Hi, Thanks for posting this beautiful ghazal. I guess the 4th--7th shers are sung by Lata in the song. Is there a full version of it too? I like it immensely(I guess because the tune is touching and sung excellently by Lata), but not sure about the meanings. Request you to post the meanings too.
neo wrote: > So beautifully sung by none other than Lata mangeshkar in bazar movie. > So many times I have heard this song, but still whenever I listen this > song, I feel strange nervous infinite peace in my mind.
> So let us refresh us with this memorable ghazal by Meer Taqi Meer..
Thanks for the posting neo.
For those who are interested, look up message id 378DEAED.C8383...@ececs.uc.edu using google's advanced search. It should point you to a message thread from some years ago which deals with this very Ghazal. You will be able to peek at a couple of aSh`Ar in addition to what neo has already posted today.
Oops. I didn't realize that Google would 'censor' strings that look like email ids. The message-id to look for is "378DEAED.C8383680" followed by "@ececs.uc.edu". Alternatively, search for the subject "Help with a poem".
This Ghazal has 13 ash'aar (and not 9, as appears from your post). What's more, I have an "unpublished" she'er of this Ghazal as well, i.e., one that is not included in any kulliyaat.
> This Ghazal has 13 ash'aar (and not 9, as appears from your post). > What's more, I have an "unpublished" she'er of this Ghazal as well, > i.e., one that is not included in any kulliyaat.
Why tempt the already tempted, Zafar saahib. Please post the remaining ash'aar of the Ghazal.
> This Ghazal has 13 ash'aar (and not 9, as appears from your post). > What's more, I have an "unpublished" she'er of this Ghazal as well, > i.e., one that is not included in any kulliyaat.
In 1999 when this Ghazal was discussed, the following additional aSh`Ar 'came to light':
na dEkHA Gham-E dOstA.n Shukr haE hamI.n dAGh apnA dikHA kar ChalE
ShifA apnI taqdIr hI mE.n na thI keH maqdUr tak tO davA kar ChalE [keH maqdUr bHar tO davA kar ChalE?]
voH kyA ChIz tHI Ah jis kE li'E har ik ChIz sE dil uTHA kar ChalE
I hazard to guess that these are among the 13 aSh`Ar that you mentioned. That still leaves us with 2 missing aSh`Ar!
I second UVR's request - please post those 'hidden gems' at your earliest convenience.
eagerly, rosh -- P.S.: My replies to paabagil at hotmail dot com are bouncing. An over-full mailbox mebbe? Just thought I'll let you know. ====== Action: failed Diagnostic-Code: smtp;550 Requested action not taken: mailbox unavailable (636857533:182:0) ====== -- मेरा नाम है गोगो ! आँखेँ निकाल के गोटियाँ खेलूगा, गोटियाँ ! - गोगो (शक्ती कपूर) [अदाज़ अपना अपना]
> Why tempt the already tempted, Zafar saahib. Please post the > remaining ash'aar of the Ghazal.
> Expectantly yours,
Your Expectancy!
aap ke shu'ala e ishtiyaaq ko havaa denaa maqsood naheeN thaa, bas maiN hee apnee kitaaboN se thoRaa door thaa. Khair, ALUP ke record ke li'ye pooree Ghazal haazir hai:
faqeeraana aa'ye sadaa kar chale k miyaaN Khush raho ham du'aa kar chale
[ba'az nusKhoN meN doosre misre ke shuru' meN "k" naheeN hai, lekin bazaahar yehee matn durust ma'aloom hotaa hai]
jo tujh bin na jeene ko kehte the ham so is ehd ko ab vafaa kar chale
shifaa apnee taqdeer hee meN na thee k maqdoor tak to davaa kar chale
vo kyaa cheez hai aah jis ke li'ye har ik cheez se dil uThaa kar chale
paRe aise asbaab paayaan e kaar k naachaar yooN jee jalaa kar chale*
*yehee vo "Ghair-matboo'a" she'er hai jis kaa maiN zikr kar rahaa thaa. bas aik tas'heeh farmaa leeji'ye: chand maah pehle Bharat se Mir kee aik kulliyaat shaa'e huvee hai jis meN she'er e haazaa maujood hai. is ittilaa' ke li'ye maiN aik puraane ALUPer kaa mamnoon hooN.
