atypical allergy symptoms

[Graven Water]

I've spent much of my life sick from something that seems to be basically
allergic rhinitis. But I don't have the congestion symptoms that you
find listed as allergic rhinitis symptoms. I don't have a runny nose or
a stuffy nose. At times I've had postnasal drip, but for extended times
I can be sick without sensing any drainage down my throat. I've felt at
times like it's unpleasant and jarring to move my head suddenly.

The symptoms I do have from allergies are a chronic bleary state, feeling
all the time as if I'd just been woken up out of a deep sleep at 2 AM.
Like there was a cloud in my head. My mind cloudy, and an
almost palpable cloud, sitting in my head. Physically low energy. I
feel sick.

I've been to 5 allergists in recent years and I tell them about it and
they all except one, just wrote down "allergic rhinitis". Only one
kind of talked like I "should" be having those nasal symptoms.

But, when I go looking online for symptoms of allergic rhinitis, in
CME courses on it etc., I haven't found it mentioned that allergic
rhinitis might present simply as "fatigue and malaise", with very
few additional symptoms.

So where in the science-based medical literature is it mentioned that
allergic rhinitis could do this to you? That is my question. Can
anyone point me to an article on Medline or some science-based
reference that gives allergic rhinitis as a possible cause for
chronic malaise and fatigue without other symptoms?

I've heard that chronic sinusitis can cause "occult" illness, make
people feel bad without any specific symptoms. But I've had a couple
of sinus CT scans, and they were normal, so I don't think that's it.

I've done careful experiments with getting into a clean environment, I
get well after about a week, then I expose myself to inhalant allergens, I
get sick again. So I do know that it's inhalant allergies doing this
to me.

I have autoimmune diseases - Hashimoto's, which is an autoimmune thyroid
disease, and probably celiac disease. That might explain why I have
these symptoms of systemic inflammation. I take thyroid supplements and
my thyroid levels are normal, so it's not hypothyroidism.

I tried to get allergy shots
for years, but I would get sick for days after each shot. Allergy shots
made me feel similar to how my allergies feel.

I've wondered - if allergic rhinitis affects the back parts of your nose,
the cavity inside your head, rather than in the front of the nose, can it
have less obvious symptoms? Sometimes doctors have looked at the back
of my throat and in my nose and seen congestion when I wasn't
obviously congested. Sometimes, they look and say things don't seem
particularly congested or inflamed.

Laura

[carole]

"Graven Water" <pb...@grex.org> wrote in message news:2012011222145...@grex.org...

> I've spent much of my life sick from something that seems to be basically
> allergic rhinitis. But I don't have the congestion symptoms that you
> find listed as allergic rhinitis symptoms. I don't have a runny nose or
> a stuffy nose. At times I've had postnasal drip, but for extended times
> I can be sick without sensing any drainage down my throat. I've felt at
> times like it's unpleasant and jarring to move my head suddenly.
>
> The symptoms I do have from allergies are a chronic bleary state, feeling
> all the time as if I'd just been woken up out of a deep sleep at 2 AM.
> Like there was a cloud in my head. My mind cloudy, and an
> almost palpable cloud, sitting in my head. Physically low energy. I
> feel sick.
>
> I've been to 5 allergists in recent years and I tell them about it and
> they all except one, just wrote down "allergic rhinitis". Only one
> kind of talked like I "should" be having those nasal symptoms.
>
> But, when I go looking online for symptoms of allergic rhinitis, in
> CME courses on it etc., I haven't found it mentioned that allergic
> rhinitis might present simply as "fatigue and malaise", with very
> few additional symptoms.
>
> So where in the science-based medical literature is it mentioned that
> allergic rhinitis could do this to you? That is my question. Can
> anyone point me to an article on Medline or some science-based
> reference that gives allergic rhinitis as a possible cause for
> chronic malaise and fatigue without other symptoms?

Ah, somebody asking for scientific-related information ...at last.
I thought sci.med was only about rock fossils and religion.

Come on bob and steelclaws, help the guy out ...if you can.
But I severely doubt you have anything positive to offer anybody in any group, just alternative health bashing
and ridicule seems to be your forte.

>
> I've heard that chronic sinusitis can cause "occult" illness, make
> people feel bad without any specific symptoms. But I've had a couple
> of sinus CT scans, and they were normal, so I don't think that's it.
>
> I've done careful experiments with getting into a clean environment, I
> get well after about a week, then I expose myself to inhalant allergens, I
> get sick again. So I do know that it's inhalant allergies doing this
> to me.
>
> I have autoimmune diseases - Hashimoto's, which is an autoimmune thyroid
> disease, and probably celiac disease. That might explain why I have
> these symptoms of systemic inflammation. I take thyroid supplements and
> my thyroid levels are normal, so it's not hypothyroidism.
>
> I tried to get allergy shots
> for years, but I would get sick for days after each shot. Allergy shots
> made me feel similar to how my allergies feel.
>
> I've wondered - if allergic rhinitis affects the back parts of your nose,
> the cavity inside your head, rather than in the front of the nose, can it
> have less obvious symptoms? Sometimes doctors have looked at the back
> of my throat and in my nose and seen congestion when I wasn't
> obviously congested. Sometimes, they look and say things don't seem
> particularly congested or inflamed.
>
> Laura
>

I could make a suggestion but let's see if those of the scientific persuasion have anything to offer except
"go and see your friendly quack".


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carole
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[linda...@gmail.com]

We have found that postnasal drip can create a lot of chest congestion problems i.e. bronchitis, and even the headachy feeling. After several Drs. It was concluded to try keeping the sinuses clean through nasal irrigation. Might sound "quacky" but it has worked. We've been able to stave off the lingering colds and chronic bronchitis! It does work and the lung doctor is very pleased.

[amyeliza...@gmail.com]

Have you ever been tested for celiac disease? Something on Dr. Oz recently talked about an allergy to wheat gluten-- symptoms include a kind of "brain fog" feeling.

[hamza...@gmail.com]

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