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Len Colby
Apr 29, 2012, 10:55:02 PM4/29/12
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A few hours before the murder of Martin Luther King Jr. James Earl Ray
rented a room in a flophouse with a view of Dr. King’s motel room.
Moments after the shot was fired a white man ran from near Ray’s room
and sped off in white Mustang. The next morning Ray dumped his white
Mustang in Atlanta. There were however two such cars parked on the
block. Ray and his defenders claim he drove off in his before King was
shot and that the man who fled after was an imposter. The evidence
however indicates the opposite; the ‘other’ Mustang was driven off
about 30 minutes before the assassination and the man who fled did so
in Ray’s car, and thus almost certainly was Ray himself.
At about 3 PM April 4, 1968 the day Martin Luther King Jr. was
assassinated, escaped convict, James Earl Ray inquired about rooms at
Bessie Brewer’s rooming house on South Main St. in Memphis TN. Mrs.
Brewer first offered him room 8 but after looking inside he said he
was not interested, it had a stove and refrigerator and he did not
need cooking facilities, or so he said. She next showed him room 5B he
looked inside, said he would take it and registered under an alias.
Room 8 did not have a view of the Lorraine Motel on Mulberry St. where
Dr. King was staying, 5B did. You could only see the motel from Ray’s
room if you sat or stool right next to the wall at an acute angle to
window. The communal bathroom only a few feet down the hallway had an
almost head on view. The rooming house occupied the 2nd floors of two
separate buildings, the ground floors of which were occupied by [from
north to south] Jim’s Grill (a bar and grill), Cohn & Co. and Canipe’s
Amusements (a jukebox company that sold used 45s).
King was killed by a single rifle shot at 6:01 PM, police who happened
to be at a fire station around the corner responded quickly. Witnesses
indicated, and the coroner later confirmed, that the shot came from
the general direction of the flophouse. Moments after shot a man
carrying a long bundle ran from hallway Ray’s room was on down to Main
St., dumped the bundle in front of Canipe’s and sped off in a white
Mustang.
Read more here:
http://lies-of-the-truth-movement.blogspot.com.br/2012/04/mlk-assassination-tale-of-two-mustangs.html
rented a room in a flophouse with a view of Dr. King’s motel room.
Moments after the shot was fired a white man ran from near Ray’s room
and sped off in white Mustang. The next morning Ray dumped his white
Mustang in Atlanta. There were however two such cars parked on the
block. Ray and his defenders claim he drove off in his before King was
shot and that the man who fled after was an imposter. The evidence
however indicates the opposite; the ‘other’ Mustang was driven off
about 30 minutes before the assassination and the man who fled did so
in Ray’s car, and thus almost certainly was Ray himself.
At about 3 PM April 4, 1968 the day Martin Luther King Jr. was
assassinated, escaped convict, James Earl Ray inquired about rooms at
Bessie Brewer’s rooming house on South Main St. in Memphis TN. Mrs.
Brewer first offered him room 8 but after looking inside he said he
was not interested, it had a stove and refrigerator and he did not
need cooking facilities, or so he said. She next showed him room 5B he
looked inside, said he would take it and registered under an alias.
Room 8 did not have a view of the Lorraine Motel on Mulberry St. where
Dr. King was staying, 5B did. You could only see the motel from Ray’s
room if you sat or stool right next to the wall at an acute angle to
window. The communal bathroom only a few feet down the hallway had an
almost head on view. The rooming house occupied the 2nd floors of two
separate buildings, the ground floors of which were occupied by [from
north to south] Jim’s Grill (a bar and grill), Cohn & Co. and Canipe’s
Amusements (a jukebox company that sold used 45s).
King was killed by a single rifle shot at 6:01 PM, police who happened
to be at a fire station around the corner responded quickly. Witnesses
indicated, and the coroner later confirmed, that the shot came from
the general direction of the flophouse. Moments after shot a man
carrying a long bundle ran from hallway Ray’s room was on down to Main
St., dumped the bundle in front of Canipe’s and sped off in a white
Mustang.
Read more here:
http://lies-of-the-truth-movement.blogspot.com.br/2012/04/mlk-assassination-tale-of-two-mustangs.html
Anthony Marsh
Apr 30, 2012, 8:09:49 AM4/30/12
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On 4/29/2012 10:55 PM, Len Colby wrote:
> A few hours before the murder of Martin Luther King Jr. James Earl Ray
> rented a room in a flophouse with a view of Dr. King’s motel room.
> Moments after the shot was fired a white man ran from near Ray’s room
> and sped off in white Mustang. The next morning Ray dumped his white
> Mustang in Atlanta. There were however two such cars parked on the
> block. Ray and his defenders claim he drove off in his before King was
> shot and that the man who fled after was an imposter. The evidence
> however indicates the opposite; the ‘other’ Mustang was driven off
> about 30 minutes before the assassination and the man who fled did so
> in Ray’s car, and thus almost certainly was Ray himself.
>
Cool. So doesn't the coordination of white mustangs indicate conspiracy?
> A few hours before the murder of Martin Luther King Jr. James Earl Ray
> rented a room in a flophouse with a view of Dr. King’s motel room.
> Moments after the shot was fired a white man ran from near Ray’s room
> and sped off in white Mustang. The next morning Ray dumped his white
> Mustang in Atlanta. There were however two such cars parked on the
> block. Ray and his defenders claim he drove off in his before King was
> shot and that the man who fled after was an imposter. The evidence
> however indicates the opposite; the ‘other’ Mustang was driven off
> about 30 minutes before the assassination and the man who fled did so
> in Ray’s car, and thus almost certainly was Ray himself.
>
How do you explain all his travel with no money?
> At about 3 PM April 4, 1968 the day Martin Luther King Jr. was
> assassinated, escaped convict, James Earl Ray inquired about rooms at
> Bessie Brewer’s rooming house on South Main St. in Memphis TN. Mrs.
> Brewer first offered him room 8 but after looking inside he said he
> was not interested, it had a stove and refrigerator and he did not
> need cooking facilities, or so he said. She next showed him room 5B he
> looked inside, said he would take it and registered under an alias.
> Room 8 did not have a view of the Lorraine Motel on Mulberry St. where
> Dr. King was staying, 5B did. You could only see the motel from Ray’s
> room if you sat or stool right next to the wall at an acute angle to
> window. The communal bathroom only a few feet down the hallway had an
> almost head on view. The rooming house occupied the 2nd floors of two
> separate buildings, the ground floors of which were occupied by [from
> Amusements (a jukebox company that sold used 45s).
