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alexd
Apr 13, 2012, 4:24:59 PM4/13/12
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q (for it is he) wrote:
> What a DEAD group. Kinda sez something about the wireless
> community.
What exactly is 'the wireless community'? Give how widespread the use of
wireless is, it's about as meaningful as referring to 'the air-breathing
community' or 'the able to dress self in morning community'.
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> What a DEAD group. Kinda sez something about the wireless
> community.
What exactly is 'the wireless community'? Give how widespread the use of
wireless is, it's about as meaningful as referring to 'the air-breathing
community' or 'the able to dress self in morning community'.
--
<http://ale.cx/> (AIM:troffasky) (UnSoEs...@ale.cx)
21:21:41 up 92 days, 23:52, 5 users, load average: 0.11, 0.13, 0.19
Qua illic est reprehendit, illic est a vindicatum
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Jeff Liebermann
Apr 21, 2012, 8:45:11 PM4/21/12
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On Sat, 21 Apr 2012 22:29:56 +0000 (UTC), who <w...@where.org> wrote:
>alexd <trof...@hotmail.com> wrote in
>news:1416647.g...@ale.cx:
>"wireless community" -meant to mean the community that
>inhabits AIW. Liebermann was one of the few contributors to
>this group but he was too worried about being labeled
>hacker friendly (might lose his commissions?).
>(this is not a multipost)
Ah, my favorite topic... me.
That's fairly close. I was worried about posting internal info
derived from work done by my former clients. However, that's no
longer a problem, as I haven't done much consulting for many years. I
don't think they would take too kindly to me providing exploits and
vulnerability details for their products.
The lack of traffic in this newsgroup can mean many things:
- All the important questions have been answered.
- The GUM (great unwashed masses) learned how wireless works.
- Everyone is reading the FAQ.
- Much of the products offered actually work.
- Other forums or newsgroups have taken over answering questions.
- Manufacturers tech support has finally become functional.
- Those with a clue didn't derive sufficient revenue or entertainment
value from the newsgroup.
- Wireless is no longer fun.
- NBC (NoBody Cares).
I suspect the last as the most likely. At this time, I'm keeping
myself entertained posting comments on HD Radio, a topic on which I
know nothing. Also in other newsgroups, with topics on which I know
even less. As always, you have only to ask an intelligent question,
and I will do the absolute minimum to provide a suitable answer.
However, a thread, started by an obvious troll, is really scraping
bottom.
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150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
>alexd <trof...@hotmail.com> wrote in
>news:1416647.g...@ale.cx:
>"wireless community" -meant to mean the community that
>inhabits AIW. Liebermann was one of the few contributors to
>this group but he was too worried about being labeled
>hacker friendly (might lose his commissions?).
>(this is not a multipost)
Ah, my favorite topic... me.
That's fairly close. I was worried about posting internal info
derived from work done by my former clients. However, that's no
longer a problem, as I haven't done much consulting for many years. I
don't think they would take too kindly to me providing exploits and
vulnerability details for their products.
The lack of traffic in this newsgroup can mean many things:
- All the important questions have been answered.
- The GUM (great unwashed masses) learned how wireless works.
- Everyone is reading the FAQ.
- Much of the products offered actually work.
- Other forums or newsgroups have taken over answering questions.
- Manufacturers tech support has finally become functional.
- Those with a clue didn't derive sufficient revenue or entertainment
value from the newsgroup.
- Wireless is no longer fun.
- NBC (NoBody Cares).
I suspect the last as the most likely. At this time, I'm keeping
myself entertained posting comments on HD Radio, a topic on which I
know nothing. Also in other newsgroups, with topics on which I know
even less. As always, you have only to ask an intelligent question,
and I will do the absolute minimum to provide a suitable answer.
However, a thread, started by an obvious troll, is really scraping
bottom.
--
Jeff Liebermann je...@cruzio.com
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
miso
Apr 22, 2012, 12:10:33 AM4/22/12
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Seems to me people should be playing with 5.8G, designing dual band
directional arrays, etc. There is plenty of hacking to be done.
directional arrays, etc. There is plenty of hacking to be done.
Jeff Liebermann
Apr 22, 2012, 1:33:12 AM4/22/12
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On Sat, 21 Apr 2012 21:10:33 -0700, miso <mi...@sushi.com> wrote:
>Seems to me people should be playing with 5.8G, designing dual band
>directional arrays, etc. There is plenty of hacking to be done.
The real action is on the unlicensed 24GHz and 60GHz bands.
