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I don't want no stinkin' ethernet

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Lindy

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Oct 4, 2002, 1:01:18 PM10/4/02
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I currently have 802.11b wireless internet access to my house. I have
a 24inch antenna connected to a pigtail connected to my PCMCIA
wireless card in my computer. I want to set up a wireless network in
my house but can't see an alternative to setting up a gateway that is
connected to an access point via ethernet. My goal is to have various
wireless network components spread throughout the house.

Is there any product that will take a wireless signal from an WISP
(wireless ISP)and allow me to create a wireless home network without
having to go from wireless to ethernet to wireless?

I'm hoping that there is a simple solution that I just hadn't
considered but I'm new enough to networks that I'm not even sure if
I'm using the right terminology to describe what I'm trying to do.

Hal Sadofsky

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Oct 4, 2002, 2:55:43 PM10/4/02
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mark.l...@magnoliaroad.net (Lindy) writes:

If I understand correctly, the following should work. Get two APs
(e.g. the Linksys WAP 11, which I'm familiar with, but don't
necessarily recommend). Connect one to your antenna. Connect it by
ethernet to your LAN, or to the other WAP 11.

(Before doing this, make sure you give the WAP 11's different IP numbers, and
you may need to set the one for your house to a different channel than
the one for your WISP - different by at least 5).

Then you should be able to connect to the house WAP 11 via a card, and
the other WAP 11 should connect to your WISP.

All of this assumes (probably incorrectly) that you don't need any special
software or passwords to connect to your WISP.

Hal

Don Widders

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Oct 4, 2002, 3:08:10 PM10/4/02
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"Lindy" <mark.l...@magnoliaroad.net> wrote in message
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The access point is really the simple solution for which you're looking.
Why is it a problem to interconnect devices with Ethernet?

Does your ISP allow multiple simultaneous connections? If so, you could put
a 24 inch antenna on every system. If not, then you need an Ethernet client
adapter for the 24 inch antenna. Connect the Ethernet client via Ethernet
to a wireless router.

An alternate plan would be to continue using the antenna and wireless card
in your computer as you have it now and use Internet Connection Sharing or
some other proxy software to share the wireless connection with an Ethernet
connection on your computer. Then connect the access point to the Ethernet
connection on your computer.

Don W.


John Roland Elliott

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Oct 4, 2002, 3:24:01 PM10/4/02
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How come you don't want no stinkin' ... never mind ... none of my business.

I can't do a complete ether-nectomy for you but if you connect the two foot
dish to a WET11 plugged in (using a crossover cat5 cable) to the WAN port of
a BEFW11S4, you'll have a very-nearly-ethernet-less setup. The BEFW11S4 will
provide the private wireless LAN for your property and it will use the WET11
and its dish to get to the internet.

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Leonid Rosenboim

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Oct 4, 2002, 3:24:25 PM10/4/02
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Although simplicity is mighty important, you need to think
about the safety of your home devices too - better safe than sorry ?!

Therefore my recommendation would be to use this setup:

A wireless PC-card to Ethernet converted with a PCMCIA WiFi card inserted
and connected to the same antenna
A broadband router, which has a NAT and basic firewall in it
A a number of APs appropriate to the size of your house, if the house is
small
enough and is built with sufficiently "radio transparent" material, one AP
could
be enough, and you might consider buying an integrater router+AP
(although many have recommended agaist those on this list, the integrated
unit does add simplicity).

Just my 3 cents.


John Roland Elliott

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Oct 4, 2002, 3:34:21 PM10/4/02
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Lindy, DonW is on to something here. For a completely ether-free
installation, install a second wireless NIC into your computer and run
Internet Connection Sharing either 1) on an ad-hoc wireless network or 2) on
an infrastructure network using an AP with nothing connected to its ethernet
side. The second NIC can be either another PCMCIA (if you can fit it and if
the two will still work that close together), a USB, or a WET11 connected to
the ethernet port of your PC with a crossover cat5. (Of course that last one
has some yucky ethernet.) Be careful on that last possibility. I don't think
you'll be able to use a WAP11 in client mode rather than the WET11. I don't
think it will connect to anything but WAP11 in AP mode.

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Lindy

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Oct 4, 2002, 5:51:33 PM10/4/02
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Hal Sadofsky <sado...@darkwing.uoregon.edu> wrote in message news:<pl9zntu...@darkwing.uoregon.edu>...

Can you attach an external antenna to the WAP 11? What kind of
connector is required? I'm currently using an "N" connector from the
antenna cable to the pigtail.

Why don't you "necessarily recommend" the WAP 11?

Mark

Don Widders

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Oct 4, 2002, 9:02:26 PM10/4/02
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"Lindy" <mark.l...@magnoliaroad.net> wrote in message
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The WAP11 uses reverse polarity TNC connectors. TNC to N cables are readily
available from many sources. Try here:
http://www.tlab.net/~jungmann/UCCS/main.htm

Don W.


Hal Sadofsky

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Oct 5, 2002, 1:29:46 AM10/5/02
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mark.l...@magnoliaroad.net (Lindy) writes:

You can. You need (for the WAP 11) a RP TNC connector. Various
people sell cables to connect WAP 11s to antennas that need N
connectors. For example, www.hdcom.com.

> Why don't you "necessarily recommend" the WAP 11?

People have had a lot of problems with them. I've had fewer than some,
but I've had some too. And I haven't been thrilled with tech support.
You might google this group for WAP11s and see what people have said.

Hal

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