What program will load auctions to eBay at a specific time and date?
Michael Anselmo
sit around and load them manually to get a good end time/date. Will Turbo
lister do that? Any other?
TIA,
Mike
Kris Baker
"Michael Anselmo" <mans...@NOEFFINGSPAMoptonline.net> wrote in message
news:T4%of.528$x24...@fe09.lga...
You want it all for free, then?
OK. I'll tell you, as soon as you tell the group what "a good end
time/date" is.
Kris
Jean
Kris Baker
"Jean" <high...@suscom-maine.netNOSPAM> wrote in message
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That's free to use? (He doesn't want to pay the ten-cent eBay fee, so
needs something cheaper or free.)
Kris
Lumpy
> ...I don't want to sit around and load
> them manually to get a good end
Exactly what is a "good end time/date"?
Craig
Tony Cooper
SpareDollar is $8.95 month (recent price change) Scheduled listings
are done at no extra charge. The price includes image hosting and
some management tools including templates and a gallery listing
feature.
The guy that runs the service is contactable and answers email. They
have various help forums. Mostly the same (stupid) questions and the
same answers, but you stand a better chance of getting a good answer
quickly there than you do here. It's a good newbie feature, but not
much help once you know the ropes.
I dunno if it's any better or worse than any other non-eBay service,
but it's easy to work with. I've used them for years, but never tried
any other service. Works for me.
If I offer you a link to SpareDollar, I think I get a free month's
service. I don't pimp for anyone, though. Look it up if you're
interested.
--
Tony Cooper
Orlando, FL
Michael Anselmo
"Kris Baker" <kris....@prodigyy.net> wrote in message
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Don't we all want it for free? I know it is but a few cents, but why not?
As for a good time/date......I just like to end them in the evening so I can
watch and respond quickly. As for the date, I'm off doing other things some
days and I don't want to be tied to the computer. I'd like to space them out
when I can. So, I can't offer the group a magic time/date, it's just a
preference.
Mike
L...@goforit.net
Well you may not "pimp" but I do friends a favor - and I do not even use them.
http://www.sparedollar.com/corp/
Lou
Angrie.Woman
None that I know of. A few years back, the husband of a regular here
was working on a tool that did exactly that. I can't, for the life of
me, remember the name of it right now, but the last time I checked the
domain was for sale. It said he had never been able to get it to work
right, and was essentially tired of tinkering with it.
Now that eBay's API is free, it would be nice to have one.
A
Flesha
> SpareDollar is $8.95 month (recent price change) Scheduled listings
> are done at no extra charge. The price includes image hosting and
> some management tools including templates and a gallery listing
> feature.
>
> The guy that runs the service is contactable and answers email. They
> have various help forums. Mostly the same (stupid) questions and the
> same answers, but you stand a better chance of getting a good answer
> quickly there than you do here. It's a good newbie feature, but not
> much help once you know the ropes.
>
> I dunno if it's any better or worse than any other non-eBay service,
> but it's easy to work with. I've used them for years, but never tried
> any other service. Works for me.
>
> If I offer you a link to SpareDollar, I think I get a free month's
> service. I don't pimp for anyone, though. Look it up if you're
> interested.
I am an ex-Sparedollar customer.
A couple of comments:
1) Sparedollar is famous for an unreliable scheduling listing service.
The ads may launch on time; they may launch late; they may not launch
at all. You may manually launch them because they DIDN'T launch on
time, then SD launches them and you wind up paying double listing fees
to eBay. (This has happened to me. More than once.)
2) It's a very well known fact to anyone who has tried to get customer
support from SD that the person who runs it is not at all contactable
and virtually NEVER answers e-mail. You can't even SEND actual e-mail.
There's one of those "tech support" forms you can link to in the
program that you fill out. He almost never answers them.
You are supposed to go to the "forums" if you need help. Sometimes he
will post a general announcement of a problem to the forum. Sometimes
he won't. "Volunteers" who are other users may answer your question,
but that's about as close to tech support as you'll generally get.
