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Singular and Plural -- Do I Need Both In <title ... /title> Statement?

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Nhmiller

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Feb 22, 2004, 12:11:53 PM2/22/04
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I have heard that the title statement is very important to search engines.
Searchers interested in our product could enter "cat" or "cats." Do I just need
the word "cats" in the title rather than including both words, so that if
someone enters the search term "cat," the letters c-a-t in "cats" will be
highlighted? I saw on one site that analyzes search terms that singulars and
plurals are considered duplicates.

Example of what I'm talking about --

If I want to cover all possibilities, I could use:
<title>Cat Art Paintings Prints / Painting Print Cats Artists / Fine Artist
Carol Wilson</title>
But that may get truncated in the search engine titles.

Would I be just as well off using:
<title>Cats Art Paintings / Fine Prints Artists / Carol Wilson</title>
which eliminates the singulars?

Neil
Cat Paintings At Carol Wilson Gallery
http://www.carolwilsongallery.com

Nhmiller

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Feb 22, 2004, 12:35:10 PM2/22/04
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I have heard that the title statement is very important to search engines.
Searchers interested in our product could enter "cat" or "cats." Do I just need
the word "cats" in the title rather than including both words, so that if
someone enters the search term "cat," the letters c-a-t in "cats" will be
highlighted? The big question is, Will using only "cats" get the same ranking
as using both words in the Title statement?

I saw on one site that analyzes search terms that singulars and plurals are

considered duplicates, but that was for keywords in the meta statement. I have
seen part of a word highlighted in search engine listings, so I know this is
occurring to some degree.

Example of what I'm talking about --

If I want to cover all possibilities, I could use:
<title>Cat Art Paintings Prints / Painting Print Cats Artists / Fine Artist
Carol Wilson</title>
But that may get truncated in the search engine titles.

Would I be just as well off using:
<title>Cats Art Paintings / Fine Prints Artists / Carol Wilson</title>

which eliminates the singulars.

David Off

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Feb 22, 2004, 1:07:10 PM2/22/04
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Nhmiller wrote:
> I have heard that the title statement is very important to search engines.

Yes but it is not the only thing.

> Searchers interested in our product could enter "cat" or "cats."

If you are talking about Google, it currently treats the words
differently. Rather than contrive title pages like this:

> <title>Cat Art Paintings Prints / Painting Print Cats Artists / Fine Artist
> Carol Wilson</title>

I would have multiple pages targetting different terms but try to keep
them to just a few words. Good luck, it is a very competitive area...
especially if you include "pussy" as well!

Nhmiller

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Feb 22, 2004, 2:50:25 PM2/22/04
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>If I want to cover all possibilities, I could use:
><title>Cat Art Paintings Prints / Painting Print Cats Artists / Fine Artist
>Carol Wilson</title>
>But that may get truncated in the search engine titles.

Also, does anyone know how many characters the search engines use from the
title? I assume they must truncate at same point.

Eric Johnston

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Feb 22, 2004, 5:53:19 PM2/22/04
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"Nhmiller" <nhmi...@aol.comnojunk> wrote in message
news:20040222123510...@mb-m27.aol.com...

The title also need to be attractive to the human reader
I suggest
<title>Cat paintings by fine artist Carol Wilson - Prints for sale</title>
You should not put a capital as the first letter of every word. It is bad
grammer.

<meta name="description"
content="Carol Wilson is a leading award winning cat artist, known for
inventive representations of typical feline situations and fanciful
humanized depictions. Her realistic paintings are offered as limited edition
prints, notecards, and magnetized prints.">
OK

<meta name="keywords"
content="cat paintings,Carol Wilson,cat,cats,artist,cat artist,cat and 22
lines of spam, spam, spam........
This is not good. Google is said to ignore keywords. But, follow common
sense rules - just put in the top few words that matter and they must come
from the body text on the page. I suggest 7 different words.
It is possible that what you have done counts against you - like minus
points. Google may have marked you down since, despite its assumed ignoring
of the meaning of the keywords, it does (in my guess) record the total
number of text words and what you have done is to seriously dilute the words
on the page.

Best regards, Eric.


seo yonnermark

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Feb 22, 2004, 6:02:33 PM2/22/04
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Nhmiller wrote:

> Also, does anyone know how many characters the search engines use
> from the title? I assume they must truncate at same point.

go to www.google.com
search for a while until you see a truncated title. there's your answer


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