Attn: Christopher "Ragnar" Roiland
Sandy
First, let's remind everyone of your motive for posting here and
attacking every post that is slightly negative about LASIK:
"I've been associated with both offices for about 6 months. Not as
an
employee though. I will be doing consultant work with them on a
permanet basis. Starting in July, I will probably be working out of
Dr. Petit's office full-time. I didn't decide to do this line of
work
because I was looking for a job. I picked it because I see a huge
need to steer people into making good decisions. It will be a big
decrease in money for me to begin with, but I think that in time I
can
make it profitable."
Twice we have had an agreement that if you don't mention my name in
your posts, I will not post here.
The first agreement was arranged through a third party, and after
violating the terms, you denied making any such agreement.
More recently, you and I agreed via email to the same terms. You
cannot deny that one.
If you didn't renege on the first agreement, you most certainly have
on the second one, which you and I made directly with each other.
Let's try a third go-round, publicly. Will you honor our previous
agreement and stop your fingers from typing my name or mentioning me
by implication and then hitting the Send button? Yes or no?
Scott
initially brought your name up.
I don't care one way or another if you post here or not...
"Sandy" <sa...@savvysneaks.com> wrote in message
news:1173922510.1...@n59g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
serebel
here. You should can your little line of crap.
Stick to making that good money from those lasik ads on your website.
Sandy
> I think perhaps a closer read is in order... it is your "friend" R Brown who
> initially brought your name up.
> I don't care one way or another if you post here or not...
>
>
> news:1173922510.1...@n59g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > Christopher Roiland:
>
> > First, let's remind everyone of your motive for posting here and
> > attacking every post that is slightly negative about LASIK:
>
> > "I've been associated with both offices for about 6 months. Not as
> > an
> > employee though. I will be doing consultant work with them on a
> > permanet basis. Starting in July, I will probably be working out of
> > Dr. Petit's office full-time. I didn't decide to do this line of
> > work
> > because I was looking for a job. I picked it because I see a huge
> > need to steer people into making good decisions. It will be a big
> > decrease in money for me to begin with, but I think that in time I
> > can
> > make it profitable."
>
>
> > Twice we have had an agreement that if you don't mention my name in
> > your posts, I will not post here.
>
> > The first agreement was arranged through a third party, and after
> > violating the terms, you denied making any such agreement.
>
> > More recently, you and I agreed via email to the same terms. You
> > cannot deny that one.
>
> > If you didn't renege on the first agreement, you most certainly have
> > on the second one, which you and I made directly with each other.
>
> > Let's try a third go-round, publicly. Will you honor our previous
> > agreement and stop your fingers from typing my name or mentioning me
>
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Scott, I don't have any friends here and it doesn't matter "who posted
first".
Christopher Roiland does care if I post here. He cares a great deal,
or he wouldn't enter into such an agreeement. I don't care if you
care if I post here, and I don't care if you post here. Unless you
are Christopher Roiland, that is. Why you would answer a post sent to
his attention.....you obviously care for some reason.
Scott
surprised when others reply?
is this somehow your private news group?... where only your rules apply?... you
were clearly trying to provoke a response... so don't play stupid when you get
one.
there is a novel new technology called email... very private... look into it.
but then we wouldn't all get to see you "perform"... which is what you really
wanted.
"Sandy" <sa...@savvysneaks.com> wrote in message
news:1173928625.1...@y66g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
Sandy
> why would you send a post to his attention in a public news group and then be
> surprised when others reply?
> is this somehow your private news group?... where only your rules apply?... you
> were clearly trying to provoke a response... so don't play stupid when you get
> one.
> there is a novel new technology called email... very private... look into it.
> but then we wouldn't all get to see you "perform"... which is what you really
> wanted.
No, actually Christopher obviously doesn't honor private email
agreements so I am publicly asking him to keep his word this time. It
is my hope that if the agreement is reinstated with witnesses in this
forum, he will respect it.
He seems to be the only one of you three who doesn't want to respond.
Obviously, as always, posting in this cesspool is a real waste of time
and life is too short as it is.
serebel
>
> He seems to be the only one of you three who doesn't want to respond.
> Obviously, as always, posting in this cesspool is a real waste of time
> and life is too short as it is.
Yet you still come here to post your usual faulty stats, the made up
"patients" ,outright lies, etc.
It's to attract people to your website so you can cash in on lasik
ads.
Ragnar
about you. And you never stuck to your agreeement anyway... posting
as LasikNightmare and two other lesser used aliases.. and having your
beasty partners post on your behalf.
capnsp...@yahoo.com
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> On Mar 15, 12:35 pm, "Sandy" <s...@savvysneaks.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Christopher Roiland:
>
> > First, let's remind everyone of your motive for posting here and
> > attacking every post that is slightly negative about LASIK:
>
> > "I've been associated with both offices for about 6 months. Not as
> > an
> > employee though. I will be doing consultant work with them on a
> > permanet basis. Starting in July, I will probably be working out of
> > Dr. Petit's office full-time. I didn't decide to do this line of
> > work
> > because I was looking for a job. I picked it because I see a huge
> > need to steer people into making good decisions. It will be a big
> > decrease in money for me to begin with, but I think that in time I
> > can
> > make it profitable."