Search for Sparedollar on the eBay selling board, google it or check
out the auction review sites. You'll get more information there.
Kris Baker
"Flesha" <msca...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> Search for Sparedollar on the eBay selling board, google it or check
> out the auction review sites. You'll get more information there.
>
....and if you check the domain registry, you'll find that the
given phone number's address does not match the domain
registration address. If they can't be totally honest when
they register the domain, why does anyone think they'll
be totally honest elsewhere?
I wouldn't give them my eBay password.
Kris
Angrie.Woman
Ignoramus10397 wrote:
> On 20 Dec 2005 07:29:24 -0800, Angrie.Woman <angrie...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > None that I know of. A few years back, the husband of a regular here
> > was working on a tool that did exactly that. I can't, for the life of
> > me, remember the name of it right now, but the last time I checked the
> > domain was for sale. It said he had never been able to get it to work
> > right, and was essentially tired of tinkering with it.
> >
> > Now that eBay's API is free, it would be nice to have one.
> >
>
> you can use my Net::eBay perl module. There are functions to do all
> kinds of things, for example listing auctions.
>
> I routinely schedule listings using these scripts and the standard
> Unix 'at' command.
>
> I would say something like
>
> echo AddItem 1504 9.99/69.99 Tektronix Tek P6009 High Voltage Probe Military Surplus | at 19:00
>
> that would create an auction (which I prepared with other scripts) at
> exactly 19:00 plus change, in category 1504, starting price 9.99, BIN
> 69.99.
Less than $19.63? I'm shocked!
I'm afraid that I'm not savvy enough to make any sense of that.
I keep thinking that someday I'll hook up one these old PC's and tinker
with things...
I even thought about going back to school to learn, since I don't have
any geeks to hang around with anymore, but the only classes I found
seemed to be geared to senior citizens with their first computer who
want to learn Excel.
Thanks though!
A
Tony Cooper
>Tony Cooper wrote:
>> SpareDollar is $8.95 month (recent price change) Scheduled listings
>> are done at no extra charge. The price includes image hosting and
>> some management tools including templates and a gallery listing
>> feature.
>>
>> The guy that runs the service is contactable and answers email. They
>> have various help forums. Mostly the same (stupid) questions and the
>> same answers, but you stand a better chance of getting a good answer
>> quickly there than you do here. It's a good newbie feature, but not
>> much help once you know the ropes.
>>
>> I dunno if it's any better or worse than any other non-eBay service,
>> but it's easy to work with. I've used them for years, but never tried
>> any other service. Works for me.
>>
>> If I offer you a link to SpareDollar, I think I get a free month's
>> service. I don't pimp for anyone, though. Look it up if you're
>> interested.
>
>I am an ex-Sparedollar customer.
>
>A couple of comments:
>
>1) Sparedollar is famous for an unreliable scheduling listing service.
Famous? Never happened to me, and I never read about it in the
forums. It probably *has* happened, but *famous* is hardly the word.
>The ads may launch on time; they may launch late; they may not launch
>at all. You may manually launch them because they DIDN'T launch on
>time, then SD launches them and you wind up paying double listing fees
>to eBay. (This has happened to me. More than once.)
As above. I wonder if you know how to use the program.
>2) It's a very well known fact to anyone who has tried to get customer
>support from SD that the person who runs it is not at all contactable
>and virtually NEVER answers e-mail. You can't even SEND actual e-mail.
>There's one of those "tech support" forms you can link to in the
>program that you fill out. He almost never answers them.
Oh, nonsense. Tomas has replied directly to me on several occasions.
There are individuals in the forums that seem to field most of the
questions/problems, but I think they receive the service free in
compensation for this. They are acting as employees, just as most any
business of any size employs people to handle inquiries.
I can't see a problem in using the forum. It funnels the type of
inquiry down to a specific area and allows it to be dealt with by
someone familiar with that area.
