Who's the guy with the short fuse and the busted caps-lock?
paul...@lan2wan.com
turd. But his posts are only semi-coherent, and so I am having difficulty
determining what his problem is.
Paul
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Erwin Hessle
paul...@lan2wan.com wrote in message <6t44v2$er1$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...
>He seems to be upset a lot of the time, as well as being an offensive
little
>turd. But his posts are only semi-coherent, and so I am having difficulty
>determining what his problem is.
It's called "insecurity". "Jealousy" is also a part of this, as is
"hero-worship".
Erwin Hessle, 8=3
Will Parke
> He seems to be upset a lot of the time, as well as being an offensive little
> turd. But his posts are only semi-coherent, and so I am having difficulty
> determining what his problem is.
>
> Paul
He's jealous of anyone who isn't afraid of an expanding horizon. Oedipal issues
combined with deep seated homophobia. (Probably confused anal-oral stimulus as
a child)
Joseph
> He seems to be upset a lot of the time, as well as being an offensive little
> turd. But his posts are only semi-coherent, and so I am having difficulty
> determining what his problem is.
Hi Paul.
The story is too long to go into here, e-mail me or perhaps Charla
Williams if you care. Suffice to say that your description of
"semi-coherent" and "offensive little turd" are about all one needs to
know.
Tom Schuller e-mailed me and encouraged me to killfile the turkey, and I
think it has reached that point. The amusement factor has just about run
out. So I will henceforth refrain from baiting the guy any further, and
into the killfile he goes. I encourage others to do the same, except
perhaps for Erwin, since he does it so well.
If we ignore him, maybe he'll just post a few all-caps "I HAVE WON
HAHAHAHAHAHA!" messages and finally go away.
Boy, where's josh when we need him...?
- J:.M:.555
richard sprigg
>
> He seems to be upset a lot of the time, as well as being an offensive little
> turd. But his posts are only semi-coherent, and so I am having > difficulty determining what his problem is.
>
well, thank your stars for that!
I think it simply a case of "some are born to Twathood, so others have
Twathood forced upon them".
With the passing of Curley, the apprentices are fighting for the crown.
-ZZ
>> He seems to be upset a lot of the time, as well as being an offensive little
>> turd. But his posts are only semi-coherent, and so I am having difficulty
>> determining what his problem is.
>The story is too long to go into here, e-mail me or perhaps Charla
>Williams if you care. Suffice to say that your description of
>"semi-coherent" and "offensive little turd" are about all one needs to
>know.
>
>Tom Schuller e-mailed me and encouraged me to killfile the turkey, and I
>think it has reached that point. The amusement factor has just about run
>out. So I will henceforth refrain from baiting the guy any further, and
>into the killfile he goes. I encourage others to do the same, except
>perhaps for Erwin, since he does it so well.
Yes, that would be good.
Joseph, Ludvig, Richard, Erwin et al,
I'm appealing to you (or so I'd like to think).
No, sorry, there was more to it than that.
I'm appealing to you to give up on dm_telvis and stop resonding to
him. We all know how the exchange is going to go. If you want (and
pay me), I can generate an alt.magick vs dm_telvis dialogue generator
in the style of... oh, what was it's name, erm... Edith, Vera, erm...
Eliza? You know that text-parsing psychoanalysis chappie that came
out years ago.
However, as has been pointed out, the majority of traffic at the
moment is in honour of dm_telvis, and it just isn't worth it.
Go on... you know you want to...
-ZZ
Cro-Magnon Herder
wrote:
>On Tue, 8 Sep 1998 19:11:30 -0700, Joseph <ma...@slip.net> wrote:
>
>>> He seems to be upset a lot of the time, as well as being an offensive little
>>> turd. But his posts are only semi-coherent, and so I am having difficulty
>>> determining what his problem is.
>
>>The story is too long to go into here, e-mail me or perhaps Charla
>>Williams if you care. Suffice to say that your description of
>>"semi-coherent" and "offensive little turd" are about all one needs to
>>know.
>>
>>Tom Schuller e-mailed me and encouraged me to killfile the turkey, and I
>>think it has reached that point. The amusement factor has just about run
>>out. So I will henceforth refrain from baiting the guy any further, and
>>into the killfile he goes. I encourage others to do the same, except
>>perhaps for Erwin, since he does it so well.
>
>Yes, that would be good.
>
>Joseph, Ludvig, Richard, Erwin et al,
Hey!
>I'm appealing to you (or so I'd like to think).
>
>No, sorry, there was more to it than that.
>
>I'm appealing to you to give up on dm_telvis and stop resonding to
>him. We all know how the exchange is going to go. If you want (and
>pay me), I can generate an alt.magick vs dm_telvis dialogue generator
>in the style of... oh, what was it's name, erm... Edith, Vera, erm...
>Eliza? You know that text-parsing psychoanalysis chappie that came
>out years ago.
>
>However, as has been pointed out, the majority of traffic at the
>moment is in honour of dm_telvis, and it just isn't worth it.
>
>Go on... you know you want to...
>
>-ZZ
I've already decided to stop. He can't answer my challenge and he's
incapable of rational dialogue, so I win, and when I win I stop
playing.
Now, Zez, got any interesting magickal nibbles to set us arguing over?
We'll all have a lot of time on our hands now that we've stopped
baiting the bore, as it were.
Cro, who didn't make the list. *pout*
--
this .sig is in memoriam to Akira Kurosawa, born 1910
died 6 September 1998 12:42 JST. Kurosawa was and
remains one of the greatest directors of all time.
He is the only one of all, at the least, to move me.
Please visit the Akira Kurosawa Database:
http://www2.tky.3web.ne.jp/~adk/kurosawa/AKpage.html
Will Parke
> >Joseph, Ludvig, Richard, Erwin et al,
>
> Hey!
> Cro, who didn't make the list. *pout*
What are you whining about? Telvy-poo still re:'s to you . . . all I can get
anymore are Sprigg and sy (I think) talking about Crowley's misogyny . . . (fucking
technical scholarly discussion . . .)
It's starting to feel like trolling Xian IRC channels for cybersex . . .
-Hah. Nevermind.
"'Out of the way, it's a busy day,
I've got things on my mind!'
But for the price of tea and a slice
The old man died . . ."
-"Us & Them," Pink Floyd
-ZZ
(Cro-Magnon Herder) wrote:
>I've already decided to stop. He can't answer my challenge and he's
>incapable of rational dialogue, so I win, and when I win I stop
>playing.
Hurrah!
>Now, Zez, got any interesting magickal nibbles to set us arguing over?
>We'll all have a lot of time on our hands now that we've stopped
>baiting the bore, as it were.
1. Does your True Will ever 'communicate' or 'cooperate' with other
True Wills?
2. By what ethical guidelines does your True Will operate?
>Cro, who didn't make the list. *pout*
Sorry about that, I was just going from immediate memory. I should
have added you. I was remiss.
-ZZ
dm_tel...@my-dejanews.com
pup...@hotmail.com.spamn't (Cro-Magnon Herder) wrote:
> wrote:
>
> >On Tue, 8 Sep 1998 19:11:30 -0700, Joseph <ma...@slip.net> wrote:
> >
> >>> He seems to be upset a lot of the time, as well as being an offensive
little
> >>> turd. But his posts are only semi-coherent, and so I am having difficulty
> >>> determining what his problem is.
> >
> >>The story is too long to go into here, e-mail me or perhaps Charla
> >>Williams if you care. Suffice to say that your description of
> >>"semi-coherent" and "offensive little turd" are about all one needs to
> >>know.
> >>
> >>Tom Schuller e-mailed me and encouraged me to killfile the turkey, and I
> >>think it has reached that point. The amusement factor has just about run
> >>out. So I will henceforth refrain from baiting the guy any further, and
> >>into the killfile he goes. I encourage others to do the same, except
> >>perhaps for Erwin, since he does it so well.
> >
> >Yes, that would be good.
> >
>
> Hey!
>
> >
> >No, sorry, there was more to it than that.
> >
> >I'm appealing to you to give up on dm_telvis and stop resonding to
> >him. We all know how the exchange is going to go. If you want (and
> >pay me), I can generate an alt.magick vs dm_telvis dialogue generator
> >in the style of... oh, what was it's name, erm... Edith, Vera, erm...
> >Eliza? You know that text-parsing psychoanalysis chappie that came
> >out years ago.
> >
> >However, as has been pointed out, the majority of traffic at the
> >moment is in honour of dm_telvis, and it just isn't worth it.
> >
> >Go on... you know you want to...
> >
> >-ZZ
>
been there. done that.
and he's
> incapable of rational dialogue, so I win
DREAM THIS LITTLE DREAM, IF IT MAKES YOU FEEL BETTER.
BUT SAYING IT "DON'T" MAKE IT SO...YOU HAVE LOST,
AND YOU HAVE LOST COMPLETELY. WHERE *ARE* *YOUR* PAPERS, JUNIOR?
, and when I win I stop
> playing.
>
> Now, Zez, got any interesting magickal nibbles to set us arguing over?
> We'll all have a lot of time on our hands now that we've stopped
> baiting the bore, as it were.
>
> Cro, who didn't make the list. *pout*
> --
> this .sig is in memoriam to Akira Kurosawa, born 1910
> died 6 September 1998 12:42 JST. Kurosawa was and
> remains one of the greatest directors of all time.
> He is the only one of all, at the least, to move me.
> Please visit the Akira Kurosawa Database:
> http://www2.tky.3web.ne.jp/~adk/kurosawa/AKpage.html
>
> pup...@hotmail.com
>
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Erwin Hessle
dm_tel...@my-dejanews.com wrote in message
<6t6kvs$2mf$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...
> WHERE *ARE* *YOUR* PAPERS, JUNIOR?
Where are *your* papers? I mean the ones you wrote, not the ones you stole.
Erwin Hessle, 8=3
Charla J. Williams
paul...@lan2wan.com wrote:
: He seems to be upset a lot of the time, as well as being an
: offensive little turd.
He has a reputation in both the Seattle and Portland thelemic
communities. I'm not sure where else. When I met him
briefly in early 1995 I thought I had met my first
fundamentalist Thelemite. If you weren't doing things
Crowley's way, you weren't doing them the right way and
his initiator at Horizon Oasis was the neatest thing since
sliced bread.
The next time I had any awareness of Christopher was when
he was posting on alt. magick under the 'Caliphate OTO
fraud' thread and offering to send people zipped files of the
real truth. I didn't see the files Chris was distributing but
I am told they contained material off of both Peter Koenig's
and the Australian SOTO websites. Then he went away again.
The 'Caliphate OTO fraud' period is when he was forging
emails all over the place originating from marsweb. Also
I think several thelemic websites received weird email
from him. The fiaof93 email address was probably the most
common then.
The next I heard or cared anything was when it came to my
attention that somebody had forged a post to look like it
came from me on a drug related board on the net. There are
a lot of people on this drug board who don't like Chris and
somebody dug up old Usenet posts in creating a forgery from
me. Not being a frequenter of drug boards, I would not have
known about this had somebody not posted something to alt.magick.
: But his posts are only semi-coherent, and so I am having
: difficulty determining what his problem is.