ko'yee naa-umeedana karte nigaah so tum ham se moonh bhee chhupaa kar chale
bahut aarzoo thee galee kee tiree so yaaN se lahoo meN nahaa kar chale
dikhaa'yee di'ye yooN k bai-Khud kiyaa hameN aap se bhee judaa kar chale
jabeeN sijda karte hee karte ghisee* haq e bandagee ham adaa kar chale
*ba'az nusKhoN meN "ga'yee" hai
parishtish kee yaaN tak k ai but tujhe nazar meN sabhoN kee Khudaa kar chale
jhaRe jis tarah* phool gul-ban se yooN chaman meN jahaaN ke ham aa kar chale
ba'az nusKhoN meN "tarah" ke ba-jaa'ye "rang" hai
na dekhaa Gham e daustaaN shukr hai hameeN daaGh apnaa dikhaa kar chale
ga'yee umr dar band e fikr e Ghazal so ye kaam aisaa baRaa kar chale
kaheN kyaa jo poochhe ko'yee ham se Mir jahaaN meN tum aa'ye the kyaa kar chale
---
Roshan jee:
"paabagil.." aik "dummy" email id hai jo maiN "spam" se bachne ke li'ye istemaal kartaa hooN. aap mujhe mere puraane pate "zafar AT eurdubazaar DOT com" par Khat likh sakte haiN (aur likhte rahe haiN! :) aadaab arz hai,
> faqeeraana aa'ye sadaa kar chale > k miyaaN Khush raho ham du'aa kar chale
> [ba'az nusKhoN meN doosre misre ke shuru' meN "k" naheeN hai, lekin > bazaahar yehee matn durust ma'aloom hotaa hai]
But, Zafar Sb., how does one reconcile/justify the metrical error that this introduces?
Also, I'm trying, but I fail to see the real need for the "k". With the "k", the reading of the She`r seems a tad convoluted, doesn't it? Mebbe it is just me ...
> "paabagil.." aik "dummy" email id hai jo maiN "spam" se bachne ke li'ye > istemaal kartaa hooN. aap mujhe mere puraane pate "zafar AT eurdubazaar > DOT com" par Khat likh sakte haiN (aur likhte rahe haiN! :)
Thanks for the clarification. I didn't realize this when I was simply doing a reply-to :)
maiN aap kaa shukrguzaar hooN k aap ne ek hi post meN tamaam ash'aar darj kar diye. ek do jagah aap se is zimn meN sawaal karne the, so 'arz kartaa hooN
Zafar wrote at 1/17/2005 9:40 AM US-Pacific:
> faqeeraana aa'ye sadaa kar chale > k miyaaN Khush raho ham du'aa kar chale
> [ba'az nusKhoN meN doosre misre ke shuru' meN "k" naheeN hai, lekin > bazaahar yehee matn durust ma'aloom hotaa hai]
"bazaahar yahi matn durust ma'aloom hotaa hai" ya'ani che? huzoor, misr'e ke shuru' meN lafz 'k' ke aane se yeh behr se Khaarij ho jaataa hai, to phir yeh matn durust kyoNkar huaa? Khudaa-e-suKhan se to kam az kam aisi kotaahi ki ummeed naheeN kee jaa sakti, haaN, yeh ain mumkin hai k kisi kam-fehm "saahib-e-fan" ne kulliyaat-e-Meer shaa'e hone se pehle is sh'er meN 'k' joR diyaa ho. Gharaz k is sh'er kii saheeh shakl yahii hai --
faqeeraana aaye sadaa kar chale miyaaN Khush raho ham du'aa kar chale
> jo tujh bin na jeene ko kehte the ham > so is ehd ko ab vafaa kar chale
> shifaa apnee taqdeer hee meN na thee > k maqdoor tak to davaa kar chale
> vo kyaa cheez hai aah jis ke li'ye > har ik cheez se dil uThaa kar chale
> paRe aise asbaab paayaan e kaar > k naachaar yooN jee jalaa kar chale*
> ko'yee naa-umeedana karte nigaah > so tum ham se moonh bhee chhupaa kar chale
> bahut aarzoo thee galee kee tiree > so yaaN se lahoo meN nahaa kar chale
> dikhaa'yee di'ye yooN k bai-Khud kiyaa > hameN aap se bhee judaa kar chale
> jabeeN sijda karte hee karte ghisee* > haq e bandagee ham adaa kar chale
> *ba'az nusKhoN meN "ga'yee" hai
> parishtish kee yaaN tak k ai but tujhe > nazar meN sabhoN kee Khudaa kar chale
> jhaRe jis tarah* phool gul-ban se yooN > chaman meN jahaaN ke ham aa kar chale
> ba'az nusKhoN meN "tarah" ke ba-jaa'ye "rang" hai
Hmm. yahaaN bhi wahi behr kaa chakkar ghus aayaa. agar "tarah" ko "rang" se 'simply replace' kar diyaa jaaye, to yeh sh'er behr se Khaarij ho jaayega. kaheeN yeh sh'er asl meN yooN to naheeN --
jhaRe phool jis tarah gul-ban se yooN chaman meN jahaaN ke ham aa kar chale
sh'er ke is "version" meN 'tarah' ko 'rang' se "in situ" badalaa jaa saktaa hai.