>
> King was killed by a single rifle shot at 6:01 PM, police who happened
> to be at a fire station around the corner responded quickly. Witnesses
> indicated, and the coroner later confirmed, that the shot came from
> the general direction of the flophouse. Moments after shot a man
> carrying a long bundle ran from hallway Ray’s room was on down to Main
> St., dumped the bundle in front of Canipe’s and sped off in a white
> Mustang.
>
Isn't it a little suspicious that a bag with all the evidence in it is
>
> King was killed by a single rifle shot at 6:01 PM, police who happened
> to be at a fire station around the corner responded quickly. Witnesses
> indicated, and the coroner later confirmed, that the shot came from
> the general direction of the flophouse. Moments after shot a man
> carrying a long bundle ran from hallway Ray’s room was on down to Main
> St., dumped the bundle in front of Canipe’s and sped off in a white
> Mustang.
>
left in a doorway outside the bar?
Len Colby
Apr 30, 2012, 7:08:46 PM4/30/12
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On Apr 30, 8:09 am, Anthony Marsh <anthony.ma...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> Cool. So doesn't the coordination of white mustangs indicate conspiracy?
I answered that in the linked paper:
>
> Cool. So doesn't the coordination of white mustangs indicate conspiracy?
The two Mustangs were very similar. Both were dirty, white, late-model
hard-tops from states (or a state) that differently from Tennessee did
not use front license plates. Ray’s was a 1966 289 HP and the one in
front of Jim’s appears to have been a 1966 - 8 289 HP as well. There
are two possible explanations, coincidence or conspiracy. However
unlike Pepper I don’t think the latter would point to the FBI, CIA,
DoD, MPD or Mafia let alone a combination of these groups. Quite to
the contrary, certainly either one of them would have been capable of
getting two cars without the differences noted above, getting Ray to
scrape off those Mexican stickers and parked the 2nd one in Ray’s spot
after he pulled out. If this was more than an incredible coincidence
it seems to have organized by a not very capable group of people
perhaps some of Ray’s acquaintances or some KKK types, certainly not
men like Richard Helms, J. Edgar Hoover, Carlos Marcello and Frank
Holloman among others.
> How do you explain all his travel with no money?
someone was giving him money, also IIRC there is evidence he was
involved in some robberies
> Isn't it a little suspicious that a bag with all the evidence in it is
> left in a doorway outside the bar?
one of the cop cars and got spooked. If they wanted to frame Ray why
not just leave the stuff in his room?
Len Colby
Apr 30, 2012, 11:50:58 PM4/30/12
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> Cool. So doesn't the coordination of white mustangs indicate conspiracy?
I addressed that in the linked paper:
The two Mustangs were very similar. Both were dirty, white, late-model
did not use front license plates. Ray’s was a 1966 289 HP and the one
in front of Jim’s appears to have been a 1966 - 8 289 HP as well.
There are two possible explanations, coincidence or conspiracy.
However unlike Pepper I don’t think the latter would point to the FBI,
CIA, DoD, MPD or Mafia let alone a combination of these groups. Quite
to the contrary, certainly either one of them would have been capable
of getting two cars without the differences noted above, getting Ray
to scrape off those Mexican stickers and parked the 2nd one in Ray’s
spot after he pulled out. If this was more than an incredible
coincidence it seems to have organized by a not very capable group of
people perhaps some of Ray’s acquaintances or some KKK types,
certainly not men like Richard Helms, J. Edgar Hoover, Carlos Marcello
and Frank Holloman among others.
in front of Jim’s appears to have been a 1966 - 8 289 HP as well.
There are two possible explanations, coincidence or conspiracy.
However unlike Pepper I don’t think the latter would point to the FBI,
CIA, DoD, MPD or Mafia let alone a combination of these groups. Quite
to the contrary, certainly either one of them would have been capable
of getting two cars without the differences noted above, getting Ray
to scrape off those Mexican stickers and parked the 2nd one in Ray’s
spot after he pulled out. If this was more than an incredible
coincidence it seems to have organized by a not very capable group of
people perhaps some of Ray’s acquaintances or some KKK types,
certainly not men like Richard Helms, J. Edgar Hoover, Carlos Marcello
and Frank Holloman among others.
> How do you explain all his travel with no money?
That is outside the scope of my paper but I don’t discount the
possibility someone was funding Ray and IIRC there is evidence he
committed robberies, including a bank robbery after he escaped.
> Isn't it a little suspicious that a bag with all the evidence in it is
> left in a doorway outside the bar?
why wouldn’t the plotters have just left it in Ray’s room? The most
likely explanation is that Ray saw one of the cop cars parked in front
of the fire station and decided dumping the bundle was a better option
than risk being caught with it.
Anthony Marsh
Apr 30, 2012, 11:51:08 PM4/30/12
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On 4/30/2012 7:08 PM, Len Colby wrote:
> On Apr 30, 8:09 am, Anthony Marsh<anthony.ma...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> Cool. So doesn't the coordination of white mustangs indicate conspiracy?
>
>
> I answered that in the linked paper:
>
> The two Mustangs were very similar. Both were dirty, white, late-model
> hard-tops from states (or a state) that differently from Tennessee did
> not use front license plates. Ray’s was a 1966 289 HP and the one in
> front of Jim’s appears to have been a 1966 - 8 289 HP as well. There
> are two possible explanations, coincidence or conspiracy. However
> unlike Pepper I don’t think the latter would point to the FBI, CIA,
> DoD, MPD or Mafia let alone a combination of these groups. Quite to
I am not asking you to reveal which agencies were involved.
> On Apr 30, 8:09 am, Anthony Marsh<anthony.ma...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> Cool. So doesn't the coordination of white mustangs indicate conspiracy?
>
>
> I answered that in the linked paper:
>
> The two Mustangs were very similar. Both were dirty, white, late-model
> hard-tops from states (or a state) that differently from Tennessee did
> not use front license plates. Ray’s was a 1966 289 HP and the one in
> front of Jim’s appears to have been a 1966 - 8 289 HP as well. There
> are two possible explanations, coincidence or conspiracy. However
> unlike Pepper I don’t think the latter would point to the FBI, CIA,
> DoD, MPD or Mafia let alone a combination of these groups. Quite to
I am just talking about conspiracy in general.
