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 More options Apr 14 2012, 11:56 am
Newsgroups: alt.astronomy, misc.education.science, uk.media.newspapers, alt.news-media, alt.journalism
From: Brad Guth <bradg...@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2012 08:56:23 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sat, Apr 14 2012 11:56 am
Subject: Re: Venus, the forbidden planet (3.0) / Brad Guth
I've never stipulated "proof positive" about intelligent other life
existing/coexisting on Venus, although at least thus far we have
nothing of any known forms of natural geology that seems to fit the
whole picture or community of what "Guth Venus" seems to represent, as
offering by far the most interesting and complex collection of
geometrical shapes that seem as though arranged in the most community
and intelligent infrastructure like rational plan, as situated in a
very mountainous terrain none the less.

Planets, moons, asteroids and meteors have their metals, because
that’s what makes for their crust, and all of those nifty kinds of
rocks and their otherwise solidified composition of complex elements,
instead of their being icy, fluids or gaseous.

The extremely tall Mars monolith should be another good example of a
protruding rock of somewhat unusual formation or perhaps conceivable
as an artificial placement.
 http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/47024373/ns/technology_and_science-science/

 The Phobos monolith offers a similar item that’s quite unusual:
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phobos_monolith

 The vast majority of terrestrial monoliths, especially those of any
significantly rectangular or geometric odd form, have been
intentionally created and placed, whereas few if any natural monoliths
are uniform enough to qualify as being so well shaped as rectangulars
and protruding quite as perpendicular as those identified on Mars and
Phobos.  Most of our terrestrial monoliths are not isolated, whereas
instead there’s a nearby collection of natural formations with similar
monolithic configurations to pick from.  Of course, visual imaging
isn’t nearly as reliable or image pixel truth-worthy as radar imaging,
and the low solar angle of below 45 degrees can become a distraction
or illusion that can fool the best human interpretation (although
shadows are also very telling).

Mainstream conditional physics:
Remember that our resident FUD-master (Hagar) and his fellow redneck
ZNRs are supposedly qualified image interpreters, as having picked out
all sorts of those Muslim WMD from our best spy camera imaging that
offered at least ten fold better resolution than anything obtained of
Mars or Phobos.  So, perhaps this is clearly another subjective
science of deductive observationology that our Hagar still isn’t any
better qualified.  Never the less, Hagar accepts such images of Mars
as being of perfectly good mainstream science, and at the very same
time rejects all forms of interpreting those radar obtained images of
Venus being anything except natural hot rocks that just so happen to
look as a community of complex structures and infrastructure should.

 http://www.enchantedrockstatenaturalarea.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/...
 http://cdn.c.photoshelter.com/img-get/I0000uVz6oS8x0Y4/s/750/750/UTCR...
 http://davidinglima2.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/turret_arch.jpg
 http://www.pictures1.temehu.com/p1/Acacus-natural-arch-Forzhaga.jpg
 http://www.metrolic.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Arches-National-Pa...

 Square or rectangular need not be the only monoliths:
 http://costaricaspecialdealsonline.blogspot.com/2011/05/costa-rica-st...

 What’s entirely missing from those monoliths of Mars and Phobos is
any surrounding or community like infrastructure, or rational
logistics pertaining to any base-camp of mining or extracting
whatever.

In spite of the mainstream gauntlet that’ll automatically by default
and obfuscation will always oppose anything that’s new or improved,
perhaps yourself and others of any deductive image interpreting
expertise can try to add a little something from their very own
observationology talent to this growing list, of contributing to what
an actively thriving community of an intelligent mining operation
should look like, as if imaged from the perspective of an advanced spy
satellite, keeping in mind that the scale of such items on any given
dimension has to be worth at least 75 meters/pixel or preferably
larger 225 m/pixel in order to count, so for the most part we’re not
trying to interpret anything that’s smaller than 225 meters per
geometric dimension.