My impression is that he posted something a little awhile ago
that the denizens of alt.magick tried to discuss rationally
and intellectualy with him but he resorted to quoting Ann Rand
(sp.?) and then disappeared before reappearing again for this
latest round.
I doubt if anybody involved in the current rounds of discussion
is taking him seriously (except his girlfriend) but that
many are enjoying getting a reaction out of him.
Anyways your contribution to the subject matter has been
appreciated from this coast of the U.S. All best regards.
93 93/93
Charla
Will Parke
richard sprigg wrote:
> Will Parke wrote:
> >
> > Cro-Magnon Herder wrote:
> >
> > > >Joseph, Ludvig, Richard, Erwin et al,
> > >
> > > Hey!
> >
> > > Cro, who didn't make the list. *pout*
> >
> > What are you whining about? Telvy-poo still re:'s to you . . . all I can get
> > anymore are Sprigg and sy (I think) talking about Crowley's misogyny . . . (fucking
> > technical scholarly discussion . . .)
> >
> > It's starting to feel like trolling Xian IRC channels for cybersex . . .
> >
> > -Hah. Nevermind.
> >
> > "'Out of the way, it's a busy day,
> > I've got things on my mind!'
> > But for the price of tea and a slice
> > The old man died . . ."
> > -"Us & Them," Pink Floyd
>
> "I am not frightened of dying, any time will do. Why should I be
> frightened of dying, there's no reason for it."
>
> same album.
>
> (not about crowley.)
"Make something of your life, boy,
Let me into your mind . . ."
Different album, not about Crowley.
Thanks tho. I feel appreciated now.
Locutus of Borg
paul...@lan2wan.com wrote in article <6t44v2$er1$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...
> He seems to be upset a lot of the time, as well as being an offensive
little
> turd. But his posts are only semi-coherent, and so I am having difficulty
> determining what his problem is.
>
> Paul
You know, I've been on the newsgroup for all of two minutes, and I already
know who you are talking about. :-)
Irritating, that's who he is.
richard sprigg
sole...@oath.com
> From: Joseph <ma...@slip.net>
[...]
> Tom Schuller e-mailed me and encouraged me to killfile the
> turkey, and I think it has reached that point. The amusement
> factor has just about run out. So I will henceforth refrain
> from baiting the guy any further, and into the killfile he
> goes.
Interesting. I have wondered for years why the really experienced folks
out here respond to these trolls, and this thread has raised my
understanding a bit -- it's the humor of it, isnt it? By egging them on,
they keep thrashing, and you find it, albeit perhaps somewhat perversely,
funny.
> If we ignore him, maybe he'll just post a few all-caps "I
> HAVE WON HAHAHAHAHAHA!" messages and finally go away.
Yeah, those driven by centers of Ego generally have a really strong need to
get in the last word. In my experience, the best way to help kill the
thread is to service that need by letting them have the last word. They
think they win, and go away happy. They go away, so we win and are happy.
It's sort of a fluffy bunny win/win situation.
I think I just retched!
>
> Boy, where's josh when we need him...?
>
What, to do the SUGA Ritual? Bah! Ignoring the screamers is the easiest
and most effective way to deal with them, killfile or no. I will admit,
however, that Josh's unmatched aptitude for the SUGA Ritual is a thing of
beauty to observe. Others try, but never quite deliver it with such grace
and attention to detail. But SUGA isn't the only -- or, in my opinion,
best -- way to handle these gnats.
Love is the law, love under will.
Solemnus, P.M.S.L. 185, W.W.B.D.
PER ME SPLENDET LUX
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dm_tel...@my-dejanews.com
char...@netcom.com (Charla J. Williams) wrote:
> 93 Paul,
>
> paul...@lan2wan.com wrote:
>
> : He seems to be upset a lot of the time, as well as being an
> : offensive little turd.
>
> He has a reputation in both the Seattle and Portland thelemic
> communities.
AN HONEST MAN IS NOT WELCOME AMONG CULTISTS AND CRACKPOTS.
I'm not sure where else. When I met him
> briefly in early 1995 I thought I had met my first
> fundamentalist Thelemite.
AND YOU STALKED THE HELL OUT OF ME WHEN I ENDED OUR SEXUAL RELATIONSHIP,
MAKING 40 CALLS A DAY TO MY PHONE, WHICH I STILL HAVE RECORDINGS OF.
PALYNE GAENIR FIELDED MOST OF THESE CALLS (A HOUSEGUEST OF MINE)
AND GOT DAMN SICK OF YOU CRASHING HER MODEM EVERY FIVE MINUTES
TO WEEP AND SCREAM ABOUT "ITS SUMMER SOLSTICE AND THE MAN I LOVE HAS
DESERTED ME"...NEED I GO ON? I TALKED WITH POLICE ABOUT GETTING A TRO
ON YOU,CHARLA, BUT AS YOU WERE ONLY A MASSIVE ANNOYANCE AND NOT A VIOLENT
THREAT, THEY DECLINED TO DO SO.
If you weren't doing things
> Crowley's way, you weren't doing them the right way and
> his initiator at Horizon Oasis was the neatest thing since
> sliced bread.
REALLY, AN EXAGGERATION....
>
> The next time I had any awareness of Christopher was when
> he was posting on alt. magick under the 'Caliphate OTO
> fraud' thread and offering to send people zipped files of the
> real truth. I didn't see the files Chris was distributing but
> I am told they contained material off of both Peter Koenig's
> and the Australian SOTO websites. Then he went away again.
BUSY WITH SCHOOL AND WORK...
>
> The 'Caliphate OTO fraud' period is when he was forging
> emails all over the place originating from marsweb.
THAT WASN'T ME. IP #'S ARE VULNERABLE THINGS.
Also
> I think several thelemic websites received weird email
> from him. The fiaof93 email address was probably the most
> common then.
>
> The next I heard or cared anything was when it came to my
> attention that somebody had forged a post to look like it
> came from me on a drug related board on the net. There are
> a lot of people on this drug board who don't like Chris and
> somebody dug up old Usenet posts in creating a forgery from
> me. Not being a frequenter of drug boards, I would not have
> known about this had somebody not posted something to alt.magick.
>
> : But his posts are only semi-coherent,
ONLY TO THE SEMI-LITERATE
and so I am having
> : difficulty determining what his problem is.
>
> My impression is that he posted something a little awhile ago
> that the denizens of alt.magick tried to discuss rationally
> and intellectualy with him but he resorted to quoting Ann Rand
> (sp.?)
NOT EVEN ONCE, THOUGH IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A GOOD THING TO DO.
and then disappeared before reappearing again for this
> latest round.
>
> I doubt if anybody involved in the current rounds of discussion
> is taking him seriously (except his girlfriend) but that
> many are enjoying getting a reaction out of him.
JOSEPH STOLE MY PAPER. NO ONE EVEN DENIES THAT.
>
> Anyways your contribution to the subject matter has been
> appreciated from this coast of the U.S. All best regards.
>
> 93 93/93
> Charla
>
> AND THAT'S THE BEST YOU CAN DO? WELL, WITH YOUR TINY YETI BRAIN, I
UNDERSTAND...HOW DID YOU EVER STOP HAVING ANAL SEX LONG ENOUGH TO POST
ANYTHING?
dm_tel...@my-dejanews.com
PROVE IT OR SHUT UP. YOU HAVE NOT A MICROGRAM OF EVIDENCE TO BACK UP
THIS ABSURD CLAIM.
>
> Erwin Hessle, 8=3
Charla J. Williams
: > The 'Caliphate OTO fraud' period is when he was forging
: > emails all over the place originating from marsweb.
: THAT WASN'T ME. IP #'S ARE VULNERABLE THINGS.
Sorry, everybody knows it was you and most of the folks
that got your forged emails shared it with other folks.
: JOSEPH STOLE MY PAPER. NO ONE EVEN DENIES THAT.
Probably because nobody believes it.
As somebody suggested tonight, time to take a lesson from
the 10th Aethyr.
Plonk.
Erwin Hessle
dm_tel...@my-dejanews.com wrote in message
<6t7e3l$96f$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...
>In article <905371850.21940.0...@news.demon.co.uk>,
> "Erwin Hessle" <er...@mcmail.NOSPAM.com> wrote:
>>
>> dm_tel...@my-dejanews.com wrote in message
>> <6t6kvs$2mf$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...
>>
>> > WHERE *ARE* *YOUR* PAPERS, JUNIOR?
>>
>> Where are *your* papers? I mean the ones you wrote, not the ones you
stole.
>
>
>PROVE IT OR SHUT UP. YOU HAVE NOT A MICROGRAM OF EVIDENCE TO BACK UP
>THIS ABSURD CLAIM.
It's already been proved countless times on this forum, beyond any
reasonable doubt, and your screaming just confirms this. You're trapped like
a rat in a hole, squealing to get out. You're a fraud, that's been exposed
now. No amount of crying is going to change that. People whose articles
you've stolen have confirmed it here, I don't know why you even bother to
argue, sunshine.
Erwin Hessle, 8=3
LudvigPrin
>
ooobabyooooobabyooooobabyOOOOO!
Anyway, kicking Chris Hughes' ass is kind of like playing paddleball. You know
the ball is going to come right back so you can smack it again. It's just one
of those mindless amusement thingies.
See, first it was Jesse, then it was whussisface, Koenig's toady, now it's
Chrissy....again.
As soon as an interesting topic comes along, Chris Hughes and his imaginary
plaything Nitwit will vanish.
Not forever, but for awhile.
_____________________________________
Ludvig Prinn
"They can hide the truth, but they cannot take away our desire for truth until
they take away our minds."
--Johannes Lynch
LudvigPrin
>True Wills?
Most always. That's how I know when I'm really on track, because things just
"fall into place" and everything suddenly becomes very easy. Peoples' Wills fit
together like gears. (Remember the Vision of the Machinery of the Universe?)
>2. By what ethical guidelines does your True Will operate?
None.
LudvigPrin
>Crowley's way, you weren't doing them the right way and
>his initiator at Horizon Oasis was the neatest thing since
>sliced bread.
Too bad the feeling wasn't mutual--he's still a long-running joke up here.
>The next time I had any awareness of Christopher was when
>he was posting on alt. magick under the 'Caliphate OTO
>fraud' thread and offering to send people zipped files of the
>real truth.
Those files were so comical. The content was much the same as his posts--all
speculation to back up further speculation.
>The 'Caliphate OTO fraud' period is when he was forging
>emails all over the place originating from marsweb.
Yes, and without bothering to think that maybe the people he was impersonating
were already known to the people he was mailing.
Kids these days, eh?
dm_tel...@my-dejanews.com
>
> : > The 'Caliphate OTO fraud' period is when he was forging
> : > emails all over the place originating from marsweb.
>
>
> Sorry, everybody knows it was you and most of the folks
> that got your forged emails shared it with other folks.
Prove it.
>
> : JOSEPH STOLE MY PAPER. NO ONE EVEN DENIES THAT.
>
> Probably because nobody believes it.
THE PAPER WAS ON HIS SITE. EVEN HESSLE POINTED IT OUT.
EVEN YOU SAW IT.
>
> As somebody suggested tonight, time to take a lesson from
> the 10th Aethyr.
>
GET SOME MEDICATION, YOU DEGENERATE YETI SODOMITE.
