Easiest way of counting characters?
Whoosh
searches on Ebay but they only allow about 100 characters. I can copy and
paste into some text editor but neither Notepad or Wordpad seems to have
this capability or I missed it. Does MS Word 2007 have this feature? I
need to count characters, not words.
Lumpy
Sure.
Build an Excel spreadsheet that is 100 columns wide.
Enter your text, one letter per column. When you reach
the 100th column, you're at 100 characters.
If you don't have a spreadsheet program, enter your text,
one letter at a time, in separate txt files. Label the
files -
file001.txt
file002.txt
file003.txt etc
up to file100.txt
After you've entered all the characters in their separate
files, if you're at file100.txt and you haven't yet finished
your text, you're over 100
If you don't have a spreadsheet or a text editor, hire
a small child, one that is capable of counting to, oh
say 100. Pay him, oh say a nickel, to count your letters
and spaces.
If you don't have a spreadsheet or a text editor or
a small child, post your text here. We'll count it for you.
Most of us accept PayPal.
Lumpy
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Whoosh
edwar...@hotmail.com
The word processor in Open Office has that feature. I believe that MS
Word does too.
Ed
Ignoramus20864
There is a program called "wc" that does what you want. It works under
Linux as well as under Cygwin in Windows.
i
PeterD
You missed it, Notepad, turn on the status bar. Easy a pie.
Kris Baker
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Notepad has it. You missed it.
Don Lancaster
> Can someone recommend a simple way of counting characters?
Use the master AMOE membership list.
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Whoosh
>> searches on Ebay but they only allow about 100 characters. I can copy
>> and
>> paste into some text editor but neither Notepad or Wordpad seems to have
>> this capability or I missed it. Does MS Word 2007 have this feature? I
>> need to count characters, not words.
>
> You missed it, Notepad, turn on the status bar. Easy a pie.
I tried Notepad with the Status Bar on but when I highlight a line of
words all it says is Ln 1, Col 1 which I'm guessing means Line 1, Column
1. No mention of characters. Is it hidden? I'm using XP Pro, SP3.
PeterD
You user name is appropriate.
Move the cursor down the line, watch the 'Col' number increase. When
it hits 100, you are at character 100. Wasn't that hard?
Lumpy
> You user name is appropriate.
Petre la D:
> Move the cursor down the line, watch the
> 'Col' number increase. When
> it hits 100, you are at character 100. Wasn't that hard?
What the heck are you trying to search for that
requires 100+ chrs?
BrotherBart
Kris Baker
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> Woosh was wooshed:
>> You user name is appropriate.
>
> Petre la D:
>> Move the cursor down the line, watch the
>> 'Col' number increase. When
>> it hits 100, you are at character 100. Wasn't that hard?
>
> What the heck are you trying to search for that
> requires 100+ chrs?
>
>
> Lumpy
>
The same thing it was trying to search for last time it
visited.
In other words: so wrapped up trying to talk about her
computer, that she can't use it for anything.
And too stupid to know what a column is.
Kris
PeterD
Bet he's looking for:
"Tiger woods collectible golf club accident car suv charges wife many
girl friends sex life ruined no balls"
which is 106 characters.
PeterD
wrote:
No, "tiger slut" is only ten characters.
googler
> Now THAT was pretty funny! :)
Actually sad. You must be new here. Ignore and it goes away.
googler
You can use notepad. Under View, turn on the Status Bar. Make sure you
have word wrap (under format) turned off or the status bar option is
not available.
Then as you type, watch the lower right of the notepad window. It give
you a column (character) count.
Lumpy
> > Now THAT was pretty funny! :)
googler:
> Actually sad. You must be new here. Ignore and it goes away.
Irony meter overload.
Whoosh
>>>> searches on Ebay but they only allow about 100 characters. I can copy
>>>> and
>>>> paste into some text editor but neither Notepad or Wordpad seems to
>>>> have
>>>> this capability or I missed it. Does MS Word 2007 have this
>>>> feature? I
>>>> need to count characters, not words.
>>>
>>> You missed it, Notepad, turn on the status bar. Easy a pie.