> the contrary, certainly either one of them would have been capable of
> getting two cars without the differences noted above, getting Ray to
> scrape off those Mexican stickers and parked the 2nd one in Ray’s spot
> after he pulled out. If this was more than an incredible coincidence
> it seems to have organized by a not very capable group of people
> perhaps some of Ray’s acquaintances or some KKK types, certainly not
> men like Richard Helms, J. Edgar Hoover, Carlos Marcello and Frank
> Holloman among others.
>
conspiracy was financed by some dumb country hick with lots of money,
not the CIA, not the FBI.
>
>> How do you explain all his travel with no money?
>
> That's outside the scope of my paper but I think it's quite possible
> someone was giving him money, also IIRC there is evidence he was
> involved in some robberies
>
Len Colby
May 1, 2012, 4:40:17 PM5/1/12
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On Apr 30, 11:51 pm, Anthony Marsh <anthony.ma...@comcast.net> wrote:
> I am not asking you to reveal which agencies were involved.
> I am just talking about conspiracy in general.
There were several bounties on King’s head, my take is that Ray hoped
> I am not asking you to reveal which agencies were involved.
> I am just talking about conspiracy in general.
to collect one, it is possible some gave him money beforehand and some
other help. If you believe that the conspiracy (if there was one)
didn’t go beyond some Klan types and perhaps some of Ray’s brothers,
then we are in general agreement.
> > the contrary, certainly either one of them would have been capable of
> > getting two cars without the differences noted above, getting Ray to
> > scrape off those Mexican stickers and parked the 2nd one in Ray’s spot
> > after he pulled out. If this was more than an incredible coincidence
> > it seems to have organized by a not very capable group of people
> > perhaps some of Ray’s acquaintances or some KKK types, certainly not
> > men like Richard Helms, J. Edgar Hoover, Carlos Marcello and Frank
> > Holloman among others.
>
> Well, according to the court case which the King family won the
> conspiracy was financed by some dumb country hick with lots of money,
> not the CIA, not the FBI.
“conspiracy…reached into the higher levels of the government of the
United States and some of its agents and officials.” The civil case
was a joke; it was a publicity stunt. Loyd Jowers, the ‘defendant’,
and his lawyer also said there was such a conspiracy but claimed he
was but a small cog, the King family only asked for $100. Why would
someone pay a lawyer to fight a $100 claim? Why would a prominent NYC
come down to Memphis for a few weeks to claim that amount? It was an
abuse of the judicial system.
http://www.thekingcenter.org/civil-case-king-family-versus-jowers
As noted in my paper:
“The Civil Rights Division of the DoJ however made a very strong case
that Jowers later claims were BS, he told an essentially consistent
story for over 25 years, then told various inconstant and implausible
tales of a complex conspiracy which he eventually recanted and
described as “b***s***”. His ‘confession’ was apparently part of a
scheme to try and get a book or movie deal”
http://www.justice.gov/crt/about/crm/mlk/part3.php
>
>
> >> How do you explain all his travel with no money?
>
> > That's outside the scope of my paper but I think it's quite possible
> > someone was giving him money, also IIRC there is evidence he was
> > involved in some robberies
>
> Nice dodge.
How was my answer a dodge? Where he got his money was outside the
>
> >> How do you explain all his travel with no money?
>
> > That's outside the scope of my paper but I think it's quite possible
> > someone was giving him money, also IIRC there is evidence he was
> > involved in some robberies
>
> Nice dodge.
scope of my paper. He and one of his brothers were suspect in one bank
robbery which netted “more than $27,000 in cash”, half that would have
gone a long way back then. Even Pepper acknowledged “The Alton bank
robbery occurred on the day before some of his purchases began…”.
Pepper also wrote that “James, however, said he initially obtained
funds in Canada by robbing a Montreal brothel…”
http://www.thetelegraph.com/articles/dealey-12639-bank-came.html
http://www.american-buddha.com/martin.orderskill.12.htm
Len Colby
May 1, 2012, 4:47:09 PM5/1/12
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> I am not asking you to reveal which agencies were involved.
> I am just talking about conspiracy in general.
> I am just talking about conspiracy in general.
There were several bounties on King’s head, my take is that Ray hoped
to collect one, it is possible some gave him money beforehand and some
other help. If you believe that the conspiracy (if there was one)
didn’t go beyond some Klan types and perhaps some of Ray’s brothers,
then we are in general agreement.
to collect one, it is possible some gave him money beforehand and some
other help. If you believe that the conspiracy (if there was one)
didn’t go beyond some Klan types and perhaps some of Ray’s brothers,
then we are in general agreement.
> > the contrary, certainly either one of them would have been capable of
> > getting two cars without the differences noted above, getting Ray to
> > scrape off those Mexican stickers and parked the 2nd one in Ray’s spot
> > after he pulled out. If this was more than an incredible coincidence
> > it seems to have organized by a not very capable group of people
> > perhaps some of Ray’s acquaintances or some KKK types, certainly not
> > men like Richard Helms, J. Edgar Hoover, Carlos Marcello and Frank
> > Holloman among others.
>
> Well, according to the court case which the King family won the
> conspiracy was financed by some dumb country hick with lots of money,
> not the CIA, not the FBI.
> > getting two cars without the differences noted above, getting Ray to
> > scrape off those Mexican stickers and parked the 2nd one in Ray’s spot
> > after he pulled out. If this was more than an incredible coincidence
> > it seems to have organized by a not very capable group of people
> > perhaps some of Ray’s acquaintances or some KKK types, certainly not
> > men like Richard Helms, J. Edgar Hoover, Carlos Marcello and Frank
> > Holloman among others.
>
> Well, according to the court case which the King family won the
> conspiracy was financed by some dumb country hick with lots of money,
> not the CIA, not the FBI.