>Seems to me people should be playing with 5.8G, designing dual band
>directional arrays, etc. There is plenty of hacking to be done.
24GHz for point to point backhaul. 60GHz is for wireless video.
Visualize a laptop with a removable display that can act as a tablet.
The video between the laptop (keyboard) section and the display will
go via 60GHz. Unfortunately, there are competing technologies, which
are likely to cause compatibility issues:
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WirelessHD>
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wireless_Gigabit_Alliance>
Google for "wireless HDMI" for products you can actually buy.
Now, if I could only afford test equipment that goes up to 60GHz.
Moe Trin
Apr 22, 2012, 6:21:05 PM4/22/12
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On Sat, 21 Apr 2012, in the Usenet newsgroup alt.internet.wireless, in article
<67k6p7990q44uugdv...@4ax.com>, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>who <w...@where.org> wrote:
>> Liebermann was one of the few contributors to this group but he
>> was too worried about being labeled hacker friendly (might lose his
>> commissions?).
>That's fairly close. I was worried about posting internal info
>derived from work done by my former clients. However, that's no
>longer a problem, as I haven't done much consulting for many years. I
>don't think they would take too kindly to me providing exploits and
>vulnerability details for their products.
So you're not reading rec.humor.funny.reruns any more? Last Sunday,
they reposted "Computer Nightmares" from July 1994 again. If you're
not subscribed, look back about 8 article numbers from "now".
] Support, Santa Cruz Style or Where Do These People Come From?
Funny thing is, none of those items look "unusual"
>The lack of traffic in this newsgroup can mean many things:
[list of probable reasons]
- My ISP dropped Usenet from their included services.
>At this time, I'm keeping myself entertained posting comments on HD
>Radio, a topic on which I know nothing.
"Pay Radio" - what a concept.
Old guy
<67k6p7990q44uugdv...@4ax.com>, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>who <w...@where.org> wrote:
>> Liebermann was one of the few contributors to this group but he
>> was too worried about being labeled hacker friendly (might lose his
>> commissions?).
>Ah, my favorite topic... me.
Not saying a word
>That's fairly close. I was worried about posting internal info
>derived from work done by my former clients. However, that's no
>longer a problem, as I haven't done much consulting for many years. I
>don't think they would take too kindly to me providing exploits and
>vulnerability details for their products.
they reposted "Computer Nightmares" from July 1994 again. If you're
not subscribed, look back about 8 article numbers from "now".
] Support, Santa Cruz Style or Where Do These People Come From?
Funny thing is, none of those items look "unusual"
>The lack of traffic in this newsgroup can mean many things:
- My ISP dropped Usenet from their included services.
>At this time, I'm keeping myself entertained posting comments on HD
>Radio, a topic on which I know nothing.
Old guy
Jeff Liebermann
Apr 22, 2012, 10:01:38 PM4/22/12
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On Sun, 22 Apr 2012 17:21:05 -0500, Moe Trin
<ibup...@painkiller.example.tld.invalid> wrote:
>So you're not reading rec.humor.funny.reruns any more? Last Sunday,
>they reposted "Computer Nightmares" from July 1994 again. If you're
>not subscribed, look back about 8 article numbers from "now".
>
>] Support, Santa Cruz Style or Where Do These People Come From?
Yep, that was one of mine. I didn't submit it to Brad Templeton, who
<ibup...@painkiller.example.tld.invalid> wrote:
>So you're not reading rec.humor.funny.reruns any more? Last Sunday,
>they reposted "Computer Nightmares" from July 1994 again. If you're
>not subscribed, look back about 8 article numbers from "now".
>
>] Support, Santa Cruz Style or Where Do These People Come From?
was running the newsgroup at the time. One of my friends had to do it
for me. However, that's not my best. I like this one:
<http://groups.google.com/group/comp.unix.sco.misc/msg/ccef57b1a28ed0fd>
even though I did make some mistakes.
>Funny thing is, none of those items look "unusual"
survivable. However, it did give a fair indication of trouble to
come, as the GUM (great unwashed masses) discover computers. I
originally wrote that for a local newspaper columnist, who needed some
filler for her "high tech" column.
>>The lack of traffic in this newsgroup can mean many things:
>
>[list of probable reasons]
>
>- My ISP dropped Usenet from their included services.
advertising). However, there are plenty of cheap and free Usenet
service providers. I'm on Supernews (Giganews) for text only groups
at about $5/month.
>>At this time, I'm keeping myself entertained posting comments on HD
>>Radio, a topic on which I know nothing.
