Everyone on Irc seems like their 12 years old
Paula & Alec Burton
Every time I've gone into IRC chat rooms the people are talking like they are
on the same level as my 12 year old child. Are their any adults on IRC that
have real conversations? All the stupid slang and symbols are enough to drive
a person crazy. I want to have normal conversations. Isn't their anyone else
that feels the same way? If I see another :) again I swear I'll throw up!
Paula
Adam Noel Harris
Paula & Alec Burton (nves...@teleport.com) said this stuff:
: Every time I've gone into IRC chat rooms the people are talking like they are
:)
For your next trick, please disappear.
-Adam
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Hugues-Antoine Suin
Paula & Alec Burton wrote:
>
> Every time I've gone into IRC chat rooms the people are talking like they are
I feel exactly the same.
--
Hugues-Antoine Suin
af...@club-internet.fr
Glenn Pullen
> : on the same level as my 12 year old child. Are their any adults on IRC that
> : have real conversations? All the stupid slang and symbols are enough to drive
> : a person crazy. I want to have normal conversations. Isn't their anyone else
> : that feels the same way? If I see another :) again I swear I'll throw up!
>
> :)
>
> For your next trick, please disappear.
>
> -Adam
>
> Opinions expressed are not necessarily those of Stanford Univerity.
> Finger for public key.
Quit whining
dd
Glenn Pullen <tex...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
===========================================
First off, decide what it is you want to talk about, then find a
channel with a similar interest and go there. If you can't find a
channel that suites you, make one. If this does'nt solve your problem,
then I'd have to agree with the previous post and say quit whining
indeed! :)
Mikko Rautalahti - Warner Music Finland Oy
This is what Paula & Alec Burton (nves...@teleport.com) wrote:
>Every time I've gone into IRC chat rooms the people are talking like they are
>on the same level as my 12 year old child. Are their any adults on IRC that
>have real conversations? All the stupid slang and symbols are enough to drive
>a person crazy. I want to have normal conversations. Isn't their anyone else
>that feels the same way? If I see another :) again I swear I'll throw up!
Well, I don't see how :)'s ruin your IRC session, but I guess
it's another case of personal preference. I can tell you that unless you
learn to live with the smileys, you'd better start considering another
hobby... I doubt all the tens thousands of IRCers out there are willing
to change their typing habits because you want to toss your cookies.
To answer the actual question, though... yeah, there are mature
people on IRC, and yes, you can have good, meaningful and intelligent
conversations with them. Sadly, finding them can be a bit hard at times,
what with all the wanna-be elite dudes who tend to inhabit every major
IRC network... but they ARE out there, and usually finding them is well
worth the trouble. Keep looking.
- Mikki
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- Mikko Rautalahti --- "I judge a woman solely by the size and shape of -
- watc...@xgw.fi --- her nostrils." -- "Weird Al" Yankovic -
- WatchMan @ IRC ----------------------- http://www.xgw.fi/~watchman/ -
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Mike Drozdowski
Hugues-Antoine Suin <af...@club-internet.fr> wrote:
>Paula & Alec Burton wrote:
>>
>> Every time I've gone into IRC chat rooms the people are talking like they are
>> on the same level as my 12 year old child...
>
>I feel exactly the same.
I would say, for the most part, this is the truth. The useage of
grammar, punctuation, and spelling has declined greatly, maybe for the
reason that a lot of people are looking for "shortcuts". But do these
shortcuts make up for the seeming lack of intelligence?
This bird has flown, Kathleen...
(BTW, I am a fourteen year old, told by many that I sound at least in
my late teens, even twenties, when I am on IRC.)
abc...@usa.pipeline.com
On Jul 06, 1996 08:49:09 in article <Re: Everyone on Irc seems like their
12 years old>, 'watc...@xgw10.pal.xgw.fi (Mikko Rautalahti - Warner Music
Finland Oy)' wrote:
>This is what Paula & Alec Burton (nves...@teleport.com) wrote:
>>Every time I've gone into IRC chat rooms the people are talking like they
are
>
Read the above, and agree that most people sound like children
(and probably are) on many of the IRC groups. Anyone know of any good IRC
chat groups they might recommend? Or is there a way to get a list of same?
Marsha
--
abc...@usa.pipeline.com
Josh Woodward
Mike Drozdowski (md...@worldnet.att.net) wrote:
: I would say, for the most part, this is the truth. The useage of
: grammar, punctuation, and spelling has declined greatly,
The "useage"? :)
: reason that a lot of people are looking for "shortcuts". But do these
: shortcuts make up for the seeming lack of intelligence?
