Ebay encourages SCAM artists
Joseph
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OK, I know you aren't supposeed to interfere in other peoples auctions
(7033024455) but this book must have been the 5th or 6th print. Originally
released pre-1996 with just 250 copies handed out to the fashion set and
with 2nd print coming soon after with an ISBN: 1857938402. Ebay truly makes
it has hard as possible to stop the scammers. Why?
Amanda Angelika
Joseph <link...@yahoo.co.uk> typed:
> OK, I know you aren't supposeed to interfere in other peoples
> auctions (7033024455) but this book must have been the 5th or 6th
> print. Originally released pre-1996 with just 250 copies handed out
> to the fashion set and with 2nd print coming soon after with an ISBN:
> 1857938402. Ebay truly makes it has hard as possible to stop the
> scammers. Why?
I don't see what the problem is. If 250 copies were given away free when it
first came out. That would have been done to promote the book basically as a
publicity stunt, in order to shift the other 50,000 copies in the print run.
Creating an idea of exclusivity and rarity is often how marketing works,
particularly the Fashion industry. I can't see eBay would have a problem
with that that's often how things are marketed. And it is certain there were
more than 250 copies printed LOL
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Amanda
Lord Edam de Fromage
manic...@hotmail.com says...
I think the problem is misinterpreting "first edition" vs "first print"
The listed book is the first print FOR THAT PUBLISHER. The seller, not
knowing any different, has assumed this to be "first edition" - ie one
of the first examples of the book when it isn't.
the correct course of action would be to point out to the seller that
they are misrepresenting a first print from a specific publisher with an
overall first edition, then not participate in the auction.
anyone who cares whether the book is genuiely "first edition" should be
checking up on the details before bidding anyway.
Gizmo
"Joseph" <link...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Attention!
<snip shite>
You have far to much time on your hands ... go get a life
Bertha
the laws of time and space to say:
> OK, I know you aren't supposeed to interfere in other peoples auctions
> (7033024455) but this book must have been the 5th or 6th print. Originally
> released pre-1996 with just 250 copies handed out to the fashion set and
> with 2nd print coming soon after with an ISBN: 1857938402. Ebay truly makes
> it has hard as possible to stop the scammers. Why?
If you can prove he's scamming, contact ebay, not the seller. If you
can't, there's no reason to be harassing the seller about it anyway, hence
no need for anyone to contact him unless they're actually involved in the
transaction.
-Bertha
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Kris Baker
"Bertha" <ber...@yetta.net> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 24 May 2006 10:23:40 GMT, Joseph <link...@yahoo.co.uk> defied
> the laws of time and space to say:
>
>> OK, I know you aren't supposeed to interfere in other peoples
>> auctions
>> (7033024455) but this book must have been the 5th or 6th print.
>> Originally
>> released pre-1996 with just 250 copies handed out to the fashion set and
>> with 2nd print coming soon after with an ISBN: 1857938402. Ebay truly
>> makes
>> it has hard as possible to stop the scammers. Why?
>
> If you can prove he's scamming, contact ebay, not the seller. If you
> can't, there's no reason to be harassing the seller about it anyway, hence
> no need for anyone to contact him unless they're actually involved in the
> transaction.
>
> -Bertha
> --
Booksellers all over the 'net are selling that edition as the
first/first....
with the number line 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10.
Maybe the OP should take his discussion to rec.collecting.books,
or is this just an anti-eBay thing?
Kris
Amanda Angelika
Lord Edam de Fromage <mi...@trek-wars.info> typed:
True. Generally though if there is only one publisher AFAIK a first print
and first edition are one and the same thing.
You do sometimes get Special Editions though, like you'll get say for
example 250 leather bound versions given out to people in the industry. I
listed a special edition CD like that once and it was in a specially made
wooden box and there were only a couple of hundred of them made it had been
given to someone in the Music industry. Such Special editions do come up
from time to time because people get boxes of these freebies and often tend
to pass them on, so these things do sometimes find their way onto the market
often in unused condition because people tend to put then aside rather than
use them.