> Plonk.
dm_tel...@my-dejanews.com
"Erwin Hessle" <er...@mcmail.NOSPAM.com> wrote:
>
> dm_tel...@my-dejanews.com wrote in message
> <6t7e3l$96f$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...
> >In article <905371850.21940.0...@news.demon.co.uk>,
> > "Erwin Hessle" <er...@mcmail.NOSPAM.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> dm_tel...@my-dejanews.com wrote in message
> >> <6t6kvs$2mf$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...
> >>
> >> > WHERE *ARE* *YOUR* PAPERS, JUNIOR?
> >>
> >> Where are *your* papers? I mean the ones you wrote, not the ones you
> stole.
> >
> >
> >PROVE IT OR SHUT UP. YOU HAVE NOT A MICROGRAM OF EVIDENCE TO BACK UP
> >THIS ABSURD CLAIM.
>
> It's already been proved countless times on this forum, beyond any
> reasonable doubt, and your screaming just confirms this. You're trapped like
> a rat in a hole, squealing to get out. You're a fraud, that's been exposed
> now.
STATE THE EVIDENCE.
No amount of crying is going to change that. People whose articles
> you've stolen have confirmed it here,
WHEN AND WHERE?
I don't know why you even bother to
> argue, sunshine.
>
> Erwin Hessle, 8=3
>
>
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dm_tel...@my-dejanews.com
ludvi...@aol.com (LudvigPrin) wrote:
> >Joseph, Ludvig, Richard, Erwin et al,
> >
> >I'm appealing to you (or so I'd like to think).
>
> ooobabyooooobabyooooobabyOOOOO!
>
> Anyway, kicking Chris Hughes' ass
HAH!
IF WISHES WERE FISHES...BUT DENYING REALITY IS SO DEEPLY NECESSARY
TO MAGICAL THINKING, I CAN UNDERSTAND WHY YOU HAVE TO LIE.
W/O LIES, A MAGICAL WORLDVIEW CRUMBLES.
"IT IS AN IMMORAL ACT TO DENY MATERIAL REALITY".
is kind of like playing paddleball. You know
> the ball is going to come right back so you can smack it again. It's just one
> of those mindless amusement thingies.
>
> See, first it was Jesse, then it was whussisface, Koenig's toady, now it's
> Chrissy....again.
>
> As soon as an interesting topic comes along, Chris Hughes and his imaginary
> plaything Nitwit will vanish.
MAKE SOME SENSE. ARE YOU CAPABLE OF IT?
>
> Not forever, but for awhile.
>
> _____________________________________
> Ludvig Prinn
>
> "They can hide the truth, but they cannot take away our desire for truth until
> they take away our minds."
>
> --Johannes Lynch
>
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dm_tel...@my-dejanews.com
-z...@mailcity.SPAMAWAY.com wrote:
> On Wed, 09 Sep 1998 15:23:06 GMT, pup...@hotmail.com.spamn't
> (Cro-Magnon Herder) wrote:
>
> >I've already decided to stop. He can't answer my challenge and he's
> >incapable of rational dialogue, so I win, and when I win
YOU HAVEN'T WON *ANYTHING* . BUT ARGUING WITH THE PATHOLOGICALLY
DELUDED IS TIRING ... A HUGE WASTE. YOU SHOULD ALL BE FORCE MEDICATED.
I stop
> >playing.
>
> Hurrah!
>
> >Now, Zez, got any interesting magickal nibbles to set us arguing over?
> >We'll all have a lot of time on our hands now that we've stopped
> >baiting the bore, as it were.
>
> 1. Does your True Will ever 'communicate' or 'cooperate' with other
> True Wills?
>
> 2. By what ethical guidelines does your True Will operate?
>
> >Cro, who didn't make the list. *pout*
>
> Sorry about that, I was just going from immediate memory. I should
> have added you. I was remiss.
>
> -ZZ
>
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dm_tel...@my-dejanews.com
sole...@oath.com wrote:
> Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.
>
> > From: Joseph <ma...@slip.net>
> [...]
> > Tom Schuller e-mailed me and encouraged me to killfile the
> > turkey, and I think it has reached that point. The amusement
> > factor has just about run out. So I will henceforth refrain
> > from baiting the guy any further, and into the killfile he
> > goes.
>
> Interesting. I have wondered for years why the really experienced folks
> out here respond to these trolls, and this thread has raised my
> understanding a bit -- it's the humor of it, isnt it? By egging them on,
> they keep thrashing, and you find it, albeit perhaps somewhat perversely,
> funny.
>
> > If we ignore him, maybe he'll just post a few all-caps "I
> > HAVE WON HAHAHAHAHAHA!" messages and finally go away.
>
> Yeah, those driven by centers of Ego generally have a really strong need to
> get in the last word. In my experience, the best way to help kill the
> thread is to service that need by letting them have the last word. They
> think they win, and go away happy. They go away, so we win and are happy.
> It's sort of a fluffy bunny win/win situation.
WHAT A SPECIOUS EXCUSE FOR YOUR TOTAL INABILITY TO WIN AN ARGUMENT.
>
> I think I just retched!
>
> >
> > Boy, where's josh when we need him...?
> >
>
> What, to do the SUGA Ritual? Bah! Ignoring the screamers is the easiest
> and most effective way to deal with them, killfile or no. I will admit,
> however, that Josh's unmatched aptitude for the SUGA Ritual is a thing of
> beauty to observe. Others try, but never quite deliver it with such grace
> and attention to detail. But SUGA isn't the only -- or, in my opinion,
> best -- way to handle these gnats.
>
> Love is the law, love under will.
>
> Solemnus, P.M.S.L. 185, W.W.B.D.
> PER ME SPLENDET LUX
> sole...@oath.com
> http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Parthenon/8813/
> (There are no pop-up banners at this Geocities site)
>
Cro-Magnon Herder
On Thu, 10 Sep 1998 14:46:14 GMT, dm_tel...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
>In article <199809100639...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
> ludvi...@aol.com (LudvigPrin) wrote:
>> >Joseph, Ludvig, Richard, Erwin et al,
>> >
>> >I'm appealing to you (or so I'd like to think).
>>
>> ooobabyooooobabyooooobabyOOOOO!
>>
>> Anyway, kicking Chris Hughes' ass
>
>HAH!
>IF WISHES WERE FISHES...BUT DENYING REALITY IS SO DEEPLY NECESSARY
>TO MAGICAL THINKING, I CAN UNDERSTAND WHY YOU HAVE TO LIE.
>W/O LIES, A MAGICAL WORLDVIEW CRUMBLES.
>"IT IS AN IMMORAL ACT TO DENY MATERIAL REALITY".
Material reality contains, inherently, morality?
Morality is a product of a magical worldview. It takes its
justification entirely on the fact that there *can be right and wrong*
that right and wrong exist, are opposing, and are important enough to
act as guides to one's behavior, Popper's statement is truly
meaningless.
http://work.ucsd.edu:5141/cgi-bin/http_webster?morality&method=exact
Hypertext Webster Gateway: "morality"
From Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary (1913) (web1913)
Morality \Mo*ral"i*ty\, n.; pl. {Moralities}. [L. moralitas: cf. F.
moralit['e].] 1. The relation of conformity or nonconformity to the
moral standard or rule; quality of an intention, a character, an
action, a principle, or a sentiment, when tried by the standard of
right.
The morality of an action is founded in the freedom of that principle,
by virtue of which it is in the agent's power, having all things ready
and requisite to the performance of an action, either to perform or
not perform it. --South.
2. The quality of an action which renders it good; the conformity of
an act to the accepted standard of right.
Of moralitee he was the flower. --Chaucer.
I am bold to think that morality is capable of demonstration. --Locke.
3. The doctrines or rules of moral duties, or the duties of men in
their social character; ethics.
The end of morality is to procure the affections to obey reason, and
not to invade it. --Bacon.
The system of morality to be gathered out of . . . ancient sages falls
very short of that delivered in the gospel. --Swift.
4. The practice of the moral duties; rectitude of life; conformity to
the standard of right; virtue; as, we often admire the politeness of
men whose morality we question.
5. A kind of allegorical play, so termed because it consisted of
discourses in praise of morality between actors representing such
characters as Charity, Faith, Death, Vice, etc. Such plays were
occasionally exhibited as late as the reign of Henry VIII. --Strutt.
6. Intent; meaning; moral. [Obs.]
Taketh the morality thereof, good men. --Chaucer.
From WordNet (r) 1.6 (wn)
morality n 1: concern with the distinction between good and evil or
right and wrong; right or good conduct [ant: {immorality}] 2:
motivation based on ideas of right and wrong [syn: {ethical motive},
{ethics}, {morals}]
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Cro, eloquently.
Cro-Magnon Herder
> -z...@mailcity.SPAMAWAY.com wrote:
>> On Wed, 09 Sep 1998 15:23:06 GMT, pup...@hotmail.com.spamn't
>> (Cro-Magnon Herder) wrote:
>> >Now, Zez, got any interesting magickal nibbles to set us arguing over?
>> >We'll all have a lot of time on our hands now that we've stopped
>> >baiting the bore, as it were.
>>
>> 1. Does your True Will ever 'communicate' or 'cooperate' with other
>> True Wills?
Hehehe mine certainly does. It took just such an interaction for me to
identify what my True Will really is.
Often, when one is lost, it's easy to take guidance from someone else.
For a while, one's Will (not necessarily True) mirrors the guide's.
From that point on, the guide controls further development. A good
guide will eventually awake his or her student to their True Will; a
bad or at least selfish guide will maintain the unity of Will at the
cost of the student's own self.
If that makes any sense.
An example:
Mary is spiritually floundering. Something of an agnostic, she feels
somehow 'empty' and decides that this emptiness is due to her
spiritual choices. Unfortunately, Mary doesn't happen onto even
something like the Catholic Church: she happens onto a Scientology
"mission." She quickly becomes attached. Scientology happily defines
and fills her void, at an ultimate cost of at least several thousand
dollars, and at most, her life.
On the other hand, I was spiritually (and otherwise) floundering. An
agnostic, but more importantly a failure, I was essentially living
from moment to moment. The future was a vague and distant dream. Under
the tutoring of the man who would later become my fiance, I learned
what I really did want and I'm now actively (and delightedly) pursuing
it. For a while, however, I was anchored to his opinions and his
worldview.
It's a sort of childhood.
I'm babbling again, aren't I. Please ask if clarifications are needed.
I'll try again. Hehehe I'll get it right one of these days.
>> 2. By what ethical guidelines does your True Will operate?
Ethics presupposes morality which, in turn, presupposes good and evil.
Fortunately, I do ascribe a sort of good and evil to the world, so I
can tell you that my True Will operates, in moral terms, as an
extension of my sense of personal honor and compassion.
Where on earth did I pick up this almost Germanic grammar?
>> >Cro, who didn't make the list. *pout*
>>
>> Sorry about that, I was just going from immediate memory. I should
>> have added you. I was remiss.
I still love you. I was only pouting for the sake of pouting.
>> -ZZ
Croszsz.
Will Parke
> > AND THAT'S THE BEST YOU CAN DO? WELL, WITH YOUR TINY YETI BRAIN, I
> UNDERSTAND...HOW DID YOU EVER STOP HAVING ANAL SEX LONG ENOUGH TO POST
> ANYTHING?
