Google Groups no longer supports new Usenet posts or subscriptions. Historical content remains viewable.
Dismiss

Prize Competition: Find A Name For Gliese581g

0 views
Skip to first unread message

Alex Sumner

unread,
Oct 1, 2010, 5:48:50 AM10/1/10
to
Aliens are “certain to exist” on Planet Gliese 581g – so say
scientists from the Carnegie Institution in Washington.* Gliese 581g
orbits red dwarf Gliese 581, which is 20 light years away in the
constellation of Libra. Thank God for the precession of the equinoxes
– otherwise we would not be able to see it, due to the Sun being in
the way!

However, there is something wrong with this whole deal – its name.
Seriously, what kind of name is “Gliese 581g” ? Are we actually going
to go there are start talking to the locals like “Hi, Gliese-five-
eight-one-geeans!” Or even, if we want to be grossly patronising,
“Greetings, Gliese-five-eight-one-gee-lings!” Clearly this is absurd.

Which is why I am announcing a prize competition to find a name for
Gliese 581g. The first prize is a signed copy of both my first and my
second novels, “The Magus” and “Opus Secunda.” Ten runners up will get
signed “Alex Sumner” posters.

To enter, simply do the following:

1. Using the Contact Alex tab on my website - http://solascendans.com/contact-alex/
- send me a private message containing your suggestion, your name
(i.e. for whom the books / prizes will be autographed), and a valid
mailing address (anywhere in the world);

2. Subscribe to the RSS / Email feed for my website - www.solascendans.com
- AND

3. Mention this competition (including a link) on either Twitter,
Facebook, or your own blog (please provide details of your Twitter /
Facebook / blog so I can check it out).

Entries will be judged on both entertainment value and *evidence that
you have used ritual magick or telepathy to contact the residents of
Gliese 581g to actually get the right answer.* ;-)

The closing date for the competition is Sunday 24th October 2010.
Answers will be announced on my blog on Sunday 31st October 2010.

Good luck! :)

Alex Sumner


* Original news story: http://bit.ly/dBLwFZ

Sir Gilligan Horry

unread,
Oct 1, 2010, 7:19:28 AM10/1/10
to
On Fri, 1 Oct 2010 02:48:50 -0700 (PDT), Alex Sumner
<alex_...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> find a name for Gliese 581g.

Ok, how about calling the planet...

"Sir-Artio-CB-Radio-28/9-Planet".

It's a planet with 100% proof of 57,945 extraterrestrials on the
radios 28 hours a day, 9 days a week. And the population is busy 99%
of the time listening to all that proof, while chewing on dried
moagosteens...

http://www.brooklynpaper.com/assets/photos/30/32/30_32_mangosteens_z.jpg

The population there will start a galactic war
because you didn't ask them if you could
name their planet.

It's OK, the President of the USA
will not give Disclosure.
So you'll never know what hit yah!

http://www.robertxgillis.com/uploaded_images/moon_explodes-703972.jpg

How do you like the Universe now ?

___

P.S.
Reality is worse than that.

___

___
___
___

I am Video Blogging now, becoming The Wealthiest Most Popular World Famous Genius YouTube Video Personality!!!

"Jims Space Agency"

http://www.YouTube.com/JimsSpaceAgency

http://www.squidoo.com/Aliens-UFOs-Latest-News

http://hubpages.com/hub/Aliens-UFOs-Latest-News

___

Tom

unread,
Oct 1, 2010, 12:16:04 PM10/1/10
to
On Oct 1, 2:48 am, Alex Sumner <alex_sum...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> Aliens are “certain to exist” on Planet Gliese 581g – so say
> scientists from the Carnegie Institution in Washington.*

Well, actually, so said one scientist at a news conference. As
individuals, scientists are just as welcome to their opinions as
anybody else, but let's not make the mistake of conflating the
scientist's opinions with the scientist's actual findings.

> However, there is something wrong with this whole deal – its name.
> Seriously, what kind of name is “Gliese 581g” ? Are we actually going
> to go there are start talking to the locals like “Hi, Gliese-five-
> eight-one-geeans!”

No, we start talking to the locals by saying "Hi, we call ourselves
humans. What do you call yourselves?" Then we realize that they don't
speak English, so we talk louder.

Dorothy J Heydt

unread,
Oct 1, 2010, 12:34:52 PM10/1/10
to
In article <7932b405-9e61-4288...@j24g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>,

One of the astronomers has already named it after his wife.
Whether the IAU will listen to you, him, both, or neither remains
to be seen.

