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Oct 31, 1994, 4:45:10 PM10/31/94
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All about alt.inventors:

(Copyright 1994 by siproj and may be reprinted for no cost
with written permission only by non-profit groups.)

Version 0.3 Last half of October 1994

1. Introduction

2. General overview

3. Main points of discussion.

4. Related Newsgroups to alt.inventors and how they relate.

5. Current FAQ Status

6. World Wide Web Resources for Inventors (Updated)

7. Patent Attorney's / Searchers e-mail directory (Updated)

8. Anything else?


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1. Introduction

This group is a focus center for those interested in all phases of
the invention process. After the proposal was posted, several
parties seem to have something positive to say about getting a
group started just for Inventors and those interested in Invention.

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2. General overview

This is for those inventors trying to buck the odds or wishing to
show prior art to stop patents from being misappropriated by nefarious
organizations doing things like patenting software techniques et. al.

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3. Main points of discussion.

The main points of discussion approved within alt.inventors:

A. To be a useful forum to get Inventors into a postive light.

B. To promote First to Invent support to protect the independent inventor.
Status of the Patent and Trademark Office (PTO) movements on this
subject will be monitored here as much as possible. Stay tuned!

C. To screen carefully list companies seeking outside technology and
outlining the procedures for submission to their organization.
Also a screen out list of NOT INVENTED HERE companies so that
those outfits do not waste your time with an approach to them!

D. To discuss techniques in researching, developing, filing, patenting $'s,
marketing, getting renewals etc.

E. To openly discuss prior art where applicable, especially in software.

F. To consider tools and tricks of the trade, e.g. stereolithography.

G. To locate competent counsel, searchers, associated services.

H. To locate Internet invention services and resources.

I. To announce at one's own risk their ideas for prior art declaration!
(this is a public forum and giving away your ideas in it may
affect your ability to file for and get approval of a patent
at all in the U.S. and foreign countries. Only do so if
the idea is to be placed into the public domain or your
patent advisor/attorney says so and you are willing to assume risk!)

J. To allow announcements of inventors filings being available for
license! Such Press Releases should be in an abstract form of
less than 2,000 characters per invention, lengthy items should
have pointers for ftp or e-mail requests to keep bandwidth
requirements down.

Patents being posted should pose little risk despite foreign first
to file regulation. The reasoning is that extensive efforts
already in progress by overseas organizations to monitor all
public disclosures made at the PTO exist anyway. Internet posts
mean little in contrast to such a concerted effort by those
foreign interests obtain leverage in the patent arena.

K. To hold announcements of meetings and conferences specifically
useful to inventors/innovators or those that wish to find
and pay them for their efforts!

L. To post filing forms templates or where to ftp them.

This of course is all subject to change because an astute inventor
is the delta force of an overworked word CHANGE!

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4. Related Newsgroups to alt.inventors and how they relate.

Related groups that may have material of interest and may
be likely to cross-post in certain instances, and definition
of what kind of messages should not be crossposted include:

alt.inventors only wants notices from this group of developments
no debates please!

comp.patents Discussing patents of computer technology.

alt.inventors only has interests in patents and trademarks
for singular inventions, no copyright or performance rights please!

misc.int-property Discussion of intellectual property rights.

alt.inventors leaves finger painting out of our discussions.

misc.creativity Promoting the use of creativity in all human

alt.inventors interest is with raising capital of all phases but
less interest in day-to-day operations environments, like transactions.
That may be important after the invention is being market then directly
read and post to that group and leave the barcodes for DOS etc. out.

misc.entrepreneurs Discussion on operating a business.


These groups may have helpful information, however crossposts
regarding patent/trademark law issues that directly apply to the
inventor are solicited exclusive to all other issues of law.

misc.legal Legalities and the ethics of law.
misc.legal.computing Discussing the legal climate of the computin
misc.legal.moderated All aspects of law. (Moderated)

Generally to broad when it includes everything from physics of magnets
but strays from the main idea to help inventors work through IDEAS!
Funding may be important, but only in the context of the invention
process. Methods that mean something to getting through a lab
situation that involves invention only are welcome!

sci.misc Short-lived discussions ... in the sciences
sci.research Research methods, funding, ethics, and ...

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5. Current FAQ Status

Yes but this will is being built to include as much interesting
and valuable information as possible.

World Wide Web Pages, FTP sites, Telnet search services are all
sought to include in an FAQ for alt.inventors.

Please e-mail them to sip...@rci.ripco.com with the subject
FAQ Submission alt.inventors, you will be credited unless
you do not want to be. Please state if your source, like if
it is from some other FAQ.