What's your problem with anal sex, anyway? I know plenty of people who enjoy
it. Are you implying that there's a materialistic reason that it's wrong, or
just that you lack the chutzpah to consider anything beyond cutting a hole in
the sheet between you and Niwi?
Will Parke
> >1. Does your True Will ever 'communicate' or 'cooperate' with other
> >True Wills?
>
> Most always. That's how I know when I'm really on track, because things just
> "fall into place" and everything suddenly becomes very easy. Peoples' Wills fit
> together like gears. (Remember the Vision of the Machinery of the Universe?)
Ehh. Whaddya mean by "communicate?" One of the metaphors I really liked was the
astronomy one . . . that planets have their orbits, following their "True Will,"
and don't collide or interfere. If you mean communication like gravity, as a
passive understanding of other forces at work, I could agree. But active banter .
. ?
> >2. By what ethical guidelines does your True Will operate?
>
> None.
That's what we have an ego for . . . to keep that prententious ghost out of
trouble. <g>
"Watching windows,
Wonder if he knows
What it could be
If it's meant to be."
-track from Pi sndtrck
Will Parke
> >> 2. By what ethical guidelines does your True Will operate?
>
> Ethics presupposes morality which, in turn, presupposes good and evil.
Howso?
> Fortunately, I do ascribe a sort of good and evil to the world, so I
> can tell you that my True Will operates, in moral terms, as an
> extension of my sense of personal honor and compassion.
Personally, (though I might be mutilating the word here) "ethics" allways
seemed to be more like etiquette or decorum than morality. I consider myself
amoral (at least at an ego level), but my ethical system is charitable,
patient, and merciful. (Not that I'd claim to perfectly exist within it)
Killing, and violence in general, seems unaesthetic. Greed and
short-temperedness beget similar behaviours . . . yadda yadda. My general
behaviour tries to foster organic/living systems and relations in my
environment for aesthetic and intellectual reasons. I don't think it could be
considered a moral issue, tho. Maybe . . . if Zen is "attention!" ethics are
the guidelines to keep you out of trouble until you reach everyday Zen.
Erwin Hessle
dm_tel...@my-dejanews.com wrote in message
<6t8ndb$t22$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...
>> It's already been proved countless times on this forum, beyond any
>> reasonable doubt, and your screaming just confirms this. You're trapped
like
>> a rat in a hole, squealing to get out. You're a fraud, that's been
exposed
>> now.
>
>STATE THE EVIDENCE.
I already have, many times. Check Dejanews. Hiding won't change the facts.
>No amount of crying is going to change that. People whose articles
>> you've stolen have confirmed it here,
>
>WHEN AND WHERE?
Again, check the previous posts. You know exactly what I am referring to,
and your childish attempts to feign ignorance are, quite frankly, comical.
You know you're a fraud. Why deny it anymore?
Erwin Hessle, 8=3
Charla J. Williams
: What's your problem with anal sex, anyway? I know plenty of
: people who enjoy it. Are you implying that there's a
: materialistic reason that it's wrong, or just that you lack
: the chutzpah to consider anything beyond cutting a hole in
: the sheet between you and Niwi?
Personally I once posted a silly msg to a BBS echo which
went something like "Any man worth his salt as a lover
ought to enjoy anal sex once in a while and that doesn't
necessarily make him gay." -- which should give you an idea
what I think on the subject ;-)
Chris and his wife Vanessa are practicing celibacy.
Perhaps he can explain to you why. Something about putting
that energy to a "higher" use.
Regards, Charla
Cro-Magnon Herder
<wi...@westerdale.mv.com> wrote:
>Cro-Magnon Herder wrote:
>
>> >> 2. By what ethical guidelines does your True Will operate?
>>
>> Ethics presupposes morality which, in turn, presupposes good and evil.
>
>Howso?
Kick back a bit and look at my post in response to "It's an immoral
act to deny material reality." Morality is defined in light of good
and evil, and ethics is the application of morality to action. It's
all in Webster's online, if you'd like to look it up.
>> Fortunately, I do ascribe a sort of good and evil to the world, so I
>> can tell you that my True Will operates, in moral terms, as an
>> extension of my sense of personal honor and compassion.
>
>Personally, (though I might be mutilating the word here) "ethics" allways
>seemed to be more like etiquette or decorum than morality. I consider myself
>amoral (at least at an ego level), but my ethical system is charitable,
>patient, and merciful. (Not that I'd claim to perfectly exist within it)
>Killing, and violence in general, seems unaesthetic. Greed and
>short-temperedness beget similar behaviours . . . yadda yadda. My general
>behaviour tries to foster organic/living systems and relations in my
>environment for aesthetic and intellectual reasons. I don't think it could be
>considered a moral issue, tho. Maybe . . . if Zen is "attention!" ethics are
>the guidelines to keep you out of trouble until you reach everyday Zen.
>
Then you have a "right" and a "wrong".
There's nothing "wrong" about it, either. Right/wrong, good/evil -
they're all just ways we monkeys use to organize information into
comprehendable quanta. However, they are obliged to be "magical" as
Elvis would argue because, for example, having an ethical system that
is charitable, patient, and merciful means that there must be an
opposing system (the class logic to back this is available, I just
don't want to type it unless I have to. If you'd like to see it, just
ask.) Ergo, your system is "right" and the opponent system is "wrong."
With me so far? This is "magical" because it's not based on any sort
of objective or rational guideline (no matter how people argue to the
contrary {proof on this also available at your request [Elvis has made
me very nervous of unsupported propositions. Can you tell?]}) but
instead is an extension of Will. In this case, literally.
Morality is magical, but not necessarily magickal, and not necessarily
Judeo-Christian. Morality as we know it is multifarious, ranging from
"That's bad because if I do it, I get hit." to "That's bad because it
is a detriment to the human race."
The best source I can think of if you'd like a clearer explanation is
any college psychology textbook. Look for things like "Moral
Development" the "Moral Emotions (guilt, empathy, shame)", and so
forth. Morality is not an absolute, it is a frame of reference, and it
is and should be different for all of us.
Cro, loudly and overlong.
dm_tel...@my-dejanews.com
Will Parke <wi...@westerdale.mv.com> wrote:
> dm_tel...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
>
> > > AND THAT'S THE BEST YOU CAN DO? WELL, WITH YOUR TINY YETI BRAIN, I
> > UNDERSTAND...HOW DID YOU EVER STOP HAVING ANAL SEX LONG ENOUGH TO POST
> > ANYTHING?
>
> it. Are you implying that there's a materialistic reason that it's wrong, or
> just that you lack the chutzpah to consider anything beyond cutting a hole in
> the sheet between you and Niwi?
>
dm_tel...@my-dejanews.com
"Erwin Hessle" <er...@mcmail.NOSPAM.com> wrote:
>
> dm_tel...@my-dejanews.com wrote in message
> <6t7e3l$96f$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...
> >In article <905371850.21940.0...@news.demon.co.uk>,
> > "Erwin Hessle" <er...@mcmail.NOSPAM.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> dm_tel...@my-dejanews.com wrote in message
> >> <6t6kvs$2mf$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...
> >>
> >> > WHERE *ARE* *YOUR* PAPERS, JUNIOR?
> >>
> >> Where are *your* papers? I mean the ones you wrote, not the ones you
> stole.
> >
> >
> >PROVE IT OR SHUT UP. YOU HAVE NOT A MICROGRAM OF EVIDENCE TO BACK UP
> >THIS ABSURD CLAIM.
>
> reasonable doubt, and your screaming just confirms this. You're trapped like
> a rat in a hole, squealing to get out. You're a fraud, that's been exposed
> you've stolen have confirmed it here,
EARTH TO NITWIT, COME IN NITWIT... YOU AREN'T BOTHERING ME IN THE LEAST.
CONTINUE TO LIE, IF YOU ENJOY SEEING YOUR OWN LIES THAT MUCH.
its quite a pathetic hobby.
I don't know why you even bother to
> argue, sunshine.
>
> Erwin Hessle, 8=3
>
>
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dm_tel...@my-dejanews.com
> : people who enjoy it. Are you implying that there's a
> : materialistic reason that it's wrong, or just that you lack
> : the chutzpah to consider anything beyond cutting a hole in
> : the sheet between you and Niwi?
>
> went something like "Any man worth his salt as a lover
> ought to enjoy anal sex once in a while and that doesn't
> necessarily make him gay." -- which should give you an idea
> what I think on the subject ;-)
>
> Chris and his wife Vanessa are practicing celibacy.
> Perhaps he can explain to you why. Something about putting
> that energy to a "higher" use.
IF YOU ARE quote someone, QUOTE THEM ACCURATELY AND IN CONTEXT,
YOU DEGENERATE OLD COCAINE WHORE.
old being the keyword here...check your expiration date, bitch,
'cause you actin' outta place.
>
> Regards, Charla
dm_tel...@my-dejanews.com
pup...@hotmail.com.spamn't (Cro-Magnon Herder) wrote:
>
> On Thu, 10 Sep 1998 14:46:14 GMT, dm_tel...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
>
> >In article <199809100639...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
> > ludvi...@aol.com (LudvigPrin) wrote:
> >> >Joseph, Ludvig, Richard, Erwin et al,
> >> >
> >> >I'm appealing to you (or so I'd like to think).
> >>
> >> ooobabyooooobabyooooobabyOOOOO!
> >>
> >> Anyway, kicking Chris Hughes' ass
> >
> >HAH!
> >IF WISHES WERE FISHES...BUT DENYING REALITY IS SO DEEPLY NECESSARY
> >TO MAGICAL THINKING, I CAN UNDERSTAND WHY YOU HAVE TO LIE.
> >W/O LIES, A MAGICAL WORLDVIEW CRUMBLES.
> >"IT IS AN IMMORAL ACT TO DENY MATERIAL REALITY".
>
> Material reality contains, inherently, morality?
>
> Morality is a product of a magical worldview. It takes its
> justification entirely on the fact that there *can be right and wrong*
> that right and wrong exist, are opposing, and are important enough to
> act as guides to one's behavior, Popper's statement is truly
> meaningless.
SO NOW THE 19 YEAR OLD TWIT THINKS HE WISER THAN KARL POPPER, WHO IS WIDELY
REGARDED (ALONGSIDE PERHAPS WITTGENSTEIN AND GOEDEL) AS THE SINGLE MOST
IMPORTANT PHILOSOPHER OF THE 20TH CENTURY... and he calls me egotistical!
yowza!
> --
> this .sig is in memoriam to Akira Kurosawa, born 1910
> died 6 September 1998 12:42 JST. Kurosawa was and
> remains one of the greatest directors of all time.
> He is the only one of all, at the least, to move me.
> Please visit the Akira Kurosawa Database:
> http://www2.tky.3web.ne.jp/~adk/kurosawa/AKpage.html
>
> pup...@hotmail.com
>
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Erwin Hessle
dm_tel...@my-dejanews.com wrote in message
<6t9gd7$451$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...
