Ubuntu 9.10
Dr. Deb
I downloaded Kubuntu, Xubuntu and UbuntuStudio. They failed the Gateway
test, almost. I did get Xubuntu to load as a LiveCD by turning off
everything I could under "F6" and setting "F4" to "Safe Video" mode and let
it run several hours in that mode before I decided to do an install into a
blank partition. Then the fun began.
All went well until I got to the partitioning. I have only one question
about the partitioner, "What grade school class did they farm the
partitioner software out to?" The wonderful folks at Ubuntu know you are
too stupid to select a partition, so they do it for you, kinda sorta. But
do they allow you any input? Well, technically, yes. You can select
whether you want the entire disk wiped or to install Ubuntu along side
exisiting OS's. But no control over what partition, file system, Swap
location (I have a large existing Swap partition but it would not use it,
instead created a second Swap partition), left a large section of the HD
without any allocation, gave you no control over how to allocate that
unassigned space. As if that were not bad enough, at that point the system
locked up.
Fortunately, it had not written the bootloader to the disk yet and I could
reboot into my old configuration. Rebooted into PCLinuxOS (2009.1) and
restored the partitions on the HD and consigned Ubuntu OS to where I always
have, "The circular file."
I must say this, just to be honest, it system looks good and might be okay
on a clone, but this Gateway GT5220 of mine is very picky on what it allows
to install. Probably a gift in honor os the folks in Redmond, Wa.
Deb
J.O. Aho
You shouldn't multipost, it's really evil, even Bill Gates is nicer than that.
> Fortunately, it had not written the bootloader to the disk yet and I could
> reboot into my old configuration. Rebooted into PCLinuxOS (2009.1) and
> restored the partitions on the HD and consigned Ubuntu OS to where I always
> have, "The circular file."
It's more than enough with one bootloader, the few times I have more than one
Linux installed, I have the same /boot, that way I have one place for grub
files and kernels (of course some of mine run different bootlaoders like
slilo, bootcreator, depending on the architecture).
--
//Aho
Dr. Deb
Doubtful.
Since not everyone reads both, I thought I would post in both places
Now for the update.
Since I got Xubuntu up and running, kinda sorta. I thought I would give
Kubuntu a try. The LiveCD loaded with the above restraints in "F6"
and "F4" with no problem. I told it to install and the installer looks and
works better in Kubuntu, When the partitioner popped up it looked rather
staight forward. Set up the HD and started the install. I had the
internet connection up and running but when the install got to the "apt"
configuration the install crashed - twice.
I am now in the process of reinstalling PCLinuxOS 2009.1 and will be up in a
few minutes.
So far, and this goes back over several releasses, Ubuntu has the money and
the name, but not the "goods." You know, kinda like another OS company.
Deb
Dr. Deb
J.O. Aho
> J.O. Aho wrote:
>
>> Dr. Deb wrote:
>>
>> You shouldn't multipost, it's really evil, even Bill Gates is nicer than
>> that.
>
> Since not everyone reads both, I thought I would post in both places
If you have to post to more than one group, make a cross post, don't use
follow-up (if you must, you state that in our post), this prevents people to
have to answer the same question as they don't see what someone else has
replied and allows users of both newsgroups to follow the threat without
loosing information.
--
//Aho
Dan C
> I downloaded Kubuntu, Xubuntu and UbuntuStudio. They failed the Gateway
> test, almost. I did get Xubuntu to load as a LiveCD by turning off
> everything I could under "F6" and setting "F4" to "Safe Video" mode and
> let it run several hours in that mode before I decided to do an install
> into a blank partition. Then the fun began.
>
> All went well until I got to the partitioning. I have only one question
> about the partitioner, "What grade school class did they farm the
> partitioner software out to?" The wonderful folks at Ubuntu know you
> are too stupid to select a partition, so they do it for you, kinda
> sorta. But do they allow you any input? Well, technically, yes. You
> can select whether you want the entire disk wiped or to install Ubuntu
> along side exisiting OS's. But no control over what partition, file
> system, Swap location (I have a large existing Swap partition but it
> would not use it, instead created a second Swap partition), left a large
> section of the HD without any allocation, gave you no control over how
> to allocate that unassigned space.
Wrong. There are two other choices, one of them is "Manual" (I think
that's what it's called, going from memory here, installed it last
night). You choose that and you have complete control over which
partition(s) to use, which to format, which is swap, etc...
Look harder next time.
--
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"Bother!" said Pooh, as he garotted another passing Liberal.
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Dr. Deb
Will do.
Deb
philo
You sure missed something.
Ubuntu 9.10 like all distributions I've ever seen has custom partitioning...
However, I gave 9.10 a try it networking does *not* work!
9.04 worked perfectly but it was broken with 9.10
*all* settings between my two installations are identical
Just for example...I can get to Google and do a search
but not one link will connect.
Cannot get to other URL's such as Gmail or Yahoo
how could this one have been released without it being tested?
Dan C
Don't be silly. It works perfectly here (and with hundreds of thousands
of other folks). It's obviously something in your setup or hardware.
philo
Nope tried it one two separate machines which are both running 9.04
flawlessly. (hardware all different)
As I clearly mentioned...setup is identical
Checked the Ubuntu forums and it was mentioned that 9.10 now has IPv4
*and* IPv6 but I have IPv6 turned off.
Tried turning it on but no difference...
I am not the only one having problems...but true...
it looks like it's generally working
Dr. Deb
In addition to the bit I wrote originally let me add one thing.
ADVOID ANY UBUNTU DISTRO UNTIL THEY GET IT FIXED.
Yes, I know, shouting is not polite.
I am finally back up after trying the three flavors of Ubuntu listed below
and the longer I played with them the worse it got. Someone royally
screwed up when they released this POJ for a final.
What am I back up on, you ask. PCLinuxOS 2009.2. I worked for three days,
after getting my computer back from a hardware problem, trying to make
Ubuntu work. Why anyone would want users to have to do "apt-get" to
download Synaptic is beyond me. Once I got it loaded, I never could get
the sound right, this would not work, that would not work. I would
download this app and it would not work because supporting apps were not
downloaded.
Last night, I downloaded PCLinuxOS 2009.2, and in thirty minutes I was up
and downloading all the updates from the repository. Just over an hour
later I selected about 600 files for download and went to bed (it being the
bewitching hour). When I got up this morning all was installed and I was
good to go. The actual download time was less than an hour. Another
thirty to forty-five minutes this morning adding back in data files,
bookmarks, e-mail addresses, etc and I have a fully running system - that
works like a dream.
For those wondering why the rave about PCLinuxOS. I am a hard headed
pragmatist - it if did not work I would junk it, but it works wonderfully
well.
Deb
Dan C
> In addition to the bit I wrote originally let me add one thing.
Nope. You're a clueless, drooling stooge. Anyone who can't install
Ubuntu is a retarded fucking moron, or perhaps just genetically stupid.
This may help you in the future:
http://brandybuck.site40.net/pics/cluepon.jpg
But I suspect your real problem is this:
http://brandybuck.site40.net/pics/headsup.jpg
Bugger off, troll.
Dr. Deb
> On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 07:56:46 -0600, Dr. Deb trolled:
>
>> In addition to the bit I wrote originally let me add one thing.
>
> Nope. You're a clueless, drooling stooge. Anyone who can't install
> Ubuntu is a retarded fucking moron, or perhaps just genetically stupid.
>
> This may help you in the future:
>
> http://brandybuck.site40.net/pics/cluepon.jpg
>
> But I suspect your real problem is this:
>
> http://brandybuck.site40.net/pics/headsup.jpg
>
> Bugger off, troll.
>
>
Dan, you are eptitomy of those displaying the full range of the social
graces.
Deb
Dan C
Amax
> On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 13:55:19 -0600, Dr. Deb wrote:
>
>> Dan C wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 07:56:46 -0600, Dr. Deb trolled:
>>>
>>>> In addition to the bit I wrote originally let me add one thing.
>>>
>>> Nope. You're a clueless, drooling stooge. Anyone who can't install
>>> Ubuntu is a retarded fucking moron, or perhaps just genetically
>>> stupid.
>>>
>>> This may help you in the future:
>>>
>>> http://brandybuck.site40.net/pics/cluepon.jpg
>>>
>>> But I suspect your real problem is this:
>>>
>>> http://brandybuck.site40.net/pics/headsup.jpg
>>>
>>> Bugger off, troll.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Dan, you are eptitomy of those displaying the full range of the social
>> graces.
>
> http://brandybuck.site40.net/pics/shocked.jpg
Now kiddies, settle down. The distro that you've installed is the
Release Candidate. Why they would do this ala Redmond style, I don't
know other than the fact the Mark Shuttleworth wants the World to
acknowledge that he does not lie when he says that a release will be done
on such 'n such date.
I believe that the final, 'bug-free' version of 9.10 is now available for
downloading - watch out for those 'rc' letters in future releases.
I said in my blog - http://da-1st-amax.blogspot.com/ - that Ubuntu is
going to get in trouble by insisting on a 6 month release schedule. It's
a matter of trying to punch too much, too soon into a cohesive package.
Shuttleworth is already talking about the next release, 10.x something
with Gnome 3.x - hell, even the Gnome developers are eyeballing v. 3
alpha sometime in late 2010, early 2011. Shuttleworth is going to snap
his whip over the Canon developer team in order to make him look like the
Next Coming by boosting their stuff into the alpha code of Gnome 3.
I foresee trouble ahead for Ubuntu if Mark insists on pushing the
promised release schedule.
~Amax~
--
It may be our role on this planet is not to worship God, but to create
him.
-Arthur C. Clarke
Alister
if pclinuxos works for you then use it (i have used it n the past & it is
pretty reasonable)
its all the same under the skin so use whatever distro works for you/your
hardware
bosco
fwiw, had 10.x write itself onto a partition where it did not belong...