Not always. IRC differs from real life in that you're limited in how
fast you can type; in real life you can talk faster than you can think.
"Shortcuts" to a point help to compensate for that. For instance, when
I'm going to be away from the keyboard for a couple minutes, I say "brb".
It's understood by all my friends to mean "be right back". I'm not trying
to be "elite" by abbreviating things, I'm just speeding things up. As
for smiles, they help to compensate for another problem you encounter
when chatting via text. You can't see the reactions of the person you're
talking to. Well-used emoticons can give conversations more realism. And
I guess what it comes down to is if you don't like to see them, don't
use them.
: (BTW, I am a fourteen year old, told by many that I sound at least in
: my late teens, even twenties, when I am on IRC.)
Maturity isn't always based on age. I always try to judge a person by
who they really are as opposed to how they spell, or punctuate, etc. That's
one of my favorite things about IRC -- it's possible to really do that.
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J. Martin
> : Every time I've gone into IRC chat rooms the people are talking
> like they are
> : on the same level as my 12 year old child. Are their any adults on
> IRC that
> : have real conversations? All the stupid slang and symbols are
> enough to drive
> : a person crazy. I want to have normal conversations. Isn't their
> anyone else
> : that feels the same way? If I see another :) again I swear I'll
> throw up!
>
>
> For your next trick, please disappear.
>
> -Adam
>
> Opinions expressed are not necessarily those of Stanford Univerity.
> Finger for public key.
> PGP Fingerprint = C0 65 A2 BD 8A 67 B3 19 F9 8B C1 4C 8E F2 EA
> 0E:):):):):):):):):):):):):p~~~~~~~
> Quit whining
> ===========================================
> First off, decide what it is you want to talk about, then find a
> channel with a similar interest and go there. If you can't find a
> channel that suites you, make one. If this does'nt solve your problem,
> then I'd have to agree with the previous post and say quit whining
what else can you expect?
Melissa Adams
abc...@usa.pipeline.com(abc...@usa.pipeline.com) wrote:
>On Jul 06, 1996 08:49:09 in article <Re: Everyone on Irc seems like their
>12 years old>, 'watc...@xgw10.pal.xgw.fi (Mikko Rautalahti - Warner Music
>Finland Oy)' wrote:
>
>
>>This is what Paula & Alec Burton (nves...@teleport.com) wrote:
>>>Every time I've gone into IRC chat rooms the people are talking like they
>are
>>
>>>on the same level as my 12 year old child. Are their any adults on IRC
>that
>>>have real conversations? All the stupid slang and symbols are enough to
>drive
>>
>>>a person crazy. I want to have normal conversations. Isn't their anyone
>else
>>>that feels the same way? If I see another :) again I swear I'll throw up!
>>
>> Well, I don't see how :)'s ruin your IRC session, but I guess
>>it's another case of personal preference. I can tell you that unless you
>>learn to live with the smileys, you'd better start considering another
>>hobby... I doubt all the tens thousands of IRCers out there are willing
>>to change their typing habits because you want to toss your cookies.
>> To answer the actual question, though... yeah, there are mature
>>people on IRC, and yes, you can have good, meaningful and intelligent
>>conversations with them. Sadly, finding them can be a bit hard at times,
>>what with all the wanna-be elite dudes who tend to inhabit every major
>>IRC network... but they ARE out there, and usually finding them is well
>>worth the trouble. Keep looking.
>>
>> - Mikki
>>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>- Mikko Rautalahti --- "I judge a woman solely by the size and shape of
>-
>>- watc...@xgw.fi --- her nostrils." -- "Weird Al" Yankovic -
>>- WatchMan @ IRC ----------------------- http://www.xgw.fi/~watchman/ -
>
>---------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Read the above, and agree that most people sound like children
>(and probably are) on many of the IRC groups. Anyone know of any good IRC
>chat groups they might recommend? Or is there a way to get a list of same?
>
>
>Marsha
>
>--
>abc...@usa.pipeline.com
If you are looking for "normal" conversation, IRC is not the place to
find it.
Keith D. Tyler
Paula & Alec Burton (nves...@teleport.com) wrote:
: Every time I've gone into IRC chat rooms the people are talking like they are
: on the same level as my 12 year old child. Are their any adults on IRC that
: have real conversations? All the stupid slang and symbols are enough to drive
: a person crazy. I want to have normal conversations. Isn't their anyone else
: that feels the same way? If I see another :) again I swear I'll throw up!
