WotD: Oscitation

[Johannes Patruus]

http://www.oed.com/viewdictionaryentry:showfullentry/true?t:ac=Entry/132959

Patruus

[Evertjan.]

Johannes Patruus wrote on 12 sep 2012 in alt.language.latin:

>
> http://www.oed.com/viewdictionaryentry:showfullentry/true?t:ac=Entry/13
> 2959

http://www.oed.com/view/Entry/132959

Both seem only to be available with a OED
or a public library account number.

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"1547 Ossitacio is the latyn worde... In englysh it is named ossitacion
yeanynge or gapynge."

Dutch: "gapen".

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Another nice os- word from os, oris [not from os, ossis]:

"1706 Osculum, a little Mouth; also a Kiss."

--
Evertjan.
The Netherlands.
(Please change the x'es to dots in my emailaddress)

[Johannes Patruus]

On 13/09/2012 08:37, Evertjan. wrote:
> Johannes Patruus wrote on 12 sep 2012 in alt.language.latin:
>
>>
>> http://www.oed.com/viewdictionaryentry:showfullentry/true?t:ac=Entry/13
>> 2959
>
> http://www.oed.com/view/Entry/132959
>
> Both seem only to be available with a OED
> or a public library account number.

Each "Word of the Day" is freely viewable only on the Day of which it is
the Word, which, for oscitation, on the day of writing this, is yesterday.

Today's today's word is bereft of Latin etymology -
http://www.oed.com/view/Entry/257943

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Patruus

[John W Kennedy]

On 2012-09-13 08:38:08 +0000, Johannes Patruus said:

> On 13/09/2012 08:37, Evertjan. wrote:
>> Johannes Patruus wrote on 12 sep 2012 in alt.language.latin:
>>
>>>
>>> http://www.oed.com/viewdictionaryentry:showfullentry/true?t:ac=Entry/13
>>> 2959
>>
>> http://www.oed.com/view/Entry/132959
>>
>> Both seem only to be available with a OED
>> or a public library account number.
>
> Each "Word of the Day" is freely viewable only on the Day of which it
> is the Word, which, for oscitation, on the day of writing this, is
> yesterday.
>
> Today's today's word is bereft of Latin etymology -
> http://www.oed.com/view/Entry/257943
>
> WotD can be subscribed to via RSS or email (see OED home page).

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[Ed Cryer]

Johannes Patruus wrote:
> On 13/09/2012 08:37, Evertjan. wrote:
>> Johannes Patruus wrote on 12 sep 2012 in alt.language.latin:
>>
>>>
>>> http://www.oed.com/viewdictionaryentry:showfullentry/true?t:ac=Entry/13
>>> 2959
>>
>> http://www.oed.com/view/Entry/132959
>>
>> Both seem only to be available with a OED
>> or a public library account number.
>
> Each "Word of the Day" is freely viewable only on the Day of which it is
> the Word, which, for oscitation, on the day of writing this, is yesterday.
>
> Today's today's word is bereft of Latin etymology -
> http://www.oed.com/view/Entry/257943
>

Foaf indeed!

What does it take to get a word in the OED? Something like a formal
application together with a couple of citations in respectable broadsheets?
It reminds me of the Catholic Church searching high and low to get
Thomas Aquinas into sainthood. You needed two attested miracles. The
first was easy enough; the usual opening up of the coffin 6 months post
eius mortem, and a sweet smell coming out. It took ages to get the
second until some bright spark remembered the fishes. When Thomas had
been lying ill someone asked him what he wanted to eat, and he replied
"some fresh herrings". They had none, but lo! a knock came on the door
and it was a pedlar selling salted fish. They asked him to open his
baskets and one was full of herrings.

Such events call for a new word. I suggest "glumberstrild". It sounds
about right for things like that. And if we can get it printed as such
in The Times and The New York Times we might be in with a chance. After
which, in years to come, some bright etymologist might find an origin
for it; perhaps an acronym, or perhaps taken from some Scandinavian
language.

