i'm a really good boy

[x]

it just appears i am the servant of satan at times. :)

[x]

On Thu, 16 May 2013 23:03:37 -0500, x wrote:

> it just appears i am the servant of satan at times. :)

focus on the point between flying and falling....

bring the light further...

[x]

step on eggshells, break them all.

i believe in people being human...

we're at a tricky point in this era of rational enlightenment...everyone
wants to be as free as a god which is great but no amount of freedom
granted is a match for realizing your own right now. you don't need to do
anything you are told, first step take responsibility for being a "slave".

at least that seems to make sense until i consider who i am more deeply...

i don't know... you try.

[Tim]

On May 16, 10:54 pm, x <x...@x.org> wrote:

> we're at a tricky point in this era of rational enlightenment...everyone
> wants to be as free as a god which is great but no amount of freedom
> granted is a match for realizing your own right now. you don't need to do
> anything you are told, first step take responsibility for being a "slave".

> i don't know... you try.

i thought wpb summed it up real good.

"the ascension to becoming God is about casting off power and
control."

i really had to think about that. and then i understood it

is that enlightenment

or just another step beginning somewhere else

and in a different direction

(but of course this endorsement comes in the prospect of getting a
date with wpb)

[Wet Paper Bag]

On May 17, 4:17 am, Tim <8.tim.har...@gmail.com> wrote:

> (but of course this endorsement comes in the prospect of getting a
> date with wpb)

hahaha... someone said crawling out of the sack at this hour to catch
this action would not be a waste of my time... groggy... hahaha...

is it that iiiiiii....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJL4UGSbeFg

"you wish fish..."

Tim

[Wet Paper Bag]

good to hear from you again zenworm... toughest act to follow... i do
not know the buttons to replicate that little squiggly line thing you
do... but i like it.

Lucifer

[x]

first you cast off the power and control of the world and take
responsibility then you recognize the mystery of your own will and all
beautiful patterns that we find in nature... how they work together and
depend on each other in some way or other...one senses themselves to be
part of a system of manifestation beyond governments and egos.

but it's a mystery for the conscious mind to grasp at this point and one
has to admit their own limitations in really knowing how it all works....

it's no excuse to ignore everything but just an admittance to limitation.

god especially has to be questioned in what we really know of it or one
is potentially going to fall into a number of traps rationality shouldn't
stoop into if it is really honest with itself and objective. although it
may seem as if there is or is not a god the meaning of the term should be
clarified to every rational listener and the basis of claims, how much it
is a hunch and how much it is empirically or logically valid measured...

etc, etc...

i may have thoughts myself but tend to fall back on a concept of mystery.

[Tim]

On May 17, 4:36 am, Wet Paper Bag <ultimate.henchman....@gmail.com>
wrote:

hahaha... as always it is my privilege to be your poster boy for
the... i am not gay but if i had to fuck a man you would be it
poster...

Luicfer

[Tim]

On May 17, 5:11 am, x <x...@x.org> wrote:

> first you cast off the power and control of the world and take
> responsibility then you recognize the mystery of your own will and all

wait now. cast off and take?... there must be a catch yes?

> beautiful patterns that we find in nature... how they work together and
> depend on each other in some way or other...one senses themselves to be
> part of a system of manifestation beyond governments and egos.

insightful but again, too late... you opted out of nationals this year
and i gave your place to albion. there is nothing i can do. unless you
think there is wisdom in running a horse that isn't in a race?

> but it's a mystery for the conscious mind to grasp at this point and one
> has to admit their own limitations in really knowing how it all works....

you give up to easy. are you sure this is right? jump. fall. no
exceptions. the question then becomes one of making exceptions and
believing them. how much of this story is about adam and eve trying to
escape? after all, i did point out the tree and certainly... they are
allowed to look, to love, to cherish, to enshrine... perhaps even a
touch or two... but do not eat is all i said. do not remove.

> it's no excuse to ignore everything but just an admittance to limitation.

out of control and helpless brings out the best in human kind...

> god especially has to be questioned in what we really know of it or one
> is potentially going to fall into a number of traps rationality shouldn't
> stoop into if it is really honest with itself and objective. although it

hard to be honest when you do not know what the truth is, and thus, as
far as truth goes, your honesty is why the shit is sinking...

> may seem as if there is or is not a god the meaning of the term should be
> clarified to every rational listener and the basis of claims, how much it
> is a hunch and how much it is empirically or logically valid measured...

ahhh... grasshopper... in light of my being... what i have shown you
about my nature, what i can do, what i am... and what have i shown you
about being human?

if I AM, it is better not to be. after all, duality is an excuse. a
human shame impulse. but, in the same sense, a weapon.

> etc, etc...

yoda, yoda...

> i may have thoughts myself but tend to fall back on a concept of mystery.

imagine the music stopping and no one gets a chair... obviously this
will be a time of violent change... what other choice is there being
that I AM.

the hammer had to come down sometime and when it did, being fresh and
new, all who fall into those brackets are lost... you should have no
disillusions about this... it is, as you say, rational and logical.

the only real message i have for your species is regarding the
obviousness of the weakness for debauchery when one suffers a loss...
yes, it does continue to add up and no, even i have not seen its
bottom... things can always and do get worse...

Lucifer

[x]

On Fri, 17 May 2013 04:42:43 -0700, Tim wrote:

> On May 17, 5:11 am, x <x...@x.org> wrote:
>
>> first you cast off the power and control of the world and take
>> responsibility then you recognize the mystery of your own will and all
>
> wait now. cast off and take?... there must be a catch yes?

you have to give credit to aleister crowley.