>> It's already been proved countless times on this forum, beyond any
>> reasonable doubt, and your screaming just confirms this. You're trapped
like
>> a rat in a hole, squealing to get out. You're a fraud, that's been
exposed
>> now. No amount of crying is going to change that. People whose articles
>> you've stolen have confirmed it here,
>
>EARTH TO NITWIT, COME IN NITWIT... YOU AREN'T BOTHERING ME IN THE LEAST.
>CONTINUE TO LIE, IF YOU ENJOY SEEING YOUR OWN LIES THAT MUCH.
Deny it all you like, but I know it's true, you know it's true, and so does
everyone else. You're just making a fool of yourself here. But then again, I
guess you're used to that by now.
Erwin Hessle, 8=3
Cro-Magnon Herder
How foolish of me. I keep forgetting that the aged have a monopoly on
truth. Forgive me, Chris. Will you be my friend now?
Cro, eating humble pie.
Patrick Schaaf
>>Now, Zez, got any interesting magickal nibbles to set us arguing over?
>>We'll all have a lot of time on our hands now that we've stopped
>>baiting the bore, as it were.
>1. Does your True Will ever 'communicate' or 'cooperate' with other
>True Wills?
>2. By what ethical guidelines does your True Will operate?
1. yes. occasionally. or so it seems.
2. I have no idea.
3. who is this True Will?
have a nice harvest
Patrick
dm_tel...@my-dejanews.com
dm_tel...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
> In article <charlajwE...@netcom.com>,
> char...@netcom.com (Charla J. Williams) wrote:
> > Will Parke (wi...@westerdale.mv.com) wrote in reply to dm_telvis:
> >
> > : What's your problem with anal sex, anyway? I know plenty of
> > : people who enjoy it. Are you implying that there's a
> > : materialistic reason that it's wrong, or just that you lack
> > : the chutzpah to consider anything beyond cutting a hole in
> > : the sheet between you and Niwi?
> >
> > Personally I once posted a silly msg to a BBS echo which
> > went something like "Any man worth his salt as a lover
> > ought to enjoy anal sex once in a while and that doesn't
> > necessarily make him gay." -- which should give you an idea
> > what I think on the subject ;-)
> >
> > Chris and his wife Vanessa are practicing celibacy.
> > Perhaps he can explain to you why. Something about putting
> > that energy to a "higher" use.
>
> YOU DEGENERATE OLD COCAINE WHORE.
> old being the keyword here...check your expiration date, bitch,
> 'cause you actin' outta place.
> >
> > Regards, Charla
>
> >
CULTISTS CAN A M0DERN YETI FIND ROMANCE...
Will Parke
> In article <35F81193...@westerdale.mv.com>,
> Will Parke <wi...@westerdale.mv.com> wrote:
> > dm_tel...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
> >
> > > > AND THAT'S THE BEST YOU CAN DO? WELL, WITH YOUR TINY YETI BRAIN, I
> > > UNDERSTAND...HOW DID YOU EVER STOP HAVING ANAL SEX LONG ENOUGH TO POST
> > > ANYTHING?
> >
> > What's your problem with anal sex, anyway? I know plenty of people who enjoy
> > it. Are you implying that there's a materialistic reason that it's wrong, or
> > just that you lack the chutzpah to consider anything beyond cutting a hole in
> > the sheet between you and Niwi?
> >
> WE ARE NOT HASSIDIC JEWS.
(Yeah! Telvy-poo's talking to me again . . .)
I'm not sure if the Chasids do that, but I do know the puritans did, and the amish
do now. And since your none of those I'm even more perplexed at your sexual
phobias. We live in a relatively permissive society that at least tolerates
comfortable attitudes toward sex. Not some "third-world hell-hole like Albania . .
."
heheh
Will Parke
> In article <charlajwE...@netcom.com>,
> > Chris and his wife Vanessa are practicing celibacy.
> > Perhaps he can explain to you why. Something about putting
> > that energy to a "higher" use.
>
> IF YOU ARE quote someone, QUOTE THEM ACCURATELY AND IN CONTEXT,
> YOU DEGENERATE OLD COCAINE WHORE.
> old being the keyword here...check your expiration date, bitch,
> 'cause you actin' outta place.
Then do you want to correct the mistake? Cause until there's something
else on the table, Charla's a lot more credible than you.
Will Parke
Karl Marx (a materialist as well) was well regarded by quite a few people. Doesn't
mean he wasn't full of shit. Engels too. Their inspiration, Hegel, a keystone of
modern continental philosophy. People make jokes about him.
Everybody thought Reagan was swell.
Just cause they're pretty don't mean they're a good lay.
To me Cro's a more sound thinker than anyone I've heard try to explain a materialist
morality. (Are you ever going to give that a shot? Or just bitch about how mean we
all are?) And definitely a better thinker than any dipshit who can't take repeated
hints that someone with an androgynous nick may not be a man . . .
Will Parke
> 3. who is this True Will?
Me, silly. Haven't you been listening?
LudvigPrin
>
>HAH!
>IF WISHES WERE FISHES...BUT DENYING REALITY IS SO DEEPLY NECESSARY
>TO MAGICAL THINKING, I CAN UNDERSTAND WHY YOU HAVE TO LIE.
>W/O LIES, A MAGICAL WORLDVIEW CRUMBLES.
>"IT IS AN IMMORAL ACT TO DENY MATERIAL REALITY".
>
>> the ball is going to come right back so you can smack it again.
See, folks?
Boing boing boing boing boing!
Now he'll cut and paste this and post something else stupid in all caps.
LudvigPrin
>REGARDED (ALONGSIDE PERHAPS WITTGENSTEIN AND GOEDEL) AS THE SINGLE MOST
>IMPORTANT PHILOSOPHER OF THE 20TH CENTURY... and he calls me egotistical!
I suppose that Popper's statement depends entirely upon what you define
"material reality" as.
Ever occur to you also that some people treasure their immorality?
LudvigPrin
Poor Chrissy, is your squeeze ignoring you again?
>YOU AREN'T BOTHERING ME IN THE LEAST
As a matter of fact, I can guarantee that we bug the living hell out of you,
and will continue to do so until alt.magick produces an intelligent
conversation to distract us.
That could be a period of months, but you'll flee long before then.
LudvigPrin
>
>Me, silly. Haven't you been listening?
It must suck to be you. Everybody shoots at you in the movies ("Fire at
Will!"), but at least you always get to be on top ("Love is the Law, Love under
Will").
I guess it's a trade-off.
-ZZ
<wi...@westerdale.mv.com> wrote:
>Ehh. Whaddya mean by "communicate?" One of the metaphors I really liked was the
>astronomy one . . . that planets have their orbits, following their "True Will,"
>and don't collide or interfere. If you mean communication like gravity, as a
>passive understanding of other forces at work, I could agree. But active banter .
>. ?
That's why I put it in single quotes. I meant communicate in the
sense that some data was exchanged, (in the same way that you could
say gravity implies some data exchange), rather than "Hey, Will's True
Will, how ya doing? Oh, not bad, been going out a lot... Mmm? Oh,
teettering on the Abyss, but not really plunged in as yet..."
-ZZ
dm_tel...@my-dejanews.com
SHE IS ONLY CREDIBLE AMONG CRACKPOTS, CULTISTS, LUNATICS, SCHIZOS
SATANISTS LIKE YOURSELVES.
dm_tel...@my-dejanews.com
> > pup...@hotmail.com.spamn't (Cro-Magnon Herder) wrote:
> > > I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I have to. It's too obviously.
> > >
> > > On Thu, 10 Sep 1998 14:46:14 GMT, dm_tel...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
> > >
> > > >In article <199809100639...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
> > > > ludvi...@aol.com (LudvigPrin) wrote:
> > > >> >Joseph, Ludvig, Richard, Erwin et al,
> > > >> >
> > > >> >I'm appealing to you (or so I'd like to think).
> > > >>
> > > >> ooobabyooooobabyooooobabyOOOOO!
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >HAH!
> > > >IF WISHES WERE FISHES...BUT DENYING REALITY IS SO DEEPLY NECESSARY
> > > >TO MAGICAL THINKING, I CAN UNDERSTAND WHY YOU HAVE TO LIE.
> > > >W/O LIES, A MAGICAL WORLDVIEW CRUMBLES.
> > > >"IT IS AN IMMORAL ACT TO DENY MATERIAL REALITY".
> > >
> > >
> > > Morality is a product of a magical worldview. It takes its
> > > justification entirely on the fact that there *can be right and wrong*
> > > that right and wrong exist, are opposing, and are important enough to
> > > act as guides to one's behavior, Popper's statement is truly
> > > meaningless.
> >
> > REGARDED (ALONGSIDE PERHAPS WITTGENSTEIN AND GOEDEL) AS THE SINGLE MOST
> > IMPORTANT PHILOSOPHER OF THE 20TH CENTURY... and he calls me egotistical!
>
> Karl Marx (a materialist as well) was well regarded by quite a few people.
Doesn't
> mean he wasn't full of shit. Engels too. Their inspiration, Hegel, a
keystone of
> modern continental philosophy.
IT IS FALLACIOUS REASONING TO MAKE STAW MAN ARGUMENTS.
People make jokes about him.
STUPID PEOPLE.
>
> Everybody thought Reagan was swell.
YOU ARE ENJOYING AN ECONOMIC BOOM RIGHT NOW THAT IS THE DIRECT
RESULT OF REAGAN ERA POLICIES.
>
> Just cause they're pretty don't mean they're a good lay.
>
> To me Cro's a more sound thinker than anyone I've heard try to explain a
materialist
> morality. (Are you ever going to give that a shot? Or just bitch about how
mean we
> all are?) And definitely a better thinker than any dipshit who can't take
repeated
> hints that someone with an androgynous nick may not be a man . . .
A LIAR.
dm_tel...@my-dejanews.com
ludvi...@aol.com (LudvigPrin) wrote:
> >SO NOW THE 19 YEAR OLD TWIT THINKS HE WISER THAN KARL POPPER, WHO IS WIDELY
> >REGARDED (ALONGSIDE PERHAPS WITTGENSTEIN AND GOEDEL) AS THE SINGLE MOST
> >IMPORTANT PHILOSOPHER OF THE 20TH CENTURY... and he calls me egotistical!
>
> "material reality" as.
>
> Ever occur to you also that some people treasure their immorality?
CRIMINALS.
>
> _____________________________________
> Ludvig Prinn
>
> "They can hide the truth, but they cannot take away our desire for truth until
> they take away our minds."
>
> --Johannes Lynch
>
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dm_tel...@my-dejanews.com
ludvi...@aol.com (LudvigPrin) wrote:
> >EARTH TO NITWIT, COME IN NITWIT...
>
> Poor Chrissy, is your squeeze ignoring you again?
>
> >YOU AREN'T BOTHERING ME IN THE LEAST
>
> As a matter of fact, I can guarantee that we bug the living hell out of you,
> and will continue to do so until alt.magick produces an intelligent
> conversation to distract us.
>
> That could be a period of months, but you'll flee long before then.
YOUR AOL ACCOUNT WILL BE TAKEN AWAY BY YOUR PARENTS LONG BEFORE THAT.
Will Parke
> >> 3. who is this True Will?
> >
> >Me, silly. Haven't you been listening?
