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Jon
Mar 2, 2012, 11:17:25 AM3/2/12
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Any event that doesn't change no matter what coordinate system describes it,
is a physical law.
Starting with two or more coordinate systems, all events unaffected by how
they are described by them are physical laws.
That is, starting with two or more coordinate systems, all unknown physical
laws, can be deduced.
What are they?
is a physical law.
Starting with two or more coordinate systems, all events unaffected by how
they are described by them are physical laws.
That is, starting with two or more coordinate systems, all unknown physical
laws, can be deduced.
What are they?
Sam Wormley
Mar 2, 2012, 12:03:32 PM3/2/12
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On 3/2/12 10:17 AM, Jon wrote:
> Any event that doesn't change no matter what coordinate system describes
> it, is a physical law.
>
> Starting with two or more coordinate systems, all events unaffected by
> how they are described by them are physical laws.
The *order of events* is observer dependent. The "lingo" associated
> Any event that doesn't change no matter what coordinate system describes
> it, is a physical law.
>
> Starting with two or more coordinate systems, all events unaffected by
> how they are described by them are physical laws.
with this is referred to at the relativity of simultaneity. Often
space-time diagrams can help people visualize the relativity of
simultaneity. See:
http://www.phys.vt.edu/~takeuchi/relativity/notes/lightbulb.gif
http://www.phys.vt.edu/~takeuchi/relativity/notes/section09.html
be...@iwaynet.net
Mar 2, 2012, 4:24:39 PM3/2/12
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Reality in science isn't "deduced" it's measured.
And while in a static case the results calculated are not affected by
the choice of coordinate system, that is not the only case.
There is also the principle of relativity first stated by Galileo which
says that one cannot tell from measurements if you are standing still or
moving at a constant velocity. Hence we note that the speed of light
always measures the same no matter how fast you are traveling.
But these two cases are not the only kinds of coordinate systems that
can be invoked.
Darren
Mar 5, 2012, 5:00:59 AM3/5/12
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within a rotating coordinate system. I recommend the book "The Fabric
of the Cosmos" by Brian Greene for a discussion of this and more.
Jon
Mar 31, 2012, 9:40:08 PM3/31/12
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When a sphere is an equipotential surface, it requires zero energy to travel
from one point to the next. The shortest distance to travel from the
sphere's center to its surface is a straight radial line. EMR propagates in
this fashion only because by doing so it goes from a high potential
reservoir to a lower potential sink. Circumstances are in a predisposition
for the EMR to propagate, lowering its energy level in the process. Maybe
because when energy is FORCED to dissipate, it chooses the most economical
path, radially outward on the surface of a sphere. Like a pebble dropped
in a pond disturbing the medium (water), EMR pushes and pulls (warps) space
(the medium) because the energy is FORCED through space, having no other
means to dissipate its energy than radial propagation on the surface of an
expanding sphere. Some EMR is harmless to life (radio waves) and some EMR
cooks flesh (microwaves).
A mass is dropped in a pan of water creating ripples. It then knocks out a
hole in the bottom and drains the pan in a vortex. EMR propagates at first
but after the water drains it's lost its medium (the water). The system has
then deteriorated into a trough of lowest potential.
http://jons-math.bravehost.com/sourcesink.html
from one point to the next. The shortest distance to travel from the
sphere's center to its surface is a straight radial line. EMR propagates in
this fashion only because by doing so it goes from a high potential
reservoir to a lower potential sink. Circumstances are in a predisposition
for the EMR to propagate, lowering its energy level in the process. Maybe
because when energy is FORCED to dissipate, it chooses the most economical
path, radially outward on the surface of a sphere. Like a pebble dropped
in a pond disturbing the medium (water), EMR pushes and pulls (warps) space
(the medium) because the energy is FORCED through space, having no other
means to dissipate its energy than radial propagation on the surface of an
expanding sphere. Some EMR is harmless to life (radio waves) and some EMR
cooks flesh (microwaves).
A mass is dropped in a pan of water creating ripples. It then knocks out a
hole in the bottom and drains the pan in a vortex. EMR propagates at first
but after the water drains it's lost its medium (the water). The system has
then deteriorated into a trough of lowest potential.
http://jons-math.bravehost.com/sourcesink.html
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