Wrong again the plaintiffs charged, and the jury held, that the
“conspiracy…reached into the higher levels of the government of the
United States and some of its agents and officials.” The civil case
was a joke; it was a publicity stunt. Loyd Jowers, the ‘defendant’,
and his lawyer also said there was such a conspiracy but claimed he
was but a small cog, the King family only asked for $100. Why would
someone pay a lawyer to fight a $100 claim? Why would a prominent NYC
come down to Memphis for a few weeks to claim that amount? It was an
abuse of the judicial system.
http://www.thekingcenter.org/civil-case-king-family-versus-jowers
As noted in my paper:
“The Civil Rights Division of the DoJ however made a very strong case
that Jowers later claims were BS, he told an essentially consistent
story for over 25 years, then told various inconstant and implausible
tales of a complex conspiracy which he eventually recanted and
described as “b***s***”. His ‘confession’ was apparently part of a
scheme to try and get a book or movie deal”
http://www.justice.gov/crt/about/crm/mlk/part3.php
>
>
“conspiracy…reached into the higher levels of the government of the
United States and some of its agents and officials.” The civil case
was a joke; it was a publicity stunt. Loyd Jowers, the ‘defendant’,
and his lawyer also said there was such a conspiracy but claimed he
was but a small cog, the King family only asked for $100. Why would
someone pay a lawyer to fight a $100 claim? Why would a prominent NYC
come down to Memphis for a few weeks to claim that amount? It was an
abuse of the judicial system.
http://www.thekingcenter.org/civil-case-king-family-versus-jowers
As noted in my paper:
“The Civil Rights Division of the DoJ however made a very strong case
that Jowers later claims were BS, he told an essentially consistent
story for over 25 years, then told various inconstant and implausible
tales of a complex conspiracy which he eventually recanted and
described as “b***s***”. His ‘confession’ was apparently part of a
scheme to try and get a book or movie deal”
http://www.justice.gov/crt/about/crm/mlk/part3.php
>
>
> >> How do you explain all his travel with no money?
>
> > That's outside the scope of my paper but I think it's quite possible
> > someone was giving him money, also IIRC there is evidence he was
> > involved in some robberies
>
> Nice dodge.
>
> > That's outside the scope of my paper but I think it's quite possible
> > someone was giving him money, also IIRC there is evidence he was
> > involved in some robberies
>
> Nice dodge.
Anthony Marsh
May 1, 2012, 8:36:28 PM5/1/12
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On 5/1/2012 4:47 PM, Len Colby wrote:
> On Apr 30, 11:51 pm, Anthony Marsh<anthony.ma...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> I am not asking you to reveal which agencies were involved.
>> I am just talking about conspiracy in general.
>
> There were several bounties on King’s head, my take is that Ray hoped
> to collect one, it is possible some gave him money beforehand and some
> other help. If you believe that the conspiracy (if there was one)
> didn’t go beyond some Klan types and perhaps some of Ray’s brothers,
> then we are in general agreement.
>
>>> the contrary, certainly either one of them would have been capable of
>>> getting two cars without the differences noted above, getting Ray to
>>> scrape off those Mexican stickers and parked the 2nd one in Ray’s spot
>>> after he pulled out. If this was more than an incredible coincidence
>>> it seems to have organized by a not very capable group of people
>>> perhaps some of Ray’s acquaintances or some KKK types, certainly not
>>> men like Richard Helms, J. Edgar Hoover, Carlos Marcello and Frank
>>> Holloman among others.
>>
>> Well, according to the court case which the King family won the
>> conspiracy was financed by some dumb country hick with lots of money,
>> not the CIA, not the FBI.
>
>
> Wrong again the plaintiffs charged, and the jury held, that the
> “conspiracy…reached into the higher levels of the government of the
> United States and some of its agents and officials.” The civil case
Did they name the CIA or FBI? No.
> On Apr 30, 11:51 pm, Anthony Marsh<anthony.ma...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> I am not asking you to reveal which agencies were involved.
>> I am just talking about conspiracy in general.
>
> There were several bounties on King’s head, my take is that Ray hoped
> to collect one, it is possible some gave him money beforehand and some
> other help. If you believe that the conspiracy (if there was one)
> didn’t go beyond some Klan types and perhaps some of Ray’s brothers,
> then we are in general agreement.
>
>>> the contrary, certainly either one of them would have been capable of
>>> getting two cars without the differences noted above, getting Ray to
>>> scrape off those Mexican stickers and parked the 2nd one in Ray’s spot
>>> after he pulled out. If this was more than an incredible coincidence
>>> it seems to have organized by a not very capable group of people
>>> perhaps some of Ray’s acquaintances or some KKK types, certainly not
>>> men like Richard Helms, J. Edgar Hoover, Carlos Marcello and Frank
>>> Holloman among others.
>>
>> Well, according to the court case which the King family won the
>> conspiracy was financed by some dumb country hick with lots of money,
>> not the CIA, not the FBI.
>
>
> Wrong again the plaintiffs charged, and the jury held, that the
> “conspiracy…reached into the higher levels of the government of the
> United States and some of its agents and officials.” The civil case
> was a joke; it was a publicity stunt. Loyd Jowers, the ‘defendant’,
> and his lawyer also said there was such a conspiracy but claimed he
> was but a small cog, the King family only asked for $100. Why would
> someone pay a lawyer to fight a $100 claim? Why would a prominent NYC
> come down to Memphis for a few weeks to claim that amount? It was an
> abuse of the judicial system.
>
conspiracy?
> http://www.thekingcenter.org/civil-case-king-family-versus-jowers
>
> As noted in my paper:
>
> “The Civil Rights Division of the DoJ however made a very strong case
> that Jowers later claims were BS, he told an essentially consistent
> story for over 25 years, then told various inconstant and implausible
> tales of a complex conspiracy which he eventually recanted and
> described as “b***s***”. His ‘confession’ was apparently part of a
> scheme to try and get a book or movie deal”
>
> http://www.justice.gov/crt/about/crm/mlk/part3.php
>>
>>
>>>> How do you explain all his travel with no money?
>>
>>> That's outside the scope of my paper but I think it's quite possible
>>> someone was giving him money, also IIRC there is evidence he was
>>> involved in some robberies
>>
>> Nice dodge.
>
>
> How was my answer a dodge? Where he got his money was outside the
> scope of my paper. He and one of his brothers were suspect in one bank
> robbery which netted “more than $27,000 in cash”, half that would have
Len Colby
May 2, 2012, 9:13:10 AM5/2/12
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So who do you think they were referring to when they accused “higher
levels of the government of the United States and some of its agents
and officials”? USPS? The Agriculture Department? There is little room
for doubt Pepper accused the CIA and FBI in his books and the King
family went along for the ride and Pepper directly implied the FBI was
involved during the trial. Your original claim “according to the court
case which the King family won the conspiracy was financed by some
dumb country hick with lots of money, not the CIA, not the FBI” was
way off the mark. This topic has nothing to do with the topic of my
paper, which I doubt you’ve read, I have nothing more to say about it.