>
> It must suck to be you. Everybody shoots at you in the movies ("Fire at
Yeah, but I always make it to the next movie. Better than Kirk Douglas, anyways.
> Will!"), but at least you always get to be on top ("Love is the Law, Love under
> Will").
That's a good thing?
> "They can hide the truth, but they cannot take away our desire for truth until
> they take away our minds."
>
> --Johannes Lynch
Now there's a guy with an unfortunate name : Toilet Hanging . . .
-Not
Talking to His Parents
Will Parke
> That's why I put it in single quotes. I meant communicate in the
> sense that some data was exchanged, (in the same way that you could
> say gravity implies some data exchange), rather than "Hey, Will's True
> Will, how ya doing? Oh, not bad, been going out a lot... Mmm? Oh,
> teettering on the Abyss, but not really plunged in as yet..."
Then I suppose I could agree to that, though (on my end at least) it's all conjecture.
Anybody done the Abramelin working? Some other "Talk to Your HGA in Three Easy
Postures" type ritual? Care to discuss the results in public . . ?
I suppose the whole issues like before and after doing acid for the first time.
(Though I did know what it was going to be like . . . go figure)
-Not Talking to
God
Joseph
> Will Parke (wi...@westerdale.mv.com) wrote in reply to dm_telvis:
>
> : What's your problem with anal sex, anyway? I know plenty of
> : people who enjoy it. Are you implying that there's a
> : materialistic reason that it's wrong, or just that you lack
> : the chutzpah to consider anything beyond cutting a hole in
> : the sheet between you and Niwi?
>
> Personally I once posted a silly msg to a BBS echo which
> went something like "Any man worth his salt as a lover
> ought to enjoy anal sex once in a while and that doesn't
> necessarily make him gay." -- which should give you an idea
> what I think on the subject ;-)
To quote a gay friend of mine, to a silly striaght boy getting squemish
about anal sex: "What? You've never taken a dick up your ass and you call
yourself a MAN?!"
> Chris and his wife Vanessa are practicing celibacy.
That may be a very serious sore spot with the boy. It may well be that the
"celebacy" bit is simply rationalization for the fact that girlfriend
doesn't put out. She seems to be a major "brain" type, and might have
serious sexual hang-ups that preclude poor Chris from getting any pussy at
all. But since she feeds his ego (and perhaps feeds him literally -- as in
being his main source of income) he doesn't want to give up his one and
only fan that sees him as the great genius he's convinced that he is. Can
you imagine him actually having any kind of loving, sensuous relationship
with anyone?
> Perhaps he can explain to you why. Something about putting
> that energy to a "higher" use.
How the hell does that jibe with his recent conversion to scientism? I
mean, the "we are following the curriculum of the A:.A:., letter for
letter, word for word" bit he used to blather about made some kind of
weird sense to include enforced chastity for magical reasons, but "energy"
and "higher"? Isn't that just more "irrational fantasy"?
Without any religious or magical justification for it, this chastity bit
is exposed for what is was all along: da bitch won' give up da pussy!
- J:.M:.555
Will Parke
like this :
> In article <35F8AD43...@westerdale.mv.com>,
> Will Parke <wi...@westerdale.mv.com> wrote:
> > Karl Marx (a materialist as well) was well regarded by quite a few people.
> Doesn't
> > mean he wasn't full of shit. Engels too. Their inspiration, Hegel, a
> keystone of
> > modern continental philosophy.
>
> IT IS FALLACIOUS REASONING TO MAKE STAW MAN ARGUMENTS.
It is fallacious reasoning to say somebody's hot shit just because they're
popular. That was my point.You want to spread the "Word of Popper" than give us
more than one nonsensical quote from him. Explain what good he did, or what
advances his philosophy produced. No man's word is Gospel.
> >People make jokes about him.
>
> STUPID PEOPLE.
You're a Hegelian as well? Are there any big name philosophers you _don't_ latch
on to?
> >
> > Everybody thought Reagan was swell.
>
> YOU ARE ENJOYING AN ECONOMIC BOOM RIGHT NOW THAT IS THE DIRECT
> RESULT OF REAGAN ERA POLICIES.
Won't get into whether that's true or not. Don't care, either. He's still a putz.
> > To me Cro's a more sound thinker than anyone I've heard try to explain a
> materialist
> > morality. (Are you ever going to give that a shot? Or just bitch about how
> mean we
> > all are?)
Well?
> A LIAR.
Huh? Was that your signature, or were you making a point?
Will Parke
> In article <199809110636...@ladder03.news.aol.com>,
> ludvi...@aol.com (LudvigPrin) wrote:
> > >SO NOW THE 19 YEAR OLD TWIT THINKS HE WISER THAN KARL POPPER, WHO IS WIDELY
> > >REGARDED (ALONGSIDE PERHAPS WITTGENSTEIN AND GOEDEL) AS THE SINGLE MOST
> > >IMPORTANT PHILOSOPHER OF THE 20TH CENTURY... and he calls me egotistical!
> >
> > I suppose that Popper's statement depends entirely upon what you define
> > "material reality" as.
> >
> > Ever occur to you also that some people treasure their immorality?
>
> CRIMINALS.
Wait wait wait . . . is morality material, or political?
Can you go two whole posts without making yourself look like a dipshit?
Patrick Schaaf
>Patrick Schaaf wrote:
>> 3. who is this True Will?
>Me, silly. Haven't you been listening?
Yes. I've been off the bboard for some time. Doesn't matter anyway.
Who is this True Will for you, besides the puns?
best regards
Patrick
LudvigPrin
>> "material reality" as.
>>
>> Ever occur to you also that some people treasure their immorality?
>
>CRIMINALS.
Criminals in what sense? That they've broken a law of their land? Or in a
religious sense, which would make them "sinners"?
So it all boils down to who decides A) what is "moral" and B) who decides what
"material reality" is.
Care to answer to that? What are the morals that everyone should have? Be
explicit. Also, what is "material reality"? Be explicit.
_____________________________________
Ludvig Prinn
LudvigPrin
Not bloody likely. It's my account. Unlike you, I only need one account to kick
your ass. Seems like you need....what did you say.....TEN? Ten accounts to back
yourself up on various topics.
LudvigPrin
>"celebacy" bit is simply rationalization for the fact that girlfriend
>doesn't put out.
That's been pretty much the consensus from the outset.
>She seems to be a major "brain" type, and might have
>serious sexual hang-ups that preclude poor Chris from getting any pussy
>at
>all.
But I'm sure he's a big tickle for her, being the Big Bad Tough Guy Who Takes
No Shit, with his cool leather jacket and black t shirt look, dark cynical eyes
gloating over the world for the joke that nobody gets but him.
You know, they have a term for people who live in worlds like that.
Shitzo-something or other. Something starting with "shit". Oh, of course,
"schizophrenia".
>But since she feeds his ego (and perhaps feeds him literally -- as in
>being his main source of income) he doesn't want to give up his one and
>only fan that sees him as the great genius he's convinced that he is.
Well, for all his boasting, he really hasn't mentioned anything he's DONE,
except "I invented a new designer drug, so I'm a productive member of society!"
But I mean, what do you expect from a guy whose web page is named after an old
chaos magic term for "Drug Induced Stupor"?
>> Perhaps he can explain to you why. Something about putting
>> that energy to a "higher" use.
>
>How the hell does that jibe with his recent conversion to scientism?
It doesn't anymore. Now, he'll have to use the old standby, "I need to conserve
my mental power for my work!" He'll have to start doing the Einstein thing,
having seven sets of black t shirts and leather jackets, one for each day so he
doesn't have to waste brainpower thinking about what studly outfit he's going
to wear that day.
>Without any religious or magical justification for it, this chastity bit
>is exposed for what is was all along: da bitch won' give up da pussy!
ThePsyko
monkey $4 to spew out the following:
>
>But I'm sure he's a big tickle for her, being the Big Bad Tough Guy Who Takes
>No Shit, with his cool leather jacket and black t shirt look, dark cynical eyes
>gloating over the world for the joke that nobody gets but him.
>
>You know, they have a term for people who live in worlds like that.
>Shitzo-something or other. Something starting with "shit". Oh, of course,
>"schizophrenia".
>
Ummm... I wear a leather jacket and almost always a black or white
t-shirt.... but I have NEVER been diagnosed as schizophrenic... your
logic escapes me....
>>But since she feeds his ego (and perhaps feeds him literally -- as in
>>being his main source of income) he doesn't want to give up his one and
>>only fan that sees him as the great genius he's convinced that he is.
>
>Well, for all his boasting, he really hasn't mentioned anything he's DONE,
>except "I invented a new designer drug, so I'm a productive member of society!"
>
>But I mean, what do you expect from a guy whose web page is named after an old
>chaos magic term for "Drug Induced Stupor"?
>
>>> Perhaps he can explain to you why. Something about putting
>>> that energy to a "higher" use.
>>
>>How the hell does that jibe with his recent conversion to scientism?
>
>It doesn't anymore. Now, he'll have to use the old standby, "I need to conserve
>my mental power for my work!" He'll have to start doing the Einstein thing,
>having seven sets of black t shirts and leather jackets, one for each day so he
>doesn't have to waste brainpower thinking about what studly outfit he's going
>to wear that day.
>
>>Without any religious or magical justification for it, this chastity bit
>>is exposed for what is was all along: da bitch won' give up da pussy!
>
>
>_____________________________________
>Ludvig Prinn
>
>"They can hide the truth, but they cannot take away our desire for truth until
>they take away our minds."
>
> --Johannes Lynch
ThePsyko
Public Enemy #7
"God told me to skin you alive"
LudvigPrin
It is also fallacious to make pretensions to literate giantism when one is
unable to spell "straw", assuming you were referring to the proverbial "straw
man" which comprises nine-tenths of your posts.
> People make jokes about him.
>
>
>STUPID PEOPLE.
So people who laugh at your hero are stupid? What about blind hero worship? You
know, you laugh at lots of things when you should be laughing at yourself
first.
>YOU ARE ENJOYING AN ECONOMIC BOOM RIGHT NOW THAT IS THE DIRECT
>RESULT OF REAGAN ERA POLICIES.
That's totally unfounded. You could as easily claim that the current "economic
boom" (what?) was caused by El Nino.
Will Parke
The one I see when I feel like a kaleidoscope opening inside.
And if you don't get that . . . I probably can't help you.
Will Parke
> On 12 Sep 1998 05:36:07 GMT, ludvi...@aol.com (LudvigPrin) slipped a
> monkey $4 to spew out the following:
>
> >
> >But I'm sure he's a big tickle for her, being the Big Bad Tough Guy Who Takes
> >No Shit, with his cool leather jacket and black t shirt look, dark cynical eyes
> >gloating over the world for the joke that nobody gets but him.
> >
> >You know, they have a term for people who live in worlds like that.
> >Shitzo-something or other. Something starting with "shit". Oh, of course,
> >"schizophrenia".
> >
> Ummm... I wear a leather jacket and almost always a black or white
> t-shirt.... but I have NEVER been diagnosed as schizophrenic... your
> logic escapes me....
The logic extended beyond the coat and shirt. It had to do with the skewed
self-image and ego-masturbatory behaviour.
