Adding a search to a site
TalaGuy
I wanted to add a site search to the site I just designed-a search that
gives up to date results. So adding Google for free
(http://www.google.com/searchcode.html#both) is out, since it will only
search on what it cached last time it crawled. Any recommendations for a
simple method of adding a site search to my site? My site is designed in
.asp.
Thanks,
William Tasso
> ... Any
> recommendations for a simple method of adding a site search to my
> site? My site is designed in .asp.
>
index server
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Graham
You could use a PPC search engine with affiliates program such as the one in my
sig.
:)
Search Engine & Message Board :-
http://www.12noon.net
http://www.12noon.net/forum
....also....
http://www.gtmobiles.co.uk
Sparky
internetional search engines.
If your user types 'hotel' for example they will be presented with a list of
search engines to find hotels.
Get the code from http://www.searchenginelinks.co.uk/linktous/index.html
"TalaGuy" <blai...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Mark Parnell
> "TalaGuy" <blai...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:vfi9h7q...@corp.supernews.com...
>> Hi:
>> I wanted to add a site search to the site I just designed-a search
>> that gives up to date results. So adding Google for free
>> (http://www.google.com/searchcode.html#both) is out, since it will
>> only search on what it cached last time it crawled. Any
>> recommendations for a simple method of adding a site search to my
>> site? My site is designed in .asp.
>>
> Feel free to add my search box to your site. It will search a vast
> index of internetional search engines.
> If your user types 'hotel' for example they will be presented with a
> list of search engines to find hotels.
> Get the code from
> http://www.searchenginelinks.co.uk/linktous/index.html
>
The OP was looking for a way for visitors to search *within* his site, not a
general search from on his site.
BTW:
How am I supposed to post my replies in a newsgroup?:
http://allmyfaqs.com/faq.pl?How_to_post
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catherine yronwode
I highly recommend atomz.com.
• Their site-specific search engine is free if you have 500
pages or less, and moderately priced for more pages, on a
tiered pricing structure.
• You can set your own form of search "look" from very
simple (just the word "search" with you selecting a default
setting from "exact match" or ""any word" or "all words")
to highly intricate layouts including many search terms --
including the ability to search date ranges by day and month
(good for ezines); boolean seach is supported, of course.
• You can weight subsidiary portions of your web pages so
that when the keyword results are returned to the party
making the search, the things you want viewers to see willl
have most weight and will rise to the top of the search
results. Weighting is on a 0 - 10 scale. Elements that can
be weighted include title, file name, metatags, body copy,
etc. Using the weighting system, you can actually
approximates google ranking for the same pages -- or produce
results skewed in another direction, if that serves you
better.
• You can re-index by hand any time you wish or set your
reindexing to an automated schedule.
• You receive a weekly report via email listing the number
of searches conducted and the top-ten search terms used at
your site -- and from that email you can click a link to a
web page that displays the entire log of search requests for
that week, if you wish.
• On the pay-for-use version you can also customize the look
and feel of the results page (e.g. with your logo instead of
the atomz.com logo).
• The people at atomz.com are responsive, efficient, and
friendly.
• I have used their service for several years now and would
not change under any circumstances. If you contact them, you
can use my name as a reference. I am not connected to their
company in any way, but i think they are providing a useful
service that is loaded with exemplary features and i wish to
see them succeed.
cat yronwode
Lucky Mojo Curio Co. http://www.luckymojo.com
Big Bill
<c...@luckymojo.com> wrote:
>TalaGuy wrote:
>>
>> Hi:
>> I wanted to add a site search to the site I just designed-a search that
>> gives up to date results. So adding Google for free
>> (http://www.google.com/searchcode.html#both) is out, since it will only
>> search on what it cached last time it crawled. Any recommendations for a
>> simple method of adding a site search to my site? My site is designed in
>> .asp.
>>
>> Thanks,
>
>I highly recommend atomz.com.
so do I The reports can be very useful.
BB
MFW Britpack www.extreme-positioning.co.uk
There is only one war, and it's not the rich against the poor,
the blacks against the whites, the Federation against the Borg,
or the Democrