Re: OT Vladyka Ticken is not AOK
Vladyka Ticken
> It is night here. I had a wonderful day at Church. I sang at the Divine
> Liturgy, the pannikhda for our archpriest emeritus that reposed 40 days
> ago tomorrow, enjoyed a wonderful fellowship luncheon, than went and sang
> at my dear friend's second wedding and then enjoyed a spectacular
> reception.
SECOND wedding? What happened to the first? Did she get divorced? Did it
drive her to serious mental illness, as you claim is the fate for Orthodox
Christian women going through a divorce?
>>> Dissolving an Orthodox Christian marriage is a very serious affair and
>>> would make any Orthodox Christian woman seriously mentally ill.
>>
>> How long had you been married before your husband came to his senses?
>> Were you married *in* the Orthodox Church? How long had you belonged to
>> the Orthodox church when you were divorced?
>>
> I divorced my husband. I have talked about this elsewhere. This subject
> is off topic to this public newsgroup. The newsgroup has requested we take
> this conversation to private email.
I will not give you my e-mail address. You have abused that privilege in the
past; I won't have you flooding my Inbox with your manufactured drama.
You and your ex-husband were NOT married in the Orthodox church. You joined
the Orthodox church AFTER you divorced. So claiming that you were
"dissolving an Orthodox Christian marriage" is duplicitous.
> It is exciting all kinds of untoward comment in my direction. I am a
> devout Russian Orthodox mother and this is not how devout Russian Orthodox
> mothers should be treated.
You *earned* the negative comments. If only you had not dragged my comments
into aue I would have remained aloof.
> I would be willing to communicate with you in a parenting group if you are
> interested. There is one called alt.gothic.parenting and there is another
> one I was in for a brief amount of time before I got bored. Actually there
> was a divorce group I was in, I think it is alt.support.divorce, and I
> would be willing to converse with you there since you mentioned my
> divorce again.
I chose this group because it appears to be unused, except by spammers.
We're not disrupting any established online communities or ongoing
conversations by carrying on a discussion here. I don't want to subject any
other groups to the endless back-and-forth you seem to crave.
+VT
AOK
wrote:
> auty wrote:
> > It is night here. I had a wonderful day at Church. I sang at the Divine
> > Liturgy, the pannikhda for our archpriest emeritus that reposed 40 days
> > ago tomorrow, enjoyed a wonderful fellowship luncheon, than went and sang
> > at my dear friend's second wedding and then enjoyed a spectacular
> > reception.
>
> SECOND wedding? What happened to the first? Did she get divorced? Did it
> drive her to serious mental illness, as you claim is the fate for Orthodox
> Christian women going through a divorce?
>
This will excite untoward comment. What are you doing?
The woman is Catholic. I don't know about her first marriage. She was
divorced. I don't know her. I divorced my husband and it made me
mentally ill. That is my problem and not yours and I do not want to
talk about it in public, so stop. I don't want to talk about my
divorce in public either, nor her second marriage, nor her divorce.
> >>> Dissolving an Orthodox Christian marriage is a very serious affair and
> >>> would make any Orthodox Christian woman seriously mentally ill.
>
> >> How long had you been married before your husband came to his senses?
> >> Were you married *in* the Orthodox Church? How long had you belonged to
> >> the Orthodox church when you were divorced?
>
> > I divorced my husband. I have talked about this elsewhere. This subject
> > is off topic to this public newsgroup. The newsgroup has requested we take
> > this conversation to private email.
>
> I will not give you my e-mail address. You have abused that privilege in the
> past; I won't have you flooding my Inbox with your manufactured drama.
>
again but you do not know that because you will not give me a second
chance. I do not think it would be too hard for you to figure given
what we discussed and your intelligence. I think you are refusing to
examine the facts of the matter. If you were to look at what happened
and the progression of events in my life you will see the explanation
for my past behavior.
> You and your ex-husband were NOT married in the Orthodox church. You joined
> the Orthodox church AFTER you divorced. So claiming that you were
> "dissolving an Orthodox Christian marriage" is duplicitous.
>
Then I divorced him. It was made an Orthodox Christian marriage when
we were received in the Church.I will communicate with you as long as
I need to clear up these falsehoods on public record. I deserve the
privacy of email communication and not this shameless public exposure.
I will repeat, I am a devout Russian Orthodox mother and this is
abusive.
> > It is exciting all kinds of untoward comment in my direction. I am a
> > devout Russian Orthodox mother and this is not how devout Russian Orthodox
> > mothers should be treated.
>
> You *earned* the negative comments. If only you had not dragged my comments
> into aue I would have remained aloof.
>
> > I would be willing to communicate with you in a parenting group if you are
> > interested. There is one called alt.gothic.parenting and there is another
> > one I was in for a brief amount of time before I got bored. Actually there
> > was a divorce group I was in, I think it is alt.support.divorce, and I
> > would be willing to converse with you there since you mentioned my
> > divorce again.
>
> I chose this group because it appears to be unused, except by spammers.
> We're not disrupting any established online communities or ongoing
> conversations by carrying on a discussion here. I don't want to subject any
> other groups to the endless back-and-forth you seem to crave.
>
> +VT
I do not crave your negative attention. I do not want to communicate
in a public newsgroup. I do not know who you are nor why you are
mocking that vladyka. This will conversation will draw observers. I do
not wish to converse with you in this manner. I also have a prayer
life and God also hears my prayers and I will continue to pray about
this conversation. Having this conversation in a public newsgroup is
against my will but I am complying with your will, consenting to your
jokes, tricks, negative attention, scorn, humiliation, ridicule,
persecution, mockery, abusive language and harshness.
Olympiada
Vladyka Ticken
>>> It is night here. I had a wonderful day at Church. I sang at the Divine
>>> Liturgy, the pannikhda for our archpriest emeritus that reposed 40 days
>>> ago tomorrow, enjoyed a wonderful fellowship luncheon, than went and
>>> sang at my dear friend's second wedding and then enjoyed a spectacular
>>> reception.
>>
>> SECOND wedding? What happened to the first? Did she get divorced? Did it
>> drive her to serious mental illness, as you claim is the fate for
>> Orthodox Christian women going through a divorce?
>>
> This is insane, whoever you are. This is not discreet public conduct.
> This will excite untoward comment. What are you doing?
You were the one who brought up the fact that it was your friend's second
wedding. You were also the one who wrote, "Dissolving an Orthodox Christian
marriage is a very serious affair and would make any Orthodox Christian
woman seriously mentally ill." So it's natural to ask whether your friend
is mentally ill, isn't it? After all, you said ANY OC woman would become
mentally ill if she got divorced. Were you lying?
>> I will not give you my e-mail address. You have abused that privilege in
>> the past; I won't have you flooding my Inbox with your manufactured
>> drama.
>>
> Yes I did and I will not tell you why in public. I would not do it
> again but you do not know that because you will not give me a second
> chance. I do not think it would be too hard for you to figure given
> what we discussed and your intelligence. I think you are refusing to
> examine the facts of the matter. If you were to look at what happened
> and the progression of events in my life you will see the explanation
> for my past behavior.
Are you trying to tell me that your behavior should be EXCUSED because of
your "explanation"? Are you trying to shrug off any kind of accountability?
Penance has failed. Excommunication has failed. How do you intend to save
your soul?
>> You *earned* the negative comments. If only you had not dragged my
>> comments into aue I would have remained aloof.
>
> I apologize, but I do not believe I named you in aue.
Those who read aue recognized what I wrote and informed me. You might as
well have named me, for the recognition that I got.
> I do not crave your negative attention. I do not want to communicate
> in a public newsgroup. I do not know who you are nor why you are
> mocking that vladyka. This will conversation will draw observers. I do
> not wish to converse with you in this manner. I also have a prayer
> life and God also hears my prayers and I will continue to pray about
> this conversation. Having this conversation in a public newsgroup is
> against my will but I am complying with your will, consenting to your
> jokes, tricks, negative attention, scorn, humiliation, ridicule,
> persecution, mockery, abusive language and harshness.
I doubt that this conversation will draw observers, at least not in the near
term. Who would follow? Huey? +TC? What do you think will be disclosed here
that they don't already know? And given the nature of this group, I think
you can at least be assured that nobody will accuse you of posting
off-topic.
+VT
AOK
wrote:
> auty wrote:
> >>> It is night here. I had a wonderful day at Church. I sang at the Divine
> >>> Liturgy, the pannikhda for our archpriest emeritus that reposed 40 days
> >>> ago tomorrow, enjoyed a wonderful fellowship luncheon, than went and
> >>> sang at my dear friend's second wedding and then enjoyed a spectacular
> >>> reception.
>
> >> SECOND wedding? What happened to the first? Did she get divorced? Did it
> >> drive her to serious mental illness, as you claim is the fate for
> >> Orthodox Christian women going through a divorce?
>
> > This is insane, whoever you are. This is not discreet public conduct.
> > This will excite untoward comment. What are you doing?
>
> You were the one who brought up the fact that it was your friend's second
> wedding. You were also the one who wrote, "Dissolving an Orthodox Christian
> marriage is a very serious affair and would make any Orthodox Christian
> woman seriously mentally ill." So it's natural to ask whether your friend
> is mentally ill, isn't it? After all, you said ANY OC woman would become
> mentally ill if she got divorced. Were you lying?
>
It is an interfaith marriage. Now I have a question for you. I have
just spoken to two Catholic friends and can not get a satisfactory
answer. I was not married in the canonical OC church. I was received
as a married woman into the canonical OC church. Did that make my
marriage OC or not?
I am not a liar. I apparently can not communicate very well on the
web, meaning in a public newsgroup.
I also was being rhetorical. I will not discuss my mental health in
this public newsgroup with you. If you wish to discuss it with me then
take it to private email and I will discuss it with you there, under
personal confidentiality.
> >> I will not give you my e-mail address. You have abused that privilege in
> >> the past; I won't have you flooding my Inbox with your manufactured
> >> drama.
>
> > Yes I did and I will not tell you why in public. I would not do it
> > again but you do not know that because you will not give me a second
> > chance. I do not think it would be too hard for you to figure given
> > what we discussed and your intelligence. I think you are refusing to
> > examine the facts of the matter. If you were to look at what happened
> > and the progression of events in my life you will see the explanation
> > for my past behavior.
>
> Are you trying to tell me that your behavior should be EXCUSED because of
> your "explanation"? Are you trying to shrug off any kind of accountability?
> Penance has failed. Excommunication has failed. How do you intend to save
> your soul?
>
I am telling you that there is a reason for my behavior and I will not
explain it in this public newsgroup, I will explain it in private
email in personal confidentiality. I am accountable, however there is
a very real reason why I acted the way I did at this exact same time
last year and why I can respect your limit at this time this year. I
would not write to you during the Fast if you allowed me to write to
you in private again. I would do whatever you asked of me, believe it
or not. I came here for you, despite the scornful humiliation it has
caused me to feel. My compliance with your simple request should
indicate my very real repentance. I have excommunicated myself, I have
not received communion in three weeks due to my inability to get to
confession due to my parent responsibilities. I will not discuss this
further in this public newsgroup but only in private email under
obtained personal confidentiality. I am asking for a personally
confidential private email correspondence with you. This is not
discreet behavior for a devout Orthodox Christian mother to be
engaging in and you know that.
> >> You *earned* the negative comments. If only you had not dragged my
> >> comments into aue I would have remained aloof.
>
> > I apologize, but I do not believe I named you in aue.
>
> Those who read aue recognized what I wrote and informed me. You might as
> well have named me, for the recognition that I got.
>
How could they have informed you when you do not have a valid email
address? I said I am sorry. This is not an appropriate venue for our
long term back and forth, it belongs in private personally
confidential email and the public knows that and says so. Listen to
the people, they are right this time.
> > I do not crave your negative attention. I do not want to communicate
> > in a public newsgroup. I do not know who you are nor why you are
> > mocking that vladyka. This will conversation will draw observers. I do
> > not wish to converse with you in this manner. I also have a prayer
> > life and God also hears my prayers and I will continue to pray about
> > this conversation. Having this conversation in a public newsgroup is
> > against my will but I am complying with your will, consenting to your
> > jokes, tricks, negative attention, scorn, humiliation, ridicule,
> > persecution, mockery, abusive language and harshness.
>
> I doubt that this conversation will draw observers, at least not in the near
> term. Who would follow? Huey? +TC? What do you think will be disclosed here
> that they don't already know? And given the nature of this group, I think
> you can at least be assured that nobody will accuse you of posting
> off-topic.
>
> +VT
There is a lot they do not know. I do not want to correspond with you
in this public newsgroup. I want personally confidential private
email. You do not even name your devout Coptic mother woman friend in
public and you shame and scorn and embarrass and humiliate me and
ridicule and persecute me publicly. I am asking you to please stop and
give me another chance to prove myself to you although I do not think
a woman should have to prove herself to a man and for all I know you
could be playing a joke and a trick on me and be a woman.
I do not want to deal with Huey, truly clooful, or Lin. Believe me,
they will come. They stalk me and they troll me. And you know that is
the truth. Treat me with the dignity and respect you know is due to
me. Huey wants to get my ISP yanked when he is the troll. If you care
about me at all and want to communicate with me at all then you will
give me what I am rightfully asking for: personally confidential
private email communication.
This is an incredible violation of my boundaries and I wish you to
stop and act like a decent gentleman, if you are indeed a man.
And don't concern yourself with my soul. I told you I am struggling
with my prior atheism. My soul is my problem and not your problem.
Whether or not I go to heaven or hell is my business and not your
business.
Olympiada
Vladyka Ticken
> I was not married in the canonical OC church. I was received
> as a married woman into the canonical OC church. Did that make my
> marriage OC or not?
No, it was not. That doesn't necessarily affect your standing in the Church,
but it means that your daughter's entry into the Church is more difficult.
> I am telling you that there is a reason for my behavior and I will not
> explain it in this public newsgroup, I will explain it in private
> email in personal confidentiality. I am accountable, however there is
> a very real reason why I acted the way I did at this exact same time
> last year and why I can respect your limit at this time this year. I
> would not write to you during the Fast if you allowed me to write to
> you in private again. I would do whatever you asked of me, believe it
> or not. I came here for you, despite the scornful humiliation it has
> caused me to feel. My compliance with your simple request should
> indicate my very real repentance. I have excommunicated myself, I have
> not received communion in three weeks due to my inability to get to
> confession due to my parent responsibilities. I will not discuss this
> further in this public newsgroup but only in private email under
> obtained personal confidentiality. I am asking for a personally
> confidential private email correspondence with you. This is not
> discreet behavior for a devout Orthodox Christian mother to be
> engaging in and you know that.
On the contrary, this is the PERFECT forum for communication between us. I
reiterate, I will not disclose my personal e-mail address to you. A
clandestine correspondence leads to accusations of an inappropriate
relationship -- and haven't you done enough of that already?
>> Those who read aue recognized what I wrote and informed me. You might as
>> well have named me, for the recognition that I got.
>>
> How could they have informed you when you do not have a valid email
> address?
Of course I have a valid e-mail address! I merely choose not to reveal it to
all and sundry. The people who informed me are known to me personally, and I
have entrusted them with my e-mail address. None of THEM have abused it.
> This is not an appropriate venue for our long term back and forth, it
> belongs in private personally confidential email and the public knows that
> and says so. Listen to the people, they are right this time.
As I wrote earlier, this is the perfect venue. Our conversation is not
off-topic here. This is exactly the kind of conversation this newsgroup was
created to support.
> There is a lot they do not know. I do not want to correspond with you
> in this public newsgroup. I want personally confidential private
> email. You do not even name your devout Coptic mother woman friend in
> public and you shame and scorn and embarrass and humiliate me and
> ridicule and persecute me publicly.
You will not get private e-mail from me. I am willing to discuss the Coptic
woman here, but would knowing the details really make you feel better? Think
carefully before answering; knowledge can harm as well as help -- and
remember the Fruit of the Tree in the Garden which led to the Fall.
> I am asking you to please stop and give me another chance to prove myself
> to you although I do not think a woman should have to prove herself to a
> man and for all I know you could be playing a joke and a trick on me and
> be a woman.
What do you think you could do to "prove" yourself?
> I do not want to deal with Huey, truly clooful, or Lin. Believe me,
> they will come. They stalk me and they troll me. And you know that is
> the truth. Treat me with the dignity and respect you know is due to
> me. Huey wants to get my ISP yanked when he is the troll. If you care
> about me at all and want to communicate with me at all then you will
> give me what I am rightfully asking for: personally confidential
> private email communication.
Do not attempt to wheedle or extort favors from me by saying, "if you care
about me." I have told you that I will not conduct a secret correspondence
with you, and my word on that is final. If you BEHAVE yourself in this
forum, I see no foothold that could be gained by the ones you mention. If
they "troll" you, simply filter them.
> This is an incredible violation of my boundaries and I wish you to
> stop and act like a decent gentleman, if you are indeed a man.
> And don't concern yourself with my soul. I told you I am struggling
> with my prior atheism. My soul is my problem and not your problem.
> Whether or not I go to heaven or hell is my business and not your
> business.
A public conversation in no way violates your boundaries. YOU are pushing
the boundaries by asking for my private e-mail address. That's just as
inappropriate as asking for my Social Security Number or my percentage of
body fat. Ask as you are compelled, but I have no intention of giving you
the information you request.
+VT
AOK
> auty wrote:
>
>
>> I was not married in the canonical OC church. I was received
>> as a married woman into the canonical OC church. Did that make my
>> marriage OC or not?
>>
>
>
> No, it was not. That doesn't necessarily affect your standing in the Church,
> but it means that your daughter's entry into the Church is more difficult.
>
for my future? My daughter got baptized the day after we got chrismated.
We got chrismated on her 38th day of life. She was baptized into the OC
church. It says so on her baptismal certificate.
>
>
>
>> I am telling you that there is a reason for my behavior and I will not
>> explain it in this public newsgroup, I will explain it in private
>> email in personal confidentiality. I am accountable, however there is
>> a very real reason why I acted the way I did at this exact same time
>> last year and why I can respect your limit at this time this year. I
>> would not write to you during the Fast if you allowed me to write to
>> you in private again. I would do whatever you asked of me, believe it
>> or not. I came here for you, despite the scornful humiliation it has
>> caused me to feel. My compliance with your simple request should
>> indicate my very real repentance. I have excommunicated myself, I have
>> not received communion in three weeks due to my inability to get to
>> confession due to my parent responsibilities. I will not discuss this
>> further in this public newsgroup but only in private email under
>> obtained personal confidentiality. I am asking for a personally
>> confidential private email correspondence with you. This is not
>> discreet behavior for a devout Orthodox Christian mother to be
>> engaging in and you know that.
>>
>
>
> On the contrary, this is the PERFECT forum for communication between us. I
> reiterate, I will not disclose my personal e-mail address to you. A
> clandestine correspondence leads to accusations of an inappropriate
> relationship -- and haven't you done enough of that already?
>
private personal confidential correspondence, not a clandestine one. I
apologize for accusing you of an inappropriate relationship. It was a
false accusation and an unChristian thing to do. I told you I was
struggling with my Christianity and I meant it and mean it. I do not
wish to have a relationship with you in a public newsgroup, I am sorry.
It is not worth it to my future nor my daughter's. I don't want our
relationship archived for the public. It is shameful and humiliating and
disgraceful and indiscreet and excites incredible amounts of untoward
comment to relate like this. I would rather have no relationship than a
relationship in a public newsgroup with archives. I am sure you can find
many more women who would be happy to oblige you in this kind of
mockery, ridicule and persecution.
>
>
>
>>> Those who read aue recognized what I wrote and informed me. You might as
>>> well have named me, for the recognition that I got.
>>>
>>>
>> How could they have informed you when you do not have a valid email
>> address?
>>
>
>
> Of course I have a valid e-mail address! I merely choose not to reveal it to
> all and sundry. The people who informed me are known to me personally, and I
> have entrusted them with my e-mail address. None of THEM have abused it.
>
this, ok? I don't want this exposure. You have plenty of known people
that you trust. Stick with the winners. Stick with the people who treat
you right. You can't go wrong with that.
>
>
>
>> This is not an appropriate venue for our long term back and forth, it
>> belongs in private personally confidential email and the public knows that
>> and says so. Listen to the people, they are right this time.
>>
>
> As I wrote earlier, this is the perfect venue. Our conversation is not
> off-topic here. This is exactly the kind of conversation this newsgroup was
> created to support.
>
>
that you know and trust.
>
>
>> There is a lot they do not know. I do not want to correspond with you
>> in this public newsgroup. I want personally confidential private
>> email. You do not even name your devout Coptic mother woman friend in
>> public and you shame and scorn and embarrass and humiliate me and
>> ridicule and persecute me publicly.
>>
>
>
> You will not get private e-mail from me. I am willing to discuss the Coptic
> woman here, but would knowing the details really make you feel better? Think
> carefully before answering; knowledge can harm as well as help -- and
> remember the Fruit of the Tree in the Garden which led to the Fall.
>
mine. I don't know who you are and I don't want to know. Enjoy your
company and be happy with it, and stop making allusions.
>
>
>
>> I am asking you to please stop and give me another chance to prove myself
>> to you although I do not think a woman should have to prove herself to a
>> man and for all I know you could be playing a joke and a trick on me and
>> be a woman.
>>
>
>
> What do you think you could do to "prove" yourself?
>
ungraceful. I could show you that when you asked me not to write to you
during the Fast I won't but I do not wish to carry on this public
archived correspondence. I would rather not communicate with you then
you communicate like this. Contrary to your false accusations, I am a
modest and chaste woman. I will repeat myself, I like your devout Coptic
mother woman friend, am a devout Russian Orthodox mother, but you are
not my man friend.