C'mon, you think somewhere like alt.magick isn't going to be loaded with
black-swaddled creatures of the night? <g>
David R. Jones
Care Ludvig
On 11 Sep 1998 06:41:27 GMT, ludvi...@aol.com (LudvigPrin) wrote:
>>YOU AREN'T BOTHERING ME IN THE LEAST
>
>As a matter of fact, I can guarantee that we bug the living hell out of you,
>and will continue to do so until alt.magick produces an intelligent
>conversation to distract us.
Is this really likely?
>That could be a period of months, but you'll flee long before then.
Possibly not until the next millenium.
Love is the law, love under will.
Prospero
>_____________________________________
ThePsyko
<wi...@westerdale.mv.com> slipped a monkey $4 to spew out the
following:
Heh, good point...
richard sprigg
Interesting.
My personal analogy is of a flower opening inwards.
Will Parke
I could see that. I just get a more electric feel when it happens,
angular motions and the impression of flashing. Like fireworks, too.
I suppose we could just talk the Gnostic metaphors to death now.
LudvigPrin
>t-shirt.... but I have NEVER been diagnosed as schizophrenic... your
>logic escapes me....
Check out his picture. It's hardly the image of an educated scholar, more like
the image of a self-absorbed couchboy who got older, but never grew up.
http://members.tripod.com/~Chemo_Gnostic/chemognostic.htm
It's pretty cute. The paunchy, unshaven face defiantly glaring at the world who
rejected him. It's hard to tell if the look is supposed to be coy, charming,
daring, mysterious, or if he just noticed that his fly is down and is wondering
if we saw it too.
>>But I mean, what do you expect from a guy whose web page is named after
>an old
>>chaos magic term for "Drug Induced Stupor"?
_____________________________________
LudvigPrin
>
>It is also fallacious to make pretensions to literate giantism when one
>is
>unable to spell "straw", assuming you were referring to the proverbial "straw
>man" which comprises nine-tenths of your posts.
>
>> People make jokes about him.
>>
>>
>>STUPID PEOPLE.
>
>So people who laugh at your hero are stupid? What about blind hero worship?
>You
>know, you laugh at lots of things when you should be laughing at yourself
>first.
>
>>YOU ARE ENJOYING AN ECONOMIC BOOM RIGHT NOW THAT IS THE DIRECT
>>RESULT OF REAGAN ERA POLICIES.
>
>That's totally unfounded. You could as easily claim that the current "economic
>boom" (what?) was caused by El Nino.
richard sprigg
Let's not: a much better idea.
It would seem that the essential image is similar, which is amazing,
given the differences that must exist in age, origin and education.
A quiet satisfaction with this is fine by me.
We might happen upon the postings in a year or so, and I know that I
have no desire to cringe and hide.
richard
Will Parke
> In article <35FA2BAA...@westerdale.mv.com>,
> Will Parke <wi...@westerdale.mv.com> wrote:
> > ThePsyko wrote:
> >
> > > On 12 Sep 1998 05:36:07 GMT, ludvi...@aol.com (LudvigPrin) slipped a
> > > monkey $4 to spew out the following:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >But I'm sure he's a big tickle for her, being the Big Bad Tough Guy Who
> Takes
> > > >No Shit, with his cool leather jacket and black t shirt look, dark cynical
> eyes
> > > >gloating over the world for the joke that nobody gets but him.
> > > >
> > > >You know, they have a term for people who live in worlds like that.
> > > >Shitzo-something or other. Something starting with "shit". Oh, of course,
> > > >"schizophrenia".
> > > >
> > > Ummm... I wear a leather jacket and almost always a black or white
> > > t-shirt.... but I have NEVER been diagnosed as schizophrenic... your
> > > logic escapes me....
> >
> > The logic extended beyond the coat and shirt. It had to do with the skewed
> > self-image and ego-masturbatory behaviour.
>
> AND THIS FREE PSYCHOBABBLE IS FROM A PUBLIC AFFICIONADO OF RAPE PORN...
> WHY DON'T THE girls LIKE YOU , LUDWIG? WHY DOES IT MAKE YOU SO ANGRY YOU
> WANT TO TAKE IT BY FORCE? BUT YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE THE BALLS TO HANDLE THE
> CRIMINAL ... YOU JUST WANK AT NAUGHTY FAKE RAPE PICTURES.
> YOUR ACTIONS AS FLACCID AND INEFFECTUAL AS YOUR SILLY "PHILOSOPHY".
Uhhh . . . dipshit -- the post you re:ed to was mine. Not Ludvig's. Why do you
stress words with LOWERCASE letters? Are you frothing at the mouth? Read the
WHOLE header before you reply.
Will Parke
> In article <Pine.GSO.3.96.980911095344.25464F-100000@slip-3>,
> Joseph <ma...@slip.net> wrote:
>
> >She seems to be a major "brain" type
>
> I'll take that as the compliment it doubtlessly was not intended to be.
>
> >da bitch won' give up da pussy!
>
> If anyone else said that, you would be all over their asses in a cold minute.
> I have seen you do it before over perceived "racism" and "homophobia."
> ...ever heard of sexism Joe?
As much as we might care . . . you were leaving.
If all you're going to do is bitch about people here without ever contributing to
a thread, you might wonder why you're reading what people here are saying in the
first place.
Joseph
> Joseph <ma...@slip.net> wrote:
>
> >da bitch won' give up da pussy!
>
> If anyone else said that, you would be all over their asses in a cold minute.
Not when projected as an obvious bit of sarcasm, as can be noted from the
scatalogical "slang" spelling. When it's screamed in all caps as an
obvious expression of thoughtless contempt (like slams about "Uganda" and
"Albania", expressions like "crack whore" and the subject line above) it's
an expression of deep seated thinking, not dramatic effect.
> I have seen you do it before over perceived "racism" and "homophobia."
> ...ever heard of sexism Joe?
So it's true then? You really won't put out?
- J:.M:.555
dm_telvis5...@my-dejanews.com
ludvi...@aol.com (LudvigPrin) wrote:
> >Ummm... I wear a leather jacket and almost always a black or white
> >t-shirt.... but I have NEVER been diagnosed as schizophrenic... your
> >logic escapes me....
>
MORE GENERALIZATIONS AND PREJUDICES...
, more like
> the image of a self-absorbed couchboy who got older, but never grew up.
>
> http://members.tripod.com/~Chemo_Gnostic/chemognostic.htm
>
> It's pretty cute. The paunchy
PAUNCHY? FOR 6'4" I AM 20 POUNDS UNDERWEIGHT... YOU NEED GLASSES.
, unshaven face defiantly glaring at the world
who
> rejected him. It's hard to tell if the look is supposed to be coy, charming,
> daring, mysterious, or if he just noticed that his fly is down and is
wondering
> if we saw it too.
>
> >>But I mean, what do you expect from a guy whose web page is named after
> >an old
> >>chaos magic term for "Drug Induced Stupor"?
>
> _____________________________________
> Ludvig Prinn
>
> "They can hide the truth, but they cannot take away our desire for truth until
> they take away our minds."
>
> --Johannes Lynch
>
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dm_telvis5...@my-dejanews.com
Will Parke <wi...@westerdale.mv.com> wrote:
> ThePsyko wrote:
>
> > On 12 Sep 1998 05:36:07 GMT, ludvi...@aol.com (LudvigPrin) slipped a
> > monkey $4 to spew out the following:
> >
> > >
> > >But I'm sure he's a big tickle for her, being the Big Bad Tough Guy Who
Takes
> > >No Shit, with his cool leather jacket and black t shirt look, dark cynical
eyes
> > >gloating over the world for the joke that nobody gets but him.
> > >
> > >You know, they have a term for people who live in worlds like that.
> > >Shitzo-something or other. Something starting with "shit". Oh, of course,
> > >"schizophrenia".
> > >
> > t-shirt.... but I have NEVER been diagnosed as schizophrenic... your
> > logic escapes me....
>
> self-image and ego-masturbatory behaviour.
AND THIS FREE PSYCHOBABBLE IS FROM A PUBLIC AFFICIONADO OF RAPE PORN...
WHY DON'T THE girls LIKE YOU , LUDWIG? WHY DOES IT MAKE YOU SO ANGRY YOU
WANT TO TAKE IT BY FORCE? BUT YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE THE BALLS TO HANDLE THE
CRIMINAL ... YOU JUST WANK AT NAUGHTY FAKE RAPE PICTURES.
YOUR ACTIONS AS FLACCID AND INEFFECTUAL AS YOUR SILLY "PHILOSOPHY".
>
> C'mon, you think somewhere like alt.magick isn't going to be loaded with
> black-swaddled creatures of the night? <g>
>
>
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dm_telvis5...@my-dejanews.com
>
> > Will Parke (wi...@westerdale.mv.com) wrote in reply to dm_telvis:
> >
> > : What's your problem with anal sex, anyway? I know plenty of
> > : people who enjoy it. Are you implying that there's a
> > : materialistic reason that it's wrong, or just that you lack
> > : the chutzpah to consider anything beyond cutting a hole in
> > : the sheet between you and Niwi?
> >
> > Personally I once posted a silly msg to a BBS echo which
> > went something like "Any man worth his salt as a lover
> > ought to enjoy anal sex once in a while and that doesn't
> > necessarily make him gay." -- which should give you an idea
> > what I think on the subject ;-)
>
> To quote a gay friend of mine, to a silly striaght boy getting squemish
> about anal sex: "What? You've never taken a dick up your ass and you call
> yourself a MAN?!"
>
> > Chris and his wife Vanessa are practicing celibacy.
>
> "celebacy" bit is simply rationalization for the fact that girlfriend
> serious sexual hang-ups that preclude poor Chris from getting any pussy at
> being his main source of income)
THAT IS ABSOLUTELY UNTRUE.
he doesn't want to give up his one and
> only fan that sees him as the great genius
I NEVER SAID THAT. YOU DID. YOUR JEALOUSY IS VERY UGLY. THOUGH
I WILL TAKE IT AS A BACK HANDED COMPLIMENT.
he's convinced that he is. Can
> you imagine him actually having any kind of loving, sensuous relationship
> with anyone?
>
> > Perhaps he can explain to you why. Something about putting
> > that energy to a "higher" use.
>
> How the hell does that jibe with his recent conversion to scientism? I
> mean, the "we are following the curriculum of the A:.A:., letter for
> letter, word for word" bit he used to blather about made some kind of
> weird sense to include enforced chastity for magical reasons, but "energy"
> and "higher"? Isn't that just more "irrational fantasy"?
RIGHT OR WRONG,
WHATEVER I DO, I DO WITH TOTAL FOCUS. I TESTED THAT METHOD WITH
THE SCIENTIFIC METHOD, AND IT FAILED.
>
> Without any religious or magical justification for it, this chastity bit
> is exposed for what is was all along: da bitch won' give up da pussy!
EXCUSE ME, BUT YOU KNOW NOTHING OF CURRENT CIRCUMSTANCES OF MY PERSONAL
LIFE, AS MUCH AS YOUR PRURIENCE IS TELLING OF YOUR OWN UNFILFILLED NEEDS.
THAT BIT OF MANGLED QUOTE FROM AN UNAUTHORIZED PUBLICATION OF PERSONAL
MAIL IS OVER 1 YEAR OLD.
