Shylock... rewrite the Thelemite version!
Alrah
By William Shakespeare
Shylock, a Jew who has suffered endless discrimination at the hands of
his enemy, Antonio, asks why he should not be allowed to exact his
revenge now that he has been given the chance.
SHYLOCK:
He hath disgraced me, and hindered me half a million, laughed at my
losses, mocked at my gains, scorned my nation, thwarted my bargains,
cooled my friends, heated mine enemies; and what's his reason? I am a
Jew. Hath not a Jew eyes? Hath not a Jew hands, organs, dimensions,
senses, affections, passions? Fed with the same food, hurt with the
same weapons, subject to the same means, warmed and cooled by the same
winter and summer, as a Christian is? If you prick us, do we not
bleed? If you tickle us, do we not laugh? If you poison us, do we not
die? And if you wrong us, shall we not revenge?
If we are like you in the rest, we will resemble you in that. If a Jew
wrong a Christian, what is his humility? Revenge. If a Christian wrong
a Jew, what should his sufferance be by Christian example? Why,
revenge. The villainy you teach me I will execute, and it shall go
hard but I will better the instruction.
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Let is take Shylock the Jew and recast him as Shylock the Thelemite,
in whatever culture you find yourself in, in the world now... and
write your own piece.
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Hath not a Thelemite eyes? Hath not a Thelemite hands, organs,
dimensions, senses, affections, passions? Fed with the same food, hurt
with the same weapons, subject to the same means, warmed and cooled by
the same winter and summer, as a Christian is? If you prick us, do we
not bleed? If you tickle us, do we not laugh? If you poison us, do we
not die? And if you wrong us, shall we not revenge?
If we are like you in the rest, we will resemble you in that.
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So - is there a Thelemite version of this? Can there be a modern day
rewrite along these lines that does not simply switch the label 'Jew'
for the label 'Thelemite'?
Robert Scott Martin
Alrah <alrah-...@hotmail.com> wrote:
SHYLOCK:
He hath not disgraced me, nor hindered me in the smallest, though he
laughs at my losses, mocks my gains, salts my game. For I am the prototype
of the Sun in its splendour, in its uprising and down-going, and suffer
his fraternal pricks and tickles with wry humour and even admiration, but
without the slightest ell of clemency, charity & een pardon. Yet what's
his reason? I care not, save to scry his tactics the better to turn his
tickles to triumphs of my own. Am I a Thelemite? They would perhaps make
little mischief in calling me thus, but is he the same? As he impinges on
my inner eye, then yes he is my solar brother, and as he does not, then
his very being is as phantasmic as the sun dog, as fleeting &
forgetworthy. So let him jest and joust as he like, high and low and
secretly -- and I will bend my sinews & brains in tandem, that the
strongest win the day and the true will out.
Alrah
> In article <e70ad6b5-ee42-4bc2-ae8e-2a6c038d3...@v25g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>,
Oh wonderful script! :-)
Inspired by your angel - I have no doubt of it!
Alrah
> In article <e70ad6b5-ee42-4bc2-ae8e-2a6c038d3...@v25g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>,
>
But Robert - how does the story go from here?
In the original, Shylock is owed money, that he has lent by usary and
that Antonio's friends then offer to repay... but if you acknowledge
no charity then you acknowledge no usary, and thus needs be repaid
nothing - so that every man may make claim against you and expect to
be satisfied until your pockets are empty? :-)
So how does it go now? :-)
Robert Scott Martin
Alrah <alrah-...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>But Robert - how does the story go from here?
Good and more fundamental question. I would say it's quite possible to
deny charity as a moral necessity while recognizing the social obligations
created by debt. Under the terms of his contract (oath) with his
borrowers, Shylock should have every expectation of being repaid, and
every reason to seek redress if he isn't. Whether he gets it or not is a
function of the creativity and force he brings to bear on the problem.
That said, there appears to be a dearth of "thelemites" in banking; I can
only think of one accountant and one former mortgage customer service rep
offhand. Plenty of warrior princes in the City though, and even a
hierophant or two on the advisory side. But these latter types aren't
really in the shylocking business, and that itself seems indicative of one
thing or another.
