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JBarnettG

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Jul 13, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/13/98
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I am still not quite sure what to make of this group. Most of the people who
post here seem to be nice, intelligent people who have something important to
say about the supposed topic of lefthanders. But there are a few people who
have such big egos and small intellects that they are ruining it for everyone
else who might want to participate. I don't like having to sort through the
garbage to get to the good stuff. Do you agree or do you disagree?

dcpl

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Jul 13, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/13/98
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I don't think there is enough traffic in this newsgroup to worry about
sorting through it all so I just read it all.

I may be one of the people you are talking about because I did think the
post about the percentage of gay lefdthanders was a troll and thought it
should be a question presented to a newsgroup pertaining to alternative
lifestyles. Thus I replied with the "Looking for love in all the wrong
places" remark.

I am really not a regualar because I sometimes go months without reading
ng's . . but I have been following this ng for several years now and it
is consistently one of the most informative groups of left handed topics
which usually stays on the "supposed" topic of being left handed.

To answer your question, I just don't know. The usenet has changed so
much over the years and it is no longer simply an informative medium to
some, much in the same way irc has evolved. Also, people have different
ways of expressing themselves.
Personally, I would never use an alter ego to respond to a serious
newsgroup that is read worldwide, but that is just me.

Born a lefty,
___________________
David, dc...@home.com

tibbi

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Jul 13, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/13/98
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In article <199807130547...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
jbar...@aol.com (JBarnettG) wrote:

> I am still not quite sure what to make of this group. Most of the people who
> post here seem to be nice, intelligent people who have something important to
> say about the supposed topic of lefthanders. But there are a few people who
> have such big egos and small intellects that they are ruining it for everyone
> else who might want to participate.

as a long time lurker, in this and other newsgroup over the years, i'd say
it's about average.

regulars who stick to the subject most of the time. trolls who wouldn't
know a subject if it... hmm, well let's say they wouldn't know a subject.

<g>

just be sure to get a good newsreader with filtering capabilities and
place the troll authors in a file and you won't see them again. and
trust me that it will only take a "little" while to learn to spot trolls.

--
Tibbi Scott
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SHARON HITE

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Jul 13, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/13/98
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JBarnettG wrote:
>
> I am still not quite sure what to make of this group. Most of the people who
> post here seem to be nice, intelligent people who have something important to
> say about the supposed topic of lefthanders. But there are a few people who
> have such big egos and small intellects that they are ruining it for everyone
> else who might want to participate. I don't like having to sort through the
> garbage to get to the good stuff. Do you agree or do you disagree?
------------------------------------------------------------
I strongly disagree..... this is a "great" group compared to several
others that I subscribe to. If you want to see a bunch of egos getting
out of hand, try: alt.snail-mail. That group is comprised mostly of
Postal workers and the egos rule. There is a representative of
management that does her best to keep the tempers flaring. I have
virtually stopped posting to that group as it is almost always followed
by a flame from the afore mentioned management rep. which is then
followed with an all out attack on her by the masses with a few of her
supporters getting into the fray. It is almost impossible to get
anything of worth from the discussions. I much prefer "this group".
I have made some friends here that I hope to stay in touch with for
along while. Great people with "real lives". (+:
'Stuff

AzuraLeigh

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Jul 14, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/14/98
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>JBarnettG wrote:
>>
>> I am still not quite sure what to make of this group. Most of the people
>who
>> post here seem to be nice, intelligent people who have something important
>to
>> say about the supposed topic of lefthanders. But there are a few people
>who

>have such big egos and small intellects that they are ruining it for everyone
>> else who might want to participate. I don't like having to sort through
>the
>> garbage to get to the good stuff. Do you agree or do you disagree?
>-----------------------------------------------

I disagree as well. I've enjoyed reading about the experiences of other fellow
lefties. Many of the questions I've wondered about myself. I never realized
how many of us had struggles with elementary school teachers. I thought it was
just me.

I have not seen any one in this group with big egos, nor have I seen anyone one
who feels deprived because they are different.

Proud lefty,
Azure

Pipi

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Jul 14, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/14/98
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dcpl wrote in message <35A8800F...@nospam.home.com>...