>>
>> I tried Notepad with the Status Bar on but when I highlight a line of
>> words all it says is Ln 1, Col 1 which I'm guessing means Line 1, Column
>> 1. No mention of characters. Is it hidden? I'm using XP Pro, SP3.
>
> it hits 100, you are at character 100. Wasn't that hard?
I didn't realize its related to the cursor position. I thought that it
was related to the text that was highlighted. And Status Bar cannot be
activated without Word Wrap disabled. Looks like Notepad is not a very
good solution. But at least I know how it works now. Thanks.
Whoosh
> requires 100+ chrs?
Tons of stuff. Some things I've learned:
Never search one category when you can search the entire Ebay site.
Realize that there are a myriad of ways people can spell or describe
stuff. Sometimes its best to just search the category and filter as much
as possible to get a workable amount of listings.
Always look at the category of the item you're interested in to see how
else people are describing the same thing so you can improve your search.
Finally - the best deals usually occur when sellers make mistakes. Focus
on smaller sellers. Large sellers know better and don't make as nearly as
many errors.
Hope that helps someone out there looking for a deal. And hopefully they
aren't looking in the same categories I am! :)
Whoosh
I need something that can count with Word Wrap activated though. I need
to see the entire line as I'm working on it in the text editor/word
processor. In Wordpad there doesn't seem to be any character or column
count. I tried Open Office Swriter and couldn't get that to count but I'm
no expert in that either so maybe there is a hidden feature that I'm
unaware of. With MS Word 2007 it counts words, not characters unless
there is a hidden feature there too.
PeterD
<reply-t...@no-email.thanks> wrote:
>On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 17:22:22 -0600, googler <googler...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>> On Dec 10, 10:41 pm, Whoosh <reply-to-gr...@no-email.thanks> wrote:
>>> Can someone recommend a simple way of counting characters? I'm doing
>>> searches on Ebay but they only allow about 100 characters. I can copy
>>> and paste into some text editor but neither Notepad or Wordpad seems to
>>> have this capability or I missed it. Does MS Word 2007 have this
>>> feature? I need to count characters, not words.
>>
>> You can use notepad. Under View, turn on the Status Bar. Make sure you
>> have word wrap (under format) turned off or the status bar option is
>> not available.
>>
>> Then as you type, watch the lower right of the notepad window. It give
>> you a column (character) count.
>
>I need something that can count with Word Wrap activated though. I need
>to see the entire line as I'm working on it in the text editor/word
>processor.
Well, if you'd dump the 640x480 VGA mode and get a real monitor, that
would not be a problem, would it. I can see 220 characters in a line
on my computer, and it's not even maxed out resolution wise.
R. Totale
<reply-t...@no-email.thanks> wrote:
>I need something that can count with Word Wrap activated though. I need
>to see the entire line as I'm working on it in the text editor/word
>processor.
Search on eBay for a grown-up's 21st Century monitor.
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Lumpy
> Well, if you'd dump the 640x480 VGA mode and get a real monitor, that
> would not be a problem, would it. I can see 220 characters in a line
> on my computer, and it's not even maxed out resolution wise.
Find a kid that can count all the way to 220.
I'll prolly have to pay im xtra.
Kris Baker
"Whoosh" <reply-t...@no-email.thanks> wrote in message
>
> Never search one category when you can search the entire Ebay site.
>
>
> And hopefully they aren't looking in the same categories I am! :)
Well....it's obvious where you got your nym.
I think eBay is totally unsuited for you. The Dollar Store, however, is.
Kris
Ignoramus15449
He or she is trying to take advantage of people who are listing things
improperly and to get something for nothing.
This is as American as apple pie, and is activity that imparts better
pricing in the eBay marketplace.
To the OP, it is better to do these things using scripting, where
possible.
i
Lumpy
> He or she is trying to take advantage of people who are listing things
> improperly and to get something for nothing.
Last I knew, eBay accepts incorrect spelling
and suggests correct/incorrectly spelled items.
Like if you search for "Dear Huntur Vest",
it gives you dear or deer hunter, dear or deer huntur etc.