In this scenario I'd play the Shylock more on the lines of Prospero,
staging vicissitudes in order to secure the union of the lovers while
taking the opportunity to make a mockery of the airy mandate of the
secular court: a king in disguise.
Alrah
> In article <bf998118-bb1e-44b6-8561-9c6c13d2f...@m38g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>,
Gosh! If you ever decide to write it then place me first on the list
for a copy! :-)
Robert Scott Martin
>> staging vicissitudes in order to secure the union of the lovers while
>> taking the opportunity to make a mockery of the airy mandate of the
>> secular court: a king in disguise.
In article <8c25bcd5-1f07-48ed...@o28g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>,
Alrah <alrah-...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>Gosh! If you ever decide to write it then place me first on the list
>for a copy! :-)
You're too kind. But if the "thelemic financial services industry" is
limited, I suspect the market for "thelemic Shakespeare" would only need
to be big enough to contain yourself and Paul Hume. But it's already been
written; all you need to do is go back to the original play and read
what's there with a certain twist in emphasis. Be your own dramaturge.
Paul Hume
> limited, I suspect the market for "thelemic Shakespeare" would only need
> to be big enough to contain yourself and Paul Hume. But it's already been
> written; all you need to do is go back to the original play and read
> what's there with a certain twist in emphasis. Be your own dramaturge.
While I often observe the time honored tradition of lifting from
Shakespeare for my invocations*, rewriting the bard to fit a given
agenda is fine for funnies, horrible (as I am sure you agree) done for
real. The reverend Dr. Bowdler tried it, and his name is immortal as a
result, but not in the way he might have intended.
After all, respect is due one of England's two greatest poets (for one
must not forget Crowley). ;-)
* The formula for charging a talisman by the Aurum Solis method
includes a charge to the intelligence of the planet that governs the
operation phrased something like "As of a king urging a follower to
some high feat of courage." Darned difficult not to make the thing
sound like the St. Crispin's Day speech. "And entities now abed in
Yetzirah will think themselves accursed they were not here, and hold
their plasms cheap, whilst any speaks that invoked with us upon the
day and hour of Mars!"
Robert Scott Martin
extent?]
In article <6289aa5c-9cd7-4125...@k17g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>,
Paul Hume <paul...@verizon.net> wrote:
>While I often observe the time honored tradition of lifting from
>Shakespeare for my invocations*, rewriting the bard to fit a given
>agenda is fine for funnies, horrible (as I am sure you agree) done for
>real. The reverend Dr. Bowdler tried it, and his name is immortal as a
>result, but not in the way he might have intended.
"If not the oath of Hippocrates, then at least the gesture of
Harpocrates," as it were.
Far be it from me to praise the Family Shakespeare much less more drastic
elective surgeries like the Tate Lear, but at least their existence as
foul copies is instructive to me at least: this is how Lear would've both
diminished and grown had she lived, this is the world where Ophelia simply
slipped, the tremendous elasticity of the texts. Maybe even a "thelemic
Shylock," another experiment in persona and incident that tests
assumptions and quickens the now-hackneyed bits.
>After all, respect is due one of England's two greatest poets (for one
>must not forget Crowley). ;-)
I don't know nearly enough about Spenser to disrespect him....
>* The formula for charging a talisman by the Aurum Solis method
>includes a charge to the intelligence of the planet that governs the
>operation phrased something like "As of a king urging a follower to
>some high feat of courage." Darned difficult not to make the thing
>sound like the St. Crispin's Day speech. "And entities now abed in
>Yetzirah will think themselves accursed they were not here, and hold
>their plasms cheap, whilst any speaks that invoked with us upon the
>day and hour of Mars!"
Whatever gets them raring to go works. The Shakespearean speeches survive
because they work; as long as you sell the cadence and get them all
exhorted, why not lean into it? After all, this speech is literally ad
lib.
Alrah
> >> In this scenario I'd play the Shylock more on the lines of Prospero,
> >> staging vicissitudes in order to secure the union of the lovers while
> >> taking the opportunity to make a mockery of the airy mandate of the
> >> secular court: a king in disguise.
