You and yiff - Where do YOU stand?
Nini Prower-Echidna
daily news roundup, thank you Snu. Anyway, seeing as I know little of the
past of ALF and even if such a thing had been started before but nonetheless
I'm giving it a shot.
I read that many furs don't much like yiff or spooge or anything else which
makes us look like weird fetishy types to the others out there. What I wish
to know is how you feel here about it, crap or art? Pervy or natural? Give
your two pen'eth worth here.
Loganberry
2004:
Hmmm... this could go one of two ways. It could become a fascinating
and vigorous thread, or it could descend into another boring
political argument. Ah well, kudos to you for giving it a go, and
let's see if it can work...
Personally I don't have all that much interest in the yiffy stuff - I
prefer "human humans" where that's concerned - but so long as people
have a bit of common sense, such as taking account of where children
are likely to be around, and not yelling about their bedroom
activities across crowded restaurants or anything, then I see no
reason to complain about it.
Basically, my rule of thumb (claw?) is that I'm fine with any sort of
yiff where the characters/people involved are consenting adults. What
they *look* like doesn't matter so much, but if the anthros or
whatever are depicted as mature, sapient beings with the capacity to
give informed consent to sexual activity, then I'm happy with that.
Right - there's an on-topic answer to an on-topic question. Maybe
this could be becoming a trend! =;)
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Dan Skunk
"Loganberry" <loganbe...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:Xns94A0254019BA7...@130.133.1.4...
I like the yiffy and non-yiffy stuff equally. I appreciate it for the art
rather than for "masterbatory enhancement." I have a preference for
anatomical correctness whether it be yiffy or not. Irks me to see males
with their genitals missing.
I don't have any particular concern about children seeing to it. Children
don't have any interest in yiffing so it's not going to have an effect on
them. Discussing bedroom activities in a resturaunt doesn't bother me so
long as you're not actually "yelling" or purposefully trying to be
disruptive. Other people might be trying to have their own conversations.
I also think it should be between consenting adults--whatever species.
§ńühwřŁf
<DVS0c.1594$qP4.414@newsfe1-win>:
> Been a little off-topic of recent and I shall blame the cold air for
Snu's
> daily news roundup, thank you Snu.
Thanks for keeping me in the fore-front of everyones consciousness :)
Shame on me for posting links to stories that will have a greater effect
on you than what you dream your fur to look like.
King Snuhw()1f
Nini Prower-Echidna
> Shame on me for posting links to stories that will have a greater effect
> on you than what you dream your fur to look like.
Don't get ahead of yourself, I just thought it'd be OK for something like
this your dictatorship.
Loganberry
> The original post is not off topic at all.
I assume that comment wasn't aimed at me, but just in case I'll point
out that I specifically said "an on-topic response to an on-topic
question". =:)
> I like the yiffy and non-yiffy stuff equally. I appreciate it for
> the art rather than for "masterbatory enhancement." I have a
> preference for anatomical correctness whether it be yiffy or not.
Yes, but in many cases the characters depicted are of species that
don't exist in RL. How do you know what "anatomical correctness"
should be? Okay, so you can often extrapolate from the RL animals
they're based upon, but it doesn't always work, since there are no RL
dragons or gryphons, for example.
> Irks me to see males with their genitals missing.
But not females...? =;)
> I don't have any particular concern about children seeing to it.
> Children don't have any interest in yiffing so it's not going to
> have an effect on them.
Hmmm... I'm not at all sure about that. Children are naturally
curious about more or less everything, and sex certainly isn't
excluded from that.
> Discussing bedroom activities in a
> resturaunt doesn't bother me so long as you're not actually
> "yelling" or purposefully trying to be disruptive.
<snip>
But it does bother many people, and as such I think it's only polite
to restrict your discussion of such things in a public place open to
families. I'd personally much rather people talked about what they do
in terms of sex than what they do in terms of violence, but again a
lot of people would be upset by it, and so it's considerate to keep
such conversation private.
--
Nini Prower-Echidna
> and vigorous thread, or it could descend into another boring
> political argument.
Political argument may just happen, thank you trolls.