>
>
>
>> I do not want to deal with Huey, truly clooful, or Lin. Believe me,
>> they will come. They stalk me and they troll me. And you know that is
>> the truth. Treat me with the dignity and respect you know is due to
>> me. Huey wants to get my ISP yanked when he is the troll. If you care
>> about me at all and want to communicate with me at all then you will
>> give me what I am rightfully asking for: personally confidential
>> private email communication.
>>
>
>
> Do not attempt to wheedle or extort favors from me by saying, "if you care
> about me." I have told you that I will not conduct a secret correspondence
> with you, and my word on that is final. If you BEHAVE yourself in this
> forum, I see no foothold that could be gained by the ones you mention. If
> they "troll" you, simply filter them.
>
not proper behavior for a woman to be corresponding in a public forum
with someone she has an intimate connection with it.
>
>
>
>> This is an incredible violation of my boundaries and I wish you to
>> stop and act like a decent gentleman, if you are indeed a man.
>> And don't concern yourself with my soul. I told you I am struggling
>> with my prior atheism. My soul is my problem and not your problem.
>> Whether or not I go to heaven or hell is my business and not your
>> business.
>>
>
>
> A public conversation in no way violates your boundaries. YOU are pushing
> the boundaries by asking for my private e-mail address. That's just as
> inappropriate as asking for my Social Security Number or my percentage of
> body fat. Ask as you are compelled, but I have no intention of giving you
> the information you request.
>
>
> +VT
>
>
>
archived conversation. I have no idea who you are. I am tired of the
intimations and insinuations you make and the allusions. It is too much.
You don't need me. Go your way and enjoy your night and the rest of your
life without me. Good bye.
Olympiada
Vladyka Ticken
> So I did not have an Orthodox Christian marriage. What does that mean for
> my future? My daughter got baptized the day after we got chrismated. We
> got chrismated on her 38th day of life. She was baptized into the OC
> church. It says so on her baptismal certificate.
Did the priest perform the Rite of Rivnoplaskaya, as required for children
born outside the church? If so, then your daughter is part of the Church.
> I asked for a private personal confidential correspondence, not a
> clandestine one.
To an auditor and to the general public, they are both secret
correspondences. Open forums are the only permissible means of communication
between us.
> I do not wish to have a relationship with you in a public newsgroup, I am
> sorry. It is not worth it to my future nor my daughter's. I don't want our
> relationship archived for the public. It is shameful and humiliating and
> disgraceful and indiscreet and excites incredible amounts of untoward
> comment to relate like this. I would rather have no relationship than a
> relationship in a public newsgroup with archives.
What exactly do you think COULD take place here, to generate such adverse
publicity? Were you intent on expressing undying love for me? The public
nature of this forum protects and inhibits us from that kind of thing.
By contrast, if we were carrying on the kind of correspondence you request,
there could be hideous impropriety, and *that* would generate the kind of
gossip you're trying to avoid.
> I am sure you can find many more women who would be happy to oblige you in
> this kind of mockery, ridicule and persecution.
Please point out where I have mocked, ridiculed, or persecuted you in this
forum. This is the ONLY forum where your posts have not been grossly
off-topic and therefore deserving of castigation.
> Well I do not wish to engage it in anymore. I hope you enjoy the people
> that you know and trust.
Indeed I do; I cherish them with every breath. And if one of them happens to
be a Coptic woman, I thank God for the blessings I receive.
> I will repeat myself, I like your devout Coptic mother woman friend, am a
> devout Russian Orthodox mother, but you are not my man friend.
Of course I am not! Didn't I make that clear when I wrote, "Your anatomy is
of no concern to me"?
> I do not want to be in a public forum, don't you understand that? It is
> not proper behavior for a woman to be corresponding in a public forum with
> someone she has an intimate connection with it.
NOW you're worrying about "proper behavior"? Why weren't you worrying about
it a month ago? Furthermore, we do NOT have an intimate connection. You are
wishing for something that is not there, and never was.
+VT
AOK
> auty wrote:
>
>
>> So I did not have an Orthodox Christian marriage. What does that mean for
>> my future? My daughter got baptized the day after we got chrismated. We
>> got chrismated on her 38th day of life. She was baptized into the OC
>> church. It says so on her baptismal certificate.
>>
>
>
> Did the priest perform the Rite of Rivnoplaskaya, as required for children
> born outside the church? If so, then your daughter is part of the Church.
>
>
>
>
>> I asked for a private personal confidential correspondence, not a
>> clandestine one.
>>
>
>
> To an auditor and to the general public, they are both secret
> correspondences. Open forums are the only permissible means of communication
> between us.
>
>
private personal confidential correspondence. I do not wish to
communicate with you in a public newsgroup. It is very indiscreet and I
repeat, it will attract untoward comment. I have already attracted
another denizen of s.s.b.b. who also joined femconnexion. I do not want
to deal with her either. You have no respect for me.
>
>
>> I do not wish to have a relationship with you in a public newsgroup, I am
>> sorry. It is not worth it to my future nor my daughter's. I don't want our
>> relationship archived for the public. It is shameful and humiliating and
>> disgraceful and indiscreet and excites incredible amounts of untoward
>> comment to relate like this. I would rather have no relationship than a
>> relationship in a public newsgroup with archives.
>>
>
>
> What exactly do you think COULD take place here, to generate such adverse
> publicity? Were you intent on expressing undying love for me? The public
> nature of this forum protects and inhibits us from that kind of thing.
>
> By contrast, if we were carrying on the kind of correspondence you request,
> there could be hideous impropriety, and *that* would generate the kind of
> gossip you're trying to avoid.
>
recognition. I do not even know who you are. I am conversing with a
total stranger and this is absolutely insane. I don't act improperly in
private personal correspondence. A private personal correspondence would
generate no gossip because no body would know about it.
>
>
>
>> I am sure you can find many more women who would be happy to oblige you in
>> this kind of mockery, ridicule and persecution.
>>
>
>
> Please point out where I have mocked, ridiculed, or persecuted you in this
> forum. This is the ONLY forum where your posts have not been grossly
> off-topic and therefore deserving of castigation.
>
>
mental masturbation with you in a public newsgroup with archives. That
is very degrading and humiliating. Like I said, I am sure you can find
plenty of perverted women who would be happy to engage you in this
puerile activity. I don't like the open nature of Usenet. Anyone can
join at any time. There are no moderators, no owners, no semi-privacy.
This is unwanted public exposure for me.
>
>
>> Well I do not wish to engage it in anymore. I hope you enjoy the people
>> that you know and trust.
>>
>
>
> Indeed I do; I cherish them with every breath. And if one of them happens to
> be a Coptic woman, I thank God for the blessings I receive.
>
thank God for the blessings you receive, be on your way and leave me alone.
>
>
>
>> I will repeat myself, I like your devout Coptic mother woman friend, am a
>> devout Russian Orthodox mother, but you are not my man friend.
>>
>
>
> Of course I am not! Didn't I make that clear when I wrote, "Your anatomy is
> of no concern to me"?
>
>
I can't give you what you want. Go away.
>
>
>> I do not want to be in a public forum, don't you understand that? It is
>> not proper behavior for a woman to be corresponding in a public forum with
>> someone she has an intimate connection with it.
>>
>
>
> NOW you're worrying about "proper behavior"? Why weren't you worrying about
> it a month ago? Furthermore, we do NOT have an intimate connection. You are
> wishing for something that is not there, and never was.
>
>
> +VT
>
>
>
value intimacy. And my wishes are not your concern.
Olympiada
coyote
> On Feb 11, 8:51 pm, "Vladyka Ticken" <amkemail2006-goo...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> > auty wrote:
> > >>> It is night here. I had a wonderful day at Church. I sang at the Divine
> > >>> Liturgy, the pannikhda for our archpriest emeritus that reposed 40 days
> > >>> ago tomorrow, enjoyed a wonderful fellowship luncheon, than went and
> > >>> sang at my dear friend's second wedding and then enjoyed a spectacular
> > >>> reception.
>
> > >> SECOND wedding? What happened to the first? Did she get divorced? Did it
> > >> drive her to serious mental illness, as you claim is the fate for
> > >> Orthodox Christian women going through a divorce?
>
> > > This is insane, whoever you are. This is not discreet public conduct.
> > > This will excite untoward comment. What are you doing?
You of all people want someone else to be pleasant, discreet, and
gracious? to *you*?
> > You were the one who brought up the fact that it was your friend's second
> > wedding. You were also the one who wrote, "Dissolving an Orthodox Christian
> > marriage is a very serious affair and would make any Orthodox Christian
> > woman seriously mentally ill."
Have you got a cite for that assertion? Clearly it made YOU mentally
ill, but it seems unlikely that it would work that way across the
board.
> I am not a liar. I apparently can not communicate very well on the
> web, meaning in a public newsgroup.
Define "liar"?
> I also was being rhetorical.
Define "rhetorical"?
> > >> I will not give you my e-mail address. You have abused that privilege in
> > >> the past; I won't have you flooding my Inbox with your manufactured
> > >> drama.
>
> > > Yes I did and I will not tell you why in public.
And yet you claimed that you never abused *anyone's* email address!
Fascinating to watch how your claims vary from group to group...
>>> I would not do it
> > > again but you do not know that because you will not give me a second
> > > chance.
Do you seriously think you are talking to the real Bishop? STILL? Oh,
no, wait, you're being sarcastic and ironic, and you are playing along
with his joke. I forgot.
>
> > Are you trying to tell me that your behavior should be EXCUSED because of
> > your "explanation"? Are you trying to shrug off any kind of accountability?
> > Penance has failed. Excommunication has failed. How do you intend to save
> > your soul?
>
> I am telling you that there is a reason for my behavior and I will not
> explain it in this public newsgroup, I will explain it in private
> email in personal confidentiality. I am accountable, however there is
> a very real reason why I acted the way I did at this exact same time
> last year and why I can respect your limit at this time this year. I
> would not write to you during the Fast if you allowed me to write to
> you in private again. I would do whatever you asked of me, believe it
> or not. I came here for you, despite the scornful humiliation it has
> caused me to feel.
Again, you think this is Tikhon you are talking to?
> > well have named me, for the recognition that I got.
>
> How could they have informed you when you do not have a valid email
> address? I said I am sorry. This is not an appropriate venue for our
> long term back and forth, it belongs in private personally
> confidential email and the public knows that and says so. Listen to
> the people, they are right this time.
No, this is a perfect venue. It isnt off topic, and provides so much
fun for the peanut gallery...
> > > I do not crave your negative attention. I do not want to communicate
> > > in a public newsgroup. I do not know who you are nor why you are
> > > mocking that vladyka. This will conversation will draw observers. I do
> > > not wish to converse with you in this manner. I also have a prayer
> > > life and God also hears my prayers and I will continue to pray about
> > > this conversation. Having this conversation in a public newsgroup is
> > > against my will but I am complying with your will, consenting to your
> > > jokes, tricks, negative attention, scorn, humiliation, ridicule,
> > > persecution, mockery, abusive language and harshness.
"God also hears my prayers"? Um...who else is listening?
> > I doubt that this conversation will draw observers, at least not in the near
> > term. Who would follow? Huey? +TC?
Oh, I dunno. People find her awfully funny.
> >What do you think will be disclosed here
> > that they don't already know? And given the nature of this group, I think
> > you can at least be assured that nobody will accuse you of posting
> > off-topic.
>
> > +VT
>
> There is a lot they do not know. I do not want to correspond with you
> in this public newsgroup. I want personally confidential private
> email. You do not even name your devout Coptic mother woman friend in
> public and you shame and scorn and embarrass and humiliate me and
> ridicule and persecute me publicly.
Hi, Tikhon, you old goat, you!
>I am asking you to please stop and
> give me another chance to prove myself to you although I do not think
> a woman should have to prove herself to a man and for all I know you
> could be playing a joke and a trick on me and be a woman.
And yet...you address this person as though s/he really IS Tikhon.
Logical fallacy, anyone?
> I do not want to deal with Huey, truly clooful, or Lin. Believe me,
> they will come.
Probably. Baiting you is a participation sport. You know how to make
it stop, but you choose not to, so one can draw the conclusion that
you do not actually want to.
>They stalk me and they troll me. And you know that is
> the truth. Treat me with the dignity and respect you know is due to
> me. Huey wants to get my ISP yanked when he is the troll.
He isnt a troll! He is a soul-murderer! And he STINKS! Get it right!
>If you care
> about me at all and want to communicate with me at all then you will
> give me what I am rightfully asking for: personally confidential
> private email communication.
> This is an incredible violation of my boundaries and I wish you to
> stop and act like a decent gentleman, if you are indeed a man.
> And don't concern yourself with my soul. I told you I am struggling
> with my prior atheism. My soul is my problem and not your problem.
> Whether or not I go to heaven or hell is my business and not your
> business.
So why do you always concern yourself with the souls of others? Hm? I
just know Huey is frantically looking for someone to confess to, so
that he doesnt murder his own soul by mocking you. I *know* it.
~coyote
coyote
>
> That comment in itself is a form of mockery. I do not wish to engage in
> mental masturbation with you in a public newsgroup with archives. That
> is very degrading and humiliating. Like I said, I am sure you can find
> plenty of perverted women who would be happy to engage you in this
> puerile activity. I don't like the open nature of Usenet. Anyone can
> join at any time. There are no moderators, no owners, no semi-privacy.
> This is unwanted public exposure for me.
So...um...why are you ON USENET THEN?
~coyote
AOK
>
>
> Do you seriously think you are talking to the real Bishop? STILL? Oh,
> no, wait, you're being sarcastic and ironic, and you are playing along
> with his joke. I forgot.
>
here and someone needs to hold him accountable. They are enjoying sick
pleasure from this.
>
>
>
>
>>> I doubt that this conversation will draw observers, at least not in the near
>>> term. Who would follow? Huey? +TC?
>>>
>
> Oh, I dunno. People find her awfully funny.
>
>
>
Olympiada
>
>
TyMeDwn1st
wrote:
>I will not give you my e-mail address. You have abused that privilege in the
>past; I won't have you flooding my Inbox with your manufactured drama.
So was it the 1500 emails you originally claimed, or was it the five that
Atlanta originally owned up to, or some number in between?
--
Ty
Who is mostly just a
slightly skewed
Donna Reed
It is easier to fight for one’s principles than to live up to them.
- Alfred Adler
AOK
> On 11 Feb 2007 21:04:02 -0600, "Vladyka Ticken" <amkemail2...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>> I will not give you my e-mail address. You have abused that privilege in the
>> past; I won't have you flooding my Inbox with your manufactured drama.
>>
>
> So was it the 1500 emails you originally claimed, or was it the five that
> Atlanta originally owned up to, or some number in between?
>
>
However, I may go and count the messages I sent to vladyka, the messages
he sent to me, the number of messages I sent him per day and vice versa,
and how our friendship rose and fell. That way when Bob Terwilliger
hurls another vile accusation against me, I will have the precise truth
to defend me from his allegation.
What a tragedy. I messed up yes, and vladyka *slammed* the iron gates
in my face. No repentance for vladyka, he doesn't give a damn. How sad.
It was enjoyable while it lasted. Too bad he doesn't believe in second
chances. I do and will always accept him back should he ever leave his
cave again.
So did you mail my priest? He has had the flu. I hope you did not cause
him to catch it. Cheesefare week is now upon us, and Lent shall begin
next week.
And my name is Olympiada not Atlanta. I am no longer an atheist, I am a
Christian and have a Christian name: Olympiada.
Olympiada
coyote
I meant YOU. How about answering my other questions?
-coyote
AOK
will say my evening prayers and see if I should. I will think about it.
You are right, people do find me funny. And not in the way you think.
You lack the Orthodox frame of reference to get my humor, so you
denigrate it instead.
Why don't you be more clear in your writing and not address me in the
third person. That's gossip. Here you are gossiping about me right in
front of my face. Despicable.
Olympiada
coyote
> coyote wrote:
> > On Feb 12, 10:54 pm, AOK <amkemail2006-goo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >> coyote wrote:
>
> >>> Do you seriously think you are talking to the real Bishop? STILL? Oh,
> >>> no, wait, you're being sarcastic and ironic, and you are playing along
> >>> with his joke. I forgot.
>
> >> Vladyka Ticken is Bob Terwilliger. He and his girlfriend have chased me
> >> here and someone needs to hold him accountable. They are enjoying sick
> >> pleasure from this.
>
> >>>>> I doubt that this conversation will draw observers, at least not in the near
> >>>>> term. Who would follow? Huey? +TC?
>
> >>> Oh, I dunno. People find her awfully funny.
>
> >> Yes. I know she is a woman. I already figured that out on my own.
>
> > I meant YOU. How about answering my other questions?
>
> > -coyote
>
> Why should I answer them? This is a public newsgroup with archives. I
> will say my evening prayers and see if I should. I will think about it.
What harm is there in explaining your definitions of the words I asked
about?
> You are right, people do find me funny. And not in the way you think.
> You lack the Orthodox frame of reference to get my humor, so you
> denigrate it instead.
> Why don't you be more clear in your writing and not address me in the
> third person. That's gossip. Here you are gossiping about me right in
> front of my face. Despicable.
> Olympiada
Reading comprehension issues again? I did not address you in the third
person. I was talking ABOUT you TO the OP. Im not gossiping, you silly
girl, look that one up too. Im mocking you, yes. However, I do not
know anything about you that you youself did not tell the world. I
dont see any assertions in my post that constitute gossip.
*snrk* gossip is rarely done in front of the person in question. Now,
the conversations I have about you with other people, offline? THAT IS
GOSSIP.
~coyote
Bob Terwilliger
> Vladyka Ticken is Bob Terwilliger. He and his girlfriend have chased me
> here and someone needs to hold him accountable. They are enjoying sick
> pleasure from this.
I admit that I'm' getting GREAT pleasure from this. This afternoon Lin told
me that you had exactly ONE post for the bulk of the day, so I Googled your
question to alt.religion.christian.russian-orthodox:
+ Can someone tell me what the 'Rite of Rivnoplaskaya' is? A google search
+ for it and a free translation of it turns up nothing.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Oh, you've been had, but good.
>> Oh, I dunno. People find her awfully funny.
>>
> Yes. I know she is a woman. I already figured that out on my own.
Coyote was talking about YOU in that sentence. YOU are "awfully funny." Who
did you think coyote was talking about?
+Bob
Bob Terwilliger
>> I will not give you my e-mail address. You have abused that privilege in
>> the
>> past; I won't have you flooding my Inbox with your manufactured drama.
>
> So was it the 1500 emails you originally claimed, or was it the five that
> Atlanta originally owned up to, or some number in between?
Actually, it was a total shot in the dark. I estimate about a 99%
probability that Whack-Job wrote copious e-mails to the real Bishop Vladyka
Tikhon (Fitzgerald), OCA, so I simply put my speculation forward as if it
were an established fact, and she 'fessed right up.
I'm still laughing about how she bit on "Rite of Rivnoplaskaya."
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
(Oh, my sides...)
HAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA!....
Bob
AOK
> Whack-Job wrote:
>
>
>> Vladyka Ticken is Bob Terwilliger. He and his girlfriend have chased me
>> here and someone needs to hold him accountable. They are enjoying sick
>> pleasure from this.
>>
>
>
> I admit that I'm' getting GREAT pleasure from this. This afternoon Lin told
> me that you had exactly ONE post for the bulk of the day, so I Googled your
> question to alt.religion.christian.russian-orthodox:
>
> + Can someone tell me what the 'Rite of Rivnoplaskaya' is? A google search
> + for it and a free translation of it turns up nothing.
>
> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
>
> Oh, you've been had, but good.
>
>
>
>
>
Looking at it, yes it looks ridiculous. Then again, a lot of stuff in
Church Slavonic is unfamiliar to me, especially when it is written in
Cyrillic. Have you ever read a Slavonic service book? I didn't think so.
Guess what? Its not my problem that you are getting sick pleasure from
impersonating a bishop. That's your problem. I followed through, and
learned the truth. Nothing wrong with that either. I don't make
assumptions.
Two separate people have warned me about you. I wish vladyka would hold
you accountable for your sickness. He should. He could. I would like him
to. You deserve to get a scathing email from him.
And if coyote wants to gossip about me off line that's also her problem.
As I stated, a single act of gossip could destroy someone's life or
murder someone spiritually. Gossip used to be an unforgivable sin until
the rite of Confession was established.
Back to your made up rite. I am such a doubtful skeptic that even after
I asked our in house scholar I had to keep looking. Now that you have
admitted it, I can let it go. However, the Orthodox world and the
Christian world are going to know about you and they are not going to
like you, I can assure you of that. If your intention is to alienate the
Orthodox world and the Christian world, you shall accomplish that goal
pretty fast.
I am sure there are better things for you to do with your time than
harass me. And I will not be answering any more questions. You have
shown your character to be quite foul.
>
>
coyote
wrote:
Y'know, reading the more priceless excerpts of her posts to one
another while cackling madly has become a routine evening pastime for
a certain someone and I.
As we were going to bed last night, I made some observation about
something he did just before getting in bed, and he came back with
"ARE YOU SCRUTINIZING ME?!". After I stopped laughing I told him to
stop being defamatory, harrassing, and ungracious, and that if he held
quite still, I might consent to INVESTIGATE HIM...IYKWIM, AIKTYD.
It is perfectly astonishing how much entertainment she affords us. Id
be sorry if her ISP revoked her access, honestly. Where would I get my
daily laugh?
~coyote
AOK
Orthodox Forum and oca.org and find out how amusing it is for us to be
scrutinized, defamed, and investigated. Perhaps you might want to learn
just exactly how entertaining we find that to be.
I am glad you can admit that you and your certain someone are mad,
because you are right, you are quite mad.
Bob Terwilliger
> Two separate people have warned me about you. I wish vladyka would hold
> you accountable for your sickness. He should. He could. I would like him
> to. You deserve to get a scathing email from him.
Yeah... if only he had a VALID E-MAIL ADDRESS for me!
> You have shown your character to be quite foul.
How very judgmental of you!
+Bob
Bob Terwilliger
> As we were going to bed last night, I made some observation about
> something he did just before getting in bed, and he came back with
> "ARE YOU SCRUTINIZING ME?!". After I stopped laughing I told him to
> stop being defamatory, harrassing, and ungracious, and that if he held
> quite still, I might consent to INVESTIGATE HIM...IYKWIM, AIKTYD.
Y,ID... Sometimes Lin and I scrutinize, and sometimes we're inscrutable, but
usually we just scru.
+Bob
AOK
> Whack-Job wrote:
>
>
>> Two separate people have warned me about you. I wish vladyka would hold
>> you accountable for your sickness. He should. He could. I would like him
>> to. You deserve to get a scathing email from him.
>>
>
> Yeah... if only he had a VALID E-MAIL ADDRESS for me!
>
is just a farce. As I said you are very fortunate that he does not
choose to report your abuse.You owe him a huge apology. You should write
to him and beg his forgiveness.
I also asked you a question: did you write to me anonymously, meaning
not in your name, in private email?
>
>
>
>> You have shown your character to be quite foul.
>>
>
> How very judgmental of you!
>
>
> +Bob
>
>
>
Actually I am reporting to you what two anonymous strangers told me
about you. You are a mean troll, a sick person, and you cause really
nasty unpleasantness to people and you are known for that. You are
attempting to chase me off Usenet. I am choosing to confront you because
I can. Others choose not to. I am not speaking for myself alone. That is
why I have the strength to speak to you directly. The lurkers do support
me in email, its true.
I feel sorry for you that you and your girlfriend get some kind of sick
pleasure by imitating vladyka, I really really do. He is a far superior
human being to both of you and you will never ever reach his spiritual
status and power.
Olympiada
coyote
"Us"? "US"? Again, I was talking about YOU. I was mocking YOU. I dont
care about your silly Church. I never even knew it existed until you
came blathering your nonsense all over my backyard. You have a habit
of using words repetetively, incorrectly and out of context, or at
minimum in ways that sound stilted and awkward.
You also seem to assume that everyone that is mocking you is
SCRUTINIZING YOU *because* you are OCA. Nothing could be further from
the truth, Atlanta, its all about you, not the Church.
You are just an awful lot of fun to play with, thats all. When you
arent driving people batshit, anyway.
~coyote
coyote
>
> And if coyote wants to gossip about me off line that's also her problem.
> As I stated, a single act of gossip could destroy someone's life or
> murder someone spiritually. Gossip used to be an unforgivable sin until
> the rite of Confession was established.
*snrk* that would require someone to believe such things, and I do
not. Im not a member of your Church; my soul, if indeed I have one, is
just fine - thank you for your concern.
As to "gossip"? It very much depends on which of the definitions you
are using. Im going with "a chatty talk", since all the personal
details I know about you were revealed BY YOU in a public place. It is
hardly as though I were taking secrets you told me in confidence and
spreading them around. I just get a kick out of telling people about
this crank on Usenet I know, and encourage them to go check you out. A
number of them have, and have thanked me for the laugh.
Any life-destroying is entirely at your own doorstep, Atlanta, since
you are the one who revealed *everything* we know, online, in a public
forum that is archived for ...ever. The fact that such information
tends to take on a life of its own is something you should have
thought of before spilling your life-story all over the internet.
~coyote
AOK
>
>
>
> "Us"? "US"? Again, I was talking about YOU. I was mocking YOU. I dont
> care about your silly Church. I never even knew it existed until you
> came blathering your nonsense all over my backyard. You have a habit
> of using words repetetively, incorrectly and out of context, or at
> minimum in ways that sound stilted and awkward.
>
> You also seem to assume that everyone that is mocking you is
> SCRUTINIZING YOU *because* you are OCA. Nothing could be further from
> the truth, Atlanta, its all about you, not the Church.
>
> You are just an awful lot of fun to play with, thats all. When you
> arent driving people batshit, anyway.
>
> ~coyote
>
>
extension of my church and my church has authority over me in return. I
have a habit of using as few words as possible as to avoid
misunderstanding. There are unfriendly eyes all over Usenet and I have
come under their scrutiny. Your backyard came *much* later in the game.
I still want to know who asked me to write there for them and why. I
tend to be obedient in order to find out the truth. I usually get what I
want: the truth. I am still waiting for a confirmation of the truth on
that one. I am a very skeptical and doubtful person and the person who
requested I write there for them needs to know that. I do not know if
that person is reading this group or not.
You are right, I am very persistent and forceful. I don't like being
played with, nor lied to, and I do persist after the Truth.
My name is Olympiada to you, not Atlanta.
I would like permission to post a message to your backward regarding my
Golden Quotes site for it has appeared there, in a quote that mentions
Troia by name. The same person has tracked me from
alt.religion.christian.east-orthodox to soc.subculture.bondage-bdsm
through a variety of Yahoo groups. I sent that Golden Quotes link to a
friend in Internet Security and she gave me a lot of links to try and
track that person down. I would rather have them come forth. That person
has made me unwelcome and dishonored in both Usenet groups they have
pulled my quotes from and that person is toxic to me. I want and need to
know who they are. They have ignored my emails. I have my hunches as to
their identity and I want them confirmed. It is a Russian or a Russian
Orthodox. You have my permission to forward this to Troia if you like or
invite her here. I know she is interested in that web link.
You may also invite truly clooful here and all those who have accused me
of shaming my church. S/he is the most vocal of my critics. Or you may
forward this message to s/he. I won't. S/he has ignored my email as well.
Perhaps s/he is the editor of Golden Quotes. Who knows.
Olympiada
AOK
>
>
> Any life-destroying is entirely at your own doorstep, Atlanta, since
> you are the one who revealed *everything* we know, online, in a public
> forum that is archived for ...ever. The fact that such information
> tends to take on a life of its own is something you should have
> thought of before spilling your life-story all over the internet.
>
> ~coyote
>
>
begging to be my friends and to connect with me elsewhere and I am
*ignoring* them. I wrote in your backyard because someone asked me to
and I enjoy being compliant. I am still waiting for that person to
confirm their identity with me.
You are responsible for your gossip and your gossip destroys my life.
There is no getting around that. There are millions of people who write
about their life on the Internet and you choose to gossip about mine.
You have no personal accountability what so ever. It is you who are the
liar coyote. Deal with it.
Aren't you interested to know who asked me to write for them in your
backyard? I would think that would be of primary interest to you.
Olympiada
Lynn
> If you mock me, you mock my church. I am joined to my Church, an
> extension of my church and my church has authority over me in return.
Well, if you mock me, you mock my dry cleaner. I'm joined to my dry
cleaner, they have my favorite sweater.
> My name is Olympiada to you, not Atlanta.
Sorry, Atlanta, you don't get to dictate how other people speak.
>
> I would like permission to post a message to your backward
Coyote, do you have a backward? I have a backward, too. I also have
an icon. And a screwdriver.
Lynn
coyote
> coyote wrote:
>
> > "Us"? "US"? Again, I was talking about YOU. I was mocking YOU. I dont
> > care about your silly Church. I never even knew it existed until you
> > came blathering your nonsense all over my backyard. You have a habit
> > of using words repetetively, incorrectly and out of context, or at
> > minimum in ways that sound stilted and awkward.
>
> > You also seem to assume that everyone that is mocking you is
> > SCRUTINIZING YOU *because* you are OCA. Nothing could be further from
> > the truth, Atlanta, its all about you, not the Church.
>
> > You are just an awful lot of fun to play with, thats all. When you
> > arent driving people batshit, anyway.
>
> > ~coyote
>
> If you mock me, you mock my church.
In your eyes, perhaps, but not in mine.
> I am joined to my Church, an
> extension of my church and my church has authority over me in return. I
> have a habit of using as few words as possible as to avoid
> misunderstanding.
That effort is failing. You are constantly misunderstood. Perhaps more
words?
>There are unfriendly eyes all over Usenet and I have
> come under their scrutiny. Your backyard came *much* later in the game.
> I still want to know who asked me to write there for them and why. I
> tend to be obedient in order to find out the truth.
I have no idea who that was.
> I usually get what I
> want: the truth. I am still waiting for a confirmation of the truth on
> that one. I am a very skeptical and doubtful person and the person who
> requested I write there for them needs to know that. I do not know if
> that person is reading this group or not.
You seem awfully gullible to me.
> You are right, I am very persistent and forceful. I don't like being
> played with, nor lied to, and I do persist after the Truth.
I never said you were persistent and forceful. I said you were amusing
when not driving people batshit.
> My name is Olympiada to you, not Atlanta.
No, not to me. I am not part of your Church, Atlanta.
> I would like permission to post a message to your backward regarding my
> Golden Quotes site for it has appeared there, in a quote that mentions
> Troia by name.
Which backward do you mean, exactly?
>The same person has tracked me from
> alt.religion.christian.east-orthodox to soc.subculture.bondage-bdsm
> through a variety of Yahoo groups. I sent that Golden Quotes link to a
> friend in Internet Security and she gave me a lot of links to try and
> track that person down. I would rather have them come forth. That person
> has made me unwelcome and dishonored
I rather think YOU made yourself unwelcome and dishonoured.
>in both Usenet groups they have
> pulled my quotes from and that person is toxic to me. I want and need to
> know who they are. They have ignored my emails. I have my hunches as to
> their identity and I want them confirmed. It is a Russian or a Russian
> Orthodox. You have my permission to forward this to Troia if you like or
> invite her here. I know she is interested in that web link.
Troia can find her own way around Usenet. If she wants to come here,
she will.
> You may also invite truly clooful here and all those who have accused me
> of shaming my church. S/he is the most vocal of my critics. Or you may
> forward this message to s/he. I won't. S/he has ignored my email as well.
I dont know who the person you are referring to is.
~coyote
coyote
> coyote wrote:
>
> > Any life-destroying is entirely at your own doorstep, Atlanta, since
> > you are the one who revealed *everything* we know, online, in a public
> > forum that is archived for ...ever. The fact that such information
> > tends to take on a life of its own is something you should have
> > thought of before spilling your life-story all over the internet.
>
> > ~coyote
>
> Why should I be ashamed of my life story? I am not. I have people
> begging to be my friends and to connect with me elsewhere and I am
> *ignoring* them. I wrote in your backyard because someone asked me to
> and I enjoy being compliant. I am still waiting for that person to
> confirm their identity with me.
If you are not ashamed of it, why do you keep asking people to not
talk about it?
> You are responsible for your gossip and your gossip destroys my life.
How?
> There is no getting around that. There are millions of people who write
> about their life on the Internet and you choose to gossip about mine.
You have no idea who else I choose to talk about.
> You have no personal accountability what so ever. It is you who are the
> liar coyote. Deal with it.
Define "personal accountability"?
> Aren't you interested to know who asked me to write for them in your
> backyard? I would think that would be of primary interest to you.
Nope. I dont care, Atlanta. That matters pretty much only to you. What
matters to me is that you are here, providing amusement to me on a
snowy day.
~coyote
AOK
> On Feb 13, 9:31�am, AOK <amkemail2006-goo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>> If you mock me, you �mock my church. I am joined to my Church, an
>> extension of my church and my church has authority over me in return.
>>
>
> Well, if you mock me, you mock my dry cleaner. I'm joined to my dry
> cleaner, they have my favorite sweater.
>
yourself into an idol. Good going Lynn. That's a sin.
I see you can't get enough of me and you have to chase me here. Glad to
oblige you.
Olympiada
>
>
coyote
> On Feb 13, 9:31?am, AOK <amkemail2006-goo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > If you mock me, you ?mock my church. I am joined to my Church, an
> > extension of my church and my church has authority over me in return.
>
> Well, if you mock me, you mock my dry cleaner. I'm joined to my dry
> cleaner, they have my favorite sweater.
And if you mock me, you mock my dog! Im joined to my dog, she has my
favorite blanket. She is here, laughing right along with me.
> > My name is Olympiada to you, not Atlanta.
>
> Sorry, Atlanta, you don't get to dictate how other people speak.
>
>
>
> > I would like permission to post a message to your backward
>
> Coyote, do you have a backward? I have a backward, too. I also have
> an icon. And a screwdriver.
I have a backward or two, yes, and a backdoor, which is frequently
invaded with the help of lube.
A screwdriver? Nice of you to offer, but its too early to be
drinking. :)
~coyote
AOK
> On Feb 13, 12:31 pm, AOK <amkemail2006-goo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> coyote wrote:
>>
>>
>>> "Us"? "US"? Again, I was talking about YOU. I was mocking YOU. I dont
>>> care about your silly Church. I never even knew it existed until you
>>> came blathering your nonsense all over my backyard. You have a habit
>>> of using words repetetively, incorrectly and out of context, or at
>>> minimum in ways that sound stilted and awkward.
>>>
>>> You also seem to assume that everyone that is mocking you is
>>> SCRUTINIZING YOU *because* you are OCA. Nothing could be further from
>>> the truth, Atlanta, its all about you, not the Church.
>>>
>>> You are just an awful lot of fun to play with, thats all. When you
>>> arent driving people batshit, anyway.
>>>
>>> ~coyote
>>>
>> If you mock me, you mock my church.
>>
>
> In your eyes, perhaps, but not in mine.
>
extension of the Church whether or not I like it.
>
>> I am joined to my Church, an
>> extension of my church and my church has authority over me in return. I
>> have a habit of using as few words as possible as to avoid
>> misunderstanding.
>>
>
> That effort is failing. You are constantly misunderstood. Perhaps more
> words?
>
>
>> There are unfriendly eyes all over Usenet and I have
>> come under their scrutiny. Your backyard came *much* later in the game.
>> I still want to know who asked me to write there for them and why. I
>> tend to be obedient in order to find out the truth.
>>
>
> I have no idea who that was.
>
back ward? I would think you would.
>
>> I usually get what I
>> want: the truth. I am still waiting for a confirmation of the truth on
>> that one. I am a very skeptical and doubtful person and the person who
>> requested I write there for them needs to know that. I do not know if
>> that person is reading this group or not.
>>
>
> You seem awfully gullible to me.
>
way, a wanderer and a loner.
>
>> You are right, I am very persistent and forceful. I don't like being
>> played with, nor lied to, and I do persist after the Truth.
>>
>
> I never said you were persistent and forceful. I said you were amusing
> when not driving people batshit.
>
personality.I know its forceful. You don't know me. That's obvious.
Anyone who knows me knows I am persistent and forceful. You are laughing
at your own reflection in the fun house mirror.
>
>
>
>> The same person has tracked me from
>> alt.religion.christian.east-orthodox to soc.subculture.bondage-bdsm
>> through a variety of Yahoo groups. I sent that Golden Quotes link to a
>> friend in Internet Security and she gave me a lot of links to try and
>> track that person down. I would rather have them come forth. That person
>> has made me unwelcome and dishonored
>>
>
> I rather think YOU made yourself unwelcome and dishonoured.
>
know otherwise.I have been made unwelcome and dishonored by my editor
and I want to know who that is and I will find out.
>
>> in both Usenet groups they have
>> pulled my quotes from and that person is toxic to me. I want and need to
>> know who they are. They have ignored my emails. I have my hunches as to
>> their identity and I want them confirmed. It is a Russian or a Russian
>> Orthodox. You have my permission to forward this to Troia if you like or
>> invite her here. I know she is interested in that web link.
>>
>
> Troia can find her own way around Usenet. If she wants to come here,
> she will.
>
requests it but not here only in alt.religion.christian.east-orthodox or
your backyard.
>> You may also invite truly clooful here and all those who have accused me
>> of shaming my church. S/he is the most vocal of my critics. Or you may
>> forward this message to s/he. I won't. S/he has ignored my email as well.
>>
>
> I dont know who the person you are referring to is.
>
> ~coyote
>
Olympiada
AOK
> On Feb 13, 12:45 pm, AOK <amkemail2006-goo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> coyote wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Any life-destroying is entirely at your own doorstep, Atlanta, since
>>> you are the one who revealed *everything* we know, online, in a public
>>> forum that is archived for ...ever. The fact that such information
>>> tends to take on a life of its own is something you should have
>>> thought of before spilling your life-story all over the internet.
>>>
>>> ~coyote
>>>
>> Why should I be ashamed of my life story? I am not. I have people
>> begging to be my friends and to connect with me elsewhere and I am
>> *ignoring* them. I wrote in your backyard because someone asked me to
>> and I enjoy being compliant. I am still waiting for that person to
>> confirm their identity with me.
>>
>
> If you are not ashamed of it, why do you keep asking people to not
> talk about it?
>
>
>> You are responsible for your gossip and your gossip destroys my life.
>>
>
> How?
>
is falsehood and lies gives some a false bad reputation. I know. I have
been the target of gossip for ever and a year. The man who started the
gossip mill writes in another Usenet group. Some think he is truly
clooful, others think he is the editor of Golden Quotes. I am his dirty
little secret in some people's eyes.
>
>> There is no getting around that. There are millions of people who write
>> about their life on the Internet and you choose to gossip about mine.
>>
>
> You have no idea who else I choose to talk about.
>
>
>> You have no personal accountability what so ever. It is you who are the
>> liar coyote. Deal with it.
>>
>
> Define "personal accountability"?
>
against another person. You deny responsibility for it.
>
>> Aren't you interested to know who asked me to write for them in your
>> backyard? I would think that would be of primary interest to you.
>>
>
> Nope. I dont care, Atlanta. That matters pretty much only to you. What
> matters to me is that you are here, providing amusement to me on a
> snowy day.
>
> ~coyote
>
>
backyard. You are full of empty vanity and have nothing of worth to
offer the public.
Olympiada
Lynn
>
> >> If you mock me, you ?mock my church. I am joined to my Church, an
> >> extension of my church and my church has authority over me in return.
>
> > Well, if you mock me, you mock my dry cleaner. I'm joined to my dry
> > cleaner, they have my favorite sweater.
>
> Really? Your dry cleaner is your place of worship? So you have made
> yourself into an idol. Good going Lynn. That's a sin.
>
> I see you can't get enough of me and you have to chase me here. Glad to
> oblige you.
I't like picking at a scab.
Lynn
Lynn
> > > If you mock me, you ?mock my church. I am joined to my Church, an
> > > extension of my church and my church has authority over me in return.
>
> > Well, if you mock me, you mock my dry cleaner. I'm joined to my dry
> > cleaner, they have my favorite sweater.
>
> And if you mock me, you mock my dog! Im joined to my dog, she has my
> favorite blanket. She is here, laughing right along with me.
Smart dog!
>
> > Coyote, do you have a backward? I have a backward, too. I also have
> > an icon. And a screwdriver.
>
> I have a backward or two, yes, and a backdoor, which is frequently
> invaded with the help of lube.
>
> A screwdriver? Nice of you to offer, but its too early to be
> drinking. :)
It helps make Atlanta make sense.
Lynn
AOK
AOK
view, I live in this world, and am not of it. I am striving to take
Kingdom of Heaven by force. I chose to reject the Roman Catholic faith
of my mother and adopt the Russian Orthodox faith. It has been said I
would have made a good Roman Catholic saint. My mother has said I am
like Joan of Arc. And I have been told by a hybrid bishop, not my
retired one, that Crusade is a way for Christians. My maternal
grandfather gave me a Crusade button. That is my path like it or not.
Stay out of my way Lynn.
Olympiada
coyote
Youre doing it again, Atlanta, and after you SWORE you were gone from
SSBB for good.
~coyote
AOK
>
>
> Youre doing it again, Atlanta, and after you SWORE you were gone from
> SSBB for good.
>
> ~coyote
>
your backyard. You stop gossiping about me and my daughter in a
murderous and destructive fashion and I will stop playing in your
backyard. You continue to gossip about me in a destructive and murderous
manner in your backyard and I will continue to monitor your
conversations and let you know you are lying. It is my reputation you
are seeking to harm. There is no reason for you to gossip about a devout
Russian Orthodox mother and her daughter and her church and her retired
bishop in a BDSM group at all. I told you it was a mistake for me to
join. Now you have to admit that it was a mistake for you to gossip
about me, for the whole group to gossip about me. I want to enter into
Pure Week with this behind me.
I am neither trolling nor off topic. I have admitted my posting there
was spam because I should not be a part of the BDSM community. Now I am
discussing my spam. I am making my amends. Will you make yours?
Olympiada
Bob Terwilliger
> No ~coyote, you are doing it by gossiping about me and my daughter in your
> backyard. You stop gossiping about me and my daughter in a murderous and
> destructive fashion and I will stop playing in your backyard. You continue
> to gossip about me in a destructive and murderous manner in your backyard
> and I will continue to monitor your conversations and let you know you are
> lying. It is my reputation you are seeking to harm. There is no reason for
> you to gossip about a devout Russian Orthodox mother and her daughter and
> her church and her retired bishop in a BDSM group at all. I told you it
> was a mistake for me to join. Now you have to admit that it was a mistake
> for you to gossip about me, for the whole group to gossip about me. I want
> to enter into Pure Week with this behind me.
> I am neither trolling nor off topic. I have admitted my posting there was
> spam because I should not be a part of the BDSM community. Now I am
> discussing my spam. I am making my amends. Will you make yours?
You are SUCH A STUPID CUNT!
The answer has been given to you time and again, and you IGNORE it, while
wailing about your predicament!
It's very simple: All you have to do is SHUT THE FUCK UP.
Why doesn't that sink in with you?
Bob
Bob Terwilliger
> If you mock me, you mock my church. I am joined to my Church, an
> extension of my church and my church has authority over me in return.
That is just plain false. You have no authority to represent your church. Do
you? Shall I call your parish priest and ask him, and direct him to this
conversation so he can verify the truth of what I say?
> I have a habit of using as few words as possible as to avoid
> misunderstanding.
You LIE! "As few words as possible" would involve your NOT writing on
Usenet at all.
> My name is Olympiada to you, not Atlanta.
*guffaw*
So what are you going to DO about it, Whack-Job?
+Bob
Bob Terwilliger
> I am striving to take Kingdom of Heaven by force.
You and SATAN!
NOW it all becomes clear!
I think your parish priest needs to hear about this one, too
+Bob
AOK
>
>
>
> You are SUCH A STUPID CUNT!
>
> The answer has been given to you time and again, and you IGNORE it, while
> wailing about your predicament!
>
> It's very simple: All you have to do is SHUT THE FUCK UP.
>
> Why doesn't that sink in with you?
>
>
> Bob
>
>
>
December and January. I will not be silent if you gossip about me and my
daughter in a murderous and destructive fashion.I will defend her and my
name. Stop gossiping about me and I will stop talking. You are a misogynist.
I am not wailing. I am fighting back.
I am impervious to your misogyny. I will not allow it to sink in.
Olympiada
Lynn
> Stay out of my way Lynn.
Or what, Atlanta?
Lynn
AOK
> Whack-Job wrote:
>
>
>> If you mock me, you mock my church. I am joined to my Church, an
>> extension of my church and my church has authority over me in return.
>>
>
> That is just plain false. You have no authority to represent your church. Do
> you? Shall I call your parish priest and ask him, and direct him to this
> conversation so he can verify the truth of what I say?
>
Church for all eternity on my Golden Quotes site so that wherever I go I
will be seen as an excommunicate of my retired bishop and his diocese.
My parish priest's parish office telephone is busy. I just tried to call
myself.
My parish priest is not interested in this conversation. You started it
by directing me here. I asked you a question: did you write to me under
another name in email at amkemail2006-bdsm@... in December and January.
Tell the truth.
>
>
>
>> I have a habit of using as few words as possible as to avoid
>> misunderstanding.
>>
>
> You LIE! "As few words as possible" would involve your NOT writing on
> Usenet at all.
>
>
silencing me?
>
>
>
You are a misogynist and your girlfriend curries to your misogyny. She
is no feminist.
Olympiada
>
>
>
AOK
take it by force. My parish priest needs to hear about nothing. I asked
you a question: did you write to me under another name in December and
January. Answer my question. You are a nasty and unpleasant person and
you and your girlfriend are getting a sick pleasure from this and
someone needs to hold you accountable.
I need to know the truth from you so I can make a choice about Usenet.
Yes or No?
Olympiada
coyote
I think you need to look up the definition of "gossip", Atlanta. My
only remark was to note that the spam uptick started around the same
time the AUK trolls followed you to SSBB. I also later posted an
acknowledgement that was I had been incorrect in that statement.
Reading comprehension issues again?
~coyote
coyote
>
> You are a misogynist and your girlfriend curries to your misogyny. She
> is no feminist.
> Olympiada
Mmm, curried misogyny. Tasty!
~coyote
(free clue: that word does not mean what you seem to think it means)
coyote
> coyote wrote:
> > On Feb 13, 12:31 pm, AOK <amkemail2006-goo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >> coyote wrote:
>
> >>> "Us"? "US"? Again, I was talking about YOU. I was mocking YOU. I dont
> >>> care about your silly Church. I never even knew it existed until you
> >>> came blathering your nonsense all over my backyard. You have a habit
> >>> of using words repetetively, incorrectly and out of context, or at
> >>> minimum in ways that sound stilted and awkward.
>
> >>> You also seem to assume that everyone that is mocking you is
> >>> SCRUTINIZING YOU *because* you are OCA. Nothing could be further from
> >>> the truth, Atlanta, its all about you, not the Church.
>
> >>> You are just an awful lot of fun to play with, thats all. When you
> >>> arent driving people batshit, anyway.
>
> >>> ~coyote
>
> >> If you mock me, you mock my church.
>
> > In your eyes, perhaps, but not in mine.
>
> That is the truth, coyote, whether or not you like it. I am seen as an
> extension of the Church whether or not I like it.
Not by us, darlin' puddin'.
>
> >> I am joined to my Church, an
> >> extension of my church and my church has authority over me in return. I
> >> have a habit of using as few words as possible as to avoid
> >> misunderstanding.
>
> > That effort is failing. You are constantly misunderstood. Perhaps more
> > words?
>
> >> There are unfriendly eyes all over Usenet and I have
> >> come under their scrutiny. Your backyard came *much* later in the game.
> >> I still want to know who asked me to write there for them and why. I
> >> tend to be obedient in order to find out the truth.
>
> > I have no idea who that was.
>
> Well would you like to know who was responsible for leading me into your
> back ward? I would think you would.
Dont care. What would I do with that information, assuming I could
even verify it?
> >> I usually get what I
> >> want: the truth. I am still waiting for a confirmation of the truth on
> >> that one. I am a very skeptical and doubtful person and the person who
> >> requested I write there for them needs to know that. I do not know if
> >> that person is reading this group or not.
>
> > You seem awfully gullible to me.
>
> Really? I am a seeker, I seek to know the truth. I have always been that
> way, a wanderer and a loner.
Yes, really. Gullible to such an extent that it threatens to redefine
the word.
> >> You are right, I am very persistent and forceful. I don't like being
> >> played with, nor lied to, and I do persist after the Truth.
>
> > I never said you were persistent and forceful. I said you were amusing
> > when not driving people batshit.
>
> Driving. Driving takes persistence and force. I know my own
> personality.I know its forceful. You don't know me. That's obvious.
> Anyone who knows me knows I am persistent and forceful. You are laughing
> at your own reflection in the fun house mirror.
So you are persistent and forceful, and you apply it to pissing off a
large number of people you dont even know, on the Internet? Useful
application of your driving energies. Really. Im impressed.
Oddly enough, your forcefulness has totally failed to intimidate
anyone thus far. Perhaps, not so forceful? Id say that power lies in
getting results, not in impotently screaming at people in ascii,
making demands on perfect strangers that you have no control over, and
menacing them with "now you will see my forcefulness!". Er...how? What
did you think you could do?
> >> The same person has tracked me from
> >> alt.religion.christian.east-orthodox to soc.subculture.bondage-bdsm
> >> through a variety of Yahoo groups. I sent that Golden Quotes link to a
> >> friend in Internet Security and she gave me a lot of links to try and
> >> track that person down. I would rather have them come forth. That person
> >> has made me unwelcome and dishonored
>
> > I rather think YOU made yourself unwelcome and dishonoured.
>
> That's your opinion. Those who know me and have known me for a LONG time
> know otherwise.I have been made unwelcome and dishonored by my editor
> and I want to know who that is and I will find out.
Yes, that is in fact my opinion, and one that is shared by many. I
many not know you offline, but that is not what counts in this world.
What counts here on Usenet is how you have presented yourself ONLINE,
and that presentation has been frankly laughable.
> She did want to know that site. And I will give her the address if she
> requests it but not here only in alt.religion.christian.east-orthodox or
> your backyard.
> > > You may also invite truly clooful here and all those who have accused me
> > > of shaming my church. S/he is the most vocal of my critics. Or you may
> > > forward this message to s/he. I won't. S/he has ignored my email as well.
>
> > I dont know who the person you are referring to is.
>
> > ~coyote
>
> I am talking about truly clooful.
> Olympiada
So why are you browbeating Bob in an attempt to make him confess to
something you just told me you believe +TC did?
~coyote
AOK
clooful if s/he emailed me in January and February. I have dropped the
subject. It was not Bob.
Olympiada
TyMeDwn1st
wrote:
>Ty challenged:
>
>>> I will not give you my e-mail address. You have abused that privilege in
>>> the
>>> past; I won't have you flooding my Inbox with your manufactured drama.
>>
>> So was it the 1500 emails you originally claimed, or was it the five that
>> Atlanta originally owned up to, or some number in between?
>
>
>Actually, it was a total shot in the dark. I estimate about a 99%
>probability that Whack-Job wrote copious e-mails to the real Bishop Vladyka
>Tikhon (Fitzgerald), OCA, so I simply put my speculation forward as if it
>were an established fact, and she 'fessed right up.
>
>I'm still laughing about how she bit on "Rite of Rivnoplaskaya."
>
>BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
>
>(Oh, my sides...)
>
>HAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA!....
You're an asshole, Bob.
--
Ty
Who is mostly just a
slightly skewed
Donna Reed
It is easier to fight for one’s principles than to live up to them.
- Alfred Adler
TyMeDwn1st
>On Feb 13, 1:13 am, "Bob Terwilliger" <virtualgoth@die_spammer.biz>
>wrote:
>> Ty challenged:
>>
>> >> I will not give you my e-mail address. You have abused that privilege in
>> >> the
>> >> past; I won't have you flooding my Inbox with your manufactured drama.
>>
>> > So was it the 1500 emails you originally claimed, or was it the five that
>> > Atlanta originally owned up to, or some number in between?
>>
>> Actually, it was a total shot in the dark. I estimate about a 99%
>> probability that Whack-Job wrote copious e-mails to the real Bishop Vladyka
>> Tikhon (Fitzgerald), OCA, so I simply put my speculation forward as if it
>> were an established fact, and she 'fessed right up.
>>
>> I'm still laughing about how she bit on "Rite ofRivnoplaskaya."
>>
>> BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
>>
>> (Oh, my sides...)
>>
>> HAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA!....
>>
>> Bob
>
>
>Y'know, reading the more priceless excerpts of her posts to one
>another while cackling madly has become a routine evening pastime for
>a certain someone and I.
>
>As we were going to bed last night, I made some observation about
>something he did just before getting in bed, and he came back with
>"ARE YOU SCRUTINIZING ME?!". After I stopped laughing I told him to
>stop being defamatory, harrassing, and ungracious, and that if he held
>quite still, I might consent to INVESTIGATE HIM...IYKWIM, AIKTYD.
>
>It is perfectly astonishing how much entertainment she affords us. Id
>be sorry if her ISP revoked her access, honestly. Where would I get my
>daily laugh?
That's okay. The phrase of the day around here often includes asking if we still
have the binders.
TyMeDwn1st
>On Feb 13, 9:31?am, AOK <amkemail2006-goo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> If you mock me, you -ock my church. I am joined to my Church, an
>> extension of my church and my church has authority over me in return.
>
>Well, if you mock me, you mock my dry cleaner. I'm joined to my dry
>cleaner, they have my favorite sweater.
>
>> My name is Olympiada to you, not Atlanta.
>
>Sorry, Atlanta, you don't get to dictate how other people speak.
>>
>> I would like permission to post a message to your backward
>
>Coyote, do you have a backward? I have a backward, too. I also have
>an icon. And a screwdriver.
I have binders. Lots of binders. Keeping them dusted is hard work. Hard work.
That's what we do, we dust.
Oh, wait. Never mind. I started channeling the wrong nutcase for a moment
there. Sorry.
TyMeDwn1st
>On Feb 13, 12:31 pm, AOK <amkemail2006-goo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> coyote wrote:
<snippage>
>> I usually get what I
>> want: the truth. I am still waiting for a confirmation of the truth on
>> that one. I am a very skeptical and doubtful person and the person who
>> requested I write there for them needs to know that. I do not know if
>> that person is reading this group or not.
>
>You seem awfully gullible to me.
Did you know that "gullible" is not in ANY online dictionary?
>> You are right, I am very persistent and forceful. I don't like being
>> played with, nor lied to, and I do persist after the Truth.
>
>I never said you were persistent and forceful. I said you were amusing
>when not driving people batshit.
She's amusing at all times, actually, and she's remarkably unsuccessful at
driving people batshit. She does have a fairly high nuisance rating, rather
like one of those little tiny moths that flits in front of my monitor every now
and then, but beyond that pfffft! all sound and fury, no sense, no reality.
AOK
Nothing Lynn. I can't win. You will continue to gossip about me. Ty
will continue to forward my posts to my ISP. I will continue to report
her abusive harassment. Its not worth. I can't stop you from gossiping
about me. Ty calls a PISS on me and then continues to talk about me,
allows the group to talk about me, and forwards my posts to my ISP
when I defend my self and my daughter. Its just not worth it. I have
far better places to spend my time. I am sorry for bringing all this
drama to Usenet which is most definitely *not* a safe place. I wish
everyone would just stop gossiping about me. You all chased me here
because you just couldn't stop yourselves. Exercise some self
discipline, would you? I have done what I can to try and stop the
gossip and I can not. It simply is not worth my time. I have made some
good friends on Usenet, especially my most recent one, she knows who
she is and I thank her from the bottom of my heart for her wise
kindness.
Perhaps one day I will find a group I can tolerate that is not
hostile. One that is stoic *and* respectful. Until then, forget it.
Olympiada
coyote
> On Feb 13, 3:05 pm, "Lynn" <sockerm...@aol.com> wrote:
>> On Feb 13, 12:49?pm, AOK <amkemail2006-goo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Stay out of my way Lynn.
>> Or what, Atlanta?
>>
>> Lynn
>
> Nothing Lynn. I can't win. You will continue to gossip about me. Ty
> will continue to forward my posts to my ISP. I will continue to report
> her abusive harassment. Its not worth. I can't stop you from gossiping
> about me. Ty calls a PISS on me and then continues to talk about me,
> allows the group to talk about me, and forwards my posts to my ISP
> when I defend my self and my daughter. Its just not worth it. I have
> far better places to spend my time. I am sorry for bringing all this
> drama to Usenet which is most definitely *not* a safe place. I wish
> everyone would just stop gossiping about me. You all chased me here
> because you just couldn't stop yourselves.
That would be because you are fun to bait. If you didnt rise to it like
a trout, reliably...it would not be nearly as much fun. People have been
giving you the solution to this for months now: stop posting the way you
do and people will stop mocking you.
Us pathetic creatures with no lives, family, careers or hobbies have
nothing better to do that chase you around, you know? You are THAT
important.
(Hint: *that's* an ironic statement)
> Exercise some self
> discipline, would you? I have done what I can to try and stop the
> gossip and I can not. It simply is not worth my time. I have made some
> good friends on Usenet, especially my most recent one, she knows who
> she is and I thank her from the bottom of my heart for her wise
> kindness.
> Perhaps one day I will find a group I can tolerate that is not
> hostile. One that is stoic *and* respectful. Until then, forget it.
> Olympiada
>
Lady, youre just not that interesting. If you go away, people will
forget about you in short order.
One thing Id like to point out to you is that other people dont get
talked about, or treated the way you do. Have you given any thought to
why? What is the difference between them and you? Why doesnt Usenet
"gossip" about me, about Ty, about Shirley, in spite of the facts that
we have published a good bit about our personal lives, over the years?
Hint: it has nothing to do with religion.
You do not have to answer that. Food for thought, as it were. If you
would like to have a *constructive* dialog about it, feel free to answer
in a reasonable fashion.
If you want to rant at me, Ill just mock you some more.
--
~coyote
AOK
> AOK wrote:
> > On Feb 13, 3:05 pm, "Lynn" <sockerm...@aol.com> wrote:
> >> On Feb 13, 12:49?pm, AOK <amkemail2006-goo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >>> Stay out of my way Lynn.
> >> Or what, Atlanta?
>
> >> Lynn
>
> > Nothing Lynn. I can't win. You will continue to gossip about me. Ty
> > will continue to forward my posts to my ISP. I will continue to report
> > her abusive harassment. Its not worth. I can't stop you from gossiping
> > about me. Ty calls a PISS on me and then continues to talk about me,
> > allows the group to talk about me, and forwards my posts to my ISP
> > when I defend my self and my daughter. Its just not worth it. I have
> > far better places to spend my time. I am sorry for bringing all this
> > drama to Usenet which is most definitely *not* a safe place. I wish
> > everyone would just stop gossiping about me. You all chased me here
> > because you just couldn't stop yourselves.
>
> That would be because you are fun to bait. If you didnt rise to it like
> a trout, reliably...it would not be nearly as much fun. People have been
> giving you the solution to this for months now: stop posting the way you
> do and people will stop mocking you.
>
matushkas out here. And the ones I know that do post on Yahoo or the
Indiana list have pretty fiery personalities themselves. This is the
harshest place of them all, coyote. I would introduce you to some of
my friends, those devout Orthodox Christian matushkas, but they have
better things to do with their time, like defend the real clergymen
that are under fire in places like the Orthodox Forum. You think this
is all a joke? Its not.
> Us pathetic creatures with no lives, family, careers or hobbies have
> nothing better to do that chase you around, you know? You are THAT
> important.
>
down?
> (Hint: *that's* an ironic statement)
>
> > Exercise some self
> > discipline, would you? I have done what I can to try and stop the
> > gossip and I can not. It simply is not worth my time. I have made some
> > good friends on Usenet, especially my most recent one, she knows who
> > she is and I thank her from the bottom of my heart for her wise
> > kindness.
> > Perhaps one day I will find a group I can tolerate that is not
> > hostile. One that is stoic *and* respectful. Until then, forget it.
> > Olympiada
>
> Lady, youre just not that interesting. If you go away, people will
> forget about you in short order.
>
chase me to a group called alt.masturbation.mental where Bob
Terwilliger got flushed out by a friend?
> One thing Id like to point out to you is that other people dont get
> talked about, or treated the way you do. Have you given any thought to
> why? What is the difference between them and you? Why doesnt Usenet
> "gossip" about me, about Ty, about Shirley, in spite of the facts that
> we have published a good bit about our personal lives, over the years?
>
> Hint: it has nothing to do with religion.
>
living in this world but not of it. You are. There is a fundamental
clash here, or alt.usage.english. The few devout people I run into on
alt.gothic or soc.subculture.bondage-bdsm get swayed by group
conscience and become unsafe themselves. And some of the devout ones I
meet on alt.religion.christian.east-orthodox have a different opinion
on bishopric celibacy and think their point of view is correct and
mine is not.
That is how it goes. It has everything to do with religion, for me.
Olympiada
huey.c...@gmail.com
> On Feb 13, 3:05 pm, "Lynn" <sockerm...@aol.com> wrote:
> > On Feb 13, 12:49?pm, AOK <amkemail2006-goo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > Stay out of my way Lynn.
> > Or what, Atlanta?
> > Lynn
> Nothing Lynn.
DINGDINGDINGDINGDING! Ladies and gentlemen: WE HAVE A WINNAH!
> I can't win.
That's correct! In fact, that's the first correct thing you've said.
YOU WIN! Because you... ...er, can't win. Sorry.
> You will continue to gossip about me.
That is also correct.
> Ty will continue to forward my posts to my ISP.
I dunno if that's correct or not, but the prosecution is willing to so
stipulate.
> I will continue to report her abusive harassment.
That's probably not true, though.
> Its not worth.
'it', I think. It's not worth 'it'.
> I can't stop you from gossiping about me.
Correct again! Hell, that's like, what, five times in one post now?
Man, those extension classes are FINALLY STARTING TO PAY OFF!
> Ty calls a PISS on me and then continues to talk about me,
> allows the group to talk about me, and forwards my posts to my ISP
> when I defend my self and my daughter. Its just not worth it. I have
> far better places to spend my time.
I certainly hope so. I'd start with the daughter, if I were you.
> I am sorry for bringing all this drama to Usenet which is most
> definitely *not* a safe place. I wish everyone would just stop
> gossiping about me. You all chased me here because you just couldn't
> stop yourselves.
You mentioned wanting to learn how to write ironically? Okay, here's a
hint: all of us posting to alt.masturbation.mental? That's irony.
...except for you, because you really are just here for the mental
masturbation. It's humor, but you probably don't get it, because it's at
your expense.
> Exercise some self discipline, would you?
That's also pretty funny, coming from you. You seem to lack the ability
to walk away from usenet, even when pretty much every sane person on it
has already made it abundantly clear that they're not terribly
interested in talking to you for very long.
> I have done what I can to try and stop the gossip and I can not.
You have not: you could leave, and it would all stop in relatively short
order.
> It simply is not worth my time. I have made some good friends on
> Usenet, especially my most recent one, she knows who she is and I
> thank her from the bottom of my heart for her wise kindness.
> Perhaps one day I will find a group I can tolerate that is not
> hostile. One that is stoic *and* respectful. Until then, forget it.
Don't let the door hit you in the ass, Spanky.
--
Huey
coyote
> On Feb 13, 6:52 pm, coyote <coyote-t...@covert-ops.org> wrote:
>> AOK wrote:
>>> On Feb 13, 3:05 pm, "Lynn" <sockerm...@aol.com> wrote:
>>>> On Feb 13, 12:49?pm, AOK <amkemail2006-goo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>> Stay out of my way Lynn.
>>>> Or what, Atlanta?
>>>> Lynn
>>> Nothing Lynn. I can't win. You will continue to gossip about me. Ty
>>> will continue to forward my posts to my ISP. I will continue to report
>>> her abusive harassment. Its not worth. I can't stop you from gossiping
>>> about me. Ty calls a PISS on me and then continues to talk about me,
>>> allows the group to talk about me, and forwards my posts to my ISP
>>> when I defend my self and my daughter. Its just not worth it. I have
>>> far better places to spend my time. I am sorry for bringing all this
>>> drama to Usenet which is most definitely *not* a safe place. I wish
>>> everyone would just stop gossiping about me. You all chased me here
>>> because you just couldn't stop yourselves.
>> That would be because you are fun to bait. If you didnt rise to it like
>> a trout, reliably...it would not be nearly as much fun. People have been
>> giving you the solution to this for months now: stop posting the way you
>> do and people will stop mocking you.
>>
> The way I do?
Yes, the way you do. Your posts are repetitive, and vary from the
hysterical to the vulgar, you attack people who are trying to help you,
and castigate those that dont try. You fill your posts with religious
nonsense everyone has told you they dont care about, and persisted in
doing it even after promising to stop.
"The way you do", yes. Exactly so.
> Like I said, I see no devout Orthodox Christian
> matushkas out here. And the ones I know that do post on Yahoo or the
> Indiana list have pretty fiery personalities themselves.
Then I would suggest, in the friendliest manner possible, that you go
post about your religious troubles THERE.
> This is the
> harshest place of them all, coyote. I would introduce you to some of
> my friends, those devout Orthodox Christian matushkas, but they have
> better things to do with their time, like defend the real clergymen
> that are under fire in places like the Orthodox Forum. You think this
> is all a joke?
All what? The exposure your Church is getting in the (real) press? No, I
dont think it is a joke. I think it is sad. I am talking about you, not
your Church, and you cannot seem to differentiate between the two. That
is not my problem, it is yours.
*sigh* I was trying to be reasonable and help you understand some
things, Atlanta. I guess I wasted my keystrokes.
>> Us pathetic creatures with no lives, family, careers or hobbies have
>> nothing better to do that chase you around, you know? You are THAT
>> important.
>>
> I am not? Then why do you spend so much time and energy putting me
> down?
>> (Hint: *that's* an ironic statement)
>>
> Do you honestly think I am that ignorant? I feel sorry for you.
Yes, I do. You have repeatedly demonstrated your lack of grasp of the
English language, and of "irony and sarcasm" in particular, or I would
not have asked you the (serious) question about English being your
second language.
Thank you for your pity. Ill file it in the same place I file the idiocy
I hear from my clients day in and day out: "What do you mean, I cant do
it that way? Ive been doing it that way all along!" "Yes, and look where
it got you. In big-ass trouble with some of the biggest ISPs out there"
"Yes, but Ive been doing it that way all along!" Lather, rinse, repeat.
>>> Exercise some self
>>> discipline, would you? I have done what I can to try and stop the
>>> gossip and I can not. It simply is not worth my time. I have made some
>>> good friends on Usenet, especially my most recent one, she knows who
>>> she is and I thank her from the bottom of my heart for her wise
>>> kindness.
>>> Perhaps one day I will find a group I can tolerate that is not
>>> hostile. One that is stoic *and* respectful. Until then, forget it.
>>> Olympiada
>> Lady, youre just not that interesting. If you go away, people will
>> forget about you in short order.
>>
> Really? But since I am here you can not help yourself and have to
> chase me to a group called alt.masturbation.mental where Bob
> Terwilliger got flushed out by a friend?
Im here because you amuse me. If you go away, I will find other sources
of amusement. Mark Ferguson is always a good target.
That does not change my assertion that if you go away, people will
forget about you relatively quickly - certainly in less than the 6-7
months youve been annoying them.
>> One thing Id like to point out to you is that other people dont get
>> talked about, or treated the way you do. Have you given any thought to
>> why? What is the difference between them and you? Why doesnt Usenet
>> "gossip" about me, about Ty, about Shirley, in spite of the facts that
>> we have published a good bit about our personal lives, over the years?
>>
> Because you all are atheists.
What? You might not believe this, lady, but in my 8 years on SSBB, noone
has EVER asked about my religious beliefs...or anyone else's for that
matter. Ive never mentioned it one way or another, so the fact that Im
an atheist (according to you) has exactly fuckall to do with it. Same
goes for Ty and Shirley.
*sigh* There goes the 747, zooming over your head again. Please, for the
love of...well, anything, try to open your mind and imagine for a moment
that religion doesnt matter as much to other people as it does to you.
Try to contemplate the idea that the reason I am not gossiped about has
to do with how I behave and treat other people, not my belief in God or
the lack of it. Try.
>> Hint: it has nothing to do with religion.
>>
> Did I say it did?
Yeah, you did, two sentences ago. Is your memory that short?
AOK: "Because you all are atheists."
> I have an Orthodox world view, you do not. I am
> living in this world but not of it. You are.
That is correct.
> There is a fundamental
> clash here, or alt.usage.english.
That is also correct. What you are leaving out is that people like me do
not like being evangelized at in our own backyards.
> The few devout people I run into on
> alt.gothic or soc.subculture.bondage-bdsm get swayed by group
> conscience and become unsafe themselves. And some of the devout ones I
> meet on alt.religion.christian.east-orthodox have a different opinion
> on bishopric celibacy and think their point of view is correct and
> mine is not.
That is indeed how people are. Not everyone agrees, and not everyone
agrees with *you*, and no amount of repetition is going to change that.
> That is how it goes. It has everything to do with religion, for me.
That has become abundantly clear. Equally clear is the fact that we
(TINW) are all abundantly tired of hearing it from you.
--
~coyote
AOK
> the vulgar,
I enjoy vulgarity.
> you attack people who are trying to help you,
> and castigate those that dont try.
> You fill your posts with religious nonsense everyone has told you they
> dont care about, and persisted in doing it even after promising to stop.
>
> "The way you do", yes. Exactly so.
>
>> Like I said, I see no devout Orthodox Christian
>> matushkas out here. And the ones I know that do post on Yahoo or the
>> Indiana list have pretty fiery personalities themselves.
>
> Then I would suggest, in the friendliest manner possible, that you go
> post about your religious troubles THERE.
>
>
>
>>> One thing Id like to point out to you is that other people dont get
>>> talked about, or treated the way you do. Have you given any thought to
>>> why? What is the difference between them and you? Why doesnt Usenet
>>> "gossip" about me, about Ty, about Shirley, in spite of the facts that
>>> we have published a good bit about our personal lives, over the years?
>>>
>> Because you all are atheists.
>
>
> What? You might not believe this, lady, but in my 8 years on SSBB,
> noone has EVER asked about my religious beliefs...or anyone else's for
> that matter. Ive never mentioned it one way or another, so the fact
> that Im an atheist (according to you) has exactly fuckall to do with
> it. Same goes for Ty and Shirley.
>
> *sigh* There goes the 747, zooming over your head again. Please, for
> the love of...well, anything, try to open your mind and imagine for a
> moment that religion doesnt matter as much to other people as it does
> to you. Try to contemplate the idea that the reason I am not gossiped
> about has to do with how I behave and treat other people, not my
> belief in God or the lack of it. Try.
>
>
>
>
>> There is a fundamental
>> clash here, or alt.usage.english.
>
> That is also correct. What you are leaving out is that people like me
> do not like being evangelized at in our own backyards.
have to own that.
>
>
>> That is how it goes. It has everything to do with religion, for me.
>
> That has become abundantly clear. Equally clear is the fact that we
> (TINW) are all abundantly tired of hearing it from you.
>
>
>
coyote
> coyote wrote:
>> the vulgar,
> I enjoy vulgarity.
You might, but when you direct it at other people, who DONT like it, do
not be surprised when they object.
>> you attack people who are trying to help you,
> I am aggressive.
Yeah, and? Thats a good thing? You who claim to be gracious, discreet,
and pleasant, are now trying to justify your attacks on people with "Im
aggressive"? You know what? So is my male dog, and he is isolated from
other dogs for that precise reason. There is a parallel there, should
you be able to open your mind long enough to see it.
>> and castigate those that dont try.
> I do? I didn't know I could do that. Cool.
You're slipping again.
>> You fill your posts with religious nonsense everyone has told you they
>> dont care about, and persisted in doing it even after promising to stop.
> I never promised to stop.
Yes, you did. In direct response to one of my posts, you then recanted
that promise.
Message-ID: <s2Auh.27353$sR.2...@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net>
> Religion is not nonsense to me.
I know. But it is to many of the rest of us, and you continuing to try
and push it on people after they asked you ad nauseam to stop....was wrong.
<snip>
>>
>>>> One thing Id like to point out to you is that other people dont get
>>>> talked about, or treated the way you do. Have you given any thought to
>>>> why? What is the difference between them and you? Why doesnt Usenet
>>>> "gossip" about me, about Ty, about Shirley, in spite of the facts that
>>>> we have published a good bit about our personal lives, over the years?
>>>>
>>> Because you all are atheists.
>>
>>
>> What? You might not believe this, lady, but in my 8 years on SSBB,
>> noone has EVER asked about my religious beliefs...or anyone else's for
>> that matter. Ive never mentioned it one way or another, so the fact
>> that Im an atheist (according to you) has exactly fuckall to do with
>> it. Same goes for Ty and Shirley.
>>
>> *sigh* There goes the 747, zooming over your head again. Please, for
>> the love of...well, anything, try to open your mind and imagine for a
>> moment that religion doesnt matter as much to other people as it does
>> to you. Try to contemplate the idea that the reason I am not gossiped
>> about has to do with how I behave and treat other people, not my
>> belief in God or the lack of it. Try.
> No coyote, ssbb was not a right fit for me that's all there to it.
That doesnt answer the question of why I am not gossiped about, nor Ty,
nor Shirley. Granted, not the right fit, but that is not the answer to
the question. It has to to with behavior, but you wont see that, will you?
>>
>>
>>
>>> There is a fundamental
>>> clash here, or alt.usage.english.
>>
>> That is also correct. What you are leaving out is that people like me
>> do not like being evangelized at in our own backyards.
> I apologize. That was not my intention. I am an evangelist by nature, I
> have to own that.
Is this a real apology? As in "Im sorry, and I wont do it again"? Or is
it one of the "Im sorry, until about 24 hours from now when I will
compulsively do the exact same thing again"? apologies?
>>> That is how it goes. It has everything to do with religion, for me.
>>
>> That has become abundantly clear. Equally clear is the fact that we
>> (TINW) are all abundantly tired of hearing it from you.
>>
>>
>>
> Then stop reading my writing.
Oh, SNAP! No she di-ent!
You made that idea next to impossible, what with your 20 nyms and
endless morphs, for months. Now? Well, you got my attention, and if you
refuse my current gracious and pleasant attempts to give you a clue, I
will just enjoy mocking you, instead. Either way, its fine with me, as
long as you arent disrupting established communities in the process.
--
~coyote
Lynn
> I never wrote to Vladyka Ticken, Vladyka Ticken is Bob Terwilliger.
> However, I may go and count the messages I sent to vladyka, the messages
> he sent to me, the number of messages I sent him per day and vice versa,
> and how our friendship rose and fell. That way when Bob Terwilliger
> hurls another vile accusation against me, I will have the precise truth
> to defend me from his allegation.
Hey, find the one your vladyka sent you in which he claimed you as his
wife, ok?
>
> So did you mail my priest? He has had the flu. I hope you did not cause
> him to catch it.
And, if you did, could you arrange for Atlanta to catch it too?
Lynn
AOK
> AOK wrote:
>> coyote wrote:
>>> the vulgar,
>> I enjoy vulgarity.
>
> You might, but when you direct it at other people, who DONT like it,
> do not be surprised when they object.
>
>>> you attack people who are trying to help you,
>> I am aggressive.
>
>
> Yeah, and? Thats a good thing? You who claim to be gracious, discreet,
> and pleasant, are now trying to justify your attacks on people with
> "Im aggressive"? You know what? So is my male dog, and he is isolated
> from other dogs for that precise reason. There is a parallel there,
> should you be able to open your mind long enough to see it.
wanted to conduct myself in this manner. And I believe the Holy Spirit
is behind this because yesterday someone else in a semi-public
newsgroup, suggested some Scripture for me to read to become the kind of
a woman a Christian man would want to marry.
I am not trying to justify anything. I am merely stating that aggression
is a part of my nature.
I told you before that a devout Russian Orthodox matushka that I know is
a pit bull when necessary to defend her batushka and children from
stalkers and predators. She is not isolated. I don't appreciate your
contemptuous tone. I see you think I am delusionary. I am not.
A devout woman friend who is monitoring this conversation told me not to
engage with people who put me down and make negative remarks. Even a
dominant man friend told me the same thing. Well with their silent
support, I can do this.
>
>
>>> and castigate those that dont try.
>> I do? I didn't know I could do that. Cool.
>
> You're slipping again.
Am I slipping? Last night I spoke to a devout Roman Catholic divorcée on
the phone. I asked him about what Bob Terwilliger told me about Jesus
castigating those who needed it. My man friend told me that Jesus did
indeed castigate the Pharisees because they knew better. There is an
authority that comes from Jesus. I don't claim to have that authority
but I know it is possible to have it. Bob Terwilliger does not have
that kind of authority. He is domineering, not strong. He is malicious
and brittle.
>
>
>>> You fill your posts with religious nonsense everyone has told you
>>> they dont care about, and persisted in doing it even after promising
>>> to stop.
>> I never promised to stop.
>
> Yes, you did. In direct response to one of my posts, you then recanted
> that promise.
Yesterday morning someone wrote to me in a semi-public newsgroup:
> If your divorced was biblically based (adultery or willful dissertion
> St Mt 5:31f & 1 Cor 7:15f) then you are free to marry whomsoever
> you will - only in the Lord. This doctrine is only valid is
> Christianity and obedience to Christ is important.
So I read the whole section on /Righteousness Illustrated, /Matthew
5:21-48, according to the Orthodox Study Bible. Verses 5:34-36 are as
follows:
'"But I say to you, do not swear at all: neither by heaven, for it
is God's throne;
nor by the earth, for it is His footstool; nor by Jerusalem, for it
is the city of the Great King.
Nor shall you swear by your head, because you cannot make one hair
white or black."
NKJV
And the footnote:
"*5:34-36 *Jesus speaks against casual use of God's name and
superficial oaths. The words of Jesus have not only a negative
meaning, but a positive one also. They not only forbid us to
*swear*, that is to bind ourselves with an oath; they also command
us to speak the truth and to keep our promises."
I do not believe I made a promise. I will not look at that Message-ID. I
believe I complied with your demand, and I recanted my compliance. I
will not comply with your demand. If you don't like my religion, don't
read my writing. You came here to talk to me.
>
> Message-ID: <s2Auh.27353$sR.2...@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net>
>
> > Religion is not nonsense to me.
>
> I know. But it is to many of the rest of us, and you continuing to try
> and push it on people after they asked you ad nauseam to stop....was
> wrong.
I left your backyard. Now you came out here. You know I am going to talk
about religion so if you don't like it, go away!
I disagree. All of you are atheists. You don't like my religion. That's
not my problem anymore. I left your backyard. So now what's the problem?
>
>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> There is a fundamental
>>>> clash here, or alt.usage.english.
>>>
>>> That is also correct. What you are leaving out is that people like
>>> me do not like being evangelized at in our own backyards.
>> I apologize. That was not my intention. I am an evangelist by nature,
>> I have to own that.
>
>
> Is this a real apology? As in "Im sorry, and I wont do it again"? Or
> is it one of the "Im sorry, until about 24 hours from now when I will
> compulsively do the exact same thing again"? apologies?
That is an, "I am sorry, I will not evangelize in your backyard". That
is all that is.
>
>
>>>> That is how it goes. It has everything to do with religion, for me.
>>>
>>> That has become abundantly clear. Equally clear is the fact that we
>>> (TINW) are all abundantly tired of hearing it from you.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Then stop reading my writing.
>
> Oh, SNAP! No she di-ent!
>
> You made that idea next to impossible, what with your 20 nyms and
> endless morphs, for months. Now? Well, you got my attention, and if
> you refuse my current gracious and pleasant attempts to give you a
> clue, I will just enjoy mocking you, instead. Either way, its fine
> with me, as long as you arent disrupting established communities in
> the process.
>
>
20 nyms? Go read my Golden Quotes site to see how many nyms I have.
This is one of my oldest nyms. Bob Terwilliger stole my 'Beauty' nym.
Get on his case. Actually 'Vladyka Ticken' aka Bob Terwilliger stole it.
You may enjoy mocking me if you like. Jesus never mocked anyone. He did
castigate the Pharisees though. You mock me? I castigate you. See how it
works? I am allowed to castigate you, and I can with Jesus blessing! You
are neither gracious nor pleasant. "Established communities". That is a
rather sweeping generalization. You contributed to the disruption of
those *two* communities. You blame me. Own your own scat, coyote, and
leave me alone.
Olympiada
coyote
Im not even going to try and continue having a pleasant, constructive
conversation with you if this is the result. I was trying to help you
understand some of the things you keep asking about. Im done trying to
help, and this response of yours is a perfect example of what I was
TRYING TO EXPLAIN TO YOU.
I claim points for the "castigate" seed.
Back to mocking we go.
--
~coyote
AOK
>
> - Show quoted text -
You did not seed castigate, Jesus did, and you are arrogant.To think
that you, an atheist, could explain anything to a Christian regarding
Christianity in a mocking tone deserves to be mocked, but mocking
others is not allowed, so I won't do that. Go back to your backyard
and enjoy playing there. Good bye.
BTW I wasn't asking you anything except what the hell happened in your
backyard and thank you for explaining that!
Olympiada
huey.c...@gmail.com
She meant 'seed' in the sense of teaching you a new word. It's a funny
tic you have, that anytime someone uses a word you're unfamiliar with,
you begin using it back at them, regardless of whether or not you know
what the hell it means. It's very... (hrm...) ...antediluvian.
> To think that you, an atheist, could explain anything to a Christian
> regarding Christianity in a mocking tone deserves to be mocked,
See, it is not immediately evident (at least, not to anyone but you)
that anyone you've spoken with on usenet is an atheist. That seems to be
another of your erroneous assumptions.
> but mocking others is not allowed,
Sure it is! Why, I'm doing it RIGHT NOW!
> so I won't do that. Go back to your backyard and enjoy playing
> there.
Usenet is my backyard.
> Good bye.
If you really meant that, you'd have to leave.
--
Huey
AOK
> AOK <amkemail2006-goo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > On Feb 14, 11:58 am, coyote <coyote-t...@covert-ops.org> wrote:
> > > Im not even going to try and continue having a pleasant, constructive
> > > conversation with you if this is the result. I was trying to help you
> > > understand some of the things you keep asking about. Im done trying to
> > > help, and this response of yours is a perfect example of what I was
> > > TRYING TO EXPLAIN TO YOU.
> > > I claim points for the "castigate" seed.
> > > Back to mocking we go.
> > You did not seed castigate, Jesus did, and you are arrogant.
>
> She meant 'seed' in the sense of teaching you a new word. It's a funny
> tic you have, that anytime someone uses a word you're unfamiliar with,
> you begin using it back at them, regardless of whether or not you know
> what the hell it means. It's very... (hrm...) ...antediluvian.
>
not believe the pride that you two share. It is lethal. Pride caused
Lucifer to fall from heaven, no be cast out. I am terrified of both of
you. I think you both have a demon. God preserve us from such things!
> > To think that you, an atheist, could explain anything to a Christian
> > regarding Christianity in a mocking tone deserves to be mocked,
>
> See, it is not immediately evident (at least, not to anyone but you)
> that anyone you've spoken with on usenet is an atheist. That seems to be
> another of your erroneous assumptions.
>
intruding on this conversation. Bob knew you would come. You are
extremely dangerous to me. Usenet is not your backyard. You may not
cancel my ISP because you are deluded into thinking Usenet is your
background. This is an unused public group. Go home and leave me
alone. Satan get thee behind me!
> > but mocking others is not allowed,
>
> Sure it is! Why, I'm doing it RIGHT NOW!
>
not mock others. I will castigate them however, I am most definitely
allowed to do that and I will castigate you, you Pharisee. You are a
straight up Pharisee, huey.callison. Ugly. *shudders*. And not only
will I continue to castigate you, I will learn everything I can about
how my Lord castigated horrendous Pharisees so I can align myself
directly with him. I will call my devout Latin Rite Roman Catholic man
friend today and ask him to teach me more on this subject. He spent 10
years as a Trappist monk and he still considers himself under vows
even though he reentered the world. He is my teacher. You and coyote
are my mockers.
> > so I won't do that. Go back to your backyard and enjoy playing
> > there.
>
> Usenet is my backyard.
>
> > Good bye.
>
> If you really meant that, you'd have to leave.
>
> --
> Huey
Usenet is not your backyard and you are a megolomaniac. Usenet is the
public. I will not leave Usenet. You have no business chasing me all
over Usenet and getting your sick pleasure through mocking me. You are
mean, nasty and an unpleasant troll. Someone needs to hold you
accountable as well!!!
Olympiada
huey.c...@gmail.com
> On Feb 14, 12:35 pm, huey.calli...@gmail.com wrote:
> > AOK <amkemail2006-goo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > On Feb 14, 11:58 am, coyote <coyote-t...@covert-ops.org> wrote:
> > > > Im not even going to try and continue having a pleasant, constructive
> > > > conversation with you if this is the result. I was trying to help you
> > > > understand some of the things you keep asking about. Im done trying to
> > > > help, and this response of yours is a perfect example of what I was
> > > > TRYING TO EXPLAIN TO YOU.
> > > > I claim points for the "castigate" seed.
> > > > Back to mocking we go.
> > > You did not seed castigate, Jesus did, and you are arrogant.
> > She meant 'seed' in the sense of teaching you a new word. It's a funny
> > tic you have, that anytime someone uses a word you're unfamiliar with,
> > you begin using it back at them, regardless of whether or not you know
> > what the hell it means. It's very... (hrm...) ...antediluvian.
> Again, you share her arrogance. She did not teach me a new word. I can
> not believe the pride that you two share. It is lethal. Pride caused
> Lucifer to fall from heaven, no be cast out. I am terrified of both of
> you. I think you both have a demon.
We DO? Holy CRAP! ...it's the cat, isn't it?
> God preserve us from such things!
Well, yeah. Who KNOWS what the fuck that cat's up to?
I never liked that thing, you know.
> > > To think that you, an atheist, could explain anything to a Christian
> > > regarding Christianity in a mocking tone deserves to be mocked,
> > See, it is not immediately evident (at least, not to anyone but you)
> > that anyone you've spoken with on usenet is an atheist. That seems to be
> > another of your erroneous assumptions.
> No huey.callison, I was speaking about coyote, Ty and Shirley. You are
> intruding on this conversation.
Okay, then let me ask you this: what evidence do you have that coyote,
Ty, and Shirley are atheists?
> Bob knew you would come.
Bob's good like that.
> You are extremely dangerous to me.
HARRRRRRRRR! IM IN UR INTARNETS, MOCKIN UR POASTS!
> Usenet is not your backyard.
It is.
> You may not cancel my ISP because you are deluded into thinking
> Usenet is your background.
Actually, email is my background. Usenet is really more of a hobby.
> This is an unused public group. Go home and leave me alone. Satan
> get thee behind me!
I am home, and Satan's not here, man. You can see him at school tomorrow.
> > > but mocking others is not allowed,
> > Sure it is! Why, I'm doing it RIGHT NOW!
> It is not allowed for Orthodox Christians.
Well, it's a fuckin' good thing I ain't one of THOSE then, INNIT?
> My Lord was mocked. I will not mock others. I will castigate them
> however, I am most definitely allowed to do that and I will
> castigate you, you Pharisee.
Actually, I'm scandanavian. I've never even BEEN to Pharis.
> You are a straight up Pharisee, huey.callison.
No, I'm bisexual, and (as I said) scandanavian.
> Ugly.
Nope. I'm a BEAUTIFUL, BEAUTIFUL LADY.
> *shudders*. And not only will I continue to castigate you, I will
> learn everything I can about how my Lord castigated horrendous
> Pharisees so I can align myself directly with him. I will call my
> devout Latin Rite Roman Catholic man friend today and ask him to
> teach me more on this subject. He spent 10 years as a Trappist monk
> and he still considers himself under vows even though he reentered
> the world. He is my teacher. You and coyote are my mockers.
Ask him if he has any beer. Those trappist guys, they know an awful lot
about beer. They're like the Beer Monks.
> > > so I won't do that. Go back to your backyard and enjoy playing
> > > there.
> > Usenet is my backyard.
> > > Good bye.
> > If you really meant that, you'd have to leave.
> Usenet is not your backyard and you are a megolomaniac.
No, I am a Megolo-brain-cylinder.
> Usenet is the public. I will not leave Usenet.
Hope you know what you're doin' then there, Hoss.
> You have no business chasing me all over Usenet and getting your
> sick pleasure through mocking me. You are mean, nasty and an
> unpleasant troll.
That may be the second time you've made a post with something accurate
in it. But, see, the thing about recognizing trolls on teh intarnetses?
Once you realize someone is trolling you, you might consider NOT
RESPONDING TO THEM.
--
Huey
coyote
<mass snippage>
>> Im not even going to try and continue having a pleasant, constructive
>> conversation with you if this is the result. I was trying to help you
>> understand some of the things you keep asking about. Im done trying to
>> help, and this response of yours is a perfect example of what I was
>> TRYING TO EXPLAIN TO YOU.
>>
>> I claim points for the "castigate" seed.
>>
>> Back to mocking we go.
>>
>> --
>> ~coyote- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> You did not seed castigate, Jesus did, and you are arrogant.To think
> that you, an atheist, could explain anything to a Christian regarding
> Christianity in a mocking tone deserves to be mocked, but mocking
> others is not allowed, so I won't do that. Go back to your backyard
> and enjoy playing there. Good bye.
> BTW I wasn't asking you anything except what the hell happened in your
> backyard and thank you for explaining that!
> Olympiada
>
Wow, and the wheels come off again! Look, lady. I was trying to explain
to you why you are being talked about, and mocked, which you have
repeatedly asked about. I would not presume to explain Christianity to
anyone, except perhaps from a purely historical and secular point of
view. Religion is a personal thing and as such I have no right to be
pushing my views on others.
I was, again, trying to actually have a conversation with you. Wups! My
mistake! Wont try that again. See what I mean about you attacking people
that try to help you? No? What a fucking shocker!
You didnt start using the word "castigate" until I did, so whether or
not Jesus seeded it is totally irrelevant, unless youre claiming to have
the red phone to Him.
Yes, I am arrogant, but I can back it up, unlike you.
How do you know Im an atheist? I never said I was. I could go so far as
to call that a LIE. Delusions again? Reading comprehension issues? You
never change.
--
~coyote
AOK
>
>
>
>
>>>> To think that you, an atheist, could explain anything to a Christian
>>>> regarding Christianity in a mocking tone deserves to be mocked,
>>>>
>>> See, it is not immediately evident (at least, not to anyone but you)
>>> that anyone you've spoken with on usenet is an atheist. That seems to be
>>> another of your erroneous assumptions.
>>>
>> No huey.callison, I was speaking about coyote, Ty and Shirley. You are
>> intruding on this conversation.
>>
>
> Okay, then let me ask you this: what evidence do you have that coyote,
> Ty, and Shirley are atheists?
>
>
their own backyard. You are intellectually lazy. Do your own research.
>> Bob knew you would come.
>>
>
> Bob's good like that.
>
>
>> You are extremely dangerous to me.
>>
>
> HARRRRRRRRR! IM IN UR INTARNETS, MOCKIN UR POASTS!
>
ISP canceled because you do not like me.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>>>> but mocking others is not allowed,
>>>>
>>> Sure it is! Why, I'm doing it RIGHT NOW!
>>>
>> It is not allowed for Orthodox Christians.
>>
>
> Well, it's a fuckin' good thing I ain't one of THOSE then, INNIT?
>
>
>> My Lord was mocked. I will not mock others. I will castigate them
>> however, I am most definitely allowed to do that and I will
>> castigate you, you Pharisee.
>>
>
> Actually, I'm scandanavian. I've never even BEEN to Pharis.
>
>
>> You are a straight up Pharisee, huey.callison.
>>
>
> No, I'm bisexual, and (as I said) scandanavian.
>
>
>> Ugly.
>>
>
> Nope. I'm a BEAUTIFUL, BEAUTIFUL LADY.
>
>
>> *shudders*. And not only will I continue to castigate you, I will
>> learn everything I can about how my Lord castigated horrendous
>> Pharisees so I can align myself directly with him. I will call my
>> devout Latin Rite Roman Catholic man friend today and ask him to
>> teach me more on this subject. He spent 10 years as a Trappist monk
>> and he still considers himself under vows even though he reentered
>> the world. He is my teacher. You and coyote are my mockers.
>>
>
> Ask him if he has any beer. Those trappist guys, they know an awful lot
> about beer. They're like the Beer Monks.
>
I will never let him marry me. Just kidding. But I won't regardless even
though he still has a faint hope of that. No such luck. Friend only.
>
>
>
>> Usenet is the public. I will not leave Usenet.
>>
>
> Hope you know what you're doin' then there, Hoss.
>
disrupting anything here. You are disrupting me.
>
>> You have no business chasing me all over Usenet and getting your
>> sick pleasure through mocking me. You are mean, nasty and an
>> unpleasant troll.
>>
>
> That may be the second time you've made a post with something accurate
> in it. But, see, the thing about recognizing trolls on teh intarnetses?
> Once you realize someone is trolling you, you might consider NOT
> RESPONDING TO THEM.
>
>
trolling is. Thank you.
huey.c...@gmail.com
> huey.c...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>> To think that you, an atheist, could explain anything to a
> >>>> Christian regarding Christianity in a mocking tone deserves to
> >>>> be mocked,
> >>> See, it is not immediately evident (at least, not to anyone but
> >>> you) that anyone you've spoken with on usenet is an atheist.
> >>> That seems to be another of your erroneous assumptions.
> >> No huey.callison, I was speaking about coyote, Ty and Shirley.
> > coyote, Ty, and Shirley are atheists?
> I am not going to argue about this. They have stated so themselves
> in their own backyard.
I maintain that they have not. Coyote has said as much. I'm not prepared
to read through the accumulated works of Ty and Shirley to discover
their religious prefernces, but a cursory google finds no posts from
either of them this year that use the word 'atheist' in any other
context than a reply to you, in which you call them an atheist.
> You are intellectually lazy. Do your own research.
Look, if you want people to believe your arguments, you have to support
them with facts. It's not my job to support YOUR arguments with facts. I
maintain that not one of them has claimed to be an atheist, and to
refute that, you'd have to provide an example of where they did. That's
not intellectual laziness, that's expecting you to support your own
arguments.
> >> You are extremely dangerous to me.
> > HARRRRRRRRR! IM IN UR INTARNETS, MOCKIN UR POASTS!
> No huey.callision@..., you are quite confident you are going to get
> my ISP canceled because you do not like me.
I am confident of no such thing. ...but I am a-mockin' ur poasts.
> >> My Lord was mocked. I will not mock others. I will castigate them
> >> however, I am most definitely allowed to do that and I will
> >> castigate you, you Pharisee.
> > Actually, I'm scandanavian. I've never even BEEN to Pharis.
> I don't care what ethnicity you are, you are a jerk.
So I'm not a Pharisee? That's a bummer. I was always hoping to someday
be in the sequel to Pharis Buehller's Day Off.
> >> Ugly.
> > Nope. I'm a BEAUTIFUL, BEAUTIFUL LADY.
> Your soul is ugly.
It's the athlete's foot. I swear, I've tried every damn thing.
> >> I will call my devout Latin Rite Roman Catholic man friend
> >> today and ask him to teach me more on this subject. He spent 10
> >> years as a Trappist monk and he still considers himself under
> >> vows even though he reentered the world. He is my teacher. You
> >> and coyote are my mockers.
> > Ask him if he has any beer. Those trappist guys, they know an
> > awful lot about beer. They're like the Beer Monks.
> He is no longer a Trappist, and yes, he likes to drink beer.
Learn from the master! Usenet makes a lot more sense when you're ripped.
> >> Usenet is the public. I will not leave Usenet.
> > Hope you know what you're doin' then there, Hoss.
> I do. I have every right to be here just as much as you do. I am not
> disrupting anything here. You are disrupting me.
IM IN UR USENETS, DISRUPTIN U!
> >> You have no business chasing me all over Usenet and getting your
> >> sick pleasure through mocking me. You are mean, nasty and an
> >> unpleasant troll.
> > That may be the second time you've made a post with something
> > accurate in it. But, see, the thing about recognizing trolls on
> > teh intarnetses? Once you realize someone is trolling you, you
> > might consider NOT RESPONDING TO THEM.
> Exactly. However, as I am quite new to Usenet, I need to be taught
> what trolling is.
Like Madge says: "You're soaking in it!"
--
Huey
AOK
> AOK <amkemail2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> huey.c...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>>>>> To think that you, an atheist, could explain anything to a
>>>>>> Christian regarding Christianity in a mocking tone deserves to
>>>>>> be mocked,
>>>>>>
>>>>> See, it is not immediately evident (at least, not to anyone but
>>>>> you) that anyone you've spoken with on usenet is an atheist.
>>>>> That seems to be another of your erroneous assumptions.
>>>>>
>>>> No huey.callison, I was speaking about coyote, Ty and Shirley.
>>>>
>>> Okay, then let me ask you this: what evidence do you have that
>>> coyote, Ty, and Shirley are atheists?
>>>
>> I am not going to argue about this. They have stated so themselves
>> in their own backyard.
>>
>
> I maintain that they have not. Coyote has said as much. I'm not prepared
> to read through the accumulated works of Ty and Shirley to discover
> their religious prefernces, but a cursory google finds no posts from
> either of them this year that use the word 'atheist' in any other
> context than a reply to you, in which you call them an atheist.
>
alt.gothic. Read my conversations with Meesoon in
soc.subculture.bondage-bdsm. Coyote has now denied that she is one. You
can deal with Coyote. Have fun.
May I ask why you care about this and why you are talking about my mom
in soc.subculture.bondage-bdsm? I left my mother's house at 18 and there
are no trust funds to my knowledge. My mother has no authority over me.
Get a clue.
>
>> You are intellectually lazy. Do your own research.
>>
>
> Look, if you want people to believe your arguments, you have to support
> them with facts. It's not my job to support YOUR arguments with facts. I
> maintain that not one of them has claimed to be an atheist, and to
> refute that, you'd have to provide an example of where they did. That's
> not intellectual laziness, that's expecting you to support your own
> arguments.
>
>
suppose if she comes here I could argue about that. Coyote? Also to be
ignored.
>>>> You are extremely dangerous to me.
>>>>
>>> HARRRRRRRRR! IM IN UR INTARNETS, MOCKIN UR POASTS!
>>>
>> No huey.callision@..., you are quite confident you are going to get
>> my ISP canceled because you do not like me.
>>
>
> I am confident of no such thing. ...but I am a-mockin' ur poasts.
>
devout Latin Rite Roman Catholic divorced man friend later with a pencil
and paper and asking him *exactly* where Jesus castigates the Pharisees.
I am also researching it on my own. And I shall be asking about it in
the Orthodox and Christian and Church communities that I am more than
welcome in.
>
>>>> My Lord was mocked. I will not mock others. I will castigate them
>>>> however, I am most definitely allowed to do that and I will
>>>> castigate you, you Pharisee.
>>>>
>>> Actually, I'm scandanavian. I've never even BEEN to Pharis.
>>>
>> I don't care what ethnicity you are, you are a jerk.
>>
>
> So I'm not a Pharisee? That's a bummer. I was always hoping to someday
> be in the sequel to Pharis Buehller's Day Off.
>
sect of moralists who should know better and are domineering and brittle
and sinners who could not be saved. Why do you care about Christianity
when you are a Discordian and what else, a Universalist or something
like that?
>
>>>> Ugly.
>>>>
>>> Nope. I'm a BEAUTIFUL, BEAUTIFUL LADY.
>>>
>> Your soul is ugly.
>>
>
> It's the athlete's foot. I swear, I've tried every damn thing.
>
medicine for it.
>
>>>> I will call my devout Latin Rite Roman Catholic man friend
>>>> today and ask him to teach me more on this subject. He spent 10
>>>> years as a Trappist monk and he still considers himself under
>>>> vows even though he reentered the world. He is my teacher. You
>>>> and coyote are my mockers.
>>>>
>>> Ask him if he has any beer. Those trappist guys, they know an
>>> awful lot about beer. They're like the Beer Monks.
>>>
>> He is no longer a Trappist, and yes, he likes to drink beer.
>>
>
> Learn from the master! Usenet makes a lot more sense when you're ripped.
>
a clue.
>
>>>> Usenet is the public. I will not leave Usenet.
>>>>
>>> Hope you know what you're doin' then there, Hoss.
>>>
>> I do. I have every right to be here just as much as you do. I am not
>> disrupting anything here. You are disrupting me.
>>
>
> IM IN UR USENETS, DISRUPTIN U!
>
>
>>>> You have no business chasing me all over Usenet and getting your
>>>> sick pleasure through mocking me. You are mean, nasty and an
>>>> unpleasant troll.
>>>>
>>> That may be the second time you've made a post with something
>>> accurate in it. But, see, the thing about recognizing trolls on
>>> teh intarnetses? Once you realize someone is trolling you, you
>>> might consider NOT RESPONDING TO THEM.
>>>
>> Exactly. However, as I am quite new to Usenet, I need to be taught
>> what trolling is.
>>
>
> Like Madge says: "You're soaking in it!"
>
>
AOK
> AOK <amkemail2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> huey.c...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>>>>> To think that you, an atheist, could explain anything to a
>>>>>> Christian regarding Christianity in a mocking tone deserves to
>>>>>> be mocked,
>>>>>>
>>>>> See, it is not immediately evident (at least, not to anyone but
>>>>> you) that anyone you've spoken with on usenet is an atheist.
>>>>> That seems to be another of your erroneous assumptions.
>>>>>
>>>> No huey.callison, I was speaking about coyote, Ty and Shirley.
>>>>
>>> Okay, then let me ask you this: what evidence do you have that
>>> coyote, Ty, and Shirley are atheists?
>>>
>> I am not going to argue about this. They have stated so themselves
>> in their own backyard.
>>
>
> I maintain that they have not. Coyote has said as much. I'm not prepared
> to read through the accumulated works of Ty and Shirley to discover
> their religious prefernces, but a cursory google finds no posts from
> either of them this year that use the word 'atheist' in any other
> context than a reply to you, in which you call them an atheist.
>
alt.gothic. Read my conversations with Meesoon in
soc.subculture.bondage-bdsm. Coyote has now denied that she is one. You
can deal with Coyote. Have fun.
May I ask why you care about this and why you are talking about my mom
in soc.subculture.bondage-bdsm? I left my mother's house at 18 and there
are no trust funds to my knowledge. My mother has no authority over me.
Get a clue.
>
>>
>
> Look, if you want people to believe your arguments, you have to support
> them with facts. It's not my job to support YOUR arguments with facts. I
> maintain that not one of them has claimed to be an atheist, and to
> refute that, you'd have to provide an example of where they did. That's
> not intellectual laziness, that's expecting you to support your own
> arguments.
>
>
suppose if she comes here I could argue about that. Coyote? Also to be
ignored.
>>>>
>>> HARRRRRRRRR! IM IN UR INTARNETS, MOCKIN UR POASTS!
>>>
>> No huey.callision@..., you are quite confident you are going to get
>> my ISP canceled because you do not like me.
>>
>
> I am confident of no such thing. ...but I am a-mockin' ur poasts.
>
devout Latin Rite Roman Catholic divorced man friend later with a pencil
and paper and asking him *exactly* where Jesus castigates the Pharisees.
I am also researching it on my own. And I shall be asking about it in
the Orthodox and Christian and Church communities that I am more than
welcome in.
>
>>>> however, I am most definitely allowed to do that and I will
>>>> castigate you, you Pharisee.
>>>>
>>> Actually, I'm scandanavian. I've never even BEEN to Pharis.
>>>
>> I don't care what ethnicity you are, you are a jerk.
>>
>
> So I'm not a Pharisee? That's a bummer. I was always hoping to someday
> be in the sequel to Pharis Buehller's Day Off.
>
sect of moralists who should know better and are domineering and brittle
and sinners who could not be saved. Why do you care about Christianity
when you are a Discordian and what else, a Universalist or something
like that?
>
>>>>
>>> Nope. I'm a BEAUTIFUL, BEAUTIFUL LADY.
>>>
>> Your soul is ugly.
>>
>
> It's the athlete's foot. I swear, I've tried every damn thing.
>
medicine for it.
>
>>>> today and ask him to teach me more on this subject. He spent 10
>>>> years as a Trappist monk and he still considers himself under
>>>> vows even though he reentered the world. He is my teacher. You
>>>> and coyote are my mockers.
>>>>
>>> Ask him if he has any beer. Those trappist guys, they know an
>>> awful lot about beer. They're like the Beer Monks.
>>>
>> He is no longer a Trappist, and yes, he likes to drink beer.
>>
>
> Learn from the master! Usenet makes a lot more sense when you're ripped.
>
a clue.
>
>>>>
>>> Hope you know what you're doin' then there, Hoss.
>>>
>> I do. I have every right to be here just as much as you do. I am not
>> disrupting anything here. You are disrupting me.
>>
>
> IM IN UR USENETS, DISRUPTIN U!
>
>
>>>> sick pleasure through mocking me. You are mean, nasty and an
>>>> unpleasant troll.
>>>>
>>> That may be the second time you've made a post with something
>>> accurate in it. But, see, the thing about recognizing trolls on
>>> teh intarnetses? Once you realize someone is trolling you, you
>>> might consider NOT RESPONDING TO THEM.
>>>
>> Exactly. However, as I am quite new to Usenet, I need to be taught
>> what trolling is.
>>
>
> Like Madge says: "You're soaking in it!"
>
>
AOK
> AOK <amkemail2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> huey.c...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>>>>> To think that you, an atheist, could explain anything to a
>>>>>> Christian regarding Christianity in a mocking tone deserves to
>>>>>> be mocked,
>>>>>>
>>>>> See, it is not immediately evident (at least, not to anyone but
>>>>> you) that anyone you've spoken with on usenet is an atheist.
>>>>> That seems to be another of your erroneous assumptions.
>>>>>
>>>> No huey.callison, I was speaking about coyote, Ty and Shirley.
>>>>
>>> Okay, then let me ask you this: what evidence do you have that
>>> coyote, Ty, and Shirley are atheists?
>>>
>> I am not going to argue about this. They have stated so themselves
>> in their own backyard.
>>
>
> I maintain that they have not. Coyote has said as much. I'm not prepared
> to read through the accumulated works of Ty and Shirley to discover
> their religious prefernces, but a cursory google finds no posts from
> either of them this year that use the word 'atheist' in any other
> context than a reply to you, in which you call them an atheist.
>
alt.gothic. Read my conversations with Meesoon in
soc.subculture.bondage-bdsm. Coyote has now denied that she is one. You
can deal with Coyote. Have fun.
May I ask why you care about this and why you are talking about my mom
in soc.subculture.bondage-bdsm? I left my mother's house at 18 and there
are no trust funds to my knowledge. My mother has no authority over me.
Get a clue.
>
>>
>
> Look, if you want people to believe your arguments, you have to support
> them with facts. It's not my job to support YOUR arguments with facts. I
> maintain that not one of them has claimed to be an atheist, and to
> refute that, you'd have to provide an example of where they did. That's
> not intellectual laziness, that's expecting you to support your own
> arguments.
>
>
suppose if she comes here I could argue about that. Coyote? Also to be
ignored.
>>>>
>>> HARRRRRRRRR! IM IN UR INTARNETS, MOCKIN UR POASTS!
>>>
>> No huey.callision@..., you are quite confident you are going to get
>> my ISP canceled because you do not like me.
>>
>
> I am confident of no such thing. ...but I am a-mockin' ur poasts.
>
devout Latin Rite Roman Catholic divorced man friend later with a pencil
and paper and asking him *exactly* where Jesus castigates the Pharisees.
I am also researching it on my own. And I shall be asking about it in
the Orthodox and Christian and Church communities that I am more than
welcome in.
>
>>>> however, I am most definitely allowed to do that and I will
>>>> castigate you, you Pharisee.
>>>>
>>> Actually, I'm scandanavian. I've never even BEEN to Pharis.
>>>
>> I don't care what ethnicity you are, you are a jerk.
>>
>
> So I'm not a Pharisee? That's a bummer. I was always hoping to someday
> be in the sequel to Pharis Buehller's Day Off.
>
sect of moralists who should know better and are domineering and brittle
and sinners who could not be saved. Why do you care about Christianity
when you are a Discordian and what else, a Universalist or something
like that?
>
>>>>
>>> Nope. I'm a BEAUTIFUL, BEAUTIFUL LADY.
>>>
>> Your soul is ugly.
>>
>
> It's the athlete's foot. I swear, I've tried every damn thing.
>
medicine for it.
>
>>>> today and ask him to teach me more on this subject. He spent 10
>>>> years as a Trappist monk and he still considers himself under
>>>> vows even though he reentered the world. He is my teacher. You
>>>> and coyote are my mockers.
>>>>
>>> Ask him if he has any beer. Those trappist guys, they know an
>>> awful lot about beer. They're like the Beer Monks.
>>>
>> He is no longer a Trappist, and yes, he likes to drink beer.
>>
>
> Learn from the master! Usenet makes a lot more sense when you're ripped.
>
a clue.
>
>>>>
>>> Hope you know what you're doin' then there, Hoss.
>>>
>> I do. I have every right to be here just as much as you do. I am not
>> disrupting anything here. You are disrupting me.
>>
>
> IM IN UR USENETS, DISRUPTIN U!
>
>
>>>> sick pleasure through mocking me. You are mean, nasty and an
>>>> unpleasant troll.
>>>>
>>> That may be the second time you've made a post with something
>>> accurate in it. But, see, the thing about recognizing trolls on
>>> teh intarnetses? Once you realize someone is trolling you, you
>>> might consider NOT RESPONDING TO THEM.
>>>
>> Exactly. However, as I am quite new to Usenet, I need to be taught
>> what trolling is.
>>
>
> Like Madge says: "You're soaking in it!"
>
>
huey.c...@gmail.com
> huey.c...@gmail.com wrote:
> > AOK <amkemail2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> huey.c...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>> Okay, then let me ask you this: what evidence do you have that
> >>> coyote, Ty, and Shirley are atheists?
> >> I am not going to argue about this. They have stated so themselves
> >> in their own backyard.
> > I maintain that they have not. Coyote has said as much. I'm not
> > prepared to read through the accumulated works of Ty and Shirley
> > to discover their religious prefernces, but a cursory google
> > finds no posts from either of them this year that use the word
> > 'atheist' in any other context than a reply to you, in which you
> > call them an atheist.
> They all alluded to it.
So they've never actually said it, then? That's what I thought.
> Read Ty's conversations with Father Ambrose in alt.gothic. Read my
> conversations with Meesoon in soc.subculture.bondage-bdsm.
No.
> Coyote has now denied that she is one.
I don't recall coyote bringing up her religion at all, actually, merely
pointing out that whatever your preconceived notions of what her
religion were, they were wrong.
> You can deal with Coyote. Have fun.
Always do.
> May I ask why you care about this and why you are talking about my
> mom in soc.subculture.bondage-bdsm? I left my mother's house at 18
> and there are no trust funds to my knowledge. My mother has no
> authority over me.
I am not talking about your mother. It's a _metaphor_, see? "I'm gonna
tell Mom!" is analogous to "I'm going to report you to your ISP".
> Get a clue.
You first.
> >> You are intellectually lazy. Do your own research.
> > Look, if you want people to believe your arguments, you have to
> > support them with facts. It's not my job to support YOUR
> > arguments with facts. I maintain that not one of them has claimed
> > to be an atheist, and to refute that, you'd have to provide an
> > example of where they did. That's not intellectual laziness,
> > that's expecting you to support your own arguments.
> I do not care enough to argue about Ty. She is to be ignored.
> Meesoon, I suppose if she comes here I could argue about that.
> Coyote? Also to be ignored.
Then don't make unsupported assertions about them with an expectation
that they will not be questioned. These are lies, slander, libelous,
and you are trying to MURDER their SOULS! Is this any way for an
Orthodox Christian babushka to act?
> >>>> You are extremely dangerous to me.
> >>> HARRRRRRRRR! IM IN UR INTARNETS, MOCKIN UR POASTS!
> >> No huey.callision@..., you are quite confident you are going to
> >> get my ISP canceled because you do not like me.
> > I am confident of no such thing. ...but I am a-mockin' ur poasts.
> And I am castigating you and that shall be our dynamic. I am calling
> my devout Latin Rite Roman Catholic divorced man friend later with a
> pencil and paper and asking him *exactly* where Jesus castigates the
> Pharisees.
Pharisees? I bid three jacks.
> >>>> you Pharisee.
> >>> Actually, I'm scandanavian. I've never even BEEN to Pharis.
> >> I don't care what ethnicity you are, you are a jerk.
> > So I'm not a Pharisee? That's a bummer. I was always hoping to
> > someday be in the sequel to Pharis Buehller's Day Off.
> A Pharisee is not an ethnic class to my understanding. It is a
> religious sect of moralists who should know better and are
> domineering and brittle and sinners who could not be saved.
It is? Oh, then I'm not one of those then, either.
> Why do you care about Christianity when you are a Discordian and
> what else, a Universalist or something like that?
Yes. Also, sometimes I pray to Becky, the Goddess of Liberal-Minded Nurses.
> >>>> Ugly.
> >>> Nope. I'm a BEAUTIFUL, BEAUTIFUL LADY.
> >> Your soul is ugly.
> > It's the athlete's foot. I swear, I've tried every damn thing.
> You are correct in that, you do have a fungus in your soul. Get some
> medicine for it.
Randy Milholland says that schadenfraude is like chocolate for the soul,
and that's why ours have so many cavities. Maybe this is like that.
> >>>> years as a Trappist monk and he still considers himself under
> >>>> vows even though he reentered the world. He is my teacher.
> >>> Ask him if he has any beer. Those trappist guys, they know an
> >>> awful lot about beer. They're like the Beer Monks.
> >> He is no longer a Trappist, and yes, he likes to drink beer.
> > Learn from the master! Usenet makes a lot more sense when you're
> > ripped.
> I don't drink anymore. And I seriously won't date a man who drinks.
> Get a clue.
I think I'll get a beer instead.
> >>>> Usenet is the public. I will not leave Usenet.
> >>> Hope you know what you're doin' then there, Hoss.
> >> I do. I have every right to be here just as much as you do. I am not
> >> disrupting anything here. You are disrupting me.
> > IM IN UR USENETS, DISRUPTIN U!
> You seem to get past my filters.
You really ought to figure out how those filters are supposed to work.
> >>>> You have no business chasing me all over Usenet and getting your
> >>>> sick pleasure through mocking me. You are mean, nasty and an
> >>>> unpleasant troll.
> >>> That may be the second time you've made a post with something
> >>> accurate in it. But, see, the thing about recognizing trolls on
> >>> teh intarnetses? Once you realize someone is trolling you, you
> >>> might consider NOT RESPONDING TO THEM.
> >> Exactly. However, as I am quite new to Usenet, I need to be taught
> >> what trolling is.
> > Like Madge says: "You're soaking in it!"
> I don't get that quote. Soaking in your trollery?
_our_ trollery, my dear.
--
Huey
AOK
>
>
> You didnt start using the word "castigate" until I did, so whether or
> not Jesus seeded it is totally irrelevant, unless youre claiming to
> have the red phone to Him.
Jesus Christ Son of God have mercy me on the sinner". You ought to try
it some time. It draws you night onto God.
>
> Yes, I am arrogant, but I can back it up, unlike you.
over your atheism. In the eyes of the Orthodox church if you are not a
Christian, you are an atheist. Talk to Priest Theodore (Bobosh) about
that one if I am wrong. He pastors the Church in Dayton, OH and he wrote
a book called Come and See, well he edited it. You can also find him on
the oca.org website.
>
> How do you know Im an atheist? I never said I was. I could go so far
> as to call that a LIE. Delusions again? Reading comprehension issues?
> You never change.
>
>
>
huey.c...@gmail.com
> coyote wrote:
> > Yes, I am arrogant, but I can back it up, unlike you.
> You are expressing a logical fallacy. I choose not to argue with you
> over your atheism.
Very well: I choose not to argue with you over the third arm that
you have growing out of your forehead.
> In the eyes of the Orthodox church if you are not a Christian, you
> are an atheist.
That seems counterintuitive and stupid, given that it's insulting to
moslems, jews, hindi, buddhists, shinto, sikh, baha'i, jains, and
everybody else that isn't Christian. But hey, go on and insult 2/3rds of
the world! I'm sure that's endearing to SOMEBODY...
> Talk to Priest Theodore (Bobosh) about that one if I am wrong.
Not terribly interested in talking to him whether you're wrong or not.
> > How do you know Im an atheist? I never said I was. I could go so far
> > as to call that a LIE. Delusions again? Reading comprehension issues?
> > You never change.
> Are you a Christian? If not, an atheist.
I'm afraid those aren't the only two options.
--
Huey
TyMeDwn1st
>> > Okay, then let me ask you this: what evidence do you have that
>> > coyote, Ty, and Shirley are atheists?
>> I am not going to argue about this. They have stated so themselves
>> in their own backyard.
>
>I maintain that they have not. Coyote has said as much. I'm not prepared
>to read through the accumulated works of Ty and Shirley to discover
>their religious prefernces, but a cursory google finds no posts from
>either of them this year that use the word 'atheist' in any other
>context than a reply to you, in which you call them an atheist.
I'm an ordained minister.
TyMeDwn1st
Huey:
>And I am castigating you and that shall be our dynamic. I am calling my
>devout Latin Rite Roman Catholic divorced man friend later with a pencil
>and paper and asking him *exactly* where Jesus castigates the Pharisees.
>I am also researching it on my own. And I shall be asking about it in
>the Orthodox and Christian and Church communities that I am more than
>welcome in.
You're not woman enough to castigate him, Atlanta. It takes more than you've
got.
TyMeDwn1st
>Are you a Christian? If not, an atheist.
Are you a shoe? If not, an egg.
coyote
> On Feb 14, 12:35 pm, huey.calli...@gmail.com wrote:
>> AOK <amkemail2006-goo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> On Feb 14, 11:58 am, coyote <coyote-t...@covert-ops.org> wrote:
>>>> Im not even going to try and continue having a pleasant, constructive
>>>> conversation with you if this is the result. I was trying to help you
>>>> understand some of the things you keep asking about. Im done trying to
>>>> help, and this response of yours is a perfect example of what I was
>>>> TRYING TO EXPLAIN TO YOU.
>>>> I claim points for the "castigate" seed.
>>>> Back to mocking we go.
>>> You did not seed castigate, Jesus did, and you are arrogant.
>> She meant 'seed' in the sense of teaching you a new word. It's a funny
>> tic you have, that anytime someone uses a word you're unfamiliar with,
>> you begin using it back at them, regardless of whether or not you know
>> what the hell it means. It's very... (hrm...) ...antediluvian.
>>
> Again, you share her arrogance. She did not teach me a new word.
I do notice that a quick Google of you shows you using the word before I
did. I guess I lose my points.
> I can
> not believe the pride that you two share. It is lethal. Pride caused
> Lucifer to fall from heaven, no be cast out. I am terrified of both of
> you.
Im not an angel, and I fear no fall. Why are you terrified? What do you
think either of us can do, other than mock you on Usenet?
> I think you both have a demon. God preserve us from such things!
A demon? Wow, that explains the cat! ...and that little itch I keep
getting...
>>> To think that you, an atheist, could explain anything to a Christian
>>> regarding Christianity in a mocking tone deserves to be mocked,
>> See, it is not immediately evident (at least, not to anyone but you)
>> that anyone you've spoken with on usenet is an atheist. That seems to be
>> another of your erroneous assumptions.
>>
> No huey.callison, I was speaking about coyote, Ty and Shirley. You are
> intruding on this conversation.
And where did you ever see a single post about any of the three of us
being atheists? Ive known both those women for years now and I still
have no idea of their religious beliefs, or lack of them. I suspect they
have an equal lack of clue as to mine. It never came up.
As to him intruding? Welcome to Usenet. People can do what they want in
unmoderated forums.
> Bob knew you would come. You are
> extremely dangerous to me. Usenet is not your backyard. You may not
> cancel my ISP
He didnt, actually.
> because you are deluded into thinking Usenet is your
> background.
His background is comprised of many things. I dont think Usenet is one
of them, really.
This is an unused public group.
Unused? Not really, has a non-trivial volume of messages posted to it.
Public? Indeed, which by definition means he, I, and anyone else can
post here if they like.
> Go home and leave me
> alone. Satan get thee behind me!
Satan? That explains SO much about him.
> You and coyote are my mockers.
You left a significant bunch of people out of that list.
--
~coyote
coyote
> huey.c...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>>> To think that you, an atheist, could explain anything to a Christian
>>>>> regarding Christianity in a mocking tone deserves to be mocked,
>>>>>
>>>> See, it is not immediately evident (at least, not to anyone but you)
>>>> that anyone you've spoken with on usenet is an atheist. That seems
>>>> to be
>>>> another of your erroneous assumptions.
>>>>
>>> No huey.callison, I was speaking about coyote, Ty and Shirley. You are
>>> intruding on this conversation.
>>>
>>
>> Okay, then let me ask you this: what evidence do you have that coyote,
>> Ty, and Shirley are atheists?
>>
> I am not going to argue about this. They have stated so themselves in
> their own backyard. You are intellectually lazy. Do your own research.
BAHAHAHAHAH! Um. No. That is not how it works. If you make an assertion,
especially one as powerful as that, you had better be able to back it
up. Ive never posted any such thing. And accusing Huey of intellectual
laziness because he asks you to back up your own claim is patently
absurd, especially coming from someone who constantly asks other people
to do HER research for her!
>>> Bob knew you would come.
>>>
>>
>> Bob's good like that.
>>
>>> You are extremely dangerous to me.
>>>
>>
>> HARRRRRRRRR! IM IN UR INTARNETS, MOCKIN UR POASTS!
>>
> No huey.callision@..., you are quite confident you are going to get my
> ISP canceled because you do not like me.
Really, no. ISPs dont cancel people just because someone else doesnt
like them. They cancel people for violating their terms of service, and
usually only after the violation has become egregious. I should know, I
work for one.
> I don't care what ethnicity you are, you are a jerk.
Its amazing how many people have said that. And yet, there he is.
>> Hope you know what you're doin' then there, Hoss.
> I do. I have every right to be here just as much as you do. I am not
> disrupting anything here. You are disrupting me.
No, you are not disrupting anything here. This group has no Charter.
Which means he is as free to mock you as you are to post here. Equal
opportunity Usenet.
>>> You have no business chasing me all over Usenet and getting your
>>> sick pleasure through mocking me. You are mean, nasty and an
>>> unpleasant troll.
>>>
>>
>> That may be the second time you've made a post with something accurate
>> in it. But, see, the thing about recognizing trolls on teh
>> intarnetses? Once you realize someone is trolling you, you might
>> consider NOT RESPONDING TO THEM.
>>
> Exactly. However, as I am quite new to Usenet, I need to be taught what
> trolling is. Thank you.
Define "new to Usenet"?
--
~coyote
coyote
>> Your soul is ugly.
>
> It's the athlete's foot. I swear, I've tried every damn thing.
Dude, they have a cream for that. Its called Boy Butter, "Churn Style".
Give it a try.
~coyote
Lynn
> It is not allowed for Orthodox Christians. My Lord was mocked. I will
> not mock others. I will castigate them however, I am most definitely
> allowed to do that and I will castigate you, you Pharisee. You are a
> straight up Pharisee, huey.callison. Ugly. *shudders*. And not only
> will I continue to castigate you, I will learn everything I can about
> how my Lord castigated horrendous Pharisees so I can align myself
> directly with him. I will call my devout Latin Rite Roman Catholic man
> friend today and ask him to teach me more on this subject. He spent 10
> years as a Trappist monk and he still considers himself under vows
> even though he reentered the world. He is my teacher. You and coyote
> are my mockers.
Does anyone else get a visual when she gets like this? I see a modern
version of the church-ladies from The Music Man huffing and puffing
over Omay Khayyam's Rubiyat, complete with fluttery hankies and nosees
thrust into the air with each,"Humph!" "You are a Pharisee, Huey
Callison! *Humph!* I will *castigate* you! *Humph!* *Shuddeer!*
*Humph!*
It's a crack-up.
Lynn
coyote
> huey.c...@gmail.com wrote:
>> AOK <amkemail2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> huey.c...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>> To think that you, an atheist, could explain anything to a
>>>>>>> Christian regarding Christianity in a mocking tone deserves to be
>>>>>>> mocked,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> See, it is not immediately evident (at least, not to anyone but
>>>>>> you) that anyone you've spoken with on usenet is an atheist. That
>>>>>> seems to be another of your erroneous assumptions.
>>>>>>
>>>>> No huey.callison, I was speaking about coyote, Ty and Shirley.
>>>>>
>>>> Okay, then let me ask you this: what evidence do you have that
>>>> coyote, Ty, and Shirley are atheists?
>>> I am not going to argue about this. They have stated so themselves in
>>> their own backyard.
>>>
>>
>> I maintain that they have not. Coyote has said as much. I'm not
>> prepared to read through the accumulated works of Ty and Shirley to
>> discover their religious prefernces, but a cursory google finds no
>> posts from either of them this year that use the word 'atheist' in any
>> other context than a reply to you, in which you call them an atheist.
> They all alluded to it.
That would be your interpretation of something that was said, and your
interpretation is not fact. You SPECIFICALLY said "They have stated so
themselves in their own backyard." That goes waaaaaaaaay beyond
allusion. Find the proof of your statement or retract it.
>Read Ty's conversations with Father Ambrose in
> alt.gothic. Read my conversations with Meesoon in
> soc.subculture.bondage-bdsm. Coyote has now denied that she is one. You
> can deal with Coyote. Have fun.
Actually, I denied ever saying I was an atheist. Come now, be precise. I
havent ever made any specific statements about what my religious beliefs
are. I have made several about what they are *not*, but that isnt the
same thing.
<snip>
> I do not care enough to argue about Ty. She is to be ignored. Meesoon, I
> suppose if she comes here I could argue about that. Coyote? Also to be
> ignored.
If you dont care enough to find the proof of your own statements, you
should not make them in the first place.
>> IM IN UR USENETS, DISRUPTIN U!
> You seem to get past my filters.
Your filters clearly need some work. He hasnt morphed his address once.
--
~coyote
AOK
> AOK wrote:
>> On Feb 14, 12:35 pm, huey.calli...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> AOK <amkemail2006-goo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> On Feb 14, 11:58 am, coyote <coyote-t...@covert-ops.org> wrote:
>>>>> Im not even going to try and continue having a pleasant, constructive
>>>>> conversation with you if this is the result. I was trying to help you
>>>>> understand some of the things you keep asking about. Im done
>>>>> trying to
>>>>> help, and this response of yours is a perfect example of what I was
>>>>> TRYING TO EXPLAIN TO YOU.
>>>>> I claim points for the "castigate" seed.
>>>>> Back to mocking we go.
>
>>>> You did not seed castigate, Jesus did, and you are arrogant.
>
>>> She meant 'seed' in the sense of teaching you a new word. It's a funny
>>> tic you have, that anytime someone uses a word you're unfamiliar with,
>>> you begin using it back at them, regardless of whether or not you know
>>> what the hell it means. It's very... (hrm...) ...antediluvian.
>>>
>
>> Again, you share her arrogance. She did not teach me a new word.
>
> I do notice that a quick Google of you shows you using the word before
> I did. I guess I lose my points.
counting points. I will not argue with you.
>
>> I can
>> not believe the pride that you two share. It is lethal. Pride caused
>> Lucifer to fall from heaven, no be cast out. I am terrified of both of
>> you.
>
> Im not an angel, and I fear no fall. Why are you terrified? What do
> you think either of us can do, other than mock you on Usenet?
>
>
>
>
>>>> To think that you, an atheist, could explain anything to a Christian
>>>> regarding Christianity in a mocking tone deserves to be mocked,
>
>>> See, it is not immediately evident (at least, not to anyone but you)
>>> that anyone you've spoken with on usenet is an atheist. That seems
>>> to be
>>> another of your erroneous assumptions.
>>>
>> No huey.callison, I was speaking about coyote, Ty and Shirley. You are
>> intruding on this conversation.
>
> And where did you ever see a single post about any of the three of us
> being atheists? Ive known both those women for years now and I still
> have no idea of their religious beliefs, or lack of them. I suspect
> they have an equal lack of clue as to mine. It never came up.
stated she is ordained minister.
>
> As to him intruding? Welcome to Usenet. People can do what they want
> in unmoderated forums.
>
>> Bob knew you would come. You are
>> extremely dangerous to me. Usenet is not your backyard. You may not
>> cancel my ISP
>
> He didnt, actually.
told alt.usage.english that he was going to. And he got it suspended
once before for trolling and off topic posting and violation of the
charter. We went over the charter in your backyard and I was not
violating it. It is partial. Nor was I violating the charter in
alt.gothic. People were trolling me and yet I took the hit for trolling
the group. Alt.gothic is also partial. Whatever. Those are not the
groups for me to socialize in. That anonymous person wanting me to write
for them in your backyard and alt.gothic where I got my account
suspended for trolling and posting off topic reminds me of my ex husband
wanting me to have his baby. They both have an insane desire. I gave my
ex husband what he wanted all right and it made me sick. I gave that
anonymous person what they wanted and it got my ISP suspended. So I left
before I got my ISP canceled. That anonymous person needs to know they
are like my ex husband.