Talking about being on a 12 year old level, if I see the word "they're"
misspelled again I swear I'll throw up, too.
--
"I know it's hard to prognosticate his future at this stage, but if he's
going to remain 0.4 gram and six-sided for the rest of his life, I'd say
euthanasia is our best bet." - Mark Leyner
Mal Hamilton-Warwick
In article <4rcncd$f...@nadine.teleport.com>, Paula & Alec Burton
<nves...@teleport.com> writes
>Every time I've gone into IRC chat rooms the people are talking like they are
>on the same level as my 12 year old child. Are their any adults on IRC that
>have real conversations? All the stupid slang and symbols are enough to drive
>a person crazy. I want to have normal conversations. Isn't their anyone else
>that feels the same way? If I see another :) again I swear I'll throw up!
>
I don't want to nit-pick, but shouldn't "their" above be "there"???
And in the subject box, "their" should be "they're".
As a very new user, it would be nice to speak to more "mature" people
occasionally, but the smileys don't worry me - I rather like them ;)
I found a channel called #42plus where I think everyone was over 42, but
when I expressed my delight at talking to an older age-group for a
change, everyone left! Was it something I said???
--
Mal Warwick >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> m...@ovi-iow.demon.co.uk
Mikko Rautalahti - Warner Music Finland Oy
This is what Keith D. Tyler (rom...@shore.net) wrote:
>Talking about being on a 12 year old level, if I see the word "they're"
>misspelled again I swear I'll throw up, too.
Yeah! Everyone should go home and read some books and learn to
spell so they don't have to have to be embarassed because of there bad
spelling!!!!
J. Martin
Melissa Adams wrote:
>
> abc...@usa.pipeline.com(abc...@usa.pipeline.com) wrote:
>
> >On Jul 06, 1996 08:49:09 in article <Re: Everyone on Irc seems like their
> >12 years old>, 'watc...@xgw10.pal.xgw.fi (Mikko Rautalahti - Warner Music
> >Finland Oy)' wrote:
> >
> >
> >>>Every time I've gone into IRC chat rooms the people are talking like they
> >are
> >>
> >>>on the same level as my 12 year old child. Are their any adults on IRC
> >that
> >drive
> >>
> >>>a person crazy. I want to have normal conversations. Isn't their anyone
> >else
>
> >>
> >> Well, I don't see how :)'s ruin your IRC session, but I guess
> >>it's another case of personal preference. I can tell you that unless you
> >>learn to live with the smileys, you'd better start considering another
> >>hobby... I doubt all the tens thousands of IRCers out there are willing
> >>to change their typing habits because you want to toss your cookies.
> >> To answer the actual question, though... yeah, there are mature
> >>people on IRC, and yes, you can have good, meaningful and intelligent
> >>conversations with them. Sadly, finding them can be a bit hard at times,
> >>what with all the wanna-be elite dudes who tend to inhabit every major
> >>IRC network... but they ARE out there, and usually finding them is well
> >>worth the trouble. Keep looking.
> >>
>
>>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>- Mikko Rautalahti --- "I judge a woman solely by the size and shape of
> >-
> >>- watc...@xgw.fi --- her nostrils." -- "Weird Al" Yankovic -
> >>- WatchMan @ IRC ----------------------- http://www.xgw.fi/~watchman/ -
> >
> >---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >(and probably are) on many of the IRC groups. Anyone know of any good IRC
> >chat groups they might recommend? Or is there a way to get a list of same?
> >
> >
> >Marsha
> >
> >--
> >abc...@usa.pipeline.com
>
> If you are looking for "normal" conversation, IRC is not the place to
J. Martin
Mikko Rautalahti - Warner Music Finland Oy wrote:
>
> This is what Keith D. Tyler (rom...@shore.net) wrote:
>
> >Talking about being on a 12 year old level, if I see the word "they're"
> >misspelled again I swear I'll throw up, too.
>
> Yeah! Everyone should go home and read some books and learn to
> spell so they don't have to have to be embarassed because of there bad
> spelling!!!!