>
>
> Alrah <alrah-pub...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Gosh! If you ever decide to write it then place me first on the list
> >for a copy! :-)
>
> You're too kind. But if the "thelemic financial services industry" is
> limited, I suspect the market for "thelemic Shakespeare" would only need
> to be big enough to contain yourself and Paul Hume. But it's already been
> written; all you need to do is go back to the original play and read
> what's there with a certain twist in emphasis.
I suspect that's what the best English lawyers and judges do, and they
probably imbibed Shakespeare from thier mothers first milk too. :-)
> Be your own dramaturge.
Miguel Alberto
forgiven. That's Karma. But also, God wont forgive you, therefore, you
wont be saved. Without forgiveness it's to Hell in a hand basket.
Hadit is the ancient Egyptian word for the Greek "Hades", as the
personification of Hell, which Crowley didn't deny was Satan.
Satan hates ALL human beings and wants to desecrate them in spite to
God. Those who think they are Satan's best friends, having got Satan's
attention, will be first. Satan (Hadit) will laugh at them as they
plead, "But I was your most loyal follower".
Satan isn't omnipresent, or omniscient. He is just a person who has
other fallen angels working for him. It was this world's first CIA, that
is, Mafia.
Liber Al Vel Legis has some facts, but some dangerous lies are also in
it. I read it forty years ago, and its insidious verses burned into my
memory. After all this time my memory isn't to accurate, but, I remember
some basics.
In here I recently posted "Nature e, Civilization 2" and no one
recognized that this phenomena was expressed in Liber Al. With nature's
advantage from the power of e=2.718... versus artificiality's powers of
2, you can see, "It shall be to you as 718. Why? Because of the fall of
Because".
Nuit promises nonexistence after death for her worshippers. All the
major Satanic cults have promised this. It relieved their members of any
fear of Karmic retribution.
The Thuggee promised that Kali (Satan in drag) would give her
worshippers nonexistence after death. Dharmapada, a member of this Vama
Margh activist cult, brought this false promise to Shao Lin.
From Shao Lin faith in this false promise spread to Japan, and,
Benzeiten, Japan's Kali promised nonexistence after death for her
Ninjas.
Hitler's Order of Saturn also promise Hitler and his Nazis nonexistence
after death. But, in the one substance, E=Mc², motion can only be in
closed circuitry, that there be something to move out of the way and
fill in behind. And, it is by this mechanism that Karma returns.
In the 1990's many street gangs became Satanic cults and Thelemites.
Following such commands as Ra Hoor Khuit's order to "kill and torture,
be upon them", such gangs tortured and killed any homeless people they
could get.
If you want to see a Thelemite society, go to Zimbabwe. The falcon on
the Zimbabwan flag is Ra Hoor Khuit. Mugabwe is a Thelemite.
Some say Crowley was being facetious, and defiant to sensitive British
culture, with his Liber Al. He may have figured that people would take
the whole thing in the spirit of that recipe with "blood of the moon"
and its bugs.
Do you know of any Thelemites who have actually eaten that recipe? Have
any Thelemites eaten those bugs?
Alrah
"Now here is the Mystery of the Origin of Evil. Firstly, by Evil we
mean that which is in opposition to our own wills: it is therefore a
relative, and not an absolute, term. For everything which is the
greatest evil of some one is the greatest good of some other, just as
the hardness of the wood which wearieth the axeman is the safety of
him that ventureth himself upon the sea in a ship built of that wood.
And this is a truth easy to apprehend, being superficial, and
intelligible to the common mind.
All evil is thus relative, or apparent, or illusory: but, returning to
philosophy, I will repeat that its root is always in duality.
Therefore the escape from this apparent evil is to seek the Unity,
which you shall do as I have already shewn you. But I will now make
mention of that which is written concerning this in The Book of the
Law.
The first step being Will, Evil appears as by this definition, “all
that hinders the execution of the Will.” Therefore is it written: “The
word of Sin is Restriction.” It should also be noted that in The Book
of the Thirty Aethyrs {Book 418} Evil appears as Choronzon whose
number is 333, which in Greek importeth Impotence and Idleness: and
the nature of Choronzon is Dispersion and Incoherence.