>
>"Pay Radio" - what a concept.
miso
Apr 22, 2012, 10:38:47 PM4/22/12
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stations stream their HD, so you can hear it on your computer or smart
phone. Not that you want to hear it.
The real problem with HD is they stole the old broadcast guardbands. So
you get QRM at times. It won't demod on FM, so you just wonder why you
lost a station that used to work. The HD signal blots out your DX
signal. On AM, it sounds like hiss.
Much like internet over power lines, I filed my compliant with the FCC
when HD was introduced. The FCC is no longer an engineering
organization. They sell spectrum and police exposed breasts.
Warren Oates
Apr 23, 2012, 8:06:11 AM4/23/12
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In article <6pc9p7h65kovgrifa...@4ax.com>,
Astraweb is mostly for people who want massive and fast binary
downloads, and I never use the binary groups at all. So I sent Astraweb
a cheque for $25 which gave me some massive giga-amount of download
which I'll never use in the text groups I frequent. That was, I dunno, 8
or maybe 9 years ago I think; that's what, less than $3/year. It'll be
good until I'm too old and grey to continue. I still have enough gigas
left to download the occasional spanking video, should the impulse take
me. Astraweb is fast and carries everything.
I also occasionally use news.mixmin.net, which is free, carries only
text groups, but has the stigma of being a bit anonymous.
--
... do not cover a warm kettle or your stock may sour. -- Julia Child
Jeff Liebermann <je...@cruzio.com> wrote:
> Most ISP's have dropped Usenet. There's no revenue in Usenet (no
> advertising). However, there are plenty of cheap and free Usenet
> service providers. I'm on Supernews (Giganews) for text only groups
> at about $5/month.
When my ISP dropped Usenet, I got an account with Astraweb. Now,
> Most ISP's have dropped Usenet. There's no revenue in Usenet (no
> advertising). However, there are plenty of cheap and free Usenet
> service providers. I'm on Supernews (Giganews) for text only groups
> at about $5/month.
Astraweb is mostly for people who want massive and fast binary
downloads, and I never use the binary groups at all. So I sent Astraweb
a cheque for $25 which gave me some massive giga-amount of download
which I'll never use in the text groups I frequent. That was, I dunno, 8
or maybe 9 years ago I think; that's what, less than $3/year. It'll be
good until I'm too old and grey to continue. I still have enough gigas
left to download the occasional spanking video, should the impulse take
me. Astraweb is fast and carries everything.
I also occasionally use news.mixmin.net, which is free, carries only
text groups, but has the stigma of being a bit anonymous.
--
... do not cover a warm kettle or your stock may sour. -- Julia Child
Moe Trin
Apr 23, 2012, 11:47:59 PM4/23/12
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On Sun, 22 Apr 2012, in the Usenet newsgroup alt.internet.wireless, in article
<6pc9p7h65kovgrifa...@4ax.com>, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>Moe Trin <ibup...@painkiller.example.tld.invalid> wrote:
>> So you're not reading rec.humor.funny.reruns any more? Last Sunday,
>> they reposted "Computer Nightmares" from July 1994 again.
<6pc9p7h65kovgrifa...@4ax.com>, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>Moe Trin <ibup...@painkiller.example.tld.invalid> wrote:
>> So you're not reading rec.humor.funny.reruns any more? Last Sunday,
>> they reposted "Computer Nightmares" from July 1994 again.
>Yep, that was one of mine. I didn't submit it to Brad Templeton, who
>was running the newsgroup at the time. One of my friends had to do it
>for me. However, that's not my best. I like this one:
: As a Christian user I don't wanna have to do anything with Satan
>was running the newsgroup at the time. One of my friends had to do it
>for me. However, that's not my best. I like this one:
: and his daemons. Is the only alternative for me Windows NT ?
I'm afraid that all platorms have daemons running somewhere.
Awfully late for April first - but I have to laugh at people who
confuse daemons and demons. There's another one that pops up on
rec.humor.funny.reruns occasionally - try
<http://www.netfunny.com/rhf/jokes/new89/satan.773.html>
>> Funny thing is, none of those items look "unusual"
>They weren't really unusual. Most were quite common and easily
>survivable.
>However, it did give a fair indication of trouble to come, as the GUM
>(great unwashed masses) discover computers. I originally wrote that
>for a local newspaper columnist, who needed some filler for her "high
>tech" column.
yet those looked similar to what I had to deal with.
>>"Pay Radio" - what a concept.
>Oh-oh. You've been reading my drivel.
radio service. They still can't believe that I wouldn't jump at the
chance to renew the service agreement.
Old guy
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