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> - Mikko Rautalahti --- "I judge a woman solely by the size and shape of -
> - watc...@xgw.fi --- her nostrils." -- "Weird Al" Yankovic -
> - WatchMan @ IRC ----------------------- http://www.xgw.fi/~watchman/ -
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
Jack Zupan
: : Every time I've gone into IRC chat rooms the people are talking like they are
: : on the same level as my 12 year old child. Are their any adults on IRC that
: : have real conversations? All the stupid slang and symbols are enough to drive
: : a person crazy. I want to have normal conversations. Isn't their anyone else
: Talking about being on a 12 year old level, if I see the word "they're"
: misspelled again I swear I'll throw up, too.
Your (sic) going to need a lot of airsick bag's (sic).
- Jack
~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~
o/~ "Music is God's voice" )Jack Zupan
)j...@apk.net
- Brian Wilson - ) Keet (^,^)
Don Wallace Jr.
Mal Hamilton-Warwick <m...@ovi-iow.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>In article <4rcncd$f...@nadine.teleport.com>, Paula & Alec Burton
><nves...@teleport.com> writes
>>Every time I've gone into IRC chat rooms the people are talking like they are
>>on the same level as my 12 year old child. Are their any adults on IRC that
> ~~~~~
>>
>>have real conversations? All the stupid slang and symbols are enough to drive
>>a person crazy. I want to have normal conversations. Isn't their anyone else
> ~~~~~
>>that feels the same way? If I see another :) again I swear I'll throw up!
>>
>>Paula
>I don't want to nit-pick, but shouldn't "their" above be "there"???
>And in the subject box, "their" should be "they're".
>As a very new user, it would be nice to speak to more "mature" people
>occasionally, but the smileys don't worry me - I rather like them ;)
>I found a channel called #42plus where I think everyone was over 42, but
>when I expressed my delight at talking to an older age-group for a
>change, everyone left! Was it something I said???
>--
>Mal Warwick >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> m...@ovi-iow.demon.co.uk
A netsplit if they all left at once....;-)
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Ghengus Khan
abc...@usa.pipeline.com(abc...@usa.pipeline.com) wrote:
>
> Read the above, and agree that most people sound like children
> (and probably are) on many of the IRC groups. Anyone know of any good IRC
> chat groups they might recommend? Or is there a way to get a list of same?
>
Look for topics that seem mature, also the 30+ 40pluss indicate the
age groups that the chanell attracts.. As a side note: I have found
that Dalnet and Undernet seem to attract a little more of an adult
group.
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Matt Powell
nves...@teleport.com (Paula & Alec Burton) wrote:
>Every time I've gone into IRC chat rooms the people are talking like they are
>on the same level as my 12 year old child. Are their any adults on IRC that
>have real conversations? All the stupid slang and symbols are enough to drive
>a person crazy. I want to have normal conversations. Isn't their anyone else
>that feels the same way? If I see another :) again I swear I'll throw up!
>Paula
You don't understand do you. Smileys are not just some cutesie mark
like dotting a exclamation mark with a heart. Smileys are generally
used to denote sarcasm, something an idiot like you may not be able to
comprehend, where it might be taken seriously. The slang is usually
not that bad and is mostly limited to the shortening of words and the
removal of unimportant words. Sentences on IRC can be figured out very
easily unless your a moron.
By the way, I'm 14 not 12.
M.Warren.
>
> Paula & Alec Burton (nves...@teleport.com) said this stuff:
> : Every time I've gone into IRC chat rooms the people are talking
>like they are
> : on the same level as my 12 year old child. Are their any adults on
>IRC that
> : have real conversations? All the stupid slang and symbols are
>enough to drive
> : a person crazy. I want to have normal conversations. Isn't their
>anyone else
> : that feels the same way? If I see another :) again I swear I'll
>throw up!
>
>
> For your next trick, please disappear.
>
> -Adam
>
I only use iRC now and again these days..because of the reasons stated
above....Isnt it funny how people , when they are criticised, can't come
up with anything else except 'stop whining'. Why not admit it???..A lot
of IRC IS conducted on a 12 year old child level...thats not
whining..thats stating a truth...if you are into that then fair
enough..but a lot are not...ah..what the hell..noone will listen, they
just hurl abuse....
Mike W.
M.Warren.
>> > Read the above, and agree that most people sound like children
>> >(and probably are) on many of the IRC groups. Anyone know of any good IRC
>> >chat groups they might recommend? Or is there a way to get a list of same?
>> >
>> >
>> >Marsha
>> >
channel #cricket is normally civilised..altho you may find yourself
getting bored at the conversations if you dont like cricket!;)).
specialist channels I find ARE somewhat more civilised altho they to have
their share of children. ;))
Mike.