>You are supposed to go to the "forums" if you need help. Sometimes he
>will post a general announcement of a problem to the forum. Sometimes
>he won't. "Volunteers" who are other users may answer your question,
>but that's about as close to tech support as you'll generally get.
I think those "volunteers" are compensated by free service. They do a
good job with the exception of Fred what'shisname that offers too much
in the way of personal opinion. Still, he stops short of two of the
most prominent personal opinion pushers here. His comments on using
scanners instead of cameras reminds me of someone in this group.
The forums seem to be very useful. I don't know if Tomas moderates,
but the specific forums are almost devoid of the bullshit postings
that clutter this newsgroups.
>Search for Sparedollar on the eBay selling board, google it or check
>out the auction review sites. You'll get more information there.
I have no axe to grind here. The service is there, it works for a
great number of people, it's been around for quite a while, and I've
felt I've received my money's worth. Someone was looking for an
option, and I gave them some information.
The one thing that I note in the forums is that the most vitriolic
posters are the ones that are the most stupid. Someone will bitch and
moan about his/her image not appearing, and then it turns out the
image was never uploaded. Or, someone will bitch and moan about
scheduled listing not appearing and it turns out they Saved instead of
Scheduled.
Tony Cooper
What an absurdly unimportant point.
>I wouldn't give them my eBay password.
Yet, you actually give your password to eBay and PayPal even though
there are reported problems with both.
TyMeDwn1st
wrote:
>On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 17:40:34 GMT, "Kris Baker"
><kris....@prodigyy.net> wrote:
[ ... ]
>>I wouldn't give them my eBay password.
>
>Yet, you actually give your password to eBay and PayPal even though
>there are reported problems with both.
Damn straight. Pretty stupid to give your eBay password to eBay.
--
Ty
Who is mostly just a
slightly skewed
Donna Reed
Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.
~~Voltaire, 1767
Tony Cooper
wrote:
>On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 03:09:14 GMT, Tony Cooper <tony_co...@earthlink.net>
>wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 17:40:34 GMT, "Kris Baker"
>><kris....@prodigyy.net> wrote:
> [ ... ]
>>>I wouldn't give them my eBay password.
>>
>>Yet, you actually give your password to eBay and PayPal even though
>>there are reported problems with both.
>
>Damn straight. Pretty stupid to give your eBay password to eBay.
Makes about as much sense to me as Kris's comment does. The reason
you don't give your password to someone is that you fear that it may
be compromised and used without your authorization.
So you have all these people at eBay that have access to your
password. An organization that size has people leaving them every
day. Who knows how many are leaving with a disk with a few thousand
passwords on it? Some ex-employee may be buying Christmas gifts using
your account as you read this.
Ridiculous? Yeah, a little. But so is worrying about SpareDollar
having your password. They've been around at least five years, and
probably much longer. That's a helluva set-up time to lay the
groundwork for a scam to buy a couple of X-boxes.
Tomas probably registered his domain when he started the biz in his
spare bedroom, and now he's working out of a rented storefront so the
address is different. That kind of business is not big on brick and
mortar needs.
The reference to possible lack of "honesty" is laughable. The
business was spawned as an eBay tool. eBay'll treat you honestly;
they'll honestly do it the way they want to do it. They'll do
everything they promise until they promise to do it differently. If
SpareDollar is as honest as eBay, there *is* something to worry about.
The biggest commonality among the regular posters here is that
anything that isn't what they use - be it a service like SpareDollar,
a camera, a cost/sell ratio, a source for merchandise, a method for
leaving feedback, or even shipping tape - is patently wrong. And
rarely for a good reason.
Amoe's a fun read, though. It's like "Chicken Little" with a new
chapter every day.
Lumpy
> The biggest commonality among the regular
> posters here is that anything that isn't
And so it's a gathering of people with
similar experiences. What's wrong
with that.
I seem to have noticed that the overwhelming
majority of people on this newsgroup have
a computer. I'm not sure what that means,
but I'm gonna do some thinking.