Whoosh
>>>> searches on Ebay but they only allow about 100 characters. I can copy
>>>> and paste into some text editor but neither Notepad or Wordpad seems
>>>> to
>>>> have this capability or I missed it. Does MS Word 2007 have this
>>>> feature? I need to count characters, not words.
>>>
>>> You can use notepad. Under View, turn on the Status Bar. Make sure you
>>> have word wrap (under format) turned off or the status bar option is
>>> not available.
>>>
>>> Then as you type, watch the lower right of the notepad window. It give
>>> you a column (character) count.
>>
>> I need something that can count with Word Wrap activated though. I need
>> to see the entire line as I'm working on it in the text editor/word
>> processor.
>
> Well, if you'd dump the 640x480 VGA mode and get a real monitor, that
> would not be a problem, would it. I can see 220 characters in a line
> on my computer, and it's not even maxed out resolution wise.
I'm using 1680 x 1050 (standard for a 22"). But I use larger fonts so
that's probably the difference. I find it nice on the eyes.
Whoosh
> improperly and to get something for nothing.
Why of course! That's the source of most deals of course. When someone
makes a mistake and someone else is faster than the rest to grab it before
others do. And you don't get it for nothing. But you do get it for
substantially less.
> This is as American as apple pie, and is activity that imparts better
> pricing in the eBay marketplace.
> To the OP, it is better to do these things using scripting, where
> possible.
If you could give us an example it would be well appreciated. Not sure
what you mean by scripting and Ebay.
Whoosh
>> improperly and to get something for nothing.
>
> Last I knew, eBay accepts incorrect spelling
> and suggests correct/incorrectly spelled items.
> Like if you search for "Dear Huntur Vest",
> it gives you dear or deer hunter, dear or deer huntur etc.
Unfortunately it doesn't work unless it does the same thing when the
seller is doing the original posting. Hopefully they have it working both
ways. With so many ways of describing things that sure would be good if it
worked reliably.
Lumpy
> Not sure what you mean by scripting and Ebay.
Simple. Quote from your favorite script when trying
to get a seller to lower the price or sell early.
"Well punk, I guess you're gonna have to ask yourself -
Should I let this auction go on for six days,
or five."
"Am I a coward? This is most brave, that I,
the son of a dear father murdered, prompted to my
revenge by heaven and hell, should, like a girl,
unpack my heart with words. Would lord beith so
brave as to endeth thine auction today?"
"Chrissy, don't tell Mr Roper but I'm going to
ask the seller to end the auction today with
a buy-it-now."
Whoosh
Don Lancaster
Does it work on "swash sticker" yet?
Whoosh
>> to see the entire line as I'm working on it in the text editor/word
>> processor. In Wordpad there doesn't seem to be any character or column
>> count. I tried Open Office Swriter and couldn't get that to count but
>> I'm
>> no expert in that either so maybe there is a hidden feature that I'm
>> unaware of. With MS Word 2007 it counts words, not characters unless
>> there is a hidden feature there too.
>
> will give you both a count of the number of words and the number of
> characters.
>
> Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country.
> equals 69.
I found a marvelous little text program called Jarte. Highly
recommended. Have been using it for several days and am discovering
things all the time. Its very similar to Wordpad and is designed as an
enhanced version of it. And am using Microsoft Word 2007 more too. Its
so bloody complex yet its showing its usefulness as well. Between the 2
of them its much better now. I use Open Office's Swriter from time to
time but found it had problems porting stuff over to Wordpad and Word.
Who needs that kind of non-standard communication hassles? That should be
the first order of priority in its design. If your work can't be seen as
it was created its useless. Otherwise OO Swriter is great and seems like
a great stab at word processing. It should be called Swriter Island cause
that's where you'll be if you use it. :)
Lumpy
> I found a marvelous little text program called Jarte. Highly
> recommended. Have been using it for several days and am discovering
> things all the time. Its very similar to Wordpad and is designed as
> an enhanced version of it. And am using Microsoft Word 2007 more
> too. Its so bloody complex yet its showing its usefulness as well.