> > was a joke; it was a publicity stunt. Loyd Jowers, the ‘defendant’,
> > and his lawyer also said there was such a conspiracy but claimed he
> > was but a small cog, the King family only asked for $100. Why would
> > someone pay a lawyer to fight a $100 claim? Why would a prominent NYC
> > come down to Memphis for a few weeks to claim that amount? It was an
> > abuse of the judicial system.
>
> So, we have the confession of conspiracy and you claim it was NOT a
> conspiracy?
to make his most damming claims under oath, as spelled out in the DoJ
report which I doubt you’ve read. Why would someone sue for $100? Why
would a prominent NYC lawyer spend over 3 weeks in Memphis, not to
mention his prep. time, for his cut of such an award? Why would a
defendant hire a lawyer to defend him in such a case? Pepper wanted a
soap box with the legitimacy a court case would provide, Jowers and
his lawyer wanted a quick buck. It was a show trial, both sides took
essentially the same position; there was no one to provide counter
evidence.
>
>
>
>
> >http://www.thekingcenter.org/civil-case-king-family-versus-jowers
>
> > As noted in my paper:
>
> > “The Civil Rights Division of the DoJ however made a very strong case
> > that Jowers later claims were BS, he told an essentially consistent
> > story for over 25 years, then told various inconstant and implausible
> > tales of a complex conspiracy which he eventually recanted and
> > described as “b***s***”. His ‘confession’ was apparently part of a
> > scheme to try and get a book or movie deal”
>
> >http://www.justice.gov/crt/about/crm/mlk/part3.php
>
> >>>> How do you explain all his travel with no money?
>
> >>> That's outside the scope of my paper but I think it's quite possible
> >>> someone was giving him money, also IIRC there is evidence he was
> >>> involved in some robberies
>
> >> Nice dodge.
>
> > How was my answer a dodge? Where he got his money was outside the
> > scope of my paper. He and one of his brothers were suspect in one bank
> > robbery which netted “more than $27,000 in cash”, half that would have
>
> Suspect? How about some proof? Never from a WC defender.
>
The evidence is circumstantial; the robbery occurred in his hometown a
>
>
>
> >http://www.thekingcenter.org/civil-case-king-family-versus-jowers
>
> > As noted in my paper:
>
> > “The Civil Rights Division of the DoJ however made a very strong case
> > that Jowers later claims were BS, he told an essentially consistent
> > story for over 25 years, then told various inconstant and implausible
> > tales of a complex conspiracy which he eventually recanted and
> > described as “b***s***”. His ‘confession’ was apparently part of a
> > scheme to try and get a book or movie deal”
>
> >http://www.justice.gov/crt/about/crm/mlk/part3.php
>
> >>>> How do you explain all his travel with no money?
>
> >>> That's outside the scope of my paper but I think it's quite possible
> >>> someone was giving him money, also IIRC there is evidence he was
> >>> involved in some robberies
>
> >> Nice dodge.
>
> > How was my answer a dodge? Where he got his money was outside the
> > scope of my paper. He and one of his brothers were suspect in one bank
> > robbery which netted “more than $27,000 in cash”, half that would have
>
> Suspect? How about some proof? Never from a WC defender.
>
couple of months after he escaped, he started spending heavily the day
after it. He and his brother had used a similar MO in other robberies.
Most of the money taken was $20 bills, many of Ray’s purchases were
made with large numbers of 20s. In any case a) he was a habitual
criminal if he wasn’t one of the Alton robbers he could have committed
other crimes, b) I don’t doubt he might have been funded by some Klan
types it’s not like he spent exorbitant amounts of money. What makes
you think local reporter Dan Brannan was “a WC defender”?
This topic has nothing to do with the topic of my paper, which I also
doubt you read, I have nothing more to say about it.
Anthony Marsh
May 2, 2012, 9:25:30 AM5/2/12
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On 5/1/2012 4:40 PM, Len Colby wrote:
> On Apr 30, 11:51 pm, Anthony Marsh<anthony.ma...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> I am not asking you to reveal which agencies were involved.
>> I am just talking about conspiracy in general.
>
> There were several bounties on King’s head, my take is that Ray hoped
> to collect one, it is possible some gave him money beforehand and some
> other help. If you believe that the conspiracy (if there was one)
> didn’t go beyond some Klan types and perhaps some of Ray’s brothers,
> then we are in general agreement.
>
In other words a contract hit, half up front and half after the job.
> On Apr 30, 11:51 pm, Anthony Marsh<anthony.ma...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> I am not asking you to reveal which agencies were involved.
>> I am just talking about conspiracy in general.
>
> There were several bounties on King’s head, my take is that Ray hoped
> to collect one, it is possible some gave him money beforehand and some
> other help. If you believe that the conspiracy (if there was one)
> didn’t go beyond some Klan types and perhaps some of Ray’s brothers,
> then we are in general agreement.
>
>>> the contrary, certainly either one of them would have been capable of
>>> getting two cars without the differences noted above, getting Ray to
>>> scrape off those Mexican stickers and parked the 2nd one in Ray’s spot
>>> after he pulled out. If this was more than an incredible coincidence
>>> it seems to have organized by a not very capable group of people
>>> perhaps some of Ray’s acquaintances or some KKK types, certainly not
>>> men like Richard Helms, J. Edgar Hoover, Carlos Marcello and Frank
>>> Holloman among others.
>>
>> Well, according to the court case which the King family won the
>> conspiracy was financed by some dumb country hick with lots of money,
>> not the CIA, not the FBI.
>
>
> Wrong again the plaintiffs charged, and the jury held, that the
> “conspiracy…reached into the higher levels of the government of the
> United States and some of its agents and officials.” The civil case
mentioning them by name.
> was a joke; it was a publicity stunt. Loyd Jowers, the ‘defendant’,
> and his lawyer also said there was such a conspiracy but claimed he
> was but a small cog, the King family only asked for $100. Why would
> someone pay a lawyer to fight a $100 claim? Why would a prominent NYC
> come down to Memphis for a few weeks to claim that amount? It was an
> abuse of the judicial system.
