/patient-physician.htm
Please see:
Anesthesia

Information about anesthesia

Anesthesia has adversely affected patients with CFIDS (also known as
chronic fatigue syndrome and myalgic encephalomyelitis). The reason
for this has been found. Recent research* funded by the National CFIDS
Foundation, Inc. found that a substance, much like ciguatera toxin, is
being produced in the body by a disease process in those with CFIDS/ME/
CFS. Dubbed the “ciguatera epitope,” this research explains the danger
of using any anesthesia that uses the sodium channel at the cellular
level. Some anesthesiologists have had success blocking the sodium
channel during anesthesia for CFIDS/ME/CFS patients.

*J Clin Lab Anal, 6/2003, Hokama et al

*J Toxicology, 12/2003, Hokama et al

Ciguatera Epitope is Autoimmune Marker

http://www.ncf-net.org/pdf/HokamaCardiolipinCFS2008.pdf

The National CFIDS Foundation's Patents of Interest
http://www.ncf-net.org/patents.html

Research Supported by Grants from The National CFIDS Foundation
http://www.ncf-net.org/NCFresearch.htm

Often Forgotten Marker is One Key to Unlocking the CFIDS/NE Mystery
http://www.ncf-net.org/forum/2009summer1.htm

A Call For Action: The Recognition of Myalgic Encephalomyelitis

http://www.petitiononline.com/MEitis/petition.html
http://www.ncf-net.org/petition.htm

Wistar Institute, Dr. Elaine DeFreitas, and the Cheney-Bell DeFreitas
Work: Startling Revelations from Wistar's World Patent and Serious
Reasons for Concern Now Revealed!
http://www.ncf-net.org/forum/revelations.html

More news from across the pond...

The ME Association
See: Quick Links
http://www.meassociation.org.uk

Thank you Mr. Thomas Hennessy Jr. Founder of RESCIND, Inc., and
International M.E. Awareness Day
http://may121992.com/

RESCIND NCF Petition
A Call For Action: The Recognition of Myalgic Encephalomyelitis as A
Serious and Debilitating Disease
http://www.petitiononline.com/MEitis/petition.html

Health Care Bill Must Ensure Scientific Integrity, Groups Say
http://www.commondreams.org/newswire/2009/11/03-8

Uninsured Americans Hope Reform Brings Health Coverage
http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2009/09/16-2

The Article Library of the National CFIDS Foundation
http://www.ncf-net.org/library.htm

M.E. Deserves Quality Research.

The patient's voices have been heard.

To all of you, thank you.

A past president's every other word -- Accountability

Our new president speaks of -- Change

What we need is change we can believe in...
More later...

Please keep my loved one's in your prayers, as I do yours.

BSDGAL

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How interesting that you are so un-fucked-up. You who are so fucked up
that the rest of us cease to be amazed by your fucked-up-ed-ness. You
amaze me as much as you continue to amaze all of us with your victimized
and abusive diatribe...

--

When it is dark enough, you can see the stars.
~Ralph Waldo Emerson
robbster | OOF

Cane

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Cheeky Bastard

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Almost a month for a reply?
Did your drugs wear off and you sobered up?

Unlike you and others I won,won't sit home and cry I have FMS.
Thanks to MY efforts you don't see me posting I'm in tons of pain or cant
get pain pills!

Sleep on that! LOL

CB
I have been quit for 9 Months, 2 Weeks, 2 Days, 5 hours, 25 minutes and 9
seconds (291 days). I have saved $2,337.07 by not smoking 8,736 cigarettes.
I have saved 4 Weeks, 2 Days and 8 hours of my life. My Quit Date: 3/14/2009
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