I suppose it's possible the OP is getting confused between the Special
Edition and the production edition.
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Amanda
L...@its.invalid
> snipped
>
> -Bertha
> --
> No trees were killed in the sending of this message.
> However, several quadrillion electrons were terribly inconvenienced.
How do you know they were inconvenienced?
They nay be like sled dogs and like moving.
Lou
rjn
> OK, I know you aren't supposeed to interfere in other peoples auctions ...
Yep. And it's auction interference even when the seller really
is committing an intentional fraud. Keep it up, and the NARU
will end up next to your ID, and not the seller's.
You report to eBay, not to other buyers, and if there's any
room for doubt, only after Ask-Seller supports your suspicions.
> Ebay truly makes it has hard as possible to stop the scammers. Why?
Well, they did recently add "Report This Item" links to listings.
How would you propose to permit what you attempted, yet
still prevent malicious auction interference by auction vandals
and/or customer stealing by unscrupulous competitors?
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Bertha
>> No trees were killed in the sending of this message.
>> However, several quadrillion electrons were terribly inconvenienced.
>
> How do you know they were inconvenienced?
> They nay be like sled dogs and like moving.
Mush, electrons, mush!
-Bertha
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R. Totale
>On Wed, 24 May 2006 17:24:28 GMT, L...@its.invalid <L...@its.invalid>
>defied the laws of time and space to say:
>
>>> No trees were killed in the sending of this message.
>>> However, several quadrillion electrons were terribly inconvenienced.
>>
>> How do you know they were inconvenienced?
>> They nay be like sled dogs and like moving.
>
>Mush, electrons, mush!
Bit-wranglers 'r us
Lumpy
> Booksellers all over the 'net are selling
> that edition as the first/first....
> with the number line 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10.
> Maybe the OP should take his discussion to
> rec.collecting.books,
> or is this just an anti-eBay thing?
I guess I just never quite understood books.
It's a BOOK. It's a collection of printed pages.
What difference does it make which run of printing
it came from?
Lumpy
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Kris Baker
"Lumpy" <lu...@digitalcartography.com> wrote in message
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> Kris Baker wrote:
>> Booksellers all over the 'net are selling
>> that edition as the first/first....
>> with the number line 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10.
>> Maybe the OP should take his discussion to
>> rec.collecting.books,
>> or is this just an anti-eBay thing?
>
> I guess I just never quite understood books.
>
> It's a BOOK. It's a collection of printed pages.
> What difference does it make which run of printing
> it came from?
>
>
> Lumpy
The best explanation I've heard is that "the collectors wants to be CLOSE to
the author."
Kris
Don Lancaster
> On Wed, 24 May 2006 17:24:28 GMT, L...@its.invalid <L...@its.invalid>
> defied the laws of time and space to say:
>
>
>>>No trees were killed in the sending of this message.
>>>However, several quadrillion electrons were terribly inconvenienced.
>>
>>How do you know they were inconvenienced?
>>They nay be like sled dogs and like moving.
>
>
> Mush, electrons, mush!
>
> -Bertha
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Amanda Angelika
Kris Baker <kris....@prodigyy.net> typed:
Of course I don't suppose there has to be a reason why first editions are
more valuable, all that matters is they are, so the market is self
perpetuated by basic human greed regardless of whether anyone actually knows
why they are sought after. Its probably the same reason dolphins jump
through hoops, they think they are going to get more fish so are obviously
as stupid as we are. LOL
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Amanda
Buck
<kris....@prodigyy.net> wrote:
>The best explanation I've heard is that "the collectors wants to be CLOSE to
>the author."
>
>Kris
>
maybe they should buy a burial plot in the same graveyard.
Buck
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But that's just my opinion.
Joseph
"Kris Baker" <kris....@prodigyy.net> wrote in message
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Amazon list an earlier edition with a different ISBN.