RadiX
In article <4rt625$v...@newton.cc.rl.ac.uk>,
"M.Warren." <md...@mailbox.cc.rl.ac.uk> wrote:
[long string of "he said..she said.. they said deleted]
>I only use iRC now and again these days..because of the reasons stated
>above....Isnt it funny how people , when they are criticised, can't come
> up with anything else except 'stop whining'. Why not admit it???..A lot
>of IRC IS conducted on a 12 year old child level...thats not
>whining..thats stating a truth...if you are into that then fair
>enough..but a lot are not...ah..what the hell..noone will listen, they
>just hurl abuse....
>Mike W.
The problem could be that these "12 year olds" get to hide behind
the anonymity of a "nick" (much like I'm doing..geez I love hypocrisy) and
think that gives them free reign to a)act like a "gangsta" b) act like
god's gift to the opposite sex c) act LIKE the opposite sex d) generally
be annoying in any and every way possible e) stand up on a pulpit and
preach to those unfortunate enough to know the /ignore command or f) type
in long lists using a) b) etc.
As for the complaints I read about spelling and grammar.. I'm an
english teacher and on irc I throw grammar out the window because the
POINT of IRC is NOT grammar, punctuation, and spelling, it is to
communicate (or to a) act like a gangsta, etc) and besides, either someone
keeps moving my keys around or I'm going dyslexic, but I keep making typos
and I'd like to be able to reply to someone before they fall alseep (or
get split which is more likely). Anyone that would be so petty as to
correct my spelling or grammar on irc needs to get a life (and believe me,
if I am in a position to tell you to get a life you REALLY need one).
There is a possible explanation.. the solution? There is none,
unless you start your own channel and kick/ban everyone that annoys you.
Then you can sit in your channel (all by yourself likely)and be safe from
them. But what do you do about these same people when you meet them in
real life? Well I would (if I had a real life) just learn to ignore them.
Or /ignore them. There are wonderful people on IRC and it is worth dealing
with the lamers to talk to them.
Don't give up. Keep looking.
RadiX
Connection Reset by Baseball Bat
Ed the Buck
In article <4rcncd$f...@nadine.teleport.com>, nves...@teleport.com (Paula
& Alec Burton) wrote:
>Every time I've gone into IRC chat rooms the people are talking like they are
>on the same level as my 12 year old child. Are their any adults on IRC that
>have real conversations? All the stupid slang and symbols are enough to drive
>a person crazy. I want to have normal conversations. Isn't their anyone else
>that feels the same way? If I see another :) again I swear I'll throw up!
Normal people talk to each other face to face. ALso many normal people
talk to each other on irc. However lots of people who are incapable of
adult interaction hide from the world by using irc.
The thing with irc is that it provides a hiding place for people who
cannot deal with other people. It provides a dream world where anyone you
talk to is exactly how you want them to be, because after 4lines of text
you automatically draw up an image of what someone islike. Then what ever
they say, it can be interpretted to suit the needs of the listener. The
number of people Ive observed falling in and out of love in the space of
500 typed words is mind boggling.
In short, irc is great for screwed up teenagers, The stupid slang and
irritating asci smileys provide them with an identity. The more behaviours
they can display that identify them as irc users, then the more part of a
group they feel.
There are some viable adults on irc, I some of my friends today, I met
through irc, however I would reccomend avoiding meeting irc people, as it
seems many are really hard work, extremnely dull and incapable of even
basic conversation.
As irc has grown enromously in the last coupe of years, I'm sure there are
more normal people out there, but I imagine they keep quiet amongst the
squabbling children and their *superdupersnugglehugs*
Ed
Patrick Cook
On Tue, 9 Jul 1996, RadiX wrote:
> In article <4rt625$v...@newton.cc.rl.ac.uk>,
> "M.Warren." <md...@mailbox.cc.rl.ac.uk> wrote:
> [long string of "he said..she said.. they said deleted]
>
> >I only use iRC now and again these days..because of the reasons stated
> >above....Isnt it funny how people , when they are criticised, can't come
> > up with anything else except 'stop whining'. Why not admit it???..A lot
> >of IRC IS conducted on a 12 year old child level...thats not
> >whining..thats stating a truth...if you are into that then fair
> >enough..but a lot are not...ah..what the hell..noone will listen, they
> >just hurl abuse....
> >Mike W.