Claviarm
>Hmmm... this could go one of two ways. It could become a fascinating
>and vigorous thread, or it could descend into another boring
>political argument.
Those are different things?
I like yiffy artwork. We'll look like freaks whether it exists or
not, because we are freaks. So there ya go.
--
Claviarm
ICQ 16521227
Dave the Rotating Hyena
until great Birnam wood to high alt.lifestyle.furry. hill shall come
against him.
>But it does bother many people, and as such I think it's only polite
>to restrict your discussion of such things in a public place open to
>families. I'd personally much rather people talked about what they do
>in terms of sex than what they do in terms of violence, but again a
>lot of people would be upset by it, and so it's considerate to keep
>such conversation private.
Don't be silly, I doubt there are any children reading this NG at all,
They'd get board if they did.
Polite doesn't come into it, That's only your subjective opinion, and
as you hardly ever bother to post here, It's worth less than those of
people who do regulaly post there.
Sex is a natural part of life. As much as breathing or eating.
It is just as valid and harmless a topic as those aforementiond
things.
Now Stop it.
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Scratch the Badger
<4044f8dd...@news.critter.net>:
>Loganberry <loganbe...@yahoo.co.uk> shall never vanquished be
>until great Birnam wood to high alt.lifestyle.furry. hill shall come
>against him.
>
>>But it does bother many people, and as such I think it's only polite
>>to restrict your discussion of such things in a public place open to
>>families. I'd personally much rather people talked about what they do
>>in terms of sex than what they do in terms of violence, but again a
>>lot of people would be upset by it, and so it's considerate to keep
>>such conversation private.
>
>Don't be silly, I doubt there are any children reading this NG at all,
>They'd get board if they did.
>
He was refering to a restauraunt.
>Polite doesn't come into it, That's only your subjective opinion, and
>as you hardly ever bother to post here, It's worth less than those of
>people who do regulaly post there.
>
Theres a bell curve of validity of opinion?
Why was I not informed?
>Sex is a natural part of life. As much as breathing or eating.
>
You left out defecating. How about drinking?
>It is just as valid and harmless a topic as those aforementiond
>things.
>
I like to watch myself come.But I'm not into 'scat' so I don't care to
watch myself go ;o)
>Now Stop it.
>
Bob Newhart did a sketch on MadTV a while ago where that was his punch
line. He's still a comic genius.
>--
>But the universe is a big place and, whatever happens, you will not be
missed.
>
Wouldn't that depend on your size? I'd say that the Andromeda galaxy
might be a bit obvious if it went missing.
Skytech
> I read that many furs don't much like yiff or spooge or anything
else which
> makes us look like weird fetishy types to the others out there. What
I wish
> to know is how you feel here about it, crap or art? Pervy or
natural? Give
> your two pen'eth worth here.
>
I see nothing wrong with blending sexuality with furriness, not that I
ever had a chance to be sexually active. I still enjoy furry erotica
both yiff (tame stuff) and spooge (racy stuff) cuz, quite frankly, I'm
celibate not dead! There's been some mighty fine work out there to
stir the... soul! Furry adds the exotic to a biased interest in
furriness in general.
Each to their own.
--
La gvatanta vulpo (The vigilant fox)
Skytech
^^
<@@>
.]
Skytech
> > Irks me to see males with their genitals missing.
>
> But not females...? =;)
>
All in the fur but yeah, something shows even if the cameltoe outline.
Too much fur, both fore and aft, make relieving oneself messy.
I think the missing genitals in much art is caution and gunshyness to
criticism of displaying too much and over compensate the other way. I
do it in my art. *Guilty look* My audience tends to point and get all
flustered when I use common sense and knowledge of natural form.
> > I don't have any particular concern about children seeing to it.
> > Children don't have any interest in yiffing so it's not going to
> > have an effect on them.
>
> Hmmm... I'm not at all sure about that. Children are naturally
> curious about more or less everything, and sex certainly isn't
> excluded from that.
>
Yep, if they don't know what it is, they'll ask!!