Craig
--
www.lumpymusic.com
Tony Cooper
<lu...@digitalcartography.com> wrote:
>Tony Cooper wrote:
>> The biggest commonality among the regular
>> posters here is that anything that isn't
>> what they use ... is patently wrong...
>
>And so it's a gathering of people with
>similar experiences.
Agreed, but it's also a group of people with similar experiences doing
similar things using dissimilar methods and tools...all trying to say
that the reason it works is because their particular method or tool is
the only one to use, and the other guy's is wrong.
What can you do with that "tool" reference? C'mon, be clever.
> What's wrong
>with that.
>
>I seem to have noticed that the overwhelming
>majority of people on this newsgroup have
>a computer.
I already had you pegged for being perceptive. I figured you'd be one
of the first to notice this.
>I'm not sure what that means,
>but I'm gonna do some thinking.
Lumpy
> What can you do with that "tool" reference? C'mon, be clever.
If all the world's girls
Were like fish in a pool
I'd be a shark
With a waterproof tool
Craig
--
www.lumpymusic.com
Pogonip
>
> Makes about as much sense to me as Kris's comment does. The reason
> you don't give your password to someone is that you fear that it may
> be compromised and used without your authorization.
>
> So you have all these people at eBay that have access to your
> password. An organization that size has people leaving them every
> day. Who knows how many are leaving with a disk with a few thousand
> passwords on it? Some ex-employee may be buying Christmas gifts using
> your account as you read this.
So, who at eBay has your password? Ever lose yours? Ask them to send
it to you? They can't. The only thing they can do is let you in to
choose another.
Other sites seem to actually have your password and if you forget what
it is, you can get them to email it to you, but not eBay. They don't
have a clue what it is.
--
Joanne
stitches @ singerlady.reno.nv.us.earth
Bertha
<tony_co...@earthlink.net> muttered something like:
> The biggest commonality among the regular posters here is that
> anything that isn't what they use - be it a service like SpareDollar,
> a camera, a cost/sell ratio, a source for merchandise, a method for
> leaving feedback, or even shipping tape - is patently wrong. And
> rarely for a good reason.
You're a regular poster here.
-Bertha
--
Overheard in a doctor's waiting room: "My uncle had a cough like yours and
he died. Of course he was under his neighbor's bed at the time."
-- Jim Reed, A Treasury of Ozark Country Humor
Tony Cooper
@aol.com> wrote:
>Tony Cooper wrote:
>
>> The biggest commonality among the regular posters here is that
>> anything that isn't what they use - be it a service like SpareDollar,
>> a camera, a cost/sell ratio, a source for merchandise, a method for
>> leaving feedback, or even shipping tape - is patently wrong. And
>> rarely for a good reason.
>
>Tony, you sound bitter? There are experts in this group that want to
>further the good experiences of the eBay community and don't want to see the
>newbie's make the same mistakes we did when we first started using eBay.
>
Not at all bitter. I've had nothing but good experiences with eBay.
Never had a problem of any kind. Never needed much help, either.
There's not much about eBay that can't be figured out if you give it
some thought.
Tony Cooper
>On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 07:15:00 GMT, Tony Cooper
><tony_co...@earthlink.net> muttered something like:
>
>> The biggest commonality among the regular posters here is that
>> anything that isn't what they use - be it a service like SpareDollar,
>> a camera, a cost/sell ratio, a source for merchandise, a method for
>> leaving feedback, or even shipping tape - is patently wrong. And
>> rarely for a good reason.
>
>You're a regular poster here.
If so, it's a club too easy to join. And, if so, you must be wrong
about something.
TyMeDwn1st
wrote:
And your zany little contributions are always a welcome addition.
TyMeDwn1st
>On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 07:15:00 GMT, Tony Cooper
><tony_co...@earthlink.net> muttered something like:
>
>> The biggest commonality among the regular posters here is that
>> anything that isn't what they use - be it a service like SpareDollar,
>> a camera, a cost/sell ratio, a source for merchandise, a method for
>> leaving feedback, or even shipping tape - is patently wrong. And
>> rarely for a good reason.
