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Carter says Palestinians being treated like animals. (This post is also on gay issues)

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Jun 28, 2009, 6:52:49 PM6/28/09
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Carter says Palestinians being treated like animals. See the June 16,
2009 article http://informationclearinghouse.info/article22842.htm

I think the reason it is unfortunately ok to treat the Palestinians
like animals is that the Jewish group is doing the attacking, and
because the US Congress is basically synonymous with this group's
goals. Not all people in this group are bad, on this point. Only the
ones whom Carter's statements make angry. And those are the only ones
I am referring to on this point.

Here are three very brief extracts from the article:

<"Tragically, the international community too often ignores the cries
for help and the citizens of Palestine are treated more like animals
than like human beings," he said.
"The starving of 1.5 million human beings of the necessities of life
-- never before in history has a large community like this been
savaged by bombs and missiles and then denied the means to repair
itself," Carter said at a UN school graduation ceremony in Gaza City.>

<"My primary feeling today is one of grief and despair and an element
of anger when I see the destruction perpetrated against innocent
people," Carter said as he toured the impoverished territory.>

<Israel's offensive killed more than 1,400 Palestinians and left large
swathes of the coastal strip sandwiched between Israel and Egypt in
ruins. Thirteen Israelis also died in the conflict.>


Proportionately this would be like 280,000 Americans being killed by
an Israeli army attack.

Also see
http://archive.gulfnews.com/articles/09/01/26/10278858.html (go down a
few lines and click "watch video of Gaza zoo carnage"). The video
shows Israeli soldiers' gratuitous cruelty against the animals in
Gaza/Palestinian children's zoo. (Actually the killing may not be
gratuitous. It could be psychological warfare and demoralization
against the Gaza/Palestinians.)

Let the memory of what the American Jewish people and Israeli Jewish
people have supported and done to the Palestinians not be covered up
by our newspapers - newspapers that the Israeli and American Jewish
people influence so much (and also let it not be covered up by the
silence of groups these people influence so much, like the gay group,
nor let it be covered up by the US Congress which they also influence
so much).

I post this to some gay discussion groups because they never criticize
any of Israel's interests, nor does the gay media.

There is little independence within the gay group. We gays are told
what is good. Although it is true that we can then decide how to work
for what we are told is good. But that is still not independence,
politically or intellectually.

The following list is from
http://www.davidduke.com/general/from-the-abyss-david-dukes-moscow-speech_2520.html
. (Me: you can strongly disagree with someone on some points but still
find valuable data in their writings sometimes.) I myself assume the
following list is valid - since it is stated out in the open. Duke
gives it as a list of Jewish people in important influential places in
the gay group. In the past, I truth-tested some of Duke's other data
and found it accurate. Does the following show a lot of Jewish
influence?