>
> The problem could be that these "12 year olds" get to hide behind
> the anonymity of a "nick" (much like I'm doing..geez I love hypocrisy) and
> think that gives them free reign to a)act like a "gangsta" b) act like
> god's gift to the opposite sex c) act LIKE the opposite sex d) generally
> be annoying in any and every way possible e) stand up on a pulpit and
> preach to those unfortunate enough to know the /ignore command or f) type
> in long lists using a) b) etc.
And then there are those who think they are the channel "sponsors" by
(subtely saying) "And now a word from our sponsor" by advertising some
Web site or another channel that *THEY* think is "cool".
Not everyone thinks the same way OR has the same likes and dislikes. We
all have our own tastes.
> There is a possible explanation.. the solution? There is none,
> unless you start your own channel and kick/ban everyone that annoys you.
> Then you can sit in your channel (all by yourself likely)and be safe from
> them. But what do you do about these same people when you meet them in
> real life? Well I would (if I had a real life) just learn to ignore them.
> Or /ignore them. There are wonderful people on IRC and it is worth dealing
> with the lamers to talk to them.
Amen!! (oops....I meant agreed!!) :-)
> Connection Reset by Baseball Bat
Connection Reset by CTRL-X
Patrick
pc...@dimensional.com _Patrick on IRC
Adam Noel Harris
Ed the Buck (ejb...@area51.upsu.plym.ac.uk) said this stuff:
: Normal people talk to each other face to face. ALso many normal people
: talk to each other on irc. However lots of people who are incapable of
: adult interaction hide from the world by using irc.
: The thing with irc is that it provides a hiding place for people who
: cannot deal with other people. It provides a dream world where anyone you
: talk to is exactly how you want them to be, because after 4lines of text
: you automatically draw up an image of what someone islike. Then what ever
: they say, it can be interpretted to suit the needs of the listener. The
: number of people Ive observed falling in and out of love in the space of
: 500 typed words is mind boggling.
Clearly you have drawn up quite an image of such people!
: In short, irc is great for screwed up teenagers, The stupid slang and
: irritating asci smileys provide them with an identity.
Emoticons are how adults, who often are capable of emotions, communicate
those emotions through a medium otherwise devoid of them. There are a few
cold, calculated, unfeeling sociopaths on IRC who don't use emoticons. At
least, that's the image I like to draw up about them.
: The more behaviours they can display that identify them as irc users,
: then the more part of a group they feel.
The more competent they are at communicating through this novel medium,
the better they can relate to others.
: There are some viable adults on irc, I some of my friends today, I met
I'll have to chat with you guys sometimes. Would that be in #mensa or
#mentally-70plus?
: through irc, however I would reccomend avoiding meeting irc people, as it
: seems many are really hard work, extremnely dull and incapable of even
: basic conversation.
*yawn* Sorry, you were saying something?
: As irc has grown enromously in the last coupe of years, I'm sure there are
: more normal people out there, but I imagine they keep quiet amongst the
: squabbling children and their *superdupersnugglehugs*
I've met the normal people. They're called bots. They don't show
emotion. They don't show affection. And they don't reach out to meet
others.
Mikko Rautalahti - Warner Music Finland Oy
This is what Ed the Buck (ejb...@area51.upsu.plym.ac.uk) wrote:
>The thing with irc is that it provides a hiding place for people who
>cannot deal with other people. It provides a dream world where anyone you
>talk to is exactly how you want them to be, because after 4lines of text
>you automatically draw up an image of what someone islike. Then what ever
>they say, it can be interpretted to suit the needs of the listener. The
>number of people Ive observed falling in and out of love in the space of
>500 typed words is mind boggling.
Interesting. And how does posting to newsgroups for example
differ from this, or in fact using ANYTHING on the net that involves
interacting with other people? I mean, it's not like you know who's on
the other end of the line. In fact, since there are so many people who
post garbage, scams and flames to newsgroups, it's obvious that we can
make a generalization that most of the people who post to newsgroups are
brainless turds with no social grace whatsoever.
You do have a point, though... Yes, there are many people who
supposedly fall in love with others within a very short period of time.
Then again, there are people who do similarly stupid things in real life,
but I suppose that doesn't count.
>As irc has grown enromously in the last coupe of years, I'm sure there are
>more normal people out there, but I imagine they keep quiet amongst the
>squabbling children and their *superdupersnugglehugs*
This may come to you as a great surprise, but even some of the
people who do *superdupersnugglehugs*" can be capable of intelligent
conversation. You know, there are people who act like that in real life,
too. (And you thought it was somewhat annoying on IRC? You ain't seen
nothing yet...)
c. parker
>> Paula & Alec Burton (nves...@teleport.com) said this stuff:
[comments about conversations being on the same level as a 12 year old (and
all those damn emoticons) snipped]
>>>If I see another :) again I swear I'll throw up!