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6. World Wide Web Resources for Inventors

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These are World Wide Web locations of Interest to the Inventive:

The United States Patent and Trademark Office {USPTO}
http://www.uspto.gov

The Master page for Inventors found thus far on the net...
http://www.clas.ufl.edu/CLAS/Departments/Rewired/Re-WIRED.html

Inventor directions for success...
http://www.issi.com/misc/articles/Scenes.html

Library Invention???
http://is.rice.edu/~riddle/dl94.html

The Lego Home Page??? rec.toys.lego FAQ
http://legowww.itek.norut.no/faq/FAQ.html

A game called Nomic oriented towards Invention ->
http://www.cse.unsw.edu.au/~s2119737/nomic-faq.html

Ok, well this is an interesting system invented
for handling data remotely from satellites, general interest.
http://guinan.gsfc.nasa.gov/AIS.html

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7. Patent Attorney's / Searchers e-mail directory


The Patent Attorney's e-mail directory portion of the
alt.inventors FAQ is for informational purposes only to
help direct inventors to patent resources (such as counsel).

This is a pure list only, like a phone book, with the exception
that it allows inventors to locate resources more specific to
what they are doing (i.e. if someone invents a new type of
concrete then perhaps counsel with a materials physics background
will be more helpful than someone doing mostly software patents).

Abstracts of practices with more detail will be forthcoming.

Name e-mail some specialties (if any abbreviated)
snail mail address and phone/fax if available.
Follow the pattern set forth below please at the head
of the e-mail message for updates.

E-mail additions, comments, corrections and updates to:

sip...@rci.ripco.com


Note this list is growing!


G. Peter Albert, Jr. (patent attorney)
Greer, Burns & Crain, Ltd.
Sears Tower - Suite 8660 E-mail: pal...@interaccess.com
233 South Wacker Drive Phone: 312-993-0080
Chicago, IL 606060-6501 Fax: 312-993-0633


John B. Berryhill, Ph.D. (electrical engineering)
Patent Agent
Dann, Dorfman, Herrell, and Skillman E-mail: ber...@genie.slhs.udel.edu
1601 Market St., Suite 720
Philadelphia, PA 19103


Ronald Coslick (patents, licensing and franchising)
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110 North Peyton St. E-mail: cos...@unix1.circ.gwu.edu
Alexandria, Virginia 22314 Phone: 703-549-1521


Peter Gordon (registered patent agent)
Wolf, Greenfield & Sacks
600 Atlantic Ave. E-mail: pgo...@world.std.com
Boston, MA 02210 Phone: 617-720-3500
Fax: 617-720-2441


Carl Oppedahl (physics, electrical engineering, math, software)
Oppedahl & Larson (specializes in Intellectual Property Law)

E-mail: oppe...@patents.com

Marina T. Larson (technical in chemical and biological sciences)
Oppedahl & Larson (specializes in Intellectual Property Law)

E-mail: lar...@patents.com


John W. L. Ogilvie (Registered Patent Attorney, software expert)
Madson & Metcalf
170 South Main, #950 E-mail: m...@utw.com
Salt Lake City, Utah 84101 Phone: 801-537-1700
Fax: 801-537-1799

Carl E. Person (intellectual property, infringement litigator)
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325 W 45 Street E-mail: carl...@ix.netcom.com
Brighton, Ma. 02135 Phone: 212-307-4444
Fax: 212-307-0247


Steven G. Saunders, Esq. (support in start-up companies, no biotech)
121B Tremont Street E-mail: saun...@acs.bu.edu
Brighton, Ma. 02135 Phone: 617-783-5755
Fax: 617-562-1102


Total patent attorney @ e-mail count thus far = 9

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8. Anything else?

Well some system administrators may not have alt.inventors
on their system. Simply request it directly from them
in should be described as:

alt.inventors a discussion area for inventors, many areas!

This group is not intended for any other hierarchy for many
reasons, like it does not fit well anywhere else and the
suggestions for sci.* were lacking at best.

Well keep it up is the most common thing heard. Everyone
appreciates the technology we have today for the most part,
few wish to reward those that make it come true.

Suggestions other that persistence, uh watch out for the
sharks and snakes!

END of VERSION 0.03

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E-mail comments to:

sip...@rci.ripco.com

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Ed Bullister

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Nov 4, 1994, 12:53:13 PM11/4/94
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This may be straying from the subject of inventing to marketing, but I would
consider whether you want to use the company name "Ripco" in selling inventions.
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