Larry Kramer - co-founder of "Act Up," a homosexual/AIDS activist
organization; co-founder of the Gay Men's Health Crisis
Alan Klein - co-founder of group ACT UP, co-founder of group Queer
Nation, National Communications Director and chief spokesperson for
the Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation [GLAAD]. Klein also
co-founded the successful multimedia campaign STUPIDLY.COM
Arnie Kantrowitz - co-founder of the Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against
Defamation [GLAAD].
Jonathan D. Katz - founded and chairs the Harvey Milk Institute, the
largest queer studies institute in the world. A long time queer
political activist, was a co-founder of Queer Nation, [the key San
Francisco branch].
Harvey Fierstein - film actor [Mrs. Doubtfire]; well-known gay
activist.
Mois�s Kaufman - playwright and film director [The Laramie Project].
Israel Fishman - founder of the Gay Liberation Caucus in 1970 [now
known as the Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual, and Transgendered Round Table of
the American Library Association], the world's first gay professional
organization.
Bella Abzug and Edward Koch - both Jewish - the first members of the
U.S. House of Representatives to introduce legislation banning
discrimination based on sexual orientation [1974].
Winnie Stachelberg - political director, Human Rights Campaign [HRC]
Michael S. Aronowitz, The New York Log Cabin Republicans.
Tony Kushner - gay activist; Tony and 1993 Pulitzer Prize-winning
playwright [for Angels in America, 1992].
Len Hirsch - president of the GLBT federal government employees group,
GLOBE.
Meg Moritz, Ph.D. - a Director and member of the Executive Committee
of GLAAD.
Barbara Raab - an NBC-TV producer; a "Jewish lesbian feminist
journalist, writer."
Charles Kaiser [?] - author & founding member of National Lesbian and
Gay Journalists Association [NLGJA].
David Goodstein - owner/publisher of the gay magazine The Advocate
[1975-1985]; co-founder of the National Gay Rights Lobby.
Judy Wieder - Editor-in-chief, The Advocate gay magazine.
Alison Bechdel [?] - cartoonist creator and author of the bi-weekly
comic strip "Dykes to Watch Out For."
Kevin Koffler - Editor-in-chief, Genre gay magazine.
Garrett Glaser - National Lesbian and Gay Journalists Association
[NLGJA] national board member.
Ronald Gold - reporter for Variety; a leader in the fight to overturn
the American Psychiatric Association's policy that homosexuality is an
illness.
Magnus Hirschfeld [d. 1935], early gay rights activist in Germany;
founded one of the first gay rights organizations, the Scientific
Humanitarian Committee; coined the term "transvestism"; fled Nazi
Germany.
Fred Hochberg - deputy administrator, U.S. Small Business
Administration; co-chair of the Human Rights Campaign [HRC].
Michael Berman - member, Human Rights Campaign Board of Directors.
Mitchell Gold - HRC Board Marty Lieberman - HRC BoardAndy Linsky - HRC
BoardDana Perlman - HRC BoardAbby Rubenfeld - HRC Board Andrew Tobias
- HRC Board Lara Schwartz - Senior Counsel, HRC Heather Wellman - HRC
Field Coordinator Dan Furmansky - HRC Senior Field Organizer, West
Sally Green - HRC Associate Field Director
Rick Rosendall [?] - President, Gay & Lesbian Activists Alliance of
Washington, DC.
Barney Frank - member of U.S. Congress; helped create
non-discriminatory employment policies in all U.S. federal agencies
Kerry Lobel - executive director of the National Gay and Lesbian Task
Force.
Robin Margolis, American coordinator of the Bi Women's Cultural
Alliance and author [Bisexuality: A Practical Guide].
Evan Wolfson, Senior Staff Attorney, Lambda Legal Defense and
Education Fund - and - the executive director of Freedom to Marry.
Jennifer Einhorn - Communications Director, Gay & Lesbian Alliance
Against Defamation [GLAAD] Nancy Alpert [?] - Treasurer, GLAAD Judy
Gluckstern - Board of Directors, GLAAD.Stephen M. Jacoby - Board of
Directors, GLAAD.Matt Riklin - Board, GLAADCarol Rosenfeld - Board,
GLAAD.William Weinberger - Board, GLAAD Tanya Wexler - Board, GLAAD.
David Huebner - GLAAD Counsel.
Richard Goldstein - Village Voice writer on gay culture and politics
Ron Schlittler - Director of Field & Policy, Parents and Friends of
Lesbians and Gays [PFLAG].
Craig Ziskin - Deputy Director of Development, PFLAG.
Debra Weill - Senior Field & Policy Coordinator, PFLAG.
Dody Goldstein - Board of Directors, PFLAG.
David Horowitz - Board of Directors, PFLAG.
Shawn Frank - Board of Directors, PFLAG.
Leon Weinstein - Chair, Nominating Committee, PFLAG.
Kate Kendell [?], National Center for Lesbian Rights.
Gayle Rubin - lesbian author/activist.
Hilary Rosen - a founding member of the Gay and Lesbian Victory Fund;
former board co-chair of the Human Rights Campaign.
Roz Richter, American attorney and activist.
Bob Kunst - long-time activist in gay and Jewish causes.
"Gay, Lesbian & Straight Education Network" [GLSEN]. Board co-chairs:
Marty Seldman, president
"National Gay & Lesbian Task Force" [NGLTF]. Board co-chairs: �..
Rachel Rosen in Santa Fe, N.M Dave Fleischer - Director of Training
[political training], NGLTF. Craig Hoffman - Board of Directors,
NGLTF. Beth Zemsky - Board, NGLTF. Marsha C. Botzer - Treasurer,
NGLTF. Jeff Levi - first, Levi was NGTF's lobbyist, early 1980s [NGTF
became NGLTF in 1985]. Later, he was NGLTF executive director.
Bill Rubenstein, J.D. '86, developed the ACLU Lesbian and Gay Rights
Project
Martin Duberman - author/historian; founded the Center for Lesbian and
Gay Studies at the City University of New York.
Ben Schatz '81, J.D. '85, is executive director of the Gay and Lesbian
Medical Foundation.
Kevin Schaub, American; Executive Director and Dean of the Harvey Milk
Institute in San Francisco, the world's largest center for queer
studies.
Sarah Schulman [1958- ], American playwright, novelist, and activist
[one of the founders of the Lesbian Avengers, a direct-action lesbian
rights organization].
Susan Spielman - principal/head of Common Ground, an
education/consulting firm specializing in workplace sexual orientation
education; her company has worked with hundreds of U.S. organizations,
helping them to implement domestic partner benefits plans; co-author
of the book Straight Talk About Gays in the Workplace.
Gertrude Stein - wrote the first openly lesbian novel, Q.E.D., in
1903, but it was only published posthumously in 1950.
Rikki Streicher (1925-1994), American activist and businesswoman.
Michael Goff - founded Out magazine in 1992.
Paulette Goodman - founder of local chapter [Washington D.C.] of PFLAG
and served as President of the National PFLAG organization from
1988-1992.
Jeffrey Newman, American, president and COO of the Gay Financial
Network; president and CEO of out.com.
Jim Levin - New York gay historian.
Barrett Brick - GLAA [Gay and Lesbian Activists Alliance] Treasurer.
Robin Tyler - American comedian [born Arlene Chernick] who was the
first openly gay comic in North America; Tyler is also an activist who
was the stage producer for the first three gay marches on Washington
and the national protest coordinator for the "Stop Dr. Laura"
campaign; she produces women's comedy and music festivals, and
operates a lesbian travel-tour company.
Dr. Bruce Voeller [1935?-1994] [?] American gay rights activist,
molecular biologist, physiologist, and AIDS researcher (pioneer in the
use of nonoxynol-9 as a spermicide); cofounder and first executive
director of the National Gay Task Force; creator of the Mariposa
Foundation [an AIDS prevention research organization].
Mark Elderkin [?] - co-founded Gay.com.
Leroy Aarons - American professor, journalist, and founder of the
National Gay and Lesbian Journalists Association (1990).
Dr. Donald I. Abrams - American physician, HIV expert, medical
marijuana researcher, and past president of the Gay and Lesbian
Medical Association.
Johnny Abush (1952-2000) - [Canadian]; archivist of the International
Jewish GBLT Archives.
Roberta Achtenberg [1950- ]; civil rights lawyer and federal official;
appointed as Assistant Secretary for Fair Housing and Equal
Opportunity by President Bill Clinton in 1993.
Miriam Ben-Shalom [1948- ], American Army Reserves drill sergeant and
gay activist; in 1986 she won a ten-year legal battle with the
Reserves when a court ordered her reinstatement; founder of the Gay,
Lesbian, and Bisexual Veterans Association [GLBVA] in 1990, serving as
its first president.
Larry Brinkin, American gay activist who brought the first domestic
partnership lawsuit [against Southern Pacific Railroad, 1982].
Rob Eichberg, American psychologist, co-creator of National Coming Out
Day [October 11th].
Scott Evertz, American; in April 2001, President Bush appointed him to
serve as the Director of the White House Office of National AIDS
Policy [ONAP].
Gene Falk [?, Jewish name], American business executive; Senior Vice
President of the Showtime Digital Media Group; part of the team that
launched and marketed the U.S. TV series Queer as Folk; Chair of the
Board of Directors of the Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation
[GLAAD].
Surina Kahn - American lesbian activist.
Larry Kessler - founding director in 1983 of the AIDS Action Committee
of Massachusetts, the largest AIDS support organization in New
England.
Kathy Levinson - American investor and philanthropist; serves on the
board of PlanetOut; also on NGLTF Board of Directors.
Judith Light - actress, activist for gay causes.
David Mixner - gay activist, political consultant; co-founder of the
Municipal Elections Committee of Los Angeles [MECLA], a group of
wealthy gays and lesbians who became influential in local politics;
president Bill Clinton's Special Liaison to the Gay-Lesbian Community.
Dan Savage - American author of gay-themed books [The Kid: What
Happened After My Boyfriend and I Decided to Go Get Pregnant; Skipping
Towards Gomorrah: The Seven Deadly Sins and the Pursuit of Happiness
in America] and gay-themed- sex-advice columnist [Savage Love].
Susan Schuman, American executive vice-president and general manager
of the Planet Out gay and lesbian online service.
Scott Seomin, American entertainment media coordinator for the Gay &
Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation [GLAAD].
Jason Serinus [Jay Guy Nassberg] - founder and coordinator of the
Lavender Healing Network; a former gay activist with the New York
chapter of the Gay Liberation Front.
David Sine [?] - American CEO of C1TV, the first U.S. gay and lesbian
cable TV network.
Rex Wockner - longtime gay, American journalist who has reported news
for the gay press since 1985.
Jack Fritscher - became Editor in Chief of Drummer gay magazine
[1977].
Leslie Feinberg [1949- ], American trade unionist, transgender
activist and author [Transgender Warriors: Making History from Joan of
Arc to RuPaul].
Allen Ginsberg - late Jewish poet and leading member of North American
Man Boy Love Association

