Re: faqiraana aaye sadaa kar chale
Shyam
Thanks for posting this beautiful ghazal. I guess the 4th--7th shers
are sung by Lata in the song. Is there a full version of it too?
I like it immensely(I guess because the tune is touching and sung
excellently by Lata), but not sure about the meanings. Request you to
post the meanings too.
Thanks,
Shyam
Roshan
> So beautifully sung by none other than Lata mangeshkar in bazar
movie.
> So many times I have heard this song, but still whenever I listen
this
> song, I feel strange nervous infinite peace in my mind.
>
> So let us refresh us with this memorable ghazal by Meer Taqi Meer..
Thanks for the posting neo.
For those who are interested, look up message id
378DEAED...@ececs.uc.edu using google's advanced search. It
should point you to a message thread from some years ago which deals
with this very Ghazal. You will be able to peek at a couple of aSh`Ar
in addition to what neo has already posted today.
cheers,
rosh
Roshan
like email ids. The message-id to look for is "378DEAED.C8383680"
followed by "@ececs.uc.edu". Alternatively, search for the subject
"Help with a poem".
rosh
Shyam
I could find the thread ...it has touched me so much..still getting
over it.
Not that I want to ;-)
Shyam
Zafar
This Ghazal has 13 ash'aar (and not 9, as appears from your post).
What's more, I have an "unpublished" she'er of this Ghazal as well,
i.e., one that is not included in any kulliyaat.
Zafar
UVR
Why tempt the already tempted, Zafar saahib. Please post the
remaining ash'aar of the Ghazal.
Expectantly yours,
-UVR.
Roshan Kamath
> This Ghazal has 13 ash'aar (and not 9, as appears from your post).
> What's more, I have an "unpublished" she'er of this Ghazal as well,
> i.e., one that is not included in any kulliyaat.
In 1999 when this Ghazal was discussed, the following additional aSh`Ar
'came to light':
na dEkHA Gham-E dOstA.n Shukr haE
hamI.n dAGh apnA dikHA kar ChalE
ShifA apnI taqdIr hI mE.n na thI
keH maqdUr tak tO davA kar ChalE
[keH maqdUr bHar tO davA kar ChalE?]
voH kyA ChIz tHI Ah jis kE li'E
har ik ChIz sE dil uTHA kar ChalE
I hazard to guess that these are among the 13 aSh`Ar that you mentioned.
That still leaves us with 2 missing aSh`Ar!
I second UVR's request - please post those 'hidden gems' at your
earliest convenience.
eagerly,
rosh
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- गोगो (शक्ती कपूर) [अदाज़ अपना अपना]
UVR
> [...]
Roshan saahib,
gustaaKhii m'aaf, for this OT post, but magar 'Andaaz Apna
Apna' ke hazrat-e-'gogo' kaa asl naam "शक्ती" kapoor naheeN,
"शक्ति" kapoor hai
Just thought you might like to know...
-UVR.
Zafar
UVR wrote:
>
> Why tempt the already tempted, Zafar saahib. Please post the
> remaining ash'aar of the Ghazal.
>
> Expectantly yours,
Your Expectancy!
aap ke shu'ala e ishtiyaaq ko havaa denaa maqsood naheeN thaa, bas maiN
hee apnee kitaaboN se thoRaa door thaa. Khair, ALUP ke record ke li'ye
pooree Ghazal haazir hai:
faqeeraana aa'ye sadaa kar chale
k miyaaN Khush raho ham du'aa kar chale
[ba'az nusKhoN meN doosre misre ke shuru' meN "k" naheeN hai, lekin
bazaahar yehee matn durust ma'aloom hotaa hai]
jo tujh bin na jeene ko kehte the ham
so is ehd ko ab vafaa kar chale
shifaa apnee taqdeer hee meN na thee
k maqdoor tak to davaa kar chale
vo kyaa cheez hai aah jis ke li'ye
har ik cheez se dil uThaa kar chale
paRe aise asbaab paayaan e kaar
k naachaar yooN jee jalaa kar chale*
*yehee vo "Ghair-matboo'a" she'er hai jis kaa maiN zikr kar rahaa thaa.
bas aik tas'heeh farmaa leeji'ye: chand maah pehle Bharat se Mir kee
aik kulliyaat shaa'e huvee hai jis meN she'er e haazaa maujood hai. is
ittilaa' ke li'ye maiN aik puraane ALUPer kaa mamnoon hooN.