Thumbnail images, including mgn_c115s095_1.gif (225 m/pixel)
 http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/thumbnail_pages/venus_thumbnails.html
 Lava channels, Lo Shen Valles, Venus from Magellan Cycle 1
 http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/html/object_page/mgn_c115s095_1.html
 http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/hires/mgn_c115s095_1.gif
 “Guth Venus” 1:1, plus 10x resample/enlargement of the area in
question:
 https://picasaweb.google.com/bradguth/BradGuth#5630418595926178146
 https://picasaweb.google.com/bradguth/BradGuth#5629579402364691314
 Brad Guth / Blog and my Google document pages:
 http://groups.google.com/group/guth-usenet?hl=en
 http://bradguth.blogspot.com/
 http://docs.google.com/View?id=ddsdxhv_0hrm5bdfj
 http://groups.google.com/groups/search
 http://translate.google.com/#
 Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / “Guth Usenet”

On Mar 24, 4:39 pm, Brad Guth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:

> What should the natural terrain and whatever 3D plan-view site of any
> significant off-world logistics on behalf of depicting a large scale
> mining operation look like from the air, or better yet from that
> perspective of a spendy spy satellite using SAR (Synthetic Aperture
> Radar) imaging, that’s peering downward at 43 degrees and compiling a
> derivative composite image from 36 confirming scans per pixel, tend to
> look like?

> Shouldn’t there be any number of large scale structures, possibly
> including a nearby airstrip or some sort of relatively flat surface
> for shuttles or even for accommodating extremely large industrial
> airships to utilize?

> If there’s any nearby deeply eroded or lava-flow created ravine or
> natural formed canyon, shouldn’t that sort of vertically offset
> terrain be logical as to our detecting some kind of bridge?

> For their local construction purposes, shouldn’t there logically be a
> nearby geometric reformed area of a bedrock quarry site, or two or
> three?

> If having an atmospheric density worth 65+ kg/m3 buoyancy and only
> 90.5% gravity was the norm; what might a suitably commercial or
> industrial class of large airship look like?

> How and/or where upon such a toasty planet would that sort of large
> airship be parked or safely stored until use? (in other words, what
> sort of local infrastructure would be necessary for accommodating such
> an industrial mining ore/cargo hauling airship?)

> If the planet were geologically active and obviously science
> quantified as venting new atmospheric elements like crazy;  shouldn’t
> there be a few natural and possibly artificial reservoirs of fluids?

> If this were to be an actual ET or indigenous mining operation;
> wouldn’t the assortment and arrangement of such infrastructure have to
> further suggest a rational community like layout or city/town like
> configuration?

> If this were all situated within a highly mountainous terrain;
> wouldn’t this community of large geometric structures and their
> infrastructure need to look very much out of place from the random
> geology happenstance of nature, or at the very least way out of
> ordinary from anything mother or father nature could have
> accomplished?

> If the local terrain indicated as having been geologically active, and
> if there were multiple signs of substantial ongoing heavy and/or dense
> gas/vapor venting of any sort of hot and potential metallicity
> content;  as such shouldn’t a pattern of that vented outflow also be
> detected by the same SAR imaging methods?

> I’m certain if we start exploiting the full metallicity worth of our
> moon, that when viewed from Earth, amateur astronomers will be capable
> of imaging sufficient resolution to see our surface structures and
> identify their rational community like infrastructure.  Of course,
> mining the naked moon would be a very difficult and risky
> consideration (unless mostly accomplished via TBMs operating entirely
> inside of the moon), than doing Venus that’s probably considerably
> hotter inside than on the surface.

> Perhaps yourself and others can add a little something else to this
> list of what an actively thriving community of an intelligent mining
> operation should look like from an advanced spy satellite perspective,
> keeping in mind that the scale of such items has to be worth at least
> 75 meters/pixel or larger in order to count.

> Thumbnail images, including mgn_c115s095_1.gif (225 m/pixel)
>  http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/thumbnail_pages/venus_thumbnails.html
>  Lava channels, Lo Shen Valles, Venus from Magellan Cycle 1
>  http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/html/object_page/mgn_c115s095_1.html
>  http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/hires/mgn_c115s095_1.gif
>  “Guth Venus” at 1:1, then 10x resample/enlargement of the area in
> question:
>  https://picasaweb.google.com/bradguth/BradGuth#5630418595926178146
>  https://picasaweb.google.com/bradguth/BradGuth#5629579402364691314
>  Brad Guth / Blog and my Google document pages:
>  http://groups.google.com/group/guth-usenet?hl=en
>  http://bradguth.blogspot.com/
>  http://docs.google.com/View?id=ddsdxhv_0hrm5bdfj
>  http://groups.google.com/groups/search
>  http://translate.google.com/#
>  Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / “Guth Usenet”


 
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