>
>You're a regular poster here.
I think Tony prefers to think of his activities here as mere slumming among the
lower classes. Lord Bountiful, charitably dispensing his wisdom and
enlightenment to those otherwise eternally doomed to darkness.
R. Totale
wrote:
>I keep thinking that someday I'll hook up one these old PC's and tinker
>with things...
>
>I even thought about going back to school to learn, since I don't have
>any geeks to hang around with anymore, but the only classes I found
>seemed to be geared to senior citizens with their first computer who
>want to learn Excel.
Hey Angrie-
It's never too late if you want to poke around and teach yourself some
stuff. It's a lot of fun. If you look around on eBay you can probably
find an old version of Borland Delphi (maybe the Desktop edition of
version 1.0 or 2.0) or Borland C++ Builder (maybe the Standard Version
1.0 or 3.0) for under $20. Don't worry that it's an old version -
it'll do everything you need, and will run acceptably on anything over
an old 150Mhz Pentium. Pair it up with a book like "Teach Yourself
<Delphi or C++ Builder><version> in 21 days", which you can probably
get off Amazon for a few bucks, and use that rather than the
"official" docs to start. Don't worry about the 21 days, just pick at
it for an hour or so here and there when you feel like it. It's a
really minimal investment, both environments are incredibly easy to
use, and you'll be surprised at what you can pull off as a rank
beginner. Anyone can do it, and it's really empowering. And while
building a tool to drop auctions onto eBay at scheduled times is not
the first thing you'd want to take on, it can be done in either
environment using just what's in the box and free stuff you can get
off the Web.
Kris Baker
"Bertha" <ber...@yetta.net> wrote in message
news:slrndqidm8...@yetta.net...
> On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 07:15:00 GMT, Tony Cooper
> <tony_co...@earthlink.net> muttered something like:
>
>> The biggest commonality among the regular posters here is that
>> anything that isn't what they use - be it a service like SpareDollar,
>> a camera, a cost/sell ratio, a source for merchandise, a method for
>> leaving feedback, or even shipping tape - is patently wrong. And
>> rarely for a good reason.
>
> You're a regular poster here.
>
> -Bertha
He is?
Kris
Kris Baker
On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 07:15:00 GMT, Tony Cooper
<tony_co...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>Makes about as much sense to me as Kris's comment does. The reason
>>you don't give your password to someone is that you fear that it may
>>be compromised and used without your authorization.
I'm sure my comment made little sense to you. But I'd have
never admitted it, if I were you.
My policy is to *never* share my password to one site, with another.
Simple, easy, direct, neat, clean -- and I'm among those who've
never had a problem.
As I said: the domain registration info on sparedollar.com doesn't
jive with the address of the given phone number. If you blindly
give up your information to a site that doesn't bother keeping
their own info straight, how do you think they're going to treat
yours?
Kris
Bertha
<tony_co...@earthlink.net> muttered something like:
>>You're a regular poster here.
>
> If so, it's a club too easy to join. And, if so, you must be wrong
> about something.
I'm wrong about a lot of things. It's a thing.
-Bertha
--
The two most common elements in the universe are hydrogen and stupidity.
Tony Cooper
wrote:
>On 21 Dec 2005 13:25:45 GMT, Bertha <ber...@yetta.net> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 07:15:00 GMT, Tony Cooper
>><tony_co...@earthlink.net> muttered something like:
>>
>>> The biggest commonality among the regular posters here is that
>>> anything that isn't what they use - be it a service like SpareDollar,
>>> a camera, a cost/sell ratio, a source for merchandise, a method for
>>> leaving feedback, or even shipping tape - is patently wrong. And
>>> rarely for a good reason.
>>
>>You're a regular poster here.
>
>I think Tony prefers to think of his activities here as mere slumming among the
>lower classes. Lord Bountiful, charitably dispensing his wisdom and
>enlightenment to those otherwise eternally doomed to darkness.