>JBarnettG wrote:
>>
>> I am still not quite sure what to make of this group. Most of the people
who
>> post here seem to be nice, intelligent people who have something
important to
>> say about the supposed topic of lefthanders. But there are a few people
who
>> have such big egos and small intellects that they are ruining it for
everyone
>> else who might want to participate. I don't like having to sort through
the
>> garbage to get to the good stuff. Do you agree or do you disagree?
>

Oh, try alt.life.sucks if you want to start practicing your kill-filter!
Believe me, if this newsgroup is the worst of your Internet worries, well...

>
>I don't think there is enough traffic in this newsgroup to worry about
>sorting through it all so I just read it all.
>
>I may be one of the people you are talking about because I did think the
>post about the percentage of gay lefdthanders was a troll and thought it
>should be a question presented to a newsgroup pertaining to alternative
>lifestyles. Thus I replied with the "Looking for love in all the wrong
>places" remark.

It's funny, because I was reading a book on lefties several years ago about
lefties and homosexuality was given more than a passing mention without
being explicit about anything. I'm lefty, I'm not *really* gay. My brother
is gay, he's a righty. That's enough analysis for me.

I am curious about breach-births though. I've heard stories. I'm a breach
baby. My mother had 2 miscarriages before me. I'm wondering.

Pipi :-)

Sabrina®!§¡

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Jul 14, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/14/98
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I think as a newbie you should give this place a chance. It's really a great
source of information for lefthanders and righties who deal with lefties on a
regular basis. Just like the real world there are people who have "big egos and
small intellects" and as much as we hate some of the crap some people post it is
their right as much as it is ours to post if it is on the topic of lefhandedness.
Occassionaly a fight will break out, but an ignore or kill thread will suit just
fine if you don't wish to read it.

If you are regular reader of other newsgroups you will notice that this one is
low in spam and garbage compared to alot of others. Stick around awhile, you will
know who's posts to read and who's to skip over.

Welcome to alt.lefhanders... hope to see some posts from you in the future! Oh,
Bill runs a lefty mailing list on http://www.onelist.com . Just search for
SOUTHPAW. It's a great source of information if you can't check the newsgroup as
often as you would like.

Sabrina

Raff...@my-dejanews.com

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Jul 14, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/14/98
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Hi all!

I agree with you, Sabrina.

Pointless posts appear in all non-moderated NG. It is easy to write
nonsense. This very NG is only marginally affected by the problem,
sure much less than average. One reason may be that posters here
(maybe just because most are leftys?) keep their wits towards
occasional trolling, avoiding to fall in the trap to give too much
importance to wrong posters. This is usually the best way to deal
with them.

BTW, I thank Sabrina for the information she gave about the
lefty ML (that does not mean Many Leftys I guess).

All the best
Raffaele

In article <3584B217...@bigfoot.com>,


"Sabrina®!§¡" <acce...@bigfoot.com> wrote:
> I think as a newbie you should give this place a chance. It's really a great
> source of information for lefthanders and righties who deal with lefties on a
> regular basis. Just like the real world there are people who have "big egos and
> small intellects" and as much as we hate some of the crap some people post it is
> their right as much as it is ours to post if it is on the topic of lefhandedness.
> Occassionaly a fight will break out, but an ignore or kill thread will suit just
> fine if you don't wish to read it.
>
> If you are regular reader of other newsgroups you will notice that this one is
> low in spam and garbage compared to alot of others. Stick around awhile, you will
> know who's posts to read and who's to skip over.
>
> Welcome to alt.lefhanders... hope to see some posts from you in the future! Oh,
> Bill runs a lefty mailing list on http://www.onelist.com . Just search for
> SOUTHPAW. It's a great source of information if you can't check the newsgroup as
> often as you would like.
>
> Sabrina

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Galiganinda Dulin

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Jul 15, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/15/98
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In article <35A8800F...@nospam.home.com>,
dcpl <dc...@nospam.home.com> wrote:

>I don't think there is enough traffic in this newsgroup to worry about
>sorting through it all so I just read it all.
>
>I may be one of the people you are talking about because I did think the
>post about the percentage of gay lefdthanders was a troll and thought it
>should be a question presented to a newsgroup pertaining to alternative
>lifestyles. Thus I replied with the "Looking for love in all the wrong
>places" remark.
>

>I am really not a regualar because I sometimes go months without reading
>ng's . . but I have been following this ng for several years now and it
>is consistently one of the most informative groups of left handed topics
>which usually stays on the "supposed" topic of being left handed.
>
>To answer your question, I just don't know. The usenet has changed so
>much over the years and it is no longer simply an informative medium to
>some, much in the same way irc has evolved. Also, people have different
>ways of expressing themselves.

It still frightens me sometimes that I have to sift through commercials
wherever I go... and that the flaming, although it was always there, has
gone up a lot...

>Personally, I would never use an alter ego to respond to a serious
>newsgroup that is read worldwide, but that is just me.

The name I am posting with is not my legal name. I don't consider it an
"alter ego" though. My legal name is Amanda Baggs. There are few places
where I wouldn't tell someone, but Galig Dulin is more of what I am than
an assigned name would be. I have even gone by that name (and the
"Nightsong" of my login...Dulin means "Nightsong") in real life... The
only time I mind someone using a "false" name is when they use it to hurt
someone or be obnoxious, anonymously. I started out my USENET access
from BBSes where "handles" were the rule, not the exception, so I suppose
I'm kind of acclimated to that sort of atmosphere...


--
Galig Dulin "The web was woven curiously,
nigh...@netcom.com The charm is broken utterly,
Draw near and fear not -- this is I,
The Lady of Shalott" (Alfred Lord Tennyson, 1832)


dcpl

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Jul 16, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/16/98
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Galiganinda Dulin wrote:
>
> In article <35A8800F...@nospam.home.com>,
> dcpl <dc...@nospam.home.com> wrote:
>
<>---cut---<>

>
> >Personally, I would never use an alter ego to respond to a serious
> >newsgroup that is read worldwide, but that is just me.
>
> The name I am posting with is not my legal name. I don't consider it an
> "alter ego" though. My legal name is Amanda Baggs. There are few places
> where I wouldn't tell someone, but Galig Dulin is more of what I am than
> an assigned name would be. I have even gone by that name (and the
> "Nightsong" of my login...Dulin means "Nightsong") in real life... The
> only time I mind someone using a "false" name is when they use it to hurt
> someone or be obnoxious, anonymously. I started out my USENET access
> from BBSes where "handles" were the rule, not the exception, so I suppose
> I'm kind of acclimated to that sort of atmosphere...
>
> --
> Galig Dulin "The web was woven curiously,
<>---snipped sig---<>

I agree, a pseudonym or handle is a good thing. For instance, if I were
writing to a MUD news group I would use the nick I am known by there.
dcpl are the initials of my real name, an acronym I use for a pseudonym.
It keeps strangers distant and my friends still recognize me. Nothing
wrong with that at all in any group.

By alter ego I was referring to a role playing persona rather than the
serious self. IMHO it is all in good fun, but those type of posts are
difficult to take serious and something the writer should examine
considering this is a discussion based news group that is available
world wide. We are actually ambassadors to the left handed peoples of
the world. If you think this humorous and light hearted consider:

I cannot count the first time posts which state something like "Wow, I
am a lefty too, I never knew there was a news group dedicated to us!"
Then they get a dose of alt.fantasy in the form of alt.flames and we
never hear from them again. Even worse, people make it a point to show
up to flame us "inferior lefties" and we have to listen to the "brain
damage" theories all over again.

I really am not meaning to preach from a soapbox. I have traveled around
the world and have seen how delicate perception can be: The moment I
pick up my fork, spoon or chopsticks someone will always remark to me
that I am left handed. It never fails. People notice. This is the time
not to live up to the superstitions, wives tales or other general stereo
type.

Sorry for cutting in on your reply here, Galig. I wrote this for the
entire group because we are indeed a very "lucky" group of people, if
for no other reason, because we are extremely adaptive to our
surroundings because we had to be from an early age.

Thank you,

David Loney

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