Then in the Way of Love Evil appears as “all that which tends to
prevent the Union of any two things.” Thus The Book of the Law sayeth,
under the figure of the Voice of Nuit: “take your fill and will of
love as ye will, when, where and with whom ye will! But always unto
me.” For every act of Love must be “under will,” that is, in
accordance with the True Will, which is not to rest content with
things partial and transitory, but to proceed firmly to the End. So
also, in The Book of the Thirty Aethyrs, the Black Brothers are those
who shut themselves up, unwilling to destroy themselves by Love.
Thirdly, in the Way of Life Evil appears under a subtler form as “all
that which is not impersonal and universal.” Here The Book of the Law,
by the Voice of Hadit, informeth us: “In the sphere I am everywhere
the centre”. And again: “I am Life and the giver of Life” {....}
“‘Come unto me’ is a foolish word: for it is I that go.” “For I am
perfect, being Not”. For this Life is in every place and time at once,
so that in It these limitations no longer exist. And you will have
seen this for yourself, that in every act of Love time and space
disappear with the creation of the Life by its virtue, as also doth
personality itself. For the third time, then, in even subtler sense,
“The word of Sin is Restriction.”
Lastly, in the Way of Light this same versicle is the key to the
conception of Evil. But here Restriction is in the failure to solve
the Great Equation, and, later, to prefer one expression or phase of
the Universe to the other. Against this we are warned in The Book of
the Law by the Word of Nuit, saying: “None” {....} “and two. For I am
divided for love's sake, for the chance of union”, and therefore, “If
this be not aright: if ye confound the space marks, saying: They are
one: or saying, They are many;” {....} “then expect the direful
judgments” {....}
Now therefore by the favour of Thoth am I come to the end of this my
book: and do you arm yourselves accordingly with the Four Weapons: the
Wand for Liberty, the Cup for Love, the Sword for Life, the Disk for
Light: and with these work all wonders by the Art of High Magick under
the Law of the New Aeon, whose Word is Thelema." - A.C.
Tom
> The New Testament says that if you do not forgive you will not be
> forgiven. That's Karma. But also, God wont forgive you, therefore, you
> wont be saved. Without forgiveness it's to Hell in a hand basket.
So then you're going to have to forgive all those people you think
have been conspiring against you and persecuting you all your life.
Or you won't be saved. Quite the dilemma for you, I suppose, seeing
as how your entire life has been devoted to hating them.
> Satan isn't omnipresent, or omniscient. He is just a person
No, it's an office. A set of duties to be fulfilled by any of a
variety of individuals. You have been listening to your biblically
ignorant preacher again. "Satan" is no more a person than "District
Attorney" is a person.
> It was this world's first CIA, that is, Mafia.
Nor is the CIA the Mafia.
> Liber Al Vel Legis has some facts, but some dangerous lies are also in
> it. I read it forty years ago, and its insidious verses burned into my
> memory. After all this time my memory isn't to accurate, but, I remember
> some basics.
Compounded with a whole lot of fantasy.
Miguel Alberto
there is no other morality". Even the Catholic accepts some pain to
avoid what they fear is eternal pain.
The True Will is to find relief. People don't have to see that their
pleasure seeking is seeking relief, "From the pain of living Ace; from
the pain of living" - "Spellbinder".
Everything is trying to run down. The True Will is seen in the Second
Law of Thermodynamics. And that which is being charged up, is being
charged up by that which is running down.
The Sun runs down as its light is released. That light is hitting
chlorophyll molecules, which then, by their orthogonality, turn air and
water into sugar. We wouldn't be here without such a mechanism.
Graphing such processes you will come up with "orthogonalities", 180°
and 90° angles, crosses. And physically, the chlorophyll molecule is a
crucifix with a magnesium crucified on it. "Magnesia" was a name of
Christ in the Middle Ages.