Now that's just unkind, Ty. And inaccurate. Lord Bountiful is a
character created by a Catholic priest in a book that teaches life's
lessons in a religious context. I admit to be a practicing Lapsed,
but not to encouraging Living By The Book. I don't even wonder, when
considering leaving feedback, What Would Jesus Do?.
I do admit to feeling that some here are not bright enough to find the
light switch, though.
I only post my wisdom and enlightenment charitably because no one has
offered to pay. I'm struggling to find a basis of value since income
tax time is coming up, and I need some deductions.
How do you go about it? Have you registered your "Who are you
replying to?" macros as a charity? Or, if there is a way to make amoe
posting a profit center, I would greatly appreciate some tips on how
to do it.
Tony Cooper
You are quite right to challenge this. I don't post here with the
frequency required of a Regular, and I don't harbor any grudges
against coin dealers. I'm not exactly sure who Yanni is. I neither
shop at WalMart nor boycott WalMart. I have kill-filed only one
poster - Poco - and I don't really care if someone posts a "FS:"
message. I feel that spammers are an inconvenience and an irritation,
but much less of a problem in the greater scheme of things than the
unavailability of good chocolate in the US.
Tony Cooper
<kris....@prodigyy.net> wrote:
>
> On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 07:15:00 GMT, Tony Cooper
><tony_co...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>Makes about as much sense to me as Kris's comment does. The reason
>>>you don't give your password to someone is that you fear that it may
>>>be compromised and used without your authorization.
>
>I'm sure my comment made little sense to you. But I'd have
>never admitted it, if I were you.
The way in which it was written made sense, but not the conclusion you
have implied.
>My policy is to *never* share my password to one site, with another.
>Simple, easy, direct, neat, clean -- and I'm among those who've
>never had a problem.
That's a good policy, but - if it restricts what you can use in
outside services - you have to decide if it's the best policy for each
individual.
>As I said: the domain registration info on sparedollar.com doesn't
>jive with the address of the given phone number. If you blindly
>give up your information to a site that doesn't bother keeping
>their own info straight, how do you think they're going to treat
>yours?
It's not something I'd worry about. There are other indications of a
service's reliability and trustworthiness that mean more to me. If I
change from SpareDollar to one of the other services, I will not check
out the domain registration data as my basis for choice. I'm far more
interested in how long they've been around, whether or not their
customer base stays with them, whether or not the services they offer
meet my needs, and what kind of reputation they have. I don't expect
any organization to be without some history of complaints.
I'm not sure how to phrase this since I'm not familiar enough with
eBay's inner workings, but SpareDollar is recognized by the eBay
Developer's Program which is "tapping into the eBay platform"
according to eBay. They have access to eBay's API
http://developer.ebay.com/common/api
If eBay is allowing a dubious vendor of services to tap into their
program, then how do you think your other interfaces with eBay are
handled? Is eBay so slovenly in their research on allowed service
vendors that they don't check domain registration information? Or,
does eBay consider what you have pointed out as a trivial matter?
Just to reiterate...I'm not suggesting that anyone use SpareDollar. I
think people should do their own investigation of available services
and pick what is comfortable for them.
Since SD has increased their rates recently, I may look into another
service. Not because I'm worried about security, but because I'm
interested in getting the best bang for my own buck.
TyMeDwn1st
wrote:
<shrug> It's worth what someone is willing to pay you. Sounds as if the market
has spoken.
TyMeDwn1st
wrote:
>On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 16:12:18 GMT, "Kris Baker"
You just haven't shopped hard enough. Try Peterbrooke's in Jacksonville, online
at www.peterbrooke.com/ .
Flesha
Tony Cooper wrote:
> >1) Sparedollar is famous for an unreliable scheduling listing service.
>
> Famous? Never happened to me, and I never read about it in the
> forums. It probably *has* happened, but *famous* is hardly the word.