Ed

Per totum hunc mundum nil inventum est argutius versutiusque homine.

[John W Kennedy]

On 2012-09-13 16:48:21 +0000, Ed Cryer said:

> Johannes Patruus wrote:
>> On 13/09/2012 08:37, Evertjan. wrote:
>>> Johannes Patruus wrote on 12 sep 2012 in alt.language.latin:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://www.oed.com/viewdictionaryentry:showfullentry/true?t:ac=Entry/13
>>>> 2959
>>>
>>> http://www.oed.com/view/Entry/132959
>>>
>>> Both seem only to be available with a OED
>>> or a public library account number.
>>
>> Each "Word of the Day" is freely viewable only on the Day of which it is
>> the Word, which, for oscitation, on the day of writing this, is yesterday.
>>
>> Today's today's word is bereft of Latin etymology -
>> http://www.oed.com/view/Entry/257943
>>
>
> Foaf indeed!
>
> What does it take to get a word in the OED? Something like a formal
> application together with a couple of citations in respectable
> broadsheets?

No, just the citations. If people use a word in writing, and it's
clearly not a case of a foreign word drafted for temporary ad-hoc
service, then it goes in. (Which reminds me that I've got to find a
source for the word "nap" in the theatrical sense, which the OED
incorrectly thinks to be obsolete.)

> It reminds me of the Catholic Church searching high and low to get
> Thomas Aquinas into sainthood. You needed two attested miracles. The
> first was easy enough; the usual opening up of the coffin 6 months post
> eius mortem, and a sweet smell coming out. It took ages to get the
> second until some bright spark remembered the fishes. When Thomas had
> been lying ill someone asked him what he wanted to eat, and he replied
> "some fresh herrings". They had none, but lo! a knock came on the door
> and it was a pedlar selling salted fish. They asked him to open his
> baskets and one was full of herrings.

Although both of these are in the record, a good many other miracles of
the more ordinary kind were introduced in the hearing.

--
John W Kennedy
"There are those who argue that everything breaks even in this old dump
of a world of ours. I suppose these ginks who argue that way hold that
because the rich man gets ice in the summer and the poor man gets it in
the winter things are breaking even for both. Maybe so, but I'll swear
I can't see it that way."
-- The last words of Bat Masterson

[John Briggs]

On 13/09/2012 18:23, John W Kennedy wrote:
> On 2012-09-13 16:48:21 +0000, Ed Cryer said:
>>
>> What does it take to get a word in the OED? Something like a formal
>> application together with a couple of citations in respectable
>> broadsheets?
>
> No, just the citations. If people use a word in writing, and it's
> clearly not a case of a foreign word drafted for temporary ad-hoc
> service, then it goes in. (Which reminds me that I've got to find a
> source for the word "nap" in the theatrical sense, which the OED
> incorrectly thinks to be obsolete.)

I've been trying to get them to change the definition of "luthier" which
they give as "a maker of lutes"! Their own citations demonstrate that it
should be "a maker of stringed instruments, esp. the lute, violin and
guitar families."
--
John Briggs

[Johannes Patruus]

On 13/09/2012 17:48, Ed Cryer wrote:

> What does it take to get a word in the OED? Something like a formal
> application together with a couple of citations in respectable broadsheets?

To include or not to include? That is the lexicographer's dilemma -
http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=FrhUXSnAua4C&pg=PA152

Patruus

[John W Kennedy]

I quite agree. They themselves also give the broader definition in
their modern dictionaries. Perhaps the OED team just isn't working on L
right now. I think I read somewhere that they decided to start this
cycle with M, go on to Z, and then pick up again at A.

(I've been trying for years to get them to accept that "gay" in
Coward's "Green Carnation" song means just what you think it does.)

--
John W Kennedy
"Never try to take over the international economy based on a radical
feminist agenda if you're not sure your leader isn't a transvestite."
-- David Misch: "She-Spies", "While You Were Out"