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Subject: Re: Steven Seagal takes credit for Anderson Silva's win
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 11:03:40 -0800 (PST)
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On Feb 9, 9:42=A0pm, Greendistantstar <Greendistants...@iinet.net.au>
wrote:
> On 10/02/2011 1:30 PM, Mark-T wrote:
>
> > On Feb 7, Mike<mkornecki2...@yahoo.com> =A0wrote:
> >> Help me out here guys, but that's a prety rudimentary kick....
>
> > Hardly.
>
> Uh, yes it is.
>
> >> In your opinion, is it because the front snap kick is
> >> rarely seen in MMA, that Vitor didn't see it coming?
> >> Or was it just Razzle Dazzle?
>
> > Both.
>
> > Apparently, nobody on this board has any experience
> > with this kick, which qualifies them as experts.... so
> > what else is new?
>
> I do, and I said as much in my first reply.
>
> > The mid-level front kick is standard in all the
> > so-called hard styles, but few can hurt you with
> > it. =A0 The ideal target is the solar plexus, which is
> > a KO shot, but most cannot reach even that high.
> > However, the top WUKO players are dangerous.
>
> > The front kick to the chin is gymnastics only. =A0When
> > players try it in sparring - what Silva did - it's a joke.
> > They usually land on their ass, even competitors.
>
> > Conclusions:
> > o =A0Connecting with a high front snap kick is not BASIC,
> > it's PHENOMENAL.
>
> Nonsense.
>
> > o =A0mma training omits this tech almost entirely, except
> > for some rudimentary Muat Thai. =A0Only the few with
> > a karate background even attempt it.
>
> Nonsense.
>
> > o =A099.9 % of karate players cannot front kick
> > effectively - i.e. WITH EFFECT - above waist
> > level. =A0They scoop it. or fail to get body weight
> > behind it, etc. =A0Most cannot kick high at all.
>
> > o =A0The tech, at any height, is useful mostly for
> > distraction. =A0It does get the opponent's attention.
>
> It's that, and a distance-keeper; BJJ 101, and, dare I say it, TKD.
>
> > o =A0You have to be Anderson Silva to make it work
> > at chin level.
>
> > o =A0It's a highlight film when it does.
>
> > o =A0Belfort deserves no discredit, as he never
> > saw it before, in training. =A0It's not worth preparing against.
>
> Silva is phenomenal, and yes, it's rarely used to that degree of effectiv=
eness, but it's hardly
> non-defendable.

If Belfort had simply closed the hole in his arms he would have
defended against this kick. That said, I think he was expecting to
just take it on the chest or midsection. But it's easy for me to see
what happened after seeing it in super-slo-mo about a hundred times.
Probably much less easy for Belfort.

Pierre