>
>
> > Twice we have had an agreement that if you don't mention my name in
> > your posts, I will not post here.
>
> > The first agreement was arranged through a third party, and after
> > violating the terms, you denied making any such agreement.
>
> > More recently, you and I agreed via email to the same terms. You
> > cannot deny that one.
>
> > If you didn't renege on the first agreement, you most certainly have
> > on the second one, which you and I made directly with each other.
>
> > Let's try a third go-round, publicly. Will you honor our previous
> > agreement and stop your fingers from typing my name or mentioning me
> > by implication and then hitting the Send button? Yes or no?
>
> I know his real name). I am known to many on this NG having had a
> successful Laser Surgery in 2004 and still going great! Prior to
> Christopher posting here, you could get valuable information about
> Lasik in a friendly environment. Christopher came on the scene in a
> very aggressive way. I can still remember being verbally bullied by
> him and I was one of the people who was happy with my surgery. He
> never showed respect to those of us who had been around for a while,
> he came in with his fists flying. I believe that the huge wave of anti
> lasik posters here have sprung up in response to Christopher. He never
> acknowledges the fact that bad outcomes do occur (although I think
> some of the anti lasik people exaggerate) and he compounds this by
> belittling them. How do have a decent discussion with anyone if they
> are calling you crazy, deranged, etc...?
>
> This was a great, friendly little NG when I was first posting here.
> There were some very knowledgeable people who gave up because of the
> abuse. I have read enough posts by Christopher to know that he wont
> acknowledge that he is the problem here, but sometimes I wish he would
> just post useful information or go away. He has driven away all the
> really helpful people and all that is left are the ones who want to
> fight with him. There used to be enough people posting here for it to
> be considered a moderately busy NG. Now it is a dustbowl with only a
> few people posting here under various aliases.
>
> Anyway, I am now 3 years out from my surgery and still going strong!
>
> Linda.- Hide quoted text -
capnsp...@yahoo.com
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> On Mar 15, 12:35 pm, "Sandy" <s...@savvysneaks.com> wrote:
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>
>
> > First, let's remind everyone of your motive for posting here and
> > attacking every post that is slightly negative about LASIK:
>
> > "I've been associated with both offices for about 6 months. Not as
> > an
> > employee though. I will be doing consultant work with them on a
> > permanet basis. Starting in July, I will probably be working out of
> > Dr. Petit's office full-time. I didn't decide to do this line of
> > work
> > because I was looking for a job. I picked it because I see a huge
> > need to steer people into making good decisions. It will be a big
> > decrease in money for me to begin with, but I think that in time I
> > can
> > make it profitable."
>
>
> > Twice we have had an agreement that if you don't mention my name in
> > your posts, I will not post here.
>
> > The first agreement was arranged through a third party, and after
> > violating the terms, you denied making any such agreement.
>
> > More recently, you and I agreed via email to the same terms. You
> > cannot deny that one.
>
> > If you didn't renege on the first agreement, you most certainly have
> > on the second one, which you and I made directly with each other.
>
> > Let's try a third go-round, publicly. Will you honor our previous
> > agreement and stop your fingers from typing my name or mentioning me
> > by implication and then hitting the Send button? Yes or no?
>
He is truly a piece of trash and has made this newsgroup a total
sewer.
You could be a used car salesman and tell outright lies and not be
hazardous to people's health but to sell potentially dangerous
unnecessary eye surgery downplaying the risks for profit is
unforgiveable.
Attacking the injured takes it to a another level yet. You Chris,are
the king of scum. Congratulations :/
Glenn - USAEyes.org
continues to be well with your Lasik.
You may want to stop by our new forum at
http://www.USAEyes.org/Ask-Lasik-Expert/
Glenn Hagele
Executive Director
USAEyes.org
Patient Advocacy Surgeon Certification
"Consider and Choose With Confidence"
Email to glenn dot hagele at usaeyes dot org
Lasik Bulletin Board
http://www.USAEyes.org/Ask-Lasik-Expert/
I am not a doctor.
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All Rights Reserved
Ragnar
Ragnar. I'm the bad guy huh?
Let me just list off the cast of characters in the playground..
without their multiple aliases.. who have truly destroyed this
newsgroup and would all do the world a favor if they were to vanish.
Link
Minarik
Keller
Cofer
Burch
Kantis
Hanson
I am intentionally omitting two doctors from that list because I think
they have gained a sense of reality.
The idea that I have ruined this group is as far from the truth as can
be fathomed. I even told witchiepoo NOT to have her 10th experimental
surgery.. but the beast is hell-bent on having it done. Go figure.
Hanson's case is tragic because he had a lot of potential - and is
quite clever - but his obsession has destroyed him. The rest of those
clowns never would have amounted to anything. Hanson is the only one
in that list that should not be lobotomized. But still, he has taken
the wrong path... call him Anakin if you will.