> na dekhaa Gham e daustaaN shukr hai > hameeN daaGh apnaa dikhaa kar chale
> ga'yee umr dar band e fikr e Ghazal > so ye kaam aisaa baRaa kar chale
> kaheN kyaa jo poochhe ko'yee ham se Mir > jahaaN meN tum aa'ye the kyaa kar chale
> ---
> Roshan jee:
> "paabagil.." aik "dummy" email id hai jo maiN "spam" se bachne ke li'ye > istemaal kartaa hooN. aap mujhe mere puraane pate "zafar AT eurdubazaar > DOT com" par Khat likh sakte haiN (aur likhte rahe haiN! :) > aadaab arz hai,
NOW you tell us! (mere bhi kuchh Khat is address se lauT aaye haiN: silly me, never thought to try your other address!)
UVR wrote: > > faqeeraana aa'ye sadaa kar chale > > k miyaaN Khush raho ham du'aa kar chale
> > [ba'az nusKhoN meN doosre misre ke shuru' meN "k" naheeN hai, lekin > > bazaahar yehee matn durust ma'aloom hotaa hai]
> "bazaahar yahi matn durust ma'aloom hotaa hai" ya'ani che? > huzoor, misr'e ke shuru' meN lafz 'k' ke aane se yeh behr > se Khaarij ho jaataa hai, to phir yeh matn durust kyoNkar > huaa? Khudaa-e-suKhan se to kam az kam aisi kotaahi ki > ummeed naheeN kee jaa sakti, haaN, yeh ain mumkin hai k > kisi kam-fehm "saahib-e-fan" ne kulliyaat-e-Meer shaa'e > hone se pehle is sh'er meN 'k' joR diyaa ho. Gharaz k > is sh'er kii saheeh shakl yahii hai --
> faqeeraana aaye sadaa kar chale > miyaaN Khush raho ham du'aa kar chale
UVR jee: maanaa k ham aap kee tarah "behr e urooz" ke shinaavar naheeN haiN, par itnaa to ham bhee jaan hee lete haiN k she'er vazn meN hai yaa naheeN (typo kee baat doosree hai). Khair, agar maiN aap kee jagah hotaa to sochtaa k aaKhir yooN likhaa hai to ko'yee vajh zaroor ho gee. na'eeN? chali'ye, isee bahaane aap kee nazar meN apnee "rating" to ma'aloom ho ga'yee :)
mahaaraaj e man: aap ko ye ma'aloom naheeN hai k Mir aksar "miyaaN" ko bar vazn e *fa'* (weight 2) baandhte haiN, na k bar vazn e *fe'el* (weight 1-2). Mir ne kuchh naheeN to pachaas martaba aisaa kiyaa ho gaa. deevaan e duvam kee aik Ghazal dekhi'ye jis meN Mir ne *23* baar miyaaN ko bar vazn e fa' baandhaa hai
matla' e saanee qand kaa kaun is qadar maa'il hai "miyaaN" jo hai un honToN hee kaa qaa'il hai "miyaaN"
maqta' kee ziyaarat Mir kee ham ne bhee kal laa-ubaalee saa hai par kaamil hai "miyaaN"
(Mir ke doosre davaaveen meN isee radeef -- aur vazn -- meN aur GhazaleN bhee mil jaa'yeN gee):
> > "paabagil.." aik "dummy" email id hai jo maiN "spam" se bachne ke li'ye > > istemaal kartaa hooN. aap mujhe mere puraane pate "zafar AT eurdubazaar > > DOT com" par Khat likh sakte haiN (aur likhte rahe haiN! :) > > aadaab arz hai,
> NOW you tell us! (mere bhi kuchh Khat is address se lauT aaye haiN: > silly me, never thought to try your other address!)
> -UVR.
maiN saKht hairaan huvaa hooN k aap har do hazraat (jin se kaafee Kitaabat rahee hai) mere asl pate kee ba-jaa'yee kisee aur pate par Khat likhne kee koshish karte rahe haiN. yaa bul-'ajab!
