Any connection between the Shelta and Yola languages?
David Jones
David
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David Jones
Gerry Doyle
"David Jones" <djo...@NOSPAM.borve.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Is there a connection between the Shelta and Yola languages?
Not much, I'd imagine, between a modern language of Irish travellers and
that of medieval Norman invaders.
G
David Jones
NOFECKINSPAMeircom.net> writes
Shelta dates back much further than modern times, including in Wexford.
Yola took on many influences over time, eventually being spoken mainly
in the lower classes. (Strongbow and Robert Fitzstephens were Norman but
many of the settlers at that time spoke West-Saxon). Has anyone reading
this got extensive knowledge of the respective vocabularies?
On Yola
http://homepage.tinet.ie/~taghmon/histsoc/vol3/chapter4/chapter4.htm
David
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David Jones
Gerry Doyle
> In article <dacljb$4bd$1...@reader01.news.esat.net>, Gerry Doyle <alacrity@
> NOFECKINSPAMeircom.net> writes
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> >"David Jones" <djo...@NOSPAM.borve.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
> >news:NHIrpUAz...@borve.demon.co.uk...
> >> Is there a connection between the Shelta and Yola languages?
> >
> >Not much, I'd imagine, between a modern language of Irish travellers and
> >that of medieval Norman invaders.
>
> Shelta dates back much further than modern times, including in Wexford.
Perhaps, but no-one can say that for sure, by modern I meant the last 200
years.
> Yola took on many influences over time, eventually being spoken mainly
> in the lower classes. (Strongbow and Robert Fitzstephens were Norman but
> many of the settlers at that time spoke West-Saxon).
The dialect of English that became known as Yola would originally have been
brought over with the Saxon lower classes in the first place, the likes of
the Norman lords would have spoken the French of the time, plus there would
have been their Welsh soldiery adding to the linguistic mix.
Shelta on the other hand is mainly composed of Irish-derived words.
Has anyone reading
> this got extensive knowledge of the respective vocabularies?
What there is of both are there to be found online easily enough. What
makes you wonder about a connection between the two?
G