Oh, it's definitely been in the forums.
In case you weren't aware of it, Tomas deletes threads and posts that
he doesn't like and that are critical of the service. Anything people
complain about you aren't going to find THERE. Check other boards that
aren't controlled by SD.
>
> >The ads may launch on time; they may launch late; they may not launch
> >at all. You may manually launch them because they DIDN'T launch on
> >time, then SD launches them and you wind up paying double listing fees
> >to eBay. (This has happened to me. More than once.)
>
> As above. I wonder if you know how to use the program.
I know how to use the program. I have had literally thousands of
listings on Sparedollar.
>
> >2) It's a very well known fact to anyone who has tried to get customer
> >support from SD that the person who runs it is not at all contactable
> >and virtually NEVER answers e-mail. You can't even SEND actual e-mail.
> >There's one of those "tech support" forms you can link to in the
> >program that you fill out. He almost never answers them.
>
> Oh, nonsense. Tomas has replied directly to me on several occasions.
> There are individuals in the forums that seem to field most of the
> questions/problems, but I think they receive the service free in
> compensation for this. They are acting as employees, just as most any
> business of any size employs people to handle inquiries.
They are NOT employees, and have stated that they are not. They
certainly have no ability to handle anything that isn't working.
Example: One day no photos were showing up in anyone's listings. It was
a Sunday. Tomas had taken the day off to do something with his family.
No one knew how to contact him, including his little band of
"volunteers." There were no photos the entire day until around 6:00
p.m. when Tomas logged on. He had to reboot some server or something to
get everyone's photos back.
A lot of people had a lot of listings go off that day with no photos.
So much for his "employees".
>
> I can't see a problem in using the forum. It funnels the type of
> inquiry down to a specific area and allows it to be dealt with by
> someone familiar with that area.
The problem with using the forum is that, if there is a technical
problem that is caused by the site (and there are a LOT of them,
regardless of what you seem to think) there's nothing these people can
do to help you. They have no control over the software, and they have
no more of an ability to communicate to the ONE person who has control
than anyone else does.
>
> >You are supposed to go to the "forums" if you need help. Sometimes he
> >will post a general announcement of a problem to the forum. Sometimes
> >he won't. "Volunteers" who are other users may answer your question,
> >but that's about as close to tech support as you'll generally get.
>
> I think those "volunteers" are compensated by free service. They do a
> good job with the exception of Fred what'shisname that offers too much
> in the way of personal opinion. Still, he stops short of two of the
> most prominent personal opinion pushers here. His comments on using
> scanners instead of cameras reminds me of someone in this group.
Whether or not they do a good job (which is a debatable issue), there
is only a limited amount they can do. As I said, if there is a problem
with the service (photos not showing, can't access the program, can't
load photos, etc.) they can't help.
And someone shouldn't have to go to a forum for tech support or
customer service. Other sites have tech support and customer service
where you can e-mail or fill out a ticket and get a response. Why can't
Sparedollar?
>
> The forums seem to be very useful. I don't know if Tomas moderates,
> but the specific forums are almost devoid of the bullshit postings
> that clutter this newsgroups.
>
> >Search for Sparedollar on the eBay selling board, google it or check
> >out the auction review sites. You'll get more information there.
>
> I have no axe to grind here. The service is there, it works for a
> great number of people, it's been around for quite a while, and I've
> felt I've received my money's worth. Someone was looking for an
> option, and I gave them some information.
>
> The one thing that I note in the forums is that the most vitriolic
> posters are the ones that are the most stupid. Someone will bitch and
> moan about his/her image not appearing, and then it turns out the
> image was never uploaded. Or, someone will bitch and moan about
> scheduled listing not appearing and it turns out they Saved instead of
> Scheduled.
>
Boy, you sound just like BiggFred. Are you sure you aren't really him?