>>
>> :)
>>
>> For your next trick, please disappear.
>
>I only use iRC now and again these days..because of the reasons stated
>above....Isnt it funny how people , when they are criticised, can't come
> up with anything else except 'stop whining'. Why not admit it???..A lot
>of IRC IS conducted on a 12 year old child level...thats not
>whining..thats stating a truth...if you are into that then fair
>enough..but a lot are not...ah..what the hell..noone will listen, they
>just hurl abuse....
have you taken a look at the rest of the world recently? ever actually
thought about the plot of most movies being released? ever tried to get
something done in a beaurocracy (sp)? gotten into a conversation with the
cashier when you go to buy something? watched the response of someone who's
been insulted? driven on a busy highway?
face it... most of reality "is conducted on a 12 year old child level."
why is it so surprising that irc is the same way? it's run by the same ppl
that you run into every day irl.
it's not that difficult to find ppl who are *not* 12 (emotionally, physically,
or intellectually). if you find that the channel you're on isn't what you're
looking for, for whatever reason, then just bloody well leave and go to
another one. there's no need to whine about it.
deadman
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Warlock
In article <4rv0pq$h...@elaine20.Stanford.EDU>,
ad...@leland.Stanford.EDU (Adam Noel Harris) wrote:
>
>I've met the normal people. They're called bots. They don't show
>emotion. They don't show affection. And they don't reach out to meet
>others.
>
Some serve an excelent martini though :)
>-Adam
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nv94peed@klippan.se(Per Edman), 2:200/213.42
From: nv94...@klippan.se(Per Edman) (2:200/213.42)
In a message of 6 Jul 96; abc...@usa.pipeline.com wrote, Subject: Everyone on Irc seems like their 12 years old:
> Read the above, and agree that most people sound like children
> (and probably are) on many of the IRC groups. Anyone know of any good IRC
> chat groups they might recommend? Or is there a way to get a list of
> same?
> Marsha
Yeah well, if you don't think there's anyt possibility of a 12-year old person being able to hold a meaningful conversation you are missing a big part of the charm of the IRC.
BUT anyways, my solution to your problem is to look for channels by the names of #chat20+ or #chat30+ , that sort of thing. I think you could list channels with names like that, either by doing a seach using a wildcard and a age/+ solution which at least works from mIRC's list-dialog. I don't know if there is an actual syntax for it in ircd, so try out a few combos instead.
BUT if you REALLY wish go to where people act mature and old, then #depressed and #suicide (EF-net) are cute places. There conversation is on the gravest of levels. No smilies there, that's for certain.
/ Poeten
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nv94peed@klippan.se(Per Edman), 2:200/213.42
From: nv94...@klippan.se(Per Edman) (2:200/213.42)
In a message of 7 Jul 96; rom...@shore.net wrote, Subject: Everyone on Irc seems like their 12 years old:
> Paula & Alec Burton (nves...@teleport.com) wrote:
> : Every time I've gone into IRC chat rooms the people are talking like they
> are : on the same level as my 12 year old child. Are their any adults on IRC
> that : have real conversations? All the stupid slang and symbols are enough
> to drive : a person crazy. I want to have normal conversations. Isn't their
> anyone else : that feels the same way? If I see another :) again I swear
> I'll throw up!
> Talking about being on a 12 year old level, if I see the word "they're"
> misspelled again I swear I'll throw up, too.
/nagmode on
It's TWO words!
/nagmode off
(sorry, couldn't help it!)
/ Poeten
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Foundation of a party signals the dissolution of the movement.
nv94peed@klippan.se(Per Edman), 2:200/213.42
From: nv94...@klippan.se(Per Edman) (2:200/213.42)
In a message of 07 Jul 96; jay...@voyageronline.net wrote, Subject: Everyone on Irc seems like their 12 years old:
> From: "J. Martin"
>> If you are looking for "normal" conversation, IRC is not the place to
>> find it.
> How true, how true? IRC is a haven for kooks and kooks are not
> normal.
HALLELUJA!