>
> http://www.thekingcenter.org/civil-case-king-family-versus-jowers
>
> As noted in my paper:
>
> “The Civil Rights Division of the DoJ however made a very strong case
> that Jowers later claims were BS, he told an essentially consistent
> story for over 25 years, then told various inconstant and implausible
> tales of a complex conspiracy which he eventually recanted and
> described as “b***s***”. His ‘confession’ was apparently part of a
> scheme to try and get a book or movie deal”
>
Sounds fishy to me.
> http://www.justice.gov/crt/about/crm/mlk/part3.php
>>
>>
>>>> How do you explain all his travel with no money?
>>
>>> That's outside the scope of my paper but I think it's quite possible
>>> someone was giving him money, also IIRC there is evidence he was
>>> involved in some robberies
>>
>> Nice dodge.
>
>
> How was my answer a dodge? Where he got his money was outside the
> scope of my paper. He and one of his brothers were suspect in one bank
> robbery which netted “more than $27,000 in cash”, half that would have
> gone a long way back then. Even Pepper acknowledged “The Alton bank
> robbery occurred on the day before some of his purchases began…”.
> Pepper also wrote that “James, however, said he initially obtained
> funds in Canada by robbing a Montreal brothel…”
>
> http://www.thetelegraph.com/articles/dealey-12639-bank-came.html
> http://www.american-buddha.com/martin.orderskill.12.htm
>
>
Len Colby
May 2, 2012, 5:12:03 PM5/2/12
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On May 2, 9:25 am, Anthony Marsh <anthony.ma...@comcast.net> wrote:
> On 5/1/2012 4:40 PM, Len Colby wrote:
>
> > On Apr 30, 11:51 pm, Anthony Marsh<anthony.ma...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> >> I am not asking you to reveal which agencies were involved.
> >> I am just talking about conspiracy in general.
>
> > There were several bounties on King’s head, my take is that Ray hoped
> > to collect one, it is possible some gave him money beforehand and some
> > other help. If you believe that the conspiracy (if there was one)
> > didn’t go beyond some Klan types and perhaps some of Ray’s brothers,
> > then we are in general agreement.
>
> In other words a contract hit, half up front and half after the job.
Perhaps half, perhaps expenses plus a stipend, who knows?
> On 5/1/2012 4:40 PM, Len Colby wrote:
>
> > On Apr 30, 11:51 pm, Anthony Marsh<anthony.ma...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> >> I am not asking you to reveal which agencies were involved.
> >> I am just talking about conspiracy in general.
>
> > There were several bounties on King’s head, my take is that Ray hoped
> > to collect one, it is possible some gave him money beforehand and some
> > other help. If you believe that the conspiracy (if there was one)
> > didn’t go beyond some Klan types and perhaps some of Ray’s brothers,
> > then we are in general agreement.
>
> In other words a contract hit, half up front and half after the job.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >>> the contrary, certainly either one of them would have been capable of
> >>> getting two cars without the differences noted above, getting Ray to
> >>> scrape off those Mexican stickers and parked the 2nd one in Ray’s spot
> >>> after he pulled out. If this was more than an incredible coincidence
> >>> it seems to have organized by a not very capable group of people
> >>> perhaps some of Ray’s acquaintances or some KKK types, certainly not
> >>> men like Richard Helms, J. Edgar Hoover, Carlos Marcello and Frank
> >>> Holloman among others.
>
> >> Well, according to the court case which the King family won the
> >> conspiracy was financed by some dumb country hick with lots of money,
> >> not the CIA, not the FBI.
>
> > Wrong again the plaintiffs charged, and the jury held, that the
> > “conspiracy…reached into the higher levels of the government of the
> > United States and some of its agents and officials.” The civil case
>
> They did not specify the CIA or the FBI. I complained about you
> mentioning them by name.
them in their writings and comments.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > was a joke; it was a publicity stunt. Loyd Jowers, the ‘defendant’,
> > and his lawyer also said there was such a conspiracy but claimed he
> > was but a small cog, the King family only asked for $100. Why would
> > someone pay a lawyer to fight a $100 claim? Why would a prominent NYC
> > come down to Memphis for a few weeks to claim that amount? It was an
> > abuse of the judicial system.
>
> >http://www.thekingcenter.org/civil-case-king-family-versus-jowers
>
> > As noted in my paper:
>
> > “The Civil Rights Division of the DoJ however made a very strong case
> > that Jowers later claims were BS, he told an essentially consistent
> > story for over 25 years, then told various inconstant and implausible
> > tales of a complex conspiracy which he eventually recanted and
> > described as “b***s***”. His ‘confession’ was apparently part of a
> > scheme to try and get a book or movie deal”
>
> Why would he confess to hiring Ray? For fame? Status?
> Sounds fishy to me.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >http://www.justice.gov/crt/about/crm/mlk/part3.php
>
> >>>> How do you explain all his travel with no money?
>
> >>> That's outside the scope of my paper but I think it's quite possible
> >>> someone was giving him money, also IIRC there is evidence he was
> >>> involved in some robberies
>
> >> Nice dodge.
>
> > How was my answer a dodge? Where he got his money was outside the
> > scope of my paper. He and one of his brothers were suspect in one bank
> > robbery which netted “more than $27,000 in cash”, half that would have
> > gone a long way back then. Even Pepper acknowledged “The Alton bank
> > robbery occurred on the day before some of his purchases began…”.
> > Pepper also wrote that “James, however, said he initially obtained
> > funds in Canada by robbing a Montreal brothel…”
>
> Yeh, like that sounds really believable.
brothel?
My paper was about Ray's obviously false gas station alibi, especially
the witnesses descriptions of the 2 Mustangs, I'm not really
interested in debating other points here.
>
>
>
>
>
> >http://www.thetelegraph.com/articles/dealey-12639-bank-came.html
> >http://www.american-buddha.com/martin.orderskill.12.htm
Len Colby
May 2, 2012, 5:43:29 PM5/2/12
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On May 2, 9:25 am, Anthony Marsh <anthony.ma...@comcast.net> wrote:
> On 5/1/2012 4:40 PM, Len Colby wrote:
>
> > On Apr 30, 11:51 pm, Anthony Marsh<anthony.ma...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> >> I am not asking you to reveal which agencies were involved.
> >> I am just talking about conspiracy in general.