> Between the 2 of them its much better now. I use Open Office's
> Swriter from time to time but found it had problems porting stuff
> over to Wordpad and Word. Who needs that kind of non-standard
> communication hassles? That should be the first order of priority in
> its design. If your work can't be seen as it was created its
> useless. Otherwise OO Swriter is great and seems like a great stab
> at word processing. It should be called Swriter Island cause that's
> where you'll be if you use it. :)
Amazing the amount of technology we seem to want to go to
in order to count to 80.
Kris Baker
> Whoosh wrote:
>> I found a marvelous little text program called Jarte.
>
> in order to count to 80.
>
>
> Lumpy
Told ya; this one just wants to talk about using a computer,
rather than putting it to use.
Kinda like the late 1980s.
Kris
8088 8088 8088
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Uh Huh...
Chris
8008 8008 8008
R. Totale
<reply-t...@no-email.thanks> wrote:
> I use Open Office's Swriter from time to
>time but found it had problems porting stuff over to Wordpad and Word.
I agree, simple computer users (who find discovering and executing
menu commands like "Save As..." challenging) are best off using simple
programs. Apple built an industry on them.
PeterD
Nope...
4004 4004 4004
(calculator CPU chip.)
Whoosh
>> time but found it had problems porting stuff over to Wordpad and Word.
>
> I agree, simple computer users (who find discovering and executing
> menu commands like "Save As..." challenging) are best off using simple
> programs. Apple built an industry on them.
I got distracted by Apple's OS X for a while til I got tired of trying to
get what I want. Apple users are subservient by nature - they like "the
company" to think for them. It was such a refreshing change to come back
to the freedom and choice of Windows. So peaceful not to do battle with
your computer every day. Of course if you don't value choice and freedom,
Apple is there for you and will probably be very compatible with your
computing needs. Almost every Apple user I meet is an absolute ignoramus
with both their hardware and software, and seem content in their
complacency. Apple: Think Indifferent. Yes, computers are tools and its
nice when they don't try to restrict you. To each his own. The point is
to do stuff with the machine. That I couldn't agree more with. But, as
its a tool, if you don't understand the tool, you won't produce much using
it.
Lumpy
> I got distracted by Apple's OS X for a while til I got tired of
> trying to get what I want. Apple users are subservient by nature -
> they like "the company" to think for them. It was such a refreshing
> change to come back to the freedom and choice of Windows...
Apple provides only one way to count to 80.
Windows provides several.
Hail technology!
Alex Clayton
I have never bothered to try a Mac, but it had nothing to do with the way
some claimed it was so much easier. To me I was able to count the Dollars
they wanted for one compared to the dollars they wanted to buy a PC, and
that made the choice for me. Learning the first PC was a challenge, (Win.
Millennium) but after that XP, Vista, and now Win.7 all seemed pretty easy
to learn, at least enough to do what I want to do.
Last I read Mac had like 4% of the market? I would have to guess this has
a lot more to do with price than how hard a PC is to use compared to how
easy a Mac is to use.
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"Alex Clayton" <alex...@yahoo.com> wrote:
I've run my design business only on Macs and have for almost 20 years.
Just have always found them easier to use and fix. I do run a copy of XP
on one of my laptops for web testing and ActiveX control panels, but
always dislike the interface.
The price of a machine means nothing when you have to factor in support
issues or hardware problems.
I've also never had compatibility issues interfacing with all my PC
using clients. The major programs all exist on both platforms.
It gets down to what you are most productive using. I spend enough time
in front of my computer, would rather not be behind it. I never have to
worry about it.
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Whoosh
>>> trying to get what I want. Apple users are subservient by nature -
>>> they like "the company" to think for them. It was such a refreshing
>>> change to come back to the freedom and choice of Windows...
>
> way some claimed it was so much easier.
That's another way of saying it has less choices. Amazingly, this
marketing angle actually is successful.
> To me I was able to count the Dollars they wanted for one compared to
> the dollars they wanted to buy a PC, and that made the choice for me.