>
> - J:.M:.555
>
> WHY DID YOU STEAL MY PAPER? WHY WAS IT ON YOUR SITE?
BE A MAN AND OWN UP TO YOUR DISHONORABLE CONDUCT. JOSEPH.
abortre...@yahoo.com
Joseph <ma...@slip.net> wrote:
>She seems to be a major "brain" type
I'll take that as the compliment it doubtlessly was not intended to be.
>da bitch won' give up da pussy!
If anyone else said that, you would be all over their asses in a cold minute.
I have seen you do it before over perceived "racism" and "homophobia."
...ever heard of sexism Joe?
LudvigPrin
>
>MORE GENERALIZATIONS AND PREJUDICES...
Oh, you've added MORE to your web site? I'll have to reload then.
>> It's pretty cute. The paunchy
>
>
>PAUNCHY? FOR 6'4" I AM 20 POUNDS UNDERWEIGHT... YOU NEED GLASSES.
>
>, unshaven face defiantly glaring at the world
No, you need a facelift, you Marlin-Brando-lookin bitch.
LudvigPrin
>> weird sense to include enforced chastity for magical reasons, but "energy"
>> and "higher"? Isn't that just more "irrational fantasy"?
>
>RIGHT OR WRONG,
>WHATEVER I DO, I DO WITH TOTAL FOCUS.
Yes, he has "total" tattooed on his right hand, and "focus" tattooed on his
left.
> I TESTED THAT METHOD WITH
>THE SCIENTIFIC METHOD, AND IT FAILED.
Yet you're still celibate. I guess Nitwit got to like not having to put out for
you.
>EXCUSE ME, BUT YOU KNOW NOTHING OF CURRENT CIRCUMSTANCES OF MY PERSONAL
>LIFE,
Except that you're extremely angry over something over which you have no
control.
>AS MUCH AS YOUR PRURIENCE IS TELLING OF YOUR OWN UNFILFILLED NEEDS.
What was that phrase you keep saying? Ad hominem?
>THAT BIT OF MANGLED QUOTE FROM AN UNAUTHORIZED PUBLICATION OF PERSONAL
>MAIL IS OVER 1 YEAR OLD.
And you're STILL a joke in the American Northwest. I DARE you to come back.
LudvigPrin
>
>If anyone else said that, you would be all over their asses in a cold minute.
>I have seen you do it before over perceived "racism" and "homophobia."
>...ever heard of sexism Joe?
I notice you did not argue the actual POINT.
LudvigPrin
>to
>a thread, you might wonder why you're reading what people here are saying
>in the
>first place.
She's sticking up for the man she won't put out for. I guess it's a form of
sublimation to show she still cares, but doesn't care THAT much....
dm_telvis5...@my-dejanews.com
ludvi...@aol.com (LudvigPrin) wrote:
> >> letter, word for word" bit he used to blather about made some kind of
> >> weird sense to include enforced chastity for magical reasons, but "energy"
> >> and "higher"? Isn't that just more "irrational fantasy"?
> >
> >RIGHT OR WRONG,
> >WHATEVER I DO, I DO WITH TOTAL FOCUS.
>
> Yes, he has "total" tattooed on his right hand, and "focus" tattooed on his
> left.
>
> > I TESTED THAT METHOD WITH
> >THE SCIENTIFIC METHOD, AND IT FAILED.
>
> Yet you're still celibate. I guess Nitwit got to like not having to put out
for
> you.
>
> >EXCUSE ME, BUT YOU KNOW NOTHING OF CURRENT CIRCUMSTANCES OF MY PERSONAL
> >LIFE,
>
> Except that you're extremely angry over something over which you have no
> control.
>
> >AS MUCH AS YOUR PRURIENCE IS TELLING OF YOUR OWN UNFILFILLED NEEDS.
>
> What was that phrase you keep saying? Ad hominem?
>
> >THAT BIT OF MANGLED QUOTE FROM AN UNAUTHORIZED PUBLICATION OF PERSONAL
> >MAIL IS OVER 1 YEAR OLD.
>
> And you're STILL a joke in the American Northwest. I DARE you to come back.
d00d: there are 75 million in the ENTIRE American NW...wow! I should
be making some money from that kind of fame...
>
> _____________________________________
> Ludvig Prinn
>
> "They can hide the truth, but they cannot take away our desire for truth until
> they take away our minds."
>
> --Johannes Lynch
>
-----== Posted via Deja News, The Leader in Internet Discussion ==-----
dm_telvis5...@my-dejanews.com
ludvi...@aol.com (LudvigPrin) wrote:
> >If all you're going to do is bitch about people here without ever
contributing
> >to
> >a thread, you might wonder why you're reading what people here are saying
> >in the
> >first place.
>
> She's sticking up for the man she won't put out for. I guess it's a form of
> sublimation to show she still cares, but doesn't care THAT much....
YOU HAVE SOME SERIOUS PROBLEMS... and not just with common sense.
dm_telvis5...@my-dejanews.com
dm_telvis5...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
> In article <199809121915...@ladder03.news.aol.com>,
> ludvi...@aol.com (LudvigPrin) wrote:
> > >t-shirt.... but I have NEVER been diagnosed as schizophrenic... your
> > >logic escapes me....
> >
>
> MORE GENERALIZATIONS AND PREJUDICES...
>
> > the image of a self-absorbed couchboy who got older, but never grew up.
> >
> > http://members.tripod.com/~Chemo_Gnostic/chemognostic.htm
> >
>
> PAUNCHY? FOR 6'4" I AM 20 POUNDS UNDERWEIGHT... YOU NEED GLASSES.
>
> , unshaven face defiantly glaring at the world
> > rejected him.
CHECK YOUR FACTS, BITCH.
It's hard to tell if the look is supposed to be coy, charming,
> > daring, mysterious, or if he just noticed that his fly is down and is
> wondering
> > if we saw it too.
> >
> > >>But I mean, what do you expect from a guy whose web page is named after
> > >an old
> > >>chaos magic term for "Drug Induced Stupor"?
> >
LudvigPrin
So what makes you think newsgroups, even ones that don't exist, are public? Do
you read yours from the library because you don't have a computer? That might
be considered public.
>> WHY DON'T THE girls LIKE YOU , LUDWIG?
Actually, the girls like me just fine. Before I got married, I had more than my
share of girlfriends around the Bay Area.
>WHY DOES IT MAKE YOU SO ANGRY YOU
>> WANT TO TAKE IT BY FORCE?
Why does WHAT make so angry? Have you lost the thread of your own post here, or
are you actually accusing me of a crime?
>BUT YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE THE BALLS TO HANDLE THE
>> CRIMINAL ...
Handle the criminal? Handle WHAT criminal? You? Come west, young man.
>> YOUR ACTIONS AS FLACCID AND INEFFECTUAL AS YOUR SILLY "PHILOSOPHY".
As what philosophy? Have I posted my philosophy? What do you actually know
about my philosophy? Please elaborate.
Jeeez, chrissy. You're beginning to get pretty sloppy. Are we frightening you
that much? Are you really so upset that you can't even THINK anymore? Doesn't
matter I suppose, since you won't answer this post anyway.
LudvigPrin
like
>> > the image of a self-absorbed couchboy who got older, but never grew
>up.
>> who
>> > rejected him.
>CHECK YOUR FACTS, BITCH.
Check your picture. What part of this don't you understand. If you were indeed
so underweight, why do you have those paunchy cheeks? If it wasn't your very
best picture, why is it on your web site?
LudvigPrin
>be making some money from that
From being a loser? Not bloody likely.
LudvigPrin
>>
>>If anyone else said that, you would be all over their asses in a cold minute.
>>I have seen you do it before over perceived "racism" and "homophobia."
>>...ever heard of sexism Joe?
>
>I notice you did not argue the actual POINT.
And still haven't. Must be true.
LudvigPrin
>of
>> sublimation to show she still cares, but doesn't care THAT much....
>
>
>YOU HAVE SOME SERIOUS PROBLEMS... and not just with common sense.
I notice you didn't argue the actual POINT. Must be true then.
dm_telvis5...@my-dejanews.com
ludvi...@aol.com (LudvigPrin) wrote:
> >d00d: there are 75 million in the ENTIRE American NW...wow! I should
> >be making some money from that
>
> From being a loser? Not bloody likely.
IT IS QUITE FUNNY TO WATCH "LUDVIG" CALL OTHER PEOPLE LOSERS WHEN
HE MAKES 10 POSTS TO ALT.FAN.DRAGONLANCE A DAY, AND MAKES REPEATED
REQUESTS FOR "RAPE PORN" ON EROTIC BINARY LISTS.
AND BELIEVES IN MAGIC!
>
> _____________________________________
> Ludvig Prinn
>
> "They can hide the truth, but they cannot take away our desire for truth until
> they take away our minds."
>
> --Johannes Lynch
>
-----== Posted via Deja News, The Leader in Internet Discussion ==-----
dm_telvis5...@my-dejanews.com
ludvi...@aol.com (LudvigPrin) wrote:
> >>>da bitch won' give up da pussy!
> >>
> >>If anyone else said that, you would be all over their asses in a cold
minute.
> >>I have seen you do it before over perceived "racism" and "homophobia."
> >>...ever heard of sexism Joe?
> >
> >I notice you did not argue the actual POINT.
>
> And still haven't. Must be true.
>
EACH DAY. ONLY AGEING ADOLESCENTS WHO HAVE NEVER HAD SEX PERSIST IN SUCH
PRURIENT INTERESTS. GET A LIFE!
Erwin Hessle
dm_telvis5...@my-dejanews.com wrote in message
<6tjqfb$hmj$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...
>ONLY AGEING ADOLESCENTS WHO HAVE NEVER HAD SEX PERSIST IN SUCH
>PRURIENT INTERESTS. GET A LIFE!
Hmmmm...I wonder why *that* sprang into his mind...
Something to tell us, Elvis boy?
Erwin Hessle, 8=3
Joseph
> In article <199809141610...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
> ludvi...@aol.com (LudvigPrin) wrote:
> > >>>da bitch won' give up da pussy!
> > >>
> > >>If anyone else said that, you would be all over their asses in a cold
> > >>minute.
> > >>I have seen you do it before over perceived "racism" and "homophobia."
> > >>...ever heard of sexism Joe?
> > >
> > >I notice you did not argue the actual POINT.
> >
> > And still haven't. Must be true.
> >
> WHAT POINT?
That the bitch won't give up the pussy. Won't lick the dick. Won't even
give a goddamn hand job.
Does she wince when you touch her? Some kind of childhood sexual abuse
problem? Do the words "damaged goods" mean anything to you?
C'mon, admit it -- you're getting a little punany on the side when Vanessa
thinks you're out "working late". You can tell us, we won't say anything
to her...
> YOU JOKERS ARE GETTING MORE BORING AND REPETITIVE EACH DAY. ONLY AGEING
> ADOLESCENTS WHO HAVE NEVER HAD SEX PERSIST IN SUCH PRURIENT INTERESTS.
Like typing "CRACK WHORE" and "DOES CRACK OFF OF ASSHOLES" and "ANAL SEX"
always in caps? That kind of aging adolescent who never HAS sex?
> GET A LIFE!
Wheeeee...!
- J:.M:.555