>
> > There were several bounties on King’s head, my take is that Ray hoped
> > to collect one, it is possible some gave him money beforehand and some
> > other help. If you believe that the conspiracy (if there was one)
> > didn’t go beyond some Klan types and perhaps some of Ray’s brothers,
> > then we are in general agreement.
>
> In other words a contract hit, half up front and half after the job.
> On 5/1/2012 4:40 PM, Len Colby wrote:
>
> > On Apr 30, 11:51 pm, Anthony Marsh<anthony.ma...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> >> I am not asking you to reveal which agencies were involved.
> >> I am just talking about conspiracy in general.
>
> > There were several bounties on King’s head, my take is that Ray hoped
> > to collect one, it is possible some gave him money beforehand and some
> > other help. If you believe that the conspiracy (if there was one)
> > didn’t go beyond some Klan types and perhaps some of Ray’s brothers,
> > then we are in general agreement.
>
> In other words a contract hit, half up front and half after the job.
Perhaps half, perhaps expenses plus a stipend, who knows?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >>> the contrary, certainly either one of them would have been capable of
> >>> getting two cars without the differences noted above, getting Ray to
> >>> scrape off those Mexican stickers and parked the 2nd one in Ray’s spot
> >>> after he pulled out. If this was more than an incredible coincidence
> >>> it seems to have organized by a not very capable group of people
> >>> perhaps some of Ray’s acquaintances or some KKK types, certainly not
> >>> men like Richard Helms, J. Edgar Hoover, Carlos Marcello and Frank
> >>> Holloman among others.
>
> >> Well, according to the court case which the King family won the
> >> conspiracy was financed by some dumb country hick with lots of money,
> >> not the CIA, not the FBI.
>
> > Wrong again the plaintiffs charged, and the jury held, that the
> > “conspiracy…reached into the higher levels of the government of the
> > United States and some of its agents and officials.” The civil case
>
> They did not specify the CIA or the FBI. I complained about you
> mentioning them by name.
> >>> getting two cars without the differences noted above, getting Ray to
> >>> scrape off those Mexican stickers and parked the 2nd one in Ray’s spot
> >>> after he pulled out. If this was more than an incredible coincidence
> >>> it seems to have organized by a not very capable group of people
> >>> perhaps some of Ray’s acquaintances or some KKK types, certainly not
> >>> men like Richard Helms, J. Edgar Hoover, Carlos Marcello and Frank
> >>> Holloman among others.
>
> >> Well, according to the court case which the King family won the
> >> conspiracy was financed by some dumb country hick with lots of money,
> >> not the CIA, not the FBI.
>
> > Wrong again the plaintiffs charged, and the jury held, that the
> > “conspiracy…reached into the higher levels of the government of the
> > United States and some of its agents and officials.” The civil case
>
> They did not specify the CIA or the FBI. I complained about you
> mentioning them by name.
We are going in circles, they -Pepper and the Kings - repeatedly cited
them in their writings and comments.
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them in their writings and comments.
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>
> > was a joke; it was a publicity stunt. Loyd Jowers, the ‘defendant’,
> > and his lawyer also said there was such a conspiracy but claimed he
> > was but a small cog, the King family only asked for $100. Why would
> > someone pay a lawyer to fight a $100 claim? Why would a prominent NYC
> > come down to Memphis for a few weeks to claim that amount? It was an
> > abuse of the judicial system.
>
> >http://www.thekingcenter.org/civil-case-king-family-versus-jowers
>
> > As noted in my paper:
>
> > “The Civil Rights Division of the DoJ however made a very strong case
> > that Jowers later claims were BS, he told an essentially consistent
> > story for over 25 years, then told various inconstant and implausible
> > tales of a complex conspiracy which he eventually recanted and
> > described as “b***s***”. His ‘confession’ was apparently part of a
> > scheme to try and get a book or movie deal”
>
> Why would he confess to hiring Ray? For fame? Status?
> Sounds fishy to me.
> > and his lawyer also said there was such a conspiracy but claimed he
> > was but a small cog, the King family only asked for $100. Why would
> > someone pay a lawyer to fight a $100 claim? Why would a prominent NYC
> > come down to Memphis for a few weeks to claim that amount? It was an
> > abuse of the judicial system.
>
> >http://www.thekingcenter.org/civil-case-king-family-versus-jowers
>
> > As noted in my paper:
>
> > “The Civil Rights Division of the DoJ however made a very strong case
> > that Jowers later claims were BS, he told an essentially consistent
> > story for over 25 years, then told various inconstant and implausible
> > tales of a complex conspiracy which he eventually recanted and
> > described as “b***s***”. His ‘confession’ was apparently part of a
> > scheme to try and get a book or movie deal”
>
> Why would he confess to hiring Ray? For fame? Status?
> Sounds fishy to me.
Mullah it seems, do you believe James Files?
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> >http://www.justice.gov/crt/about/crm/mlk/part3.php
>
> >>>> How do you explain all his travel with no money?
>
> >>> That's outside the scope of my paper but I think it's quite possible
> >>> someone was giving him money, also IIRC there is evidence he was
> >>> involved in some robberies
>
> >> Nice dodge.
>
> > How was my answer a dodge? Where he got his money was outside the
> > scope of my paper. He and one of his brothers were suspect in one bank
> > robbery which netted “more than $27,000 in cash”, half that would have
> > gone a long way back then. Even Pepper acknowledged “The Alton bank
> > robbery occurred on the day before some of his purchases began…”.
> > Pepper also wrote that “James, however, said he initially obtained
> > funds in Canada by robbing a Montreal brothel…”
>
> Yeh, like that sounds really believable.
>
> >>>> How do you explain all his travel with no money?
>
> >>> That's outside the scope of my paper but I think it's quite possible
> >>> someone was giving him money, also IIRC there is evidence he was
> >>> involved in some robberies
>
> >> Nice dodge.
>
> > How was my answer a dodge? Where he got his money was outside the
> > scope of my paper. He and one of his brothers were suspect in one bank
> > robbery which netted “more than $27,000 in cash”, half that would have
> > gone a long way back then. Even Pepper acknowledged “The Alton bank
> > robbery occurred on the day before some of his purchases began…”.
> > Pepper also wrote that “James, however, said he initially obtained
> > funds in Canada by robbing a Montreal brothel…”
>
> Yeh, like that sounds really believable.