And now that Apple is using Intel parts and there is nothing "Mac" about
the machine expect that it uses EFI instead of Bios (and even that is
changing as Intel motherboards are moving towards doing away with the bios
entirely), people can now compare the machines without the Apple
smokescreen. Its not only that an Apple machine is way more than the
typical PC, there is the glaring issue of not being able to buy the parts
you want for your particular use. Compare Newegg's prices with Apple's on
some of Apple's computer upgrades and you often find Apple is 100% more.
The only people that fall into this trap are newbies and people that can't
be bothered to spend 10 minutes to save $1000.
> Learning the first PC was a challenge, (Win. Millennium) but after that
> XP, Vista, and now Win.7 all seemed pretty easy to learn, at least
> enough to do what I want to do.
Here's the irony: Any program is complex if its good and it takes time to
learn. The same goes with Mac programs. Everything takes time to learn.
So many times I tried Mac programs and they were not intuitive at all. So
there is no advantage. And no, Apple programs don't "Just Work". They
work most of the time just like PC programs work most of the time. I had
many hardware freezeups on 4 Macs I used over several years just like
Windows machines freeze up occasionally. Nothing "Just Works".
> Last I read Mac had like 4% of the market? I would have to guess this
> has a lot more to do with price than how hard a PC is to use compared to
> how easy a Mac is to use.
Probably a lot to do with style. People are really attracted to the all
in one iMac design not realizing that the real work is learning how to use
it properly. A year later you talk to them about their computer
experience and realize they have learned almost nothing, their machine is
used for the most simplistic, mundane tasks that could have been performed
on a 5 year old PC for 10% of the cost. Then, when it breaks, the cost of
a motherboard or monitor for the iMac is almost always more than the cost
of a new machine. Then Apple gets another sale!!! Pretty slick
marketing. But horrible for the consumer.
clams_casino
>
> I found a marvelous little text program called Jarte. Highly
> recommended. Have been using it for several days and am discovering
> things all the time.
Does it count the characters and automatically provide feedback?
Lumpy
> ...The only people that fall into
> this trap are newbies and people that can't be bothered to spend 10
> minutes to save $1000.
I would spend 10 minutes to save $1000 if it
made counting 80 characters simpler.
Alex Clayton
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This would explain a lot of the Mac fans I am sure. What you wrote is all
way over my head. My computer use it e-mail, shopping, and fun. To me
"repair" means go buy another. I use a laptop for a couple years, give it to
one of the kids and buy another. Often the kids have that old one for years.
When they die I just tell them give it back so I can destroy the HD and toss
it.
The last several Laptops I have bought were capable of doing a lot of
stuff I will most likely never bother to learn how to do.
--
"Everything in excess! To enjoy the flavor of life, take big bites.
Moderation is for monks."
[Lazarus Long]
Lumpy
> ...I use a laptop for a couple
> years, give it to one of the kids and buy another. Often the kids
> have that old one for years. When they die I just tell them give it
> back so I can destroy the HD and toss it.
When your kids die, you make them give back their laptop?
Alex Clayton
Yes, it's in their will, I get their laptops.
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I'm seeing how long I can make my Toshiba laptop last,
although I did buy it a friend last month, just in case.
Two and a half years, so far....and even though it's Vista,
it's also running my DOS-based programs nicely.
Kris
Alex Clayton
I have passed down 2 Satellites that so far are still going strong. They
were both bought about 5 or 6 years ago. One I sent to my Father and he is
still using it, the other one of our Kids has and it's still working fine.
Kind of surprising to me as both were the bargain "deal of the week" from
the Sunday ads when I bought them. The one thing I miss about them is the
sound system. Both of those Toshibas actually sounded pretty damn good. I
have never seen another laptop since then that was actually nice for
listening to music on while surfing, with the built in speakers. Don't know
how the hell they get that much sound out of those little speakers.
I bought the Wife a new one for Christmas that she will find out about in
the morning. She is using a Dell with XP that was her Christmas gift 2 years
ago. That one I am surprised about since she tends to be real hard on them.