First of all, though there may be a certain number of those types of
"stupid" people, if the site had any kind of actual customer service,
these people wouldn't even be on the forums. People go to the forums
because they have a problem. If Tomas would answer his e-mails or
service requests or whatever he calls them, most of them wouldn't even
go there. There is no choice, because there is no place else to get
help.
By the time they get there, they have not only experienced a problem,
they have tried to communicate with "tech support" and gotten no
response. So, they are doubly pissed off when they get there. It's not
surprising that the forums have "vitrolic" posters, as you say.
I am in customer service, and I can tell you that nothing makes people
more angry as when their phone calls don't get returned or they don't
get a response to their communication. They are ten times madder when
that happens as they were about whatever their original problem or
issue was to begin with.
>
> Tony Cooper
> Orlando, FL
Bertha
<tony_co...@earthlink.net> muttered something like:
> message. I feel that spammers are an inconvenience and an irritation,
> but much less of a problem in the greater scheme of things than the
> unavailability of good chocolate in the US.
Probably because you've never watched them destroy a newsgroup.
-Bertha
--
Simon: I've never shot anyone before.
Book: I was there, son. I'm fair sure you haven't shot anyone yet.
Kris Baker
> On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 17:06:14 GMT, Tony Cooper
> <tony_co...@earthlink.net> muttered something like:
>
>> message. I feel that spammers are an inconvenience and an irritation,
>> but much less of a problem in the greater scheme of things than the
>> unavailability of good chocolate in the US.
>
> Probably because you've never watched them destroy a newsgroup.
>
> -Bertha
Oh! I remember now. That's how Tony started here. Rather than
asking "why doesn't my auction show up", he had to give us a
link to it.
Kris
Tony Cooper
It's kind of you to try to remember me, but my first post was in
February of 2003 that responded to a question on sales tax exemptions.
I don't think I've ever posted a link to one of my auctions.
If you'd like one, though, I'll put you on my email list that
announces future auctions of interest. I don't have any running now,
and haven't listed anything for a few weeks. I recently sold a book
on Nouveau Art Glass. I was careful to avoid descriptive terms like
"mint" in light of your advice. It would have probably sold for more
if I had used "mint", but I got a positive feedback. I left feedback
for the Buyer before he left mine, and he was probably so surprised
that he felt he had to reciprocate.
Tony Cooper
>
>Tony Cooper wrote:
>> As above. I wonder if you know how to use the program.
>
>
>I know how to use the program. I have had literally thousands of
>listings on Sparedollar.
>>
I got it. It's poorly run, inefficient service rife with problems and
you experienced nothing but trouble. You know this because you listed
thousands of items through them.
How far would you walk before you removed a rock from your shoe?
Michael Anselmo
"Pogonip" <nob...@nowhere.org> wrote in message
news:43a91c36$1...@news.bnb-lp.com...
Isn't that a UNIX thing? I think the passwords are encoded in UNIX. Even the
admin can't figure them out. That doesn't mean that they couldn't intercept
them as you put them in before they are encoded. Maybe they just choose to
do it that way.
Mike
Pogonip
>>to you? They can't. The only thing they can do is let you in to choose
>>another.
>>
>>Other sites seem to actually have your password and if you forget what it
>>is, you can get them to email it to you, but not eBay. They don't have a
>>clue what it is.
>>--
>>Joanne
>>stitches @ singerlady.reno.nv.us.earth
>
>
> Isn't that a UNIX thing? I think the passwords are encoded in UNIX. Even the
> admin can't figure them out. That doesn't mean that they couldn't intercept
> them as you put them in before they are encoded. Maybe they just choose to
> do it that way.
>
> Mike
>
>
pw, they have no way to give it to you. As for intercepting, I doubt
they allow employees to play around intercepting passwords. Anyone with
unprotected WiFi could be giving it to the neighbors, though, couldn't
they? Or to that FBI van parked two doors down the street.
TyMeDwn1st
At my credit union we can reset passwords but we have NO access to the passwords
themselves. (And no access to debit and ATM PINs, either.) When I worked for
AOL long ago, their system worked the same way.