Re: Qabala was Re: the Moon trump and the great unconscious
nagasiva
uncited:
>>> I think now, that is what the tarot cards are suppose to do........give
>>> us our "own interpretations". Sometimes cards will appear before me
>>> when I remember certain experiences I've had in the past. I'll read
>>> what waite says, then ask myself, what this card means to me. The
>>> memory will come out of the blue, and a card will come to mind. That
>>> is how I relate, through my own human experiences. When I look within
>>> the heart of nature or the cosmos I get different cards
>>> sometimes...depends what i'm meditating on. This seems to be the best
>>> path suited for me.
in the uninitiated this might produce wild results without coherence.
Calla:
>>> Connecting paths from the qabalah sort of leaves me
>>> cold when dealing with the cards.
it used to somewhat with me also, until I started from scratch where
the tree structure was concerned and attempted to make sense of it
as a kind decadic puzzle incorporating emanational and numerical
qualities to its symbolism.
Al Smith:
>> I have a certain difficulty discussing the pathways on the Tree, because
>> I don't think the trumps are accurately located, I don't believe the
>> paths are laid out correctly, and I don't believe the paths are numbered
>> properly.
there are numerous such diagrams. are you talking about some Kircher
Golden Dawn affair, a Crowleyan variation, or something else more
archaic and esoteric? Lurianic splendour?
>> When I talk about the Tree I have to sort of adjust my mind to
>> the conventional view of the paths.
indeed, I've set one before the other and attempt to explain how
the conventional might be seen in light of my "correction". :)
>> Needless to say, arguments about the meaning of the trumps
>> that are based on their locations on the Tree leave me
>> less than convinced.
dunno, I think the Witch and Universe are a perfect match,
personally, given the whole of the Tree image I prefer.
Joseph Littleshoes <jpst...@pacbell.net>:
>How do you feel about Fr. Achad (Charles Stansfield Jones)
>arrangement?
I found one here
http://www.necronomi.com/magic/hermeticism/achdtree.gif
> I used to just accept Crowleys disparagement of it then
> i looked at and thought about them, it aint all bad.
desiring to allow a confusion of details outside the
rational to lead astray all but those of his order,
the Beast grew upset that Achad followed his blind
out so far as to completely "corrupt" the entirety
of the Tree of Life. disposing of this as nonadept,
the Master disassociated with his "Magical Son".
the tool suits the enterprise. that Crowley's ideas
were sufficiently fixated that he was disparaging
indicates that his own insight was minimal or weak.
333
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"nagasiva" <yronwode.com@nagasiva> wrote in message
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> uncited:
>>>> I think now, that is what the tarot cards are suppose to do........give
>>>> us our "own interpretations". Sometimes cards will appear before me
>>>> when I remember certain experiences I've had in the past. I'll read
>>>> what waite says, then ask myself, what this card means to me. The
>>>> memory will come out of the blue, and a card will come to mind. That
>>>> is how I relate, through my own human experiences. When I look within
>>>> the heart of nature or the cosmos I get different cards
>>>> sometimes...depends what i'm meditating on. This seems to be the best
>>>> path suited for me.
>
> in the uninitiated this might produce wild results without coherence.
For the uninitiated, almost everything seems to produce wild results without
coherence . This illusion of incoherence tends to fade with time. Or the
illusion of coherence strengthens. Whichever.
Apotheosis
"Tom" <askper...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> "nagasiva" <yronwode.com@nagasiva> wrote in message
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>> uncited:
>>>>> I think now, that is what the tarot cards are suppose to
>>>>> do........give
>>>>> us our "own interpretations". Sometimes cards will appear before me
>>>>> when I remember certain experiences I've had in the past. I'll read
>>>>> what waite says, then ask myself, what this card means to me. The
>>>>> memory will come out of the blue, and a card will come to mind. That
>>>>> is how I relate, through my own human experiences. When I look within
>>>>> the heart of nature or the cosmos I get different cards
>>>>> sometimes...depends what i'm meditating on. This seems to be the best
>>>>> path suited for me.
>>
>> in the uninitiated this might produce wild results without coherence.
>
> without coherence . This illusion of incoherence tends to fade with time.
> Or the illusion of coherence strengthens. Whichever.
When and in what discipline was your initiation Tommy? Druids was it?
A