ko'yee naa-umeedana karte nigaah
so tum ham se moonh bhee chhupaa kar chale
bahut aarzoo thee galee kee tiree
so yaaN se lahoo meN nahaa kar chale
dikhaa'yee di'ye yooN k bai-Khud kiyaa
hameN aap se bhee judaa kar chale
jabeeN sijda karte hee karte ghisee*
haq e bandagee ham adaa kar chale
*ba'az nusKhoN meN "ga'yee" hai
parishtish kee yaaN tak k ai but tujhe
nazar meN sabhoN kee Khudaa kar chale
jhaRe jis tarah* phool gul-ban se yooN
chaman meN jahaaN ke ham aa kar chale
ba'az nusKhoN meN "tarah" ke ba-jaa'ye "rang" hai
na dekhaa Gham e daustaaN shukr hai
hameeN daaGh apnaa dikhaa kar chale
ga'yee umr dar band e fikr e Ghazal
so ye kaam aisaa baRaa kar chale
kaheN kyaa jo poochhe ko'yee ham se Mir
jahaaN meN tum aa'ye the kyaa kar chale
---
Roshan jee:
"paabagil.." aik "dummy" email id hai jo maiN "spam" se bachne ke li'ye
istemaal kartaa hooN. aap mujhe mere puraane pate "zafar AT eurdubazaar
DOT com" par Khat likh sakte haiN (aur likhte rahe haiN! :)
aadaab arz hai,
Zafar
Roshan
> k miyaaN Khush raho ham du'aa kar chale
>
> [ba'az nusKhoN meN doosre misre ke shuru' meN "k" naheeN hai, lekin
> bazaahar yehee matn durust ma'aloom hotaa hai]
But, Zafar Sb., how does one reconcile/justify the metrical error that
this introduces?
Also, I'm trying, but I fail to see the real need for the "k". With the
"k", the reading of the She`r seems a tad convoluted, doesn't it? Mebbe
it is just me ...
> "paabagil.." aik "dummy" email id hai jo maiN "spam" se bachne ke
li'ye
> istemaal kartaa hooN. aap mujhe mere puraane pate "zafar AT
eurdubazaar
> DOT com" par Khat likh sakte haiN (aur likhte rahe haiN! :)
Thanks for the clarification. I didn't realize this when I was simply
doing a reply-to :)
cheers,
rosh
UVR
Zafar saahib:
maiN aap kaa shukrguzaar hooN k aap ne ek hi post meN tamaam
ash'aar darj kar diye. ek do jagah aap se is zimn meN sawaal
karne the, so 'arz kartaa hooN
Zafar wrote at 1/17/2005 9:40 AM US-Pacific:
>
> faqeeraana aa'ye sadaa kar chale
> k miyaaN Khush raho ham du'aa kar chale
>
> [ba'az nusKhoN meN doosre misre ke shuru' meN "k" naheeN hai, lekin
> bazaahar yehee matn durust ma'aloom hotaa hai]
"bazaahar yahi matn durust ma'aloom hotaa hai" ya'ani che?
huzoor, misr'e ke shuru' meN lafz 'k' ke aane se yeh behr
se Khaarij ho jaataa hai, to phir yeh matn durust kyoNkar
huaa? Khudaa-e-suKhan se to kam az kam aisi kotaahi ki
ummeed naheeN kee jaa sakti, haaN, yeh ain mumkin hai k
kisi kam-fehm "saahib-e-fan" ne kulliyaat-e-Meer shaa'e
hone se pehle is sh'er meN 'k' joR diyaa ho. Gharaz k
is sh'er kii saheeh shakl yahii hai --
faqeeraana aaye sadaa kar chale
miyaaN Khush raho ham du'aa kar chale
> jo tujh bin na jeene ko kehte the ham
> so is ehd ko ab vafaa kar chale
>
> shifaa apnee taqdeer hee meN na thee
> k maqdoor tak to davaa kar chale
>
> vo kyaa cheez hai aah jis ke li'ye
> har ik cheez se dil uThaa kar chale
>
> paRe aise asbaab paayaan e kaar
> k naachaar yooN jee jalaa kar chale*
>
> ko'yee naa-umeedana karte nigaah
> so tum ham se moonh bhee chhupaa kar chale
>
> bahut aarzoo thee galee kee tiree
> so yaaN se lahoo meN nahaa kar chale
>
> dikhaa'yee di'ye yooN k bai-Khud kiyaa
> hameN aap se bhee judaa kar chale
>
> jabeeN sijda karte hee karte ghisee*
> haq e bandagee ham adaa kar chale
>
> *ba'az nusKhoN meN "ga'yee" hai
>
> parishtish kee yaaN tak k ai but tujhe
> nazar meN sabhoN kee Khudaa kar chale
>
> jhaRe jis tarah* phool gul-ban se yooN
> chaman meN jahaaN ke ham aa kar chale
>
> ba'az nusKhoN meN "tarah" ke ba-jaa'ye "rang" hai
Hmm. yahaaN bhi wahi behr kaa chakkar ghus aayaa. agar
"tarah" ko "rang" se 'simply replace' kar diyaa jaaye, to
yeh sh'er behr se Khaarij ho jaayega. kaheeN yeh sh'er
asl meN yooN to naheeN --
jhaRe phool jis tarah gul-ban se yooN
chaman meN jahaaN ke ham aa kar chale
sh'er ke is "version" meN 'tarah' ko 'rang' se "in situ"
badalaa jaa saktaa hai.