--
Dorothy J. Heydt
Vallejo, California
djheydt at gmail dot com
Should you wish to email me, you'd better use the gmail edress.
Kithrup's all spammy and hotmail's been hacked.

Dan Goodman

unread,
Oct 1, 2010, 2:29:36 PM10/1/10
to
Dorothy J Heydt wrote:

> One of the astronomers has already named it after his wife.

That's one advantage of monogamy -- no hurt feelings from other
wives....

--
Dan Goodman
"I have always depended on the kindness of stranglers."
Tennessee Williams, A Streetcar Named Expire
Journal dsgood.dreamwidth.org (livejournal.com, insanejournal.com)

Dorothy J Heydt

unread,
Oct 1, 2010, 2:43:56 PM10/1/10
to
In article <4ca62890$0$55712$8046...@auth.newsreader.iphouse.com>,

Dan Goodman <dsg...@iphouse.com> wrote:
>Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
>
>> One of the astronomers has already named it after his wife.
>
>That's one advantage of monogamy -- no hurt feelings from other
>wives....

One of many.

Advantages, that is.

Suzanne Blom

unread,
Oct 1, 2010, 4:17:17 PM10/1/10
to
On 10/1/2010 1:43 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
> In article<4ca62890$0$55712$8046...@auth.newsreader.iphouse.com>,
> Dan Goodman<dsg...@iphouse.com> wrote:
>> Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
>>
>>> One of the astronomers has already named it after his wife.
>>
>> That's one advantage of monogamy -- no hurt feelings from other
>> wives....
>
> One of many.
>
> Advantages, that is.
>
Yeah, but there are only two people to clean the house!

Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)

unread,
Oct 1, 2010, 4:18:29 PM10/1/10
to

Also only two people (in the base case) to mess it up or to put off
cleaning the house!

--
Sea Wasp
/^\
;;;
Website: http://www.grandcentralarena.com Blog:
http://seawasp.livejournal.com

J.Pascal

unread,
Oct 1, 2010, 4:58:21 PM10/1/10
to
On Oct 1, 10:34 am, djhe...@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) wrote:
> In article <7932b405-9e61-4288-bdd0-ce5b7aa0f...@j24g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>,

I thought that was one of the perks of discovering things. You get
to name them after yourself (for example any number of latinized names
of guys who found "new" plants) or after friends or family members or
the dog.

Does anyone know what his wife's name is?

-Julie

Dorothy J Heydt

unread,
Oct 1, 2010, 4:39:34 PM10/1/10
to
In article <i85fk8$buv$1...@news.eternal-september.org>,

There are a MAXIMUM of two people to clean the house.

Back in the days of hippie communes, you would frequently get a
household of, say, fifteen people, six of whom would clean the
house. The other nine would say, "Huh? What? The floor is
clean enough! I picked up the newspapers off it. Well, most of
them."

Dan Goodman

unread,
Oct 1, 2010, 7:19:27 PM10/1/10
to
Suzanne Blom wrote:

No, you have your kids clean the house when they're old enough.

Dorothy J Heydt

unread,
Oct 1, 2010, 8:07:47 PM10/1/10
to
In article <4ca66c7e$0$55712$8046...@auth.newsreader.iphouse.com>,

Dan Goodman <dsg...@iphouse.com> wrote:
>Suzanne Blom wrote:
>
>> On 10/1/2010 1:43 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
>> > In article<4ca62890$0$55712$8046...@auth.newsreader.iphouse.com>,
>> >Dan Goodman<dsg...@iphouse.com> wrote:
>> > > Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > One of the astronomers has already named it after his wife.
>> > >
>> > > That's one advantage of monogamy -- no hurt feelings from other
>> > > wives....
>> >
>> > One of many.
>> >
>> > Advantages, that is.
>> >
>> Yeah, but there are only two people to clean the house!
>
>No, you have your kids clean the house when they're old enough.

I wonder if I could have done that. I don't think so. By the
time they were old enough, I was way way down with CFS and hadn't
the ability to make anybody do anything. The house sort of went
any which way. My son subsequently became very very good at
cleaning his own apartment, but that was after he was grown and
not living with us. My daughter now has the ambition to keep her
house clean, but she also has a two-year-old and Too Much Stuff.
She's still better at it than I was.

Joy Beeson

unread,
Oct 1, 2010, 11:54:05 PM10/1/10
to
On Fri, 01 Oct 2010 15:17:17 -0500, Suzanne Blom <bo...@sueblom.net>
wrote:

> Yeah, but there are only two people to clean the house!

Doesn't necessarily help. In the polygynous society I created for
"The Dying Demon", each wife has her own hut. I believe that some
real-life polygynous societies also had separate households.