And the Jewish people in American are only about two percent of the
population!

On top of the above, add the influence of the ADL and ACLU over the
gay group.

Generally the hard-working character of Jewish leaders, generally the
intimidation of non-Jewish people before them, generally the
blindness, and even cruelty, and maybe even some insanity, of the
Jewish people in regard to the ethnic interests of their own group.

Is it any wonder there is little independence within the gay group,
politically or intellectually?


http://www.abwtfal.com/post8.htm

B. Jackson

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Jun 29, 2009, 12:46:36 PM6/29/09
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I don't agree with Jimmy Carter on many issues, but he's 100% correct
in his view of "Israel". His book "Palestine - Peace not apartheid"
is right on the money.

Check out my blog. I write about the jewish problem:
http://immigration-globalization.blogspot.com/

wind meer

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Jul 2, 2009, 1:42:22 AM7/2/09
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Nice blog.

On one of the items on the left side, you state that about 70% of wars
are from ethnic/racial strife. Would you have some sources or lines of
evidence for that.

Shaz

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Jul 2, 2009, 10:27:30 AM7/2/09
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In alt.journalism.gay-press, B. Jackson <bjack...@yahoo.com> wrote:
: Check out my blog. I write about the jewish problem:
: http://immigration-globalization.blogspot.com/

Actually, what you do is write about your own fears of inadequacy. Thanks for letting
us know about another loser.

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