Silver Seams
news:c234if$12t3$1...@velox.critter.net:
> I think the missing genitals in much art is caution and gunshyness to
> criticism of displaying too much and over compensate the other way. I
> do it in my art. *Guilty look* My audience tends to point and get all
> flustered when I use common sense and knowledge of natural form.
This comes up rather amusingly in the "pet portrait" business. The folks
that do flat art have it easy... just show the critter in a pose where no
naughty bits are showing. But those of us that make three-dimensional art
have more of a problem. Me, I've only done a couple of dog portraits, and
those of long-haired breeds. They were both male, but it didn't matter.
But it's funny to hear some of the folks agonizing about having to do a
short-haired male dog, especially with a curly tail... ain't no way you
can conceal the family jewels on a dog like that, and being that they're
very often champion show dogs who make a fair amount of money for their
owners at stud, those are an important "feature."
I have to sympathize. There was a point, in the construction of this
horse (grulla Quarter Horse stallion) I'm doing, that it struck me that at
a certain level, I'm making a stuffed animal with genitals. Not quite as
prominent, though. OTOH, if I *was* doing a pet portrait of something
with enough room, I'd be putting in a strategically placed squeaker. (In
order to complain about it, the customer would have to explain how they
found it, right? Heh.)
I'm taking the horse (in partially finished state) to teddy-bear club
tonight, so it'll be amusing to see if any of the gals even notice that
he's not of indeterminate gender. I'm reasonably sure one will; she works
at the zoo. She'd check.
(Oh, and as to the original subject: I'm agin' it. Pornography in
general, though, not just furry. The furry stuff I'm slightly more
against on a business level, though, but that's purely an economic
motivation... I don't think adding fur to porn makes any moral difference.
But I've been all through it on aff, so anybody cares to know more can
Google for it.)
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Rabbitswift
occasionally looking at sexually themed furry artwork. Albeit, in my case, I
tend to stick to fairly tame stuff. Furs are sexual creatures too, after all and
{as Loganberry has said} so long as it is between consenting adults of
appropriate age then I don't see anything really wrong with it. I /do/ think
it's a bit of a stretch to call some of it art but there are artists out there who
can take this rather delicate subject matter and actually turn it into /art/.
It's largely a matter of how it's handled, really.
Of course I think that it's best to keep in mind that such things are not to
everyone's taste and I would never dream of displaying such stuff to
anyone {of the proper age, mind} who hadn't asked directly to see it.
"...I run like what I eat, how not, only better. Nobody runs like me."
---
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back. "And no wonder you are still a fox, still, after so long and long a time,
so much subtle knowing. Don't you ever ponder on it, why you should still
be a fox?"'
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Warren Forest
news:DVS0c.1594$qP4.414@newsfe1-win...
> I read that many furs don't much like yiff or spooge or anything else
which
> makes us look like weird fetishy types to the others out there. What I
wish
> to know is how you feel here about it, crap or art? Pervy or natural? Give
> your two pen'eth worth here.
The short answer: I'm in favour of it.
The long answer: I find it amusing so many furs decry the media fascination
with the yiffy aspects of furry. Um... well, maybe because it's
*everywhere* and obviously plays a huge role in the furry fandom. What
exactly that role is... well... that's a bigger question...
But personally the aspect I'm not a big fan of is the consequence-free yiff
frenzy ideal that many furries seem to strive for.
By all means, be fascinated with sex and draw it and write about it and go
out and do it, because judging from most of my English Textbooks, that's a
perfectly normal human behaviour that's even respectable to study
academically. But spare me the crap art and crap stories that feature
ever-smiling furries who never *ever* deal with any of the emotional or
relationship related consequences of sex. That's childish, and sex is for
grown ups.
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Dave the Rotating Hyena
until great Birnam wood to high alt.lifestyle.furry. hill shall come
against him.
>sex is for grown ups.
That's not what Canadian laws say!
Dave the Rotating Hyena
until great Birnam wood to high alt.lifestyle.furry. hill shall come
against him.
>>Polite doesn't come into it, That's only your subjective opinion, and
>>as you hardly ever bother to post here, It's worth less than those of
>>people who do regulaly post there.