By orthogonalities, "One man's meat is another man's poison", happens;
and, we have Murphy's Law manifesting in daily life. "If I don't look
out for you Ace, who will?" - "Spellbinder".
Actually, our True Will is to lessen the differentiation of our closed
circuit, our entityship, from the One Substance, E=Mc². This rarely
includes running down our health; so, you see the conflicts there, the
conflicts that maintain existence.
Meltdarok
Whatever difficulties you are having, you are a strong one Miguel.
You do have more strength than the poster's here at alt.magick are
willinf to grant you--Fuck that! Get your own shit!
--
Meltdarok
Tom
> Everyone will ultimately agree that "Pain is evil, relief is good;
> there is no other morality".
No, everyone will not agree with that.
> The True Will is to find relief.
No, the True Will is to manifest itself.
However, it is quite clear that *you* suffer all the time and that all
*you* want is relief. It is unnecessary to generalize this.
Mr. Joseph Littleshoes Esq.
Miguel Alberto wrote:
> Everyone will ultimately agree that "Pain is evil, relief is good;
> there is no other morality". Even the Catholic accepts some pain to
> avoid what they fear is eternal pain.
Pain is morally wrong? immoral? wicked? how about pain that teaches?
That the human animal learns more from its suffering and pain that it
does its pleasures?
--
Mr. Joseph Littleshoes Esq.
Domine, dirige nos.
Let the games begin!
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Miguel Alberto
TRIASCA MOARTEA!
Over the past forty years I have been chased through forty one United
States and fourteen other countries.
Here is an email to someone who got in trouble for knowing too much,
that I have even posted here.
"The following of pleasure with pain is withdrawal, just like
alcoholics or drug addicts have painful withdrawal symptoms after their
pleasures, any pleasures are followed by withdrawal symptoms.
Yes, it is negative feedback mechanisms that pull indulgers in pleasure
back to programmed life. The programming is in the DNA. "The pain of
'death' (dying) is the grip of life".
The gravitational analogue of this phenomena would happen in what is
called "saddle" (parabolichyperboloid) timespace, which is in the very
ectropic (anti-entropic) part of the spectrum. It is very improbable in
the universe.
The sum of the negative feedback reactions is like a pendulum. The norm
set is in the middle, and when you go far in one direction, your
negative feedback mechanisms swing you in the opposite direction.
This is so prominent in life that, the colors assigned to the Pa Qua
(trigrams of the Yi Jing) are the opposite of the colors or those parts
of the spectrum. This spectrum is graphed on that Cartesian coordinate
system I described earlier.
When you're under surveillance the "pigs" that have you under
surveillance can't resist to illegally mess with your life. This WebTV
worked absolutely perfect last Monday.
Anyone could tell when THEY are getting into it. When my last wife and I
were under surveillance, the "pigs" who had us under surveillance
illegally turned the microwave up so high that the water in the toilet
tank boiled.
We both got temporary pancreatitis from internal burning. We know what
it was, so we left the state. Of course, we did plenty of complaining
and that trick hasn't been pulled since.
What THEY do is totally illegal. And, we never got arrested in our
lives."
Mr. Joseph Littleshoes Esq.
Miguel Alberto wrote:
> Everyone will ultimately agree that "Pain is evil, relief is good;
> there is no other morality". Even the Catholic accepts some pain to
> avoid what they fear is eternal pain.
Pain is morally wrong? immoral? wicked? how about pain that teaches?
Mr. Joseph Littleshoes Esq.
Miguel Alberto wrote:
> Everyone will ultimately agree that "Pain is evil, relief is good;
> there is no other morality". Even the Catholic accepts some pain to
> avoid what they fear is eternal pain.
Pain is morally wrong? immoral? wicked? how about pain that teaches?
That the human animal learns more from its suffering and pain that it
does its pleasures?
And The Catholic!!!
Oy Gevault!!!
An Absolute and Universalistic suffrage of absolute and total equality
..... fundamentally accepted as a foundational "Truth."
Oh dear! i seem to want to quote Cher! and .....
"What if the world were crazy and i alone were sane?"
--
Mr. Joseph (Obligatory Emoticon:) Littleshoes Esq.