Which story do doubt the one about the bank or the one about the
brothel?
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>
> >http://www.thetelegraph.com/articles/dealey-12639-bank-came.html
brothel?
>
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> >http://www.american-buddha.com/martin.orderskill.12.htm
Anthony Marsh
May 3, 2012, 10:34:46 AM5/3/12
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transcript and quoting what he said?
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>>
>>> was a joke; it was a publicity stunt. Loyd Jowers, the ‘defendant’,
>>> and his lawyer also said there was such a conspiracy but claimed he
>>> was but a small cog, the King family only asked for $100. Why would
>>> someone pay a lawyer to fight a $100 claim? Why would a prominent NYC
>>> come down to Memphis for a few weeks to claim that amount? It was an
>>> abuse of the judicial system.
>>
>>> http://www.thekingcenter.org/civil-case-king-family-versus-jowers
>>
>>> As noted in my paper:
>>
>>> “The Civil Rights Division of the DoJ however made a very strong case
>>> that Jowers later claims were BS, he told an essentially consistent
>>> story for over 25 years, then told various inconstant and implausible
>>> tales of a complex conspiracy which he eventually recanted and
>>> described as “b***s***”. His ‘confession’ was apparently part of a
>>> scheme to try and get a book or movie deal”
>>
>> Why would he confess to hiring Ray? For fame? Status?
>> Sounds fishy to me.
>
> Mullah it seems, do you believe James Files?
I was one of the first to shoot down the James Files story and was
physically threatened for doing so.
>>
>>
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>>
>>
>>> http://www.justice.gov/crt/about/crm/mlk/part3.php
>>
>>>>>> How do you explain all his travel with no money?
>>
>>>>> That's outside the scope of my paper but I think it's quite possible
>>>>> someone was giving him money, also IIRC there is evidence he was
>>>>> involved in some robberies
>>
>>>> Nice dodge.
>>
>>> How was my answer a dodge? Where he got his money was outside the
>>> scope of my paper. He and one of his brothers were suspect in one bank
>>> robbery which netted “more than $27,000 in cash”, half that would have
>>> gone a long way back then. Even Pepper acknowledged “The Alton bank
>>> robbery occurred on the day before some of his purchases began…”.
>>> Pepper also wrote that “James, however, said he initially obtained
>>> funds in Canada by robbing a Montreal brothel…”
>>
>> Yeh, like that sounds really believable.
>
> Which story do doubt the one about the bank or the one about the
> brothel?
>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> http://www.thetelegraph.com/articles/dealey-12639-bank-came.html
>>> http://www.american-buddha.com/martin.orderskill.12.htm
>
Len Colby
May 3, 2012, 4:52:33 PM5/3/12
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> >>>>>> How do you explain all his travel with no money?
>
> >>>>> That's outside the scope of my paper but I think it's quite possible
> >>>>> someone was giving him money, also IIRC there is evidence he was
> >>>>> involved in some robberies
>
> >>>> Nice dodge.
>
> >>> How was my answer a dodge? Where he got his money was outside the
> >>> scope of my paper. He and one of his brothers were suspect in one bank
> >>> robbery which netted “more than $27,000 in cash”, half that would have
> >>> gone a long way back then. Even Pepper acknowledged “The Alton bank
> >>> robbery occurred on the day before some of his purchases began…”.
> >>> Pepper also wrote that “James, however, said he initially obtained
> >>> funds in Canada by robbing a Montreal brothel…”
>
> >> Yeh, like that sounds really believable.
>
> > Which story do doubt the one about the bank or the one about the
> > brothel?
>
> Any story you tell.
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> >>>http://www.thetelegraph.com/articles/dealey-12639-bank-came.html
> >>>http://www.american-buddha.com/martin.orderskill.12.htm
Len Colby
May 3, 2012, 7:28:39 PM5/3/12
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So why did Files "confess"? As for Jowers read the report.
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> >>>>>> How do you explain all his travel with no money?
>
> >>>>> That's outside the scope of my paper but I think it's quite possible
> >>>>> someone was giving him money, also IIRC there is evidence he was
> >>>>> involved in some robberies
>
> >>>> Nice dodge.
>
> >>> How was my answer a dodge? Where he got his money was outside the
> >>> scope of my paper. He and one of his brothers were suspect in one bank
> >>> robbery which netted “more than $27,000 in cash”, half that would have
> >>> gone a long way back then. Even Pepper acknowledged “The Alton bank
> >>> robbery occurred on the day before some of his purchases began…”.
> >>> Pepper also wrote that “James, however, said he initially obtained
> >>> funds in Canada by robbing a Montreal brothel…”
>
> >> Yeh, like that sounds really believable.
>
> > Which story do doubt the one about the bank or the one about the
> > brothel?
>
> Any story you tell.
>
> >>>>>> How do you explain all his travel with no money?
>
> >>>>> That's outside the scope of my paper but I think it's quite possible
> >>>>> someone was giving him money, also IIRC there is evidence he was
> >>>>> involved in some robberies
>
> >>>> Nice dodge.
>
> >>> How was my answer a dodge? Where he got his money was outside the
> >>> scope of my paper. He and one of his brothers were suspect in one bank
> >>> robbery which netted “more than $27,000 in cash”, half that would have
> >>> gone a long way back then. Even Pepper acknowledged “The Alton bank
> >>> robbery occurred on the day before some of his purchases began…”.
> >>> Pepper also wrote that “James, however, said he initially obtained
> >>> funds in Canada by robbing a Montreal brothel…”
>
> >> Yeh, like that sounds really believable.
>
> > Which story do doubt the one about the bank or the one about the
> > brothel?
>
> Any story you tell.
Anthony Marsh
May 4, 2012, 7:48:20 PM5/4/12
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of prison for killing the judge.
Len Colby
May 6, 2012, 7:49:15 PM5/6/12
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> >>>>>http://www.thetelegraph.com/articles/dealey-12639-bank-came.html
> >>>>>http://www.american-buddha.com/martin.orderskill.12.htm
I had not noticed this before so yes, Files got or expected to get
money for his tale and so did Jowers
Still await your reply on the rest.
Back to the Alton job. I thought Ray claimed he was in Canada at the
time but he told the HSCA he was still in the area. Quincy is 127
miles from Alton, East St. Louis only 30.
http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?docId=95653&relPageId=97
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