--
Joy Beeson
joy beeson at comcast dot net
http://roughsewing.home.comcast.net/
The above message is a Usenet post.
I don't recall having given anyone permission to use it on a Web site.

Dorothy J Heydt

unread,
Oct 2, 2010, 1:05:50 AM10/2/10
to
In article <d3bda65hmg0f4od50...@4ax.com>,

Joy Beeson <jbe...@invalid.net.invalid> wrote:
>On Fri, 01 Oct 2010 15:17:17 -0500, Suzanne Blom <bo...@sueblom.net>
>wrote:
>
>> Yeah, but there are only two people to clean the house!
>
>Doesn't necessarily help. In the polygynous society I created for
>"The Dying Demon", each wife has her own hut. I believe that some
>real-life polygynous societies also had separate households.

That might not be too bad, if the husband doesn't hang out in any
of the huts long enough to mess them up. (Where does he live?
Under a tree?)

John F. Eldredge

unread,
Oct 2, 2010, 9:57:14 AM10/2/10
to
On Sat, 02 Oct 2010 05:05:50 +0000, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:

> In article <d3bda65hmg0f4od50...@4ax.com>, Joy Beeson
> <jbe...@invalid.net.invalid> wrote:
>>On Fri, 01 Oct 2010 15:17:17 -0500, Suzanne Blom <bo...@sueblom.net>
>>wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah, but there are only two people to clean the house!
>>
>>Doesn't necessarily help. In the polygynous society I created for "The
>>Dying Demon", each wife has her own hut. I believe that some real-life
>>polygynous societies also had separate households.
>
> That might not be too bad, if the husband doesn't hang out in any of the
> huts long enough to mess them up. (Where does he live? Under a tree?)

In some polygynous African cultures, the traditional architecture is to
have a compound containing multiple small huts. Each wife has her own
hut; there is an additional hut for the husband. There may also be
additional huts that serve as dormitories for the older children (the
young children stay with their mothers).

--
John F. Eldredge -- jo...@jfeldredge.com
"Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly
is better than not to think at all." -- Hypatia of Alexandria

Mike Duffy

unread,
Oct 2, 2010, 10:28:00 AM10/2/10
to
"John F. Eldredge" <jo...@jfeldredge.com> wrote in
news:8gos1p...@mid.individual.net:


> In some polygynous African cultures, the traditional architecture
> is to have a compound containing multiple small huts. Each wife
> has her own hut; there is an additional hut for the husband.

But do they have additional huts for the garden tools, etc.?

--
http://pages.videotron.com/duffym/index.htm

Bill Swears

unread,
Oct 2, 2010, 11:59:47 AM10/2/10
to
On 10/2/2010 6:28 AM, Mike Duffy wrote:
> "John F. Eldredge"<jo...@jfeldredge.com> wrote in
> news:8gos1p...@mid.individual.net:
>
>
>> In some polygynous African cultures, the traditional architecture
>> is to have a compound containing multiple small huts. Each wife
>> has her own hut; there is an additional hut for the husband.
>
> But do they have additional huts for the garden tools, etc.?
>
And, of course, do they really exist?

Bill

--
Puppies - http://www.mtaonline.net/~wswears/
Opinions - http://wswears.livejournal.com/
Touristy Stuff and a resume - http://home.gci.net/~wswears/Bill's1.htm

Dorothy J Heydt

unread,
Oct 2, 2010, 1:00:44 PM10/2/10
to
In article <8gos1p...@mid.individual.net>,

John F. Eldredge <jo...@jfeldredge.com> wrote:
>On Sat, 02 Oct 2010 05:05:50 +0000, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
>
>> In article <d3bda65hmg0f4od50...@4ax.com>, Joy Beeson
>> <jbe...@invalid.net.invalid> wrote:
>>>On Fri, 01 Oct 2010 15:17:17 -0500, Suzanne Blom <bo...@sueblom.net>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yeah, but there are only two people to clean the house!
>>>
>>>Doesn't necessarily help. In the polygynous society I created for "The
>>>Dying Demon", each wife has her own hut. I believe that some real-life
>>>polygynous societies also had separate households.
>>
>> That might not be too bad, if the husband doesn't hang out in any of the
>> huts long enough to mess them up. (Where does he live? Under a tree?)
>
>In some polygynous African cultures, the traditional architecture is to
>have a compound containing multiple small huts. Each wife has her own
>hut; there is an additional hut for the husband. There may also be
>additional huts that serve as dormitories for the older children (the
>young children stay with their mothers).