>>
>Theres a bell curve of validity of opinion?
>Why was I not informed?
It's a natural part of how humans work, People will generaly value the
opinion of people they know, more than those they don't at all.
>>Sex is a natural part of life. As much as breathing or eating.
>>
>You left out defecating. How about drinking?
Those too then.
>>Now Stop it.
>>
>Bob Newhart did a sketch on MadTV a while ago where that was his punch
>line. He's still a comic genius.
Catchphrase based humour is vulgar.
>>--
>>But the universe is a big place and, whatever happens, you will not be
>missed.
>>
>Wouldn't that depend on your size? I'd say that the Andromeda galaxy
>might be a bit obvious if it went missing.
"You" refers to persons, since a galazy doesn;'t really have a
personality (that we can relate to) with which to adress the "you" to.
§ńühwřŁf
Now I have to thank you for raising the level of my power :)
BASK IN MY AWSUM RADIANCE!!!!!111!!!!
King Snuhw()1f
§ńühwřŁf
<f3va40pjd4ldvinja...@4ax.com>:
>On 3 Mar 2004 00:18:29 GMT, Silver Seams <silve...@silverseams.com>
>(Silver Seams) left the following spoor in alt.lifestyle.furry:
>
>> have more of a problem. Me, I've only done a couple of dog portraits,
and
>> those of long-haired breeds. They were both male, but it didn't
matter.
>
> Consider how many secrets "Lassie" has been hiding under his fur
>all these years...
>
Not if you look closely at the recent bit of CGI where "lassie" fights a
cougar in a commercial. Tape it or Tivo it and in the first scene where
lassie jumps up you can see the indication of a penis under his fur that
is moving under the force of inertia after the rest of lassie's body has
stopped when he stands upright. Quite funny :)
King Snuhw()1f
Nini Prower-Echidna
> BASK IN MY AWSUM RADIANCE!!!!!111!!!!
Heh, great!! Nice to know I have sway.
Scratch the Badger
>Scratch the Badger <scratc...@glay.org> shall never vanquished be
>until great Birnam wood to high alt.lifestyle.furry. hill shall come
>against him.
>
>>>Polite doesn't come into it, That's only your subjective opinion, and
>>>as you hardly ever bother to post here, It's worth less than those of
>>>people who do regulaly post there.
>>>
>>Theres a bell curve of validity of opinion?
>>Why was I not informed?
>
>It's a natural part of how humans work, People will generaly value the
>opinion of people they know, more than those they don't at all.
>
What a conundrum. I don't know my doctor but I value his opinion.
>>>Sex is a natural part of life. As much as breathing or eating.
>>>
>>You left out defecating. How about drinking?
>
>Those too then.
>
Maslow's hierarchy of needs covers all the bases.
>>>Now Stop it.
>>>
>>Bob Newhart did a sketch on MadTV a while ago where that was his punch
>>line. He's still a comic genius.
>
>Catchphrase based humour is vulgar.
>
It is a vulgar show. But Newhart added a bit of class.
>>>--
>>>But the universe is a big place and, whatever happens, you will not be
>>missed.
>>>
>>Wouldn't that depend on your size? I'd say that the Andromeda galaxy
>>might be a bit obvious if it went missing.
>
>"You" refers to persons, since a galazy doesn;'t really have a
>personality (that we can relate to) with which to adress the "you" to.
>
That makes sense. Avoid animism altogether.
Dave the Muzzle loading Jackal
until great Birnam wood to high alt.lifestyle.furry. hill shall come
against him.
>Dave the Rotating Hyena <dsa...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in
><4045c811...@news.critter.net>:
>
>>Scratch the Badger <scratc...@glay.org> shall never vanquished be
>>until great Birnam wood to high alt.lifestyle.furry. hill shall come
>>against him.
>>
>>>>Polite doesn't come into it, That's only your subjective opinion, and
>>>>as you hardly ever bother to post here, It's worth less than those of
>>>>people who do regulaly post there.
>>>>
>>>Theres a bell curve of validity of opinion?
>>>Why was I not informed?