> na dekhaa Gham e daustaaN shukr hai
> hameeN daaGh apnaa dikhaa kar chale
>
> ga'yee umr dar band e fikr e Ghazal
> so ye kaam aisaa baRaa kar chale
>
> kaheN kyaa jo poochhe ko'yee ham se Mir
> jahaaN meN tum aa'ye the kyaa kar chale
>
> ---
>
> Roshan jee:
>
> "paabagil.." aik "dummy" email id hai jo maiN "spam" se bachne ke li'ye
> istemaal kartaa hooN. aap mujhe mere puraane pate "zafar AT eurdubazaar
> DOT com" par Khat likh sakte haiN (aur likhte rahe haiN! :)
> aadaab arz hai,
NOW you tell us! (mere bhi kuchh Khat is address se lauT aaye haiN:
silly me, never thought to try your other address!)
-UVR.
Zafar
> > faqeeraana aa'ye sadaa kar chale
> > k miyaaN Khush raho ham du'aa kar chale
> >
> > [ba'az nusKhoN meN doosre misre ke shuru' meN "k" naheeN hai, lekin
> > bazaahar yehee matn durust ma'aloom hotaa hai]
>
> "bazaahar yahi matn durust ma'aloom hotaa hai" ya'ani che?
> huzoor, misr'e ke shuru' meN lafz 'k' ke aane se yeh behr
> se Khaarij ho jaataa hai, to phir yeh matn durust kyoNkar
> huaa? Khudaa-e-suKhan se to kam az kam aisi kotaahi ki
> ummeed naheeN kee jaa sakti, haaN, yeh ain mumkin hai k
> kisi kam-fehm "saahib-e-fan" ne kulliyaat-e-Meer shaa'e
> hone se pehle is sh'er meN 'k' joR diyaa ho. Gharaz k
> is sh'er kii saheeh shakl yahii hai --
>
> faqeeraana aaye sadaa kar chale
> miyaaN Khush raho ham du'aa kar chale
UVR jee: maanaa k ham aap kee tarah "behr e urooz" ke shinaavar naheeN
haiN, par itnaa to ham bhee jaan hee lete haiN k she'er vazn meN hai
yaa naheeN (typo kee baat doosree hai). Khair, agar maiN aap kee jagah
hotaa to sochtaa k aaKhir yooN likhaa hai to ko'yee vajh zaroor ho gee.
na'eeN? chali'ye, isee bahaane aap kee nazar meN apnee "rating" to
ma'aloom ho ga'yee :)
mahaaraaj e man: aap ko ye ma'aloom naheeN hai k Mir aksar "miyaaN" ko
bar vazn e *fa'* (weight 2) baandhte haiN, na k bar vazn e *fe'el*
(weight 1-2). Mir ne kuchh naheeN to pachaas martaba aisaa kiyaa ho
gaa. deevaan e duvam kee aik Ghazal dekhi'ye jis meN Mir ne *23* baar
miyaaN ko bar vazn e fa' baandhaa hai
matla' e saanee
qand kaa kaun is qadar maa'il hai "miyaaN"
jo hai un honToN hee kaa qaa'il hai "miyaaN"
maqta'
kee ziyaarat Mir kee ham ne bhee kal
laa-ubaalee saa hai par kaamil hai "miyaaN"
(Mir ke doosre davaaveen meN isee radeef -- aur vazn -- meN aur
GhazaleN bhee mil jaa'yeN gee):
> > "paabagil.." aik "dummy" email id hai jo maiN "spam" se bachne ke
li'ye
> > istemaal kartaa hooN. aap mujhe mere puraane pate "zafar AT
eurdubazaar
> > DOT com" par Khat likh sakte haiN (aur likhte rahe haiN! :)
> > aadaab arz hai,
>
> NOW you tell us! (mere bhi kuchh Khat is address se lauT aaye haiN:
> silly me, never thought to try your other address!)
>
> -UVR.
maiN saKht hairaan huvaa hooN k aap har do hazraat (jin se kaafee
Kitaabat rahee hai) mere asl pate kee ba-jaa'yee kisee aur pate par
Khat likhne kee koshish karte rahe haiN. yaa bul-'ajab!
Zafar