>
>> beautiful patterns that we find in nature... how they work together and
>> depend on each other in some way or other...one senses themselves to be
>> part of a system of manifestation beyond governments and egos.
>
> insightful but again, too late... you opted out of nationals this year
> and i gave your place to albion. there is nothing i can do. unless you
> think there is wisdom in running a horse that isn't in a race?

the exercise?

>
>> but it's a mystery for the conscious mind to grasp at this point and
>> one has to admit their own limitations in really knowing how it all
>> works....
>
> you give up to easy. are you sure this is right? jump. fall. no
> exceptions. the question then becomes one of making exceptions and
> believing them. how much of this story is about adam and eve trying to
> escape? after all, i did point out the tree and certainly... they are
> allowed to look, to love, to cherish, to enshrine... perhaps even a
> touch or two... but do not eat is all i said. do not remove.

you know how fond i am of plastic.

>
>> it's no excuse to ignore everything but just an admittance to
>> limitation.
>
> out of control and helpless brings out the best in human kind...

i notice something like this in the tibetans.

that's all i'll say. i just hope it's not all for survival and publicity
catering to the western civilizations appetite to discover victims of
enemies and parade them as an excuse for further conflict, or on the
deeper level appealing to our loss of "spirituality" in christianity but
i suppose it's better to resort to tibetan buddhism than most white trash
regardless of the mixed motives. a lot of their theory does seem to be
supportable by experiment on deeper levels than material, it seems to
have an emphasis on that as opposed to a metaphysical dogma for morons...
the new world is still fumbling around with our neurological maps and
technologies and have hardly any clue about our own mind..but we are a
little too needy for someone outside, it is a void filled by manipulators.

that's all i'll say.

>
>> god especially has to be questioned in what we really know of it or one
>> is potentially going to fall into a number of traps rationality
>> shouldn't stoop into if it is really honest with itself and objective.
>> although it
>
> hard to be honest when you do not know what the truth is, and thus, as
> far as truth goes, your honesty is why the shit is sinking...

the stone of "the truth" doesn't even stand without heavy lifting.

>
>
>> may seem as if there is or is not a god the meaning of the term should
>> be clarified to every rational listener and the basis of claims, how
>> much it is a hunch and how much it is empirically or logically valid
>> measured...
>
> ahhh... grasshopper... in light of my being... what i have shown you
> about my nature, what i can do, what i am... and what have i shown you
> about being human?
>
> if I AM, it is better not to be. after all, duality is an excuse. a
> human shame impulse. but, in the same sense, a weapon.
>

no third option?

>> etc, etc...
>
> yoda, yoda...
>
>> i may have thoughts myself but tend to fall back on a concept of
>> mystery.
>
> imagine the music stopping and no one gets a chair... obviously this
> will be a time of violent change... what other choice is there being
> that I AM.

so am i..i think. it's another perspective.

>
> the hammer had to come down sometime and when it did, being fresh and
> new, all who fall into those brackets are lost... you should have no
> disillusions about this... it is, as you say, rational and logical.
>
> the only real message i have for your species is regarding the
> obviousness of the weakness for debauchery when one suffers a loss...
> yes, it does continue to add up and no, even i have not seen its
> bottom... things can always and do get worse...
>
> Lucifer

i'm a fan of 2000AD comics so i have a twisted perspective on the future,
whatever it is i look forward to it as long as it's something different..

[Tim]

On May 17, 6:45 am, x <x...@x.org> wrote:

> > wait now. cast off and take?... there must be a catch yes?
>
> you have to give credit to aleister crowley.

i give plenty of credit to crowley. more than he deserves in light of
the lesson... i mean you all seem to forget, the guy was a buddhist
master, a yogi, a philosophical miracle... and man before his time...
but wa he trying to create his time? or merely reacting to the Jews
the same way anyone would who is being persecuted by them?

being he was those things first... is it possible then that most of
that trash is jealous golden dawn bullshit designed to take away or
reduce his influence? di i not ultimately adopt the same role? so...
you mother fuckers want to jump do you?

> > think there is wisdom in running a horse that isn't in a race?
>
> the exercise?

toche'... how many marathons does a marathon runner run before race
day?

> > hard to be honest when you do not know what the truth is, and thus, as
> > far as truth goes, your honesty is why the shit is sinking...
>
> the stone of "the truth" doesn't even stand without heavy lifting.

:) ... nice... in deed the pond makes stillness look effortless.

> > if I AM, it is better not to be. after all, duality is an excuse. a
> > human shame impulse. but, in the same sense, a weapon.
>
> no third option?

yes. you already touched on it once... let me touch it again... making
mastery look easy is the sure way to run down the fools... i remember
the first time someone did a back flip on a motor cycle... practiced
for a long time... then the show... and he delivers... his rival
however?... up he goes and down he comes... crash... a splendid
example.

but alas for your weak... but strengthening... faith... notice when i
responded to your (quote me) post, and said liaM got the victory, then
made a trade mark smiley face... how you jumped down to monkey's zen
wormness post, hit liaM... and started fighting... on so many levels
x... would you have done the same if it meant taking me on?... and
would liaM have found the nads to start a posting flurry?

> so am i..i think. it's another perspective.

same Law... no exceptions. kind the point me thinks.

the new DSM or DMS 5... head doctor's bible is out... they believe
there is something wrong with you... but in fact, the brain is an
engine without a driver... can a thing be more than it is without
something else? can a set of chemicals react any other way then the
way we know they react?

the brain is a garbage can... just think about that for a moment while
i make it clear... go to the store... buy a chocolate bar... come
home... take off the wrapper... eat the chocolate bar... go wash your
hands and face... everything is consumed you see... except the
wrapper... it must go somewhere... a memory. trash.

> i'm a fan of 2000AD comics so i have a twisted perspective on the future,
> whatever it is i look forward to it as long as it's something different..

not pain... good luck... try composting... get the plastic out...

Lucifer