And who has to clean those? I'm chiefly interested in who has to
clean the husband's hut. I'm assuming (perhaps incorrectly but I
doubt it) that he does not clean it himself.

Message has been deleted

John F. Eldredge

unread,
Oct 2, 2010, 11:24:12 PM10/2/10
to
On Sat, 02 Oct 2010 17:00:44 +0000, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:

> In article <8gos1p...@mid.individual.net>, John F. Eldredge
> <jo...@jfeldredge.com> wrote:
>>On Sat, 02 Oct 2010 05:05:50 +0000, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
>>
>>> In article <d3bda65hmg0f4od50...@4ax.com>, Joy Beeson
>>> <jbe...@invalid.net.invalid> wrote:
>>>>On Fri, 01 Oct 2010 15:17:17 -0500, Suzanne Blom <bo...@sueblom.net>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Yeah, but there are only two people to clean the house!
>>>>
>>>>Doesn't necessarily help. In the polygynous society I created for
>>>>"The Dying Demon", each wife has her own hut. I believe that some
>>>>real-life polygynous societies also had separate households.
>>>
>>> That might not be too bad, if the husband doesn't hang out in any of
>>> the huts long enough to mess them up. (Where does he live? Under a
>>> tree?)
>>
>>In some polygynous African cultures, the traditional architecture is to
>>have a compound containing multiple small huts. Each wife has her own
>>hut; there is an additional hut for the husband. There may also be
>>additional huts that serve as dormitories for the older children (the
>>young children stay with their mothers).
>
> And who has to clean those? I'm chiefly interested in who has to clean
> the husband's hut. I'm assuming (perhaps incorrectly but I doubt it)
> that he does not clean it himself.

My guess would be the lowest-status wife, or a servant if the household
has any servants. Another possibility would be one of the kids (and, in
a multi-wife household, there are likely to be lots of kids unless the
husband is sterile).

J.Pascal

unread,
Oct 3, 2010, 11:33:33 AM10/3/10
to
On Oct 2, 9:24 pm, "John F. Eldredge" <j...@jfeldredge.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 02 Oct 2010 17:00:44 +0000, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
> > In article <8gos1pFd4...@mid.individual.net>, John F. Eldredge

> > <j...@jfeldredge.com> wrote:
> >>On Sat, 02 Oct 2010 05:05:50 +0000, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
>
> >>> In article <d3bda65hmg0f4od50kqpdd8v56hnc8r...@4ax.com>, Joy Beeson

> >>> <jbee...@invalid.net.invalid> wrote:
> >>>>On Fri, 01 Oct 2010 15:17:17 -0500, Suzanne Blom <bo...@sueblom.net>
> >>>>wrote:
>
> >>>>> Yeah, but there are only two people to clean the house!
>
> >>>>Doesn't necessarily help.  In the polygynous society I created for
> >>>>"The Dying Demon", each wife has her own hut.  I believe that some
> >>>>real-life polygynous societies also had separate households.
>
> >>> That might not be too bad, if the husband doesn't hang out in any of
> >>> the huts long enough to mess them up.  (Where does he live? Under a
> >>> tree?)
>
> >>In some polygynous African cultures, the traditional architecture is to
> >>have a compound containing multiple small huts.  Each wife has her own
> >>hut; there is an additional hut for the husband.  There may also be
> >>additional huts that serve as dormitories for the older children (the
> >>young children stay with their mothers).
>
> > And who has to clean those?  I'm chiefly interested in who has to clean
> > the husband's hut.  I'm assuming (perhaps incorrectly but I doubt it)
> > that he does not clean it himself.
>
> My guess would be the lowest-status wife, or a servant if the household
> has any servants.  Another possibility would be one of the kids (and, in
> a multi-wife household, there are likely to be lots of kids unless the
> husband is sterile).

Or the highest status wife, the others not being allowed into the
husband's hut and into his private space.

-Julie

Dorothy J Heydt

unread,
Oct 3, 2010, 12:44:41 PM10/3/10
to
In article <16834e5c-2091-463b...@k22g2000prb.googlegroups.com>,

A reason not to seek high status, if you ask me.

James A. Donald

unread,
Oct 4, 2010, 11:04:39 PM10/4/10
to
On Sun, 3 Oct 2010 08:33:33 -0700 (PDT), "J.Pascal" <ju...@pascal.org>
wrote:

> Or the highest status wife, the others not being allowed into the
> husband's hut and into his private space.

Islam theoretically has all wives equal. Most polygamous societies,
however, have a senior wife who has charge of the household, with her
authority within that sphere exceeding her husbands. So the senior
wife decides who cleans the husband's hut - and the husband does not.

0 new messages