She is going to have to go from XP to Win. 7 which I suspect will cause some
cussing since she still uses XP at work, so has never used Vista.
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Lumpy
> ...Don't know how the hell they get
> that much sound out of those little speakers.
It's like a series of tubes. The tubes start at the
place where the band is playing and through the
webernet, the tubes carry the music to you,
wherever you are.
Tubes.
Alex Clayton
Well damn. How come this HP did not come with tubes? I am going to send HP
an E-mail and complain. This laptop came without the music tubes.
Might be interesting to see what kind of response I would get from the
customer service people.
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I hope you'll join with me as we try to change it." -- Barack Obama
Kris Baker
I'm keeping Vista....until someone proves to me that the 32-bit W7
will run my DOS programs ;)
I learned the hard way that there's a stumbling block with 64-bit.
I really don't do much with a computer. eBay stuff, this. A bit
of Paint Shop Pro and some Turbo Lister.
But this one's the first laptop (I've had six previously) that cost
less than $1500, wasn't heavy as a load of bricks, and actually
lasted. It's been tossed around in the back of a 5th wheel, behind
the seat of a truck, in the trunk of the car....and dropped.
The new one, just about like it, cost $599 at costco.com a month
ago.
Kris
Alex Clayton
>
> I'm keeping Vista....until someone proves to me that the 32-bit W7
> will run my DOS programs ;)
> I learned the hard way that there's a stumbling block with 64-bit.
>
> I really don't do much with a computer. eBay stuff, this. A bit
> of Paint Shop Pro and some Turbo Lister.
>
> But this one's the first laptop (I've had six previously) that cost
> less than $1500, wasn't heavy as a load of bricks, and actually
> lasted. It's been tossed around in the back of a 5th wheel, behind
> the seat of a truck, in the trunk of the car....and dropped.
>
> The new one, just about like it, cost $599 at costco.com a month
> ago.
>
> Kris
>
That is the one real good thing about "tech". It just gets better, smaller,
and cheaper. That first laptop I bought myself was a Toshiba with a 20G HD,
800 MHz pross. and a BLAZING 256G of RAM. <G> On big door buster sale for
1K.
The ones I just bought Wife and one kid are 320 G HD, 2.1 GHz dual core
processors, 4 Gig of RAM, and they have a HDMI out so you can hook them to a
TV. Both of them were just a little more than that 1 I bought in 01. What a
change.
They are the 64bit which will not matter for us, we have nothing that it
will be a problem with. The 64 bit does seem to be taking over now. In just
a few months it seem all of them are going that way now. You may have a hard
time finding a new 32 bit if yours dies. I would think that as 64 bit takes
over that someone will come up with a way to run the old programs. There
must still be a lot of people using them??
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Oh, I grant you that the wheel was also a fine invention, but the wheel does
not go nearly as well with pizza.
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Lumpy
> I really don't do much with a computer. eBay stuff, this. A bit
> of Paint Shop Pro and some Turbo Lister.
How in the world do you ever find out how
many characters are in your search strings?
Pogonip
Order them to sound off.
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FrediFizzx
> Two and a half years, so far....and even though it's Vista,
> it's also running my DOS-based programs nicely.
Ok, I'm curious. What DOS programs are you running that don't have
Windows counterparts by now?
Lumpy
> Ok, I'm curious. What DOS programs are you running that don't have
> Windows counterparts by now?
I've got a bunch of ham radio related stuff
that is DOS. Antenna element size generators,
max usable freq estimators, stuff like that.
Still hunting for that ideal 80 character txt go/nogo counter.
10 ? "hello world"
20 goto 10
Kris Baker
> They are the 64bit which will not matter for us, we have nothing that it
> will be a problem with. The 64 bit does seem to be taking over now. In
> just a few months it seem all of them are going that way now. You may have
> a hard time finding a new 32 bit if yours dies. I would think that as 64
> bit takes over that someone will come up with a way to run the old
> programs. There must still be a lot of people using them??
That's why I bought the spare 32-bit, a couple of months ago.
Lots of people still use these programs; if I can't get a 32-bit
when both of these die (and there's a couple of spare desktops
in the back, unused), I can have one special-built or partitioned.