>
>> because you are deluded into thinking Usenet is your
>> background.
>
> His background is comprised of many things. I dont think Usenet is one
> of them, really.
>
> This is an unused public group.
>
> Unused? Not really, has a non-trivial volume of messages posted to it.
> Public? Indeed, which by definition means he, I, and anyone else can
> post here if they like.
>
>
>> Go home and leave me
>> alone. Satan get thee behind me!
>
> Satan? That explains SO much about him.
>
>
>> You and coyote are my mockers.
>
> You left a significant bunch of people out of that list.
>
>
>
friend said, I am in good company in being mocked. Do you enjoy being
castigated?
coyote
> huey.c...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> Like Madge says: "You're soaking in it!"
>>
>>
> I don't get that quote. Soaking in your trollery? Are you pinging me?
Whut? What does "are you pinging me?" mean?
--
~coyote
coyote
>>
>> How do you know Im an atheist? I never said I was. I could go so far
>> as to call that a LIE. Delusions again? Reading comprehension issues?
>> You never change.
>>
>>
>>
> Are you a Christian? If not, an atheist.
According to your seemingly very narrow-minded Church, perhaps. However,
I still challenge you to find ANY post where I even said I was not
Christian. You cannot go making assertions like that and expect not to
be challenged. You calling me an atheist is as offensive to me as my
calling you a Catholic would be to you. (Which, by the way, I did not do).
---
Atheist: http://www.answers.com/topic/atheism
a·the·ism (a-'the--i(z'?m) pronunciation
n.
1. Disbelief in or denial of the existence of God or gods.
2. The doctrine that there is no God or gods.
[French athéisme, from athée, atheist, from Greek atheos, godless : a-,
without; see a–1 + theos, god.]
That does not fit my religious beliefs.
--
~coyote
coyote
>> Im not an angel, and I fear no fall. Why are you terrified? What do
>> you think either of us can do, other than mock you on Usenet?
> You know what I fear, no need to belabor that.
Actually, I dont, or I wouldnt have asked.
>>>>> To think that you, an atheist, could explain anything to a Christian
>>>>> regarding Christianity in a mocking tone deserves to be mocked,
>>
>>>> See, it is not immediately evident (at least, not to anyone but you)
>>>> that anyone you've spoken with on usenet is an atheist. That seems
>>>> to be
>>>> another of your erroneous assumptions.
>>>>
>>> No huey.callison, I was speaking about coyote, Ty and Shirley. You are
>>> intruding on this conversation.
>>
>> And where did you ever see a single post about any of the three of us
>> being atheists? Ive known both those women for years now and I still
>> have no idea of their religious beliefs, or lack of them. I suspect
>> they have an equal lack of clue as to mine. It never came up.
> Again, read my conversations with Meesoon in your backyard. Ty has
> stated she is ordained minister.
That would sort of imply she isnt an atheist, then, no?
>>
>> As to him intruding? Welcome to Usenet. People can do what they want
>> in unmoderated forums.
> Yes they can. And I can ignore them.
You arent doing a very good job of it.
>>
>>> Bob knew you would come. You are
>>> extremely dangerous to me. Usenet is not your backyard. You may not
>>> cancel my ISP
>>
>> He didnt, actually.
> Bob knew huey would come, not you. No, he didn't cancel my ISP. But he
> told alt.usage.english that he was going to. And he got it suspended
Did he? I dont think so.
> once before for trolling and off topic posting and violation of the
> charter. We went over the charter in your backyard and I was not
> violating it. It is partial.
Why, yes it is. As a non CLEC carrier, they have a right to be as
partial as they like, and have a right to enforce that TOS, as they see
fit.
<snip>
> Yes they can and it doesn't mean that I have to pay attention.
Again, youre doing a remarkably poor job of that.
>>> Go home and leave me
>>> alone. Satan get thee behind me!
>>
>> Satan? That explains SO much about him.
> Yes he needs an exorcism.
Perhaps I can arrange one.
>>> You and coyote are my mockers.
>>
>> You left a significant bunch of people out of that list.
>>
>>
>>
> So what. They aren't here. And as my devout Orthodox Christian mother
> friend said, I am in good company in being mocked. Do you enjoy being
> castigated?
Why, yes, yes I do.
--
~coyote
AOK
> AOK wrote:
>> huey.c...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>> To think that you, an atheist, could explain anything to a Christian
>>>>>> regarding Christianity in a mocking tone deserves to be mocked,
>>>>>>
>>>>> See, it is not immediately evident (at least, not to anyone but you)
>>>>> that anyone you've spoken with on usenet is an atheist. That seems
>>>>> to be
>>>>> another of your erroneous assumptions.
>>>>>
>>>> No huey.callison, I was speaking about coyote, Ty and Shirley. You are
>>>> intruding on this conversation.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Okay, then let me ask you this: what evidence do you have that
>>> coyote, Ty, and Shirley are atheists?
>>>
>> I am not going to argue about this. They have stated so themselves in
>> their own backyard. You are intellectually lazy. Do your own research.
>
> BAHAHAHAHAH! Um. No. That is not how it works. If you make an
> assertion, especially one as powerful as that, you had better be able
> to back it up. Ive never posted any such thing. And accusing Huey of
> intellectual laziness because he asks you to back up your own claim is
> patently absurd, especially coming from someone who constantly asks
> other people to do HER research for her!
>
>
>>>> Bob knew you would come.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Bob's good like that.
>>>
>>>> You are extremely dangerous to me.
>>>>
>>>
>>> HARRRRRRRRR! IM IN UR INTARNETS, MOCKIN UR POASTS!
>>>
>> No huey.callision@..., you are quite confident you are going to get
>> my ISP canceled because you do not like me.
>
> Really, no. ISPs dont cancel people just because someone else doesnt
> like them. They cancel people for violating their terms of service,
> and usually only after the violation has become egregious. I should
> know, I work for one.
alt.gothic when huey admitted to trolling me. So in effect, I got
blamed. I read the charter. I did not violate it. How many people read
the charter? People there did not want to socialize with me. My
anonymous person wanted me to write there for them. Like I said, that
was like my ex husband wanting me to have his baby outside of marriage,
outside of the church, outside of sanity. Writing for that person got my
ISP suspended! Was that the point? Is that the same person that has been
stalking me from group to group trying to silence me, posting my
messages to an anonymous website?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>>> Hope you know what you're doin' then there, Hoss.
>
>> I do. I have every right to be here just as much as you do. I am not
>> disrupting anything here. You are disrupting me.
>
> No, you are not disrupting anything here. This group has no Charter.
> Which means he is as free to mock you as you are to post here. Equal
> opportunity Usenet.
enjoyed castigating the Pharisees as I enjoyed castigating huey. I have
a theory my Lord was a dominant sadist.
>
>
>>>> You have no business chasing me all over Usenet and getting your
>>>> sick pleasure through mocking me. You are mean, nasty and an
>>>> unpleasant troll.
>>>>
>>>
>>> That may be the second time you've made a post with something
>>> accurate in it. But, see, the thing about recognizing trolls on teh
>>> intarnetses? Once you realize someone is trolling you, you might
>>> consider NOT RESPONDING TO THEM.
>>>
>> Exactly. However, as I am quite new to Usenet, I need to be taught
>> what trolling is. Thank you.
>
> Define "new to Usenet"?
>
exact date of my first post in alt.religion.christian.east-orthodox, but
I think I deleted it. You are like truly_clooful. S/he asked me to
define something for him/her in your backyard. I am sad I got kicked out
of your backyard, but there is nothing I can do about that. I am sad I
could not meet my anonymous person's goal but there is nothing I can do
about that either. Oh well.
AOK
ordained minister so she is not an atheist and I retract my assertion.
You could go back home and ask Meesoon yourself. I am not allowed in
your backyard so I can not ask her. See how it works?
>
>
>> Read Ty's conversations with Father Ambrose in alt.gothic. Read my
>> conversations with Meesoon in soc.subculture.bondage-bdsm. Coyote has
>> now denied that she is one. You can deal with Coyote. Have fun.
>
> Actually, I denied ever saying I was an atheist. Come now, be precise.
> I havent ever made any specific statements about what my religious
> beliefs are. I have made several about what they are *not*, but that
> isnt the same thing.
>
> <snip>
edited by Theodore Bobosh, anyone who is not a Christian is an atheist.
I was an atheist. I am now a Christian. Should I write to Father
Theodore and ask him permission to correspond with him regarding this
conversation? I think I might.
>
>> I do not care enough to argue about Ty. She is to be ignored.
>> Meesoon, I suppose if she comes here I could argue about that.
>> Coyote? Also to be ignored.
>
> If you dont care enough to find the proof of your own statements, you
> should not make them in the first place.
retracted my statement about you until you admit whether or not you are
a Christian. I have told you where to find the evidence that Shirley is
an atheist. Her father was a Buddhist monk. The OCA and Father Theodore
seem to consider Buddhists atheists. I really shall have to write to
Father Theodore and ask him permission to talk to him about the book he
edited. *sigh*
>
>
>>> IM IN UR USENETS, DISRUPTIN U!
>> You seem to get past my filters.
>
> Your filters clearly need some work. He hasnt morphed his address once.
friend if I should keep him filtered and he said yes, so I am, for now,
until told otherwise.
This is getting tiresome coyote, where is it going?
>
>
>
>
AOK
requests so I can not connect to the Internet.
I have a friend who works in Internet Security so I shall ask her for a
better explanation. It can be researched on the Internet you know. See,
you don't know everything.
Coyote, what do you want from this? Its going nowhere. Its a waste of
time. It is mental masturbation: fruitless.
coyote
<snip>
>>>>
>>>> Okay, then let me ask you this: what evidence do you have that
>>>> coyote, Ty, and Shirley are atheists?
>>>>
>>> I am not going to argue about this. They have stated so themselves in
>>> their own backyard. You are intellectually lazy. Do your own research.
>>
>> BAHAHAHAHAH! Um. No. That is not how it works. If you make an
>> assertion, especially one as powerful as that, you had better be able
>> to back it up. Ive never posted any such thing. And accusing Huey of
>> intellectual laziness because he asks you to back up your own claim is
>> patently absurd, especially coming from someone who constantly asks
>> other people to do HER research for her!
>>
> I already stated I do not care enough to argue about this.
That is a handy way to back out of something you said that you know isnt
true, isnt it? Im sort of surprised you didnt say you were being
sarcastic and ironic.
>>
>>>>> Bob knew you would come.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Bob's good like that.
>>>>
>>>>> You are extremely dangerous to me.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> HARRRRRRRRR! IM IN UR INTARNETS, MOCKIN UR POASTS!
>>>>
>>> No huey.callision@..., you are quite confident you are going to get
>>> my ISP canceled because you do not like me.
>>
>> Really, no. ISPs dont cancel people just because someone else doesnt
>> like them. They cancel people for violating their terms of service,
>> and usually only after the violation has become egregious. I should
>> know, I work for one.
> Right. But I got suspended for trolling and posting off topic in
> alt.gothic when huey admitted to trolling me.
Perhaps you ought to ask your ISP for clarification on why they
suspended you, then. They clearly thought they had a good reason.
> So in effect, I got
> blamed. I read the charter. I did not violate it. How many people read
> the charter? People there did not want to socialize with me. My
> anonymous person wanted me to write there for them.
That does not make your behavior there "ok". A reason it might be, but
an excuse it is not.
> Like I said, that
> was like my ex husband wanting me to have his baby outside of marriage,
> outside of the church, outside of sanity. Writing for that person got my
> ISP suspended! Was that the point?
I have no idea. Considering how cruel that anonymous person is, I
wouldnt be surprised.
> Is that the same person that has been
> stalking me from group to group trying to silence me, posting my
> messages to an anonymous website?
No clue.
>>
>> No, you are not disrupting anything here. This group has no Charter.
>> Which means he is as free to mock you as you are to post here. Equal
>> opportunity Usenet.
> Right and I am free to castigate him.
You sure are, and I look forward to the results.
I am beginning to think my Lord
> enjoyed castigating the Pharisees as I enjoyed castigating huey. I have
> a theory my Lord was a dominant sadist.
Oddly enough, we might actually be in agreement on that point.
<snip>
>>
>> Define "new to Usenet"?
>>
> I have only been posting here for a year, I think. I could find the
> exact date of my first post in alt.religion.christian.east-orthodox, but
> I think I deleted it. You are like truly_clooful. S/he asked me to
> define something for him/her in your backyard.
I prefer asking you to define things than make assumptions as to your
meanings. If you prefer, I wont do that anymore, and will simply assume
I know what you mean and proceed accordingly. Your choice.
--
~coyote
AOK
path to salvation is narrow and hard and I am on it. Are you? I am
exhausted by our conversation Coyote. What is the point of it? It is
demoralizing to me. I need uplifting not down casting. I may have to
give up again. I do not have the strength to continue this. There are
things that are more important to me than spinning my wheels with you.
I am ready to end this if you are.
AOK
> AOK wrote:
>
>>> Im not an angel, and I fear no fall. Why are you terrified? What do
>>> you think either of us can do, other than mock you on Usenet?
>
>> You know what I fear, no need to belabor that.
>
>
> Actually, I dont, or I wouldnt have asked.
that? If I get accused of trolling and posting off topic again, and
violating the charter again my ISP might get terminated. I don't have
time for that. I need my ISP for more than Usenet. You don't want me to
socialize on Usenet and you are willing to do anything to get me to
stop. You think I have a social disease.
>
>
>>>>>> To think that you, an atheist, could explain anything to a Christian
>>>>>> regarding Christianity in a mocking tone deserves to be mocked,
>>>
>>>>> See, it is not immediately evident (at least, not to anyone but you)
>>>>> that anyone you've spoken with on usenet is an atheist. That seems
>>>>> to be
>>>>> another of your erroneous assumptions.
>>>>>
>>>> No huey.callison, I was speaking about coyote, Ty and Shirley. You are
>>>> intruding on this conversation.
>>>
>>> And where did you ever see a single post about any of the three of
>>> us being atheists? Ive known both those women for years now and I
>>> still have no idea of their religious beliefs, or lack of them. I
>>> suspect they have an equal lack of clue as to mine. It never came up.
>> Again, read my conversations with Meesoon in your backyard. Ty has
>> stated she is ordained minister.
>
>
> That would sort of imply she isnt an atheist, then, no?
offended her and ask her forgiveness if it offended her.
>
>>>
>>> As to him intruding? Welcome to Usenet. People can do what they want
>>> in unmoderated forums.
>> Yes they can. And I can ignore them.
>
> You arent doing a very good job of it.
>
I might have to give up being the conduit, it is too much for me. Its
not worth it.
>>>
>>>> Bob knew you would come. You are
>>>> extremely dangerous to me. Usenet is not your backyard. You may not
>>>> cancel my ISP
>>>
>>> He didnt, actually.
>> Bob knew huey would come, not you. No, he didn't cancel my ISP. But
>> he told alt.usage.english that he was going to. And he got it suspended
>
> Did he? I dont think so.
in alt.gothic. I was doing neither but I was told that if I violate the
charter it might get terminated. I have been talking to the abuse desk
at my ISP voluntarily to find out what the hell is up and that is what
they told me. As you see, my conduct must be beyond reproach, must be
that of a bishop's matushka and I don't know if I can do it. Truly I
don't. Perhaps the devout Coptic mother might be a better candidate for
this job. I am saddened.
>
>> once before for trolling and off topic posting and violation of the
>> charter. We went over the charter in your backyard and I was not
>> violating it. It is partial.
>
> Why, yes it is. As a non CLEC carrier, they have a right to be as
> partial as they like, and have a right to enforce that TOS, as they
> see fit.
>
> <snip>
alt.gothic which I read mind you. I am greatly hurt by what happened
there. Mortally wounded.
>
>> Yes they can and it doesn't mean that I have to pay attention.
>
> Again, youre doing a remarkably poor job of that.
am acting as a go between for my devout Orthodox mother friend. Perhaps
she will dismiss me from her service and I will filter you again, but
until then I will read you.
>
>>>> Go home and leave me
>>>> alone. Satan get thee behind me!
>>>
>>> Satan? That explains SO much about him.
>> Yes he needs an exorcism.
>
> Perhaps I can arrange one.
will post the prayers I copied out of the Trebnik for the purpose of
dispelling demons. I have my own demons to fight with at night.
>
>>>> You and coyote are my mockers.
>>>
>>> You left a significant bunch of people out of that list.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> So what. They aren't here. And as my devout Orthodox Christian mother
>> friend said, I am in good company in being mocked. Do you enjoy being
>> castigated?
>
> Why, yes, yes I do.
>
>
>
switch. I am much more of a submissive masochist and I need to retreat
to my moderated private BDSM groups for recharging.
coyote
> coyote wrote:
<snip>
>>
>> That would be your interpretation of something that was said, and your
>> interpretation is not fact. You SPECIFICALLY said "They have stated so
>> themselves in their own backyard." That goes waaaaaaaaay beyond
>> allusion. Find the proof of your statement or retract it.
> It would be better to ask them directly. Now Ty has admitted she is an
> ordained minister so she is not an atheist and I retract my assertion.
> You could go back home and ask Meesoon yourself. I am not allowed in
> your backyard so I can not ask her. See how it works?
I see that you shouldnt make statements you are unwilling to back up
with facts. If Shirley said what you say she did, you should be able to
find the proof of that fact.
>>
>>> Read Ty's conversations with Father Ambrose in alt.gothic. Read my
>>> conversations with Meesoon in soc.subculture.bondage-bdsm. Coyote has
>>> now denied that she is one. You can deal with Coyote. Have fun.
>>
>> Actually, I denied ever saying I was an atheist. Come now, be precise.
>> I havent ever made any specific statements about what my religious
>> beliefs are. I have made several about what they are *not*, but that
>> isnt the same thing.
>>
>> <snip>
> Fine, I retract my assertion. However in the eyes of "Come and see"
> edited by Theodore Bobosh, anyone who is not a Christian is an atheist.
> I was an atheist. I am now a Christian. Should I write to Father
> Theodore and ask him permission to correspond with him regarding this
> conversation? I think I might.
Might be a good idea. You might also want to consider that not everyone
has the same Orthodox world view you have. Do you really think that
Buddhists, etc, are atheists? I guess by your definition they are, but
thats...very, very narrow-minded.
>>> I do not care enough to argue about Ty. She is to be ignored.
>>> Meesoon, I suppose if she comes here I could argue about that.
>>> Coyote? Also to be ignored.
>>
>> If you dont care enough to find the proof of your own statements, you
>> should not make them in the first place.
> I have retracted my statement that Ty is an atheist. I have not
> retracted my statement about you until you admit whether or not you are
> a Christian.
I am not going to do that, so unless you can find proof that I said I
was an atheist, you should retract your statement.
> I have told you where to find the evidence that Shirley is
> an atheist.
You said it, you find it. Google has archives, use them.
> Her father was a Buddhist monk. The OCA and Father Theodore
> seem to consider Buddhists atheists. I really shall have to write to
> Father Theodore and ask him permission to talk to him about the book he
> edited. *sigh*
That does seem to be a terribly exclusionary point of view, yes. Saying
that one's belief system is the only valid one in existance is what led
to several wars.
>>>> IM IN UR USENETS, DISRUPTIN U!
>>> You seem to get past my filters.
>>
>> Your filters clearly need some work. He hasnt morphed his address once.
> I did not have him filtered. My bad. I do now. I asked my Catholic man
> friend if I should keep him filtered and he said yes, so I am, for now,
> until told otherwise.
Something that worries me about you, Atlanta, and I mean this in a
totally non-mocking way, is that you seem to be unable to make your own
decisions. You said you enjoy castigating him, so why filter him on
someone else's word?
> This is getting tiresome coyote, where is it going?
I dont know where it is going. Im just enjoying the ride.
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~coyote
eit...@netins.net
newsfeed so I am using Google's interface for the first time. It
sucks. I can't tell if this post is going out the way I think I
formatted it; if there is excessage quotage, please forgive me.
coyote wrote:
> What? You might not believe this, lady, but in my 8 years on SSBB, noone
> has EVER asked about my religious beliefs...or anyone else's for that
> matter. Ive never mentioned it one way or another, so the fact that Im
> an atheist (according to you) has exactly fuckall to do with it. Same
> goes for Ty and Shirley.
Atlanta may believe I am an atheist but so far as I can remember she
never asked.
I am not an atheist. I am not a Christian, Jew or Moslem either. My
spiritual beliefs are not up for debate or discussion so I choose to
keep them private.
M. Shirley Chong
coyote
> coyote wrote:
>> AOK wrote:
>>> huey.c...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>>> Like Madge says: "You're soaking in it!"
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I don't get that quote. Soaking in your trollery? Are you pinging me?
>>
>> Whut? What does "are you pinging me?" mean?
>>
>>
> Look it up. It means are you flooding my network with connection
> requests so I can not connect to the Internet. I have a friend who
> works in Internet Security so I shall ask her for a better explanation.
> It can be researched on the Internet you know. See, you don't know
> everything.
*snrk* I make my living off of Internet security, so Im quite aware of
what the word "ping" means. It is an ICMP echo request. It can be used
to simply verify an IP is alive and responding, or it can be used to
maliciously attack someone's connection, especially if large packets
over a large pipe are used. DDOS is a violation of almost any ISP's TOS,
however.
It simply made no sense in the context you used it in, as there had been
no previous discussion of networks. Perhaps, next time, you could use
the phrase "Are you pinging my IP?" or better yet, "Are you DDOSing me?"
which would make a heck of a lot more sense.
> Coyote, what do you want from this? Its going nowhere. Its a waste of
> time. It is mental masturbation: fruitless.
But it is fun.
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~coyote