Hey, buckwheat! Lemme tellya story:
The once was a guy named Pete. He was a kook. He had 99 normal friends, though, and they all went out walking together. Now, there comes this GORGEOUS gal, looks at these here 100 people, and she sez to PETE "wanna come over?" WHY PETE?! He had 99 normal ppl all around him, now WHY didn't this beautiful gal pick any of them?!
CUZ THEY'RE BORING.
Originality is VITAL.
Now go away, you make me sick.
/ Poeten
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Guywith Noname
In article <ejbuck-0907...@141.163.90.32>,
ejb...@area51.upsu.plym.ac.uk says...
>In short, irc is great for screwed up teenagers, The stupid slang and
>irritating asci smileys provide them with an identity.
>As irc has grown enromously in the last coupe of years, I'm sure there are
>more normal people out there, but I imagine they keep quiet amongst the
>squabbling children and their *superdupersnugglehugs*
>
>Ed
If there is one thing on this planet that actually does bring a smile to my
face, it is knowing that I have at least a good chance of seeing the
baby-boomers (example provided above, I would believe) fall into extinction.
(: :) (: :) -(: :)- |: :) (sorry. I have no *sig.)
*wave*
Steve Sobol
sp...@vertigo.dopamine.com (Guywith Noname) wrote:
>In article <ejbuck-0907...@141.163.90.32>,
>ejb...@area51.upsu.plym.ac.uk says...
>>In short, irc is great for screwed up teenagers, The stupid slang and
>>irritating asci smileys provide them with an identity.
>>As irc has grown enromously in the last coupe of years, I'm sure there are
>>more normal people out there, but I imagine they keep quiet amongst the
>>squabbling children and their *superdupersnugglehugs*
>If there is one thing on this planet that actually does bring a smile to my
>face, it is knowing that I have at least a good chance of seeing the
>baby-boomers (example provided above, I would believe) fall into extinction.
Although I'm 26 and this is going to sound extremely immature, I can't
resist saying it. He sounded like he needed to get laid :P
(sorry... won't do that again.)
:)
-Steve
>(: :) (: :) -(: :)- |: :) (sorry. I have no *sig.)
>*wave*
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Keith D. Tyler
Mikko Rautalahti - Warner Music Finland Oy (watc...@xgw10.pal.xgw.fi) wrote:
: This is what Keith D. Tyler (rom...@shore.net) wrote:
: >Talking about being on a 12 year old level, if I see the word "they're"
: >misspelled again I swear I'll throw up, too.
: spelling!!!!
Let me throw you the point again, and try not to miss it this time...
LJD
Recently (Tue, 02 Jul 96 19:53:39 GMT), nves...@teleport.com (Paula &
Alec Burton) did post unto the known world:
>Every time I've gone into IRC chat rooms the people are talking like they are
Since you say "chat rooms" rather than "channels" is it safe to assume
you cut your chat teeth on AOL? If so, it's interesting that you
think the IRC is immature, coming from an environment where immaturity
is generally prized above all else.
>on the same level as my 12 year old child. Are their any adults on IRC that
>have real conversations? All the stupid slang and symbols are enough to drive
Slang like IMHO and LOL and BRB and AFK? These shortcuts are to make
typing easier for both skilled and unskilled typists alike and
generally are used to make the conversations go faster, thus
increasing the efficiency of the bandwidth. Hardly an infantile goal.
Symbols such as :-) and :-( and :-[ ? A recognition of the fact that
emotions, facial expressions, tone of voice and hand gestures simply
do not carry well on a text based online media? You would rather, I
suppose, have us substitute "(This is a happy statement)" for :-) or
"(this is a sad statement)" for :-(. Again, a waste of bandwidth and
an additional burden for those who do not speed type, and an
impediment to conversation.
Historically, most of these abbreviations and symbols evolved on
computer systems connected together with 175 bits/sec lines, where a
qualified typist could easily outperform the network. They remain
with us as a mechanism to allow the typing impaired to join in text
conversations at reasonable speed. Instead of complaining about them,
why not learn what they mean and join in the conversations? Are you
so elite a keyboardist that you refuse to converse with those less
skilled than you?
>a person crazy. I want to have normal conversations. Isn't their anyone else
I always manage to find pleasant adult (as in grown-up, not as in porn
oriented) conversation when on the IRC. It depends on the channels
you visit. If you dive into #teenchat, expect chatting on a teen
level. If you want something a little more along adult lines, try
#30+ or some topic of general interest to you.
>that feels the same way? If I see another :) again I swear I'll throw up!
>Paula
Get the barf bag ready, here it comes -----> :-)
LJD