I've got thirteen years of eBay/other history, on over 20,000 items.
I'm not letting go of it.
Kris
Kris Baker
> Kris Baker wrote:
>> I really don't do much with a computer. eBay stuff, this. A bit
>> of Paint Shop Pro and some Turbo Lister.
>
> How in the world do you ever find out how
> many characters are in your search strings?
>
>
> Lumpy
Once it gets to eleven, who cares?
Kris
Kris Baker
> FrediFizzx wrote:
>
>> Ok, I'm curious. What DOS programs are you running that don't have
>> Windows counterparts by now?
>
> I've got a bunch of ham radio related stuff
> that is DOS. Antenna element size generators,
> max usable freq estimators, stuff like that.
>
> Still hunting for that ideal 80 character txt go/nogo counter.
>
> 10 ? "hello world"
> 20 goto 10
>
>
> Lumpy
I paid for dBase III Plus 20 years ago, and I'm going to get
the last penny out of it. Plus, since my programs
work perfectly, why should I have to invest over a thousand in
new software and start programming/converting from scratch,
merely to get to where I am now?
Kris
R. Totale
It's not the computer that's 32 or 64 bit, it's the operating system.
If you have a full install disk for 32-bit XP (or Vista or 7) and the
motherboard drivers are available for the machine at hand, you can use
it. One alternative if the drivers become unavailable is to get the
free VMWare player or the MS equivalent and build a virtual machine
with a 32 bit operating system on it, and run it as a box-in-a-box.
Most hardware is so overendowed now that it will probably be as fast
or faster as anything else you ran throughout the XP era, even though
it's only using a fraction of the host machine's resources. That's
what I did for a friend of mine who went out and bought a new laptop
at the MegaloComputerMart, unaware that it wouldn't run a program
which was absolutely critical to her business and was never going to
be updated.
R. Totale
It's not just DOS, it's older Windows programs (those which were
available in the Win3.1 era) as well, and while there are plenty of
alternatives for common applications, many older custom-built or
otherwise special purpose applications are toast. As Kris did with
dBase III, I laid out big bux for Clipper and wrote business programs
in the mid-1990s that I still use today. I could use a modern system
and recompile them, but there is no guarantee they'd work without
dicking around with them and that would cut into my drinking time.
For some Win31 era commercial applications which still do everything
they ever did as well as they ever did it, the vendors are long gone
and there is no real alternative.
Kris Baker
"R. Totale" <slang...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:mv4cj5dir78p8jtd6...@4ax.com...
I've read about those things, and can always have a notebook
built to spec; I've also got a full-install 32-bit Windows "in the
bank".
What's the chance of using a DOS-loaded external hard drive?
A local business just closed; for 16 years, they ran their total
inventory and accounting on programs I'd written for them.
Kris
R. Totale
<paralle...@ggmail.com> wrote:
Never looked for one, but it might be a problem to find one with the
proper drivers available. And if you did, you'd have to format the
external drive as FAT-32 with its inherent limitations. If I
absolutely had to make it happen, I'd probably try to get networking
going on the DOS box and lash it to some graveyard Windows box which
would actually host the drive.
>A local business just closed; for 16 years, they ran their total
>inventory and accounting on programs I'd written for them.
Software can work forever. This text editor, which I've been using
for close to 20 years, can perform a very handy trick which no other
editor I've ever found on any platform can. And oh yeah, it will
count the characters in a line for you, too.
Kris Baker
Cool. Just what I need, next time I'm stuck in a motel room
for the day ;)
Kris
Kurt
"Lumpy" <lu...@digitalcartography.com> wrote:
> Alex Clayton wrote:
> > ...Don't know how the hell they get
> > that much sound out of those little speakers.
>
> It's like a series of tubes. The tubes start at the
> place where the band is playing and through the
> webernet, the tubes carry the music to you,
> wherever you are.
>
> Tubes.
>
Boy, are you right about that!
Oh, sorry, thought you said a "series of boobs".
Kris Baker
Two men walking a breast?
Kris