>>
>>It's a natural part of how humans work, People will generaly value the
>>opinion of people they know, more than those they don't at all.
>>
>What a conundrum. I don't know my doctor but I value his opinion.
Did you note the word "generaly"?
There are exceptions, However, would you value his opinion if you
didn't know he was a doctor and he was dressed like a hobo and
clutchting an inflatable dolly?
>>>>Sex is a natural part of life. As much as breathing or eating.
>>>>
>>>You left out defecating. How about drinking?
>>
>>Those too then.
>>
>Maslow's hierarchy of needs covers all the bases.
You americans and your "baseball" sport...
>>>>Now Stop it.
>>>>
>>>Bob Newhart did a sketch on MadTV a while ago where that was his punch
>>>line. He's still a comic genius.
>>
>>Catchphrase based humour is vulgar.
>>
>It is a vulgar show. But Newhart added a bit of class.
>>>>--
>>>>But the universe is a big place and, whatever happens, you will not be
>>>missed.
>>>>
>>>Wouldn't that depend on your size? I'd say that the Andromeda galaxy
>>>might be a bit obvious if it went missing.
>>
>>"You" refers to persons, since a galazy doesn;'t really have a
>>personality (that we can relate to) with which to adress the "you" to.
>>
>That makes sense. Avoid animism altogether.
Say no to zorasternism.
§ńühwřŁf
>> Now I have to thank you for raising the level of my power :)
>> BASK IN MY AWSUM RADIANCE!!!!!111!!!!
>
>Heh, great!! Nice to know I have sway.
>
BRING SUNSCREEN!!!!
King Snuhw()1f
Scratch the Badger
<40471b5f...@news.individual.net>:
>Scratch the Badger <scratc...@glay.org> shall never vanquished be
>until great Birnam wood to high alt.lifestyle.furry. hill shall come
>against him.
>
>>Dave the Rotating Hyena <dsa...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in
>><4045c811...@news.critter.net>:
>>
>>>Scratch the Badger <scratc...@glay.org> shall never vanquished be
>>>until great Birnam wood to high alt.lifestyle.furry. hill shall come
>>>against him.
>>>
>>>>>Polite doesn't come into it, That's only your subjective opinion,
and
>>>>>as you hardly ever bother to post here, It's worth less than those
of
>>>>>people who do regulaly post there.
>>>>>
>>>>Theres a bell curve of validity of opinion?
>>>>Why was I not informed?
>>>
>>>It's a natural part of how humans work, People will generaly value the
>>>opinion of people they know, more than those they don't at all.
>>>
>>What a conundrum. I don't know my doctor but I value his opinion.
>
>Did you note the word "generaly"?
>
Yes I see you are well versed in hedging your bets.
>There are exceptions, However, would you value his opinion if you
>didn't know he was a doctor and he was dressed like a hobo and
>clutchting an inflatable dolly?
>
Probably not as much. However some doctors wind up on skid row so I just
might consider it.
>>>>>Sex is a natural part of life. As much as breathing or eating.
>>>>>
>>>>You left out defecating. How about drinking?
>>>
>>>Those too then.
>>>
>>Maslow's hierarchy of needs covers all the bases.
>
>You americans and your "baseball" sport...
>
Like apple computers and Kenneth Lay...
>>>>>Now Stop it.
>>>>>
>>>>Bob Newhart did a sketch on MadTV a while ago where that was his
punch
>>>>line. He's still a comic genius.
>>>
>>>Catchphrase based humour is vulgar.
>>>
>>It is a vulgar show. But Newhart added a bit of class.
>
>
Well...maybe you can find it on a warez group.
>
>>>>>--
>>>>>But the universe is a big place and, whatever happens, you will not
be
>>>>missed.
>>>>>
>>>>Wouldn't that depend on your size? I'd say that the Andromeda galaxy
>>>>might be a bit obvious if it went missing.
>>>
>>>"You" refers to persons, since a galazy doesn;'t really have a
>>>personality (that we can relate to) with which to adress the "you" to.
>>>
>>That makes sense. Avoid animism altogether.
>
>Say no to zorasternism.
>
Will that guarantee my safety?
北北北北北北北北北北北北北北北北北北北北北北北北北北北北北北
I built a fence between myself and the middle east...
Dave the Muzzle loading Jackal
until great Birnam wood to high alt.lifestyle.furry. hill shall come
against him.
>>>Dave the Rotating Hyena <dsa...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in
>>><4045c811...@news.critter.net>:
>>>
>>>>Scratch the Badger <scratc...@glay.org> shall never vanquished be
>>>>until great Birnam wood to high alt.lifestyle.furry. hill shall come
>>>>against him.
>>>>
>>>>>>Polite doesn't come into it, That's only your subjective opinion,
>and
>>>>>>as you hardly ever bother to post here, It's worth less than those
>of
>>>>>>people who do regulaly post there.
>>>>>>
>>>>>Theres a bell curve of validity of opinion?
>>>>>Why was I not informed?
>>>>
>>>>It's a natural part of how humans work, People will generaly value the
>>>>opinion of people they know, more than those they don't at all.
>>>>
>>>What a conundrum. I don't know my doctor but I value his opinion.
>>
>>Did you note the word "generaly"?
>>
>Yes I see you are well versed in hedging your bets.
um.., farmers cut down all the hedges round here.
>>There are exceptions, However, would you value his opinion if you
>>didn't know he was a doctor and he was dressed like a hobo and
>>clutchting an inflatable dolly?
>>
>Probably not as much. However some doctors wind up on skid row so I just
>might consider it.
23 skiddoo is an american prhase.
I bu
---
"Following the light of the sun, we left the Old World."
-Inscription on Columbus' caravels
Scratch the Badger
>Scratch the Badger <scratc...@glay.org> shall never vanquished be
>until great Birnam wood to high alt.lifestyle.furry. hill shall come
>against him.
>
>>>>Dave the Rotating Hyena <dsa...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in
>>>><4045c811...@news.critter.net>:
>>>>
>>>>>Scratch the Badger <scratc...@glay.org> shall never vanquished
be
>>>>>until great Birnam wood to high alt.lifestyle.furry. hill shall come
>>>>>against him.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>Polite doesn't come into it, That's only your subjective opinion,
>>and
>>>>>>>as you hardly ever bother to post here, It's worth less than those
>>of
>>>>>>>people who do regulaly post there.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>Theres a bell curve of validity of opinion?
>>>>>>Why was I not informed?
>>>>>
>>>>>It's a natural part of how humans work, People will generaly value
the
>>>>>opinion of people they know, more than those they don't at all.
>>>>>
>>>>What a conundrum. I don't know my doctor but I value his opinion.
>>>
>>>Did you note the word "generaly"?
>>>
>>Yes I see you are well versed in hedging your bets.
>
>um.., farmers cut down all the hedges round here.
>
Yet you still have hedge hogs...what gives?
>>>There are exceptions, However, would you value his opinion if you
>>>didn't know he was a doctor and he was dressed like a hobo and
>>>clutchting an inflatable dolly?
>>>
>>Probably not as much. However some doctors wind up on skid row so I
just
>>might consider it.
>
>23 skiddoo is an american prhase.
>
From the "flapper" era or the Roaring twenties.
So what?
Mu?
Dave the Muzzle loading Jackal
They all get ticks and die I think.
>>>>There are exceptions, However, would you value his opinion if you
>>>>didn't know he was a doctor and he was dressed like a hobo and
>>>>clutchting an inflatable dolly?
>>>>
>>>Probably not as much. However some doctors wind up on skid row so I
>just
>>>might consider it.
>>
>>23 skiddoo is an american prhase.
>>
>From the "flapper" era or the Roaring twenties.
>So what?
What tone of voice would you use when you say that?
Ghetto Chic, But arabic.
James Davis
news:DVS0c.1594$qP4.414@newsfe1-win, stated the following:
> Been a little off-topic of recent and I shall blame the cold air for
> Snu's daily news roundup, thank you Snu. Anyway, seeing as I know little
> of the past of ALF and even if such a thing had been started before but
> nonetheless I'm giving it a shot.
>
> I read that many furs don't much like yiff or spooge or anything else
> which makes us look like weird fetishy types to the others out there.
> What I wish to know is how you feel here about it, crap or art? Pervy or
> natural? Give your two pen'eth worth here.
>
>
I like it, if it deals with the emotional aspects as well. A strong
emotional scene can work wonders for a romance story. And it's not like
Shakespeare was clean.
I get annoyed by the pictures that look like balloons, that irritates me.
I want realism, (perhaps I should say Surrealism).
I have a mate online, and we yiff, but as allways, it is very emotional for
us, and we never talk about it with others who don't want to know.
And my family thinks I'm a freak whether I yiff or not, so why should I
care?
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Dan Skunk
"Loganberry" <loganbe...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:Xns94A0B623D6EE3...@130.133.1.4...
> "Dan Skunk" <_@rogers.com> wrote here on 02 Mar 2004:
>
> > The original post is not off topic at all.
>
> I assume that comment wasn't aimed at me, but just in case I'll point
> out that I specifically said "an on-topic response to an on-topic
> question". =:)
>
Although, apparently redundant now that I have another look at your post.
:)
> > I like the yiffy and non-yiffy stuff equally. I appreciate it for
> > the art rather than for "masterbatory enhancement." I have a
> > preference for anatomical correctness whether it be yiffy or not.
>
> Yes, but in many cases the characters depicted are of species that
> don't exist in RL. How do you know what "anatomical correctness"
> should be? Okay, so you can often extrapolate from the RL animals
> they're based upon, but it doesn't always work, since there are no RL
> dragons or gryphons, for example.
>
Yes. It is reasonable to hypothesize that such creature would have
genetals.
> > Irks me to see males with their genitals missing.
>
> But not females...? =;)
>
Both, but the problem is less obvious with females... You know what I mean.
:P
> > I don't have any particular concern about children seeing to it.
> > Children don't have any interest in yiffing so it's not going to
> > have an effect on them.
>
> Hmmm... I'm not at all sure about that. Children are naturally
> curious about more or less everything, and sex certainly isn't
> excluded from that.
>
Hmm... True.
I remember being curious, but I don't remember understanding it, or taking
any particular
Dan Skunk
"Dave the Rotating Hyena" <dsa...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:4044f8dd...@news.critter.net...
Makes little sense to me how much violence is acceptable, but sex is not.
There are others that might be offended by it, but there are others who are
offended by lots of things. Can't really be concerned about what every
stranger might think about everything you do or you won't be able to do
anything. And nothing's going to change if people are afraid if it.
Comes down to using a bit of reason and common sense. If it's going to
cause more trouble than it's worth then...
Scratch the Badger
Lyme disease is in the UK?
>>>>>There are exceptions, However, would you value his opinion if you
>>>>>didn't know he was a doctor and he was dressed like a hobo and
>>>>>clutchting an inflatable dolly?
>>>>>
>>>>Probably not as much. However some doctors wind up on skid row so I
>>just
>>>>might consider it.
>>>
>>>23 skiddoo is an american prhase.
>>>
>>From the "flapper" era or the Roaring twenties.
>>So what?
>
>What tone of voice would you use when you say that?
>
Nasal and whiney.
Me no speaky englisher, round eyes.
Starling
extravagant than in matters of sex. That said, I don't much like yiff
or spooge, snuggling, or even touching. I've been known to enjoy the
occasional erotic story, but I'm certainly duller than the dullest
fetishist. Quality of art is not determined by lack or presence of
eroticism. but more in how much skill you have, and the message your
audience gets out of your art.
Perversion is a natural part of not just furry, but society itself.
There is the normal and the weird; the expected and deranged, the
commonplace, the bizarre. Some people are attracted toward normal
things because they are safe, standard, and probably work fine. There
is an allure to the forbidden though, and that is probably the reason
for every single fetish in existence; that and coping with
insecurity. Someone had to eat the first artichoke, after all.
Starling
Starling
an inescapable atmosphere of yiffiness that puts even Furry to shame.
Pop music. o.O I have yet to hear a song that doesn't have something
to do with some part of our mating rituals. It's like pop singers are
birds, not people!
Even outside of pop music... there is religious music, a testimony to
certain religions's triumph over human nature. In folk music, the
song not about a lost or found love is exceedingly rare, an example
being an Irish tune called "Boil the Breakfast Early," although that
song was just people making pot bubbly noises and didn't have any
words. ^.^
I guess there are exceptions everywhere (Evanescence's Exodus) but the
vast majority of songs are yiffy, if horribly repressed by our
freakishly Puritan society. I mean, was Aladdin really talking about
the rug they were sitting on when he wanted to give Jasmine "a magic
carpet ride?" :)
Starling
Who finds Disney offensively sexual at times. o.O
Dave the Muzzle loading Jackal
Birnam wood to high alt.lifestyle.furry. hill shall come against him.
>Seems fairly innocuous to discuss in a public place to me too.
>
>Makes little sense to me how much violence is acceptable, but sex is not.
Erect Penises are banned from being shown upon british TV, But it's Ok
to have graphic film of people being shoved into deep fat friars and
fried to death.
Dave the Muzzle loading Jackal
until great Birnam wood to high alt.lifestyle.furry. hill shall come
against him.
>>>>>>>>>>people who do regulaly post there.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Theres a bell curve of validity of opinion?
>>>>>>>>>Why was I not informed?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>It's a natural part of how humans work, People will generaly value
>>>the
>>>>>>>>opinion of people they know, more than those they don't at all.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>What a conundrum. I don't know my doctor but I value his opinion.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Did you note the word "generaly"?
>>>>>>
>>>>>Yes I see you are well versed in hedging your bets.
>>>>
>>>>um.., farmers cut down all the hedges round here.
>>>>
>>>Yet you still have hedge hogs...what gives?
>>
>>They all get ticks and die I think.
>>
>Lyme disease is in the UK?
You buy them in plastic pots, Sliced in juice.
>>>>>>There are exceptions, However, would you value his opinion if you
>>>>>>didn't know he was a doctor and he was dressed like a hobo and
>>>>>>clutchting an inflatable dolly?
>>>>>>
>>>>>Probably not as much. However some doctors wind up on skid row so I
>>>just
>>>>>might consider it.
>>>>
>>>>23 skiddoo is an american prhase.
>>>>
>>>From the "flapper" era or the Roaring twenties.
>>>So what?
>>
>>What tone of voice would you use when you say that?
>>
>Nasal and whiney.
Not at all like pavoortottie then.
Death to Big noses?
Scratch the Badger
>Scratch the Badger <scratc...@glay.org> shall never vanquished be
>until great Birnam wood to high alt.lifestyle.furry. hill shall come
>against him.
>
>>>>>>>>>>>people who do regulaly post there.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Theres a bell curve of validity of opinion?
>>>>>>>>>>Why was I not informed?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>It's a natural part of how humans work, People will generaly
value
>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>opinion of people they know, more than those they don't at all.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>What a conundrum. I don't know my doctor but I value his opinion.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Did you note the word "generaly"?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>Yes I see you are well versed in hedging your bets.
>>>>>
>>>>>um.., farmers cut down all the hedges round here.
>>>>>
>>>>Yet you still have hedge hogs...what gives?
>>>
>>>They all get ticks and die I think.
>>>
>>Lyme disease is in the UK?
>
>You buy them in plastic pots, Sliced in juice.
>
You die from citrus fruit?
>>>>>>>There are exceptions, However, would you value his opinion if you
>>>>>>>didn't know he was a doctor and he was dressed like a hobo and
>>>>>>>clutchting an inflatable dolly?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>Probably not as much. However some doctors wind up on skid row so I
>>>>just
>>>>>>might consider it.
>>>>>
>>>>>23 skiddoo is an american prhase.
>>>>>
>>>>From the "flapper" era or the Roaring twenties.
>>>>So what?
>>>
>>>What tone of voice would you use when you say that?
>>>
>>Nasal and whiney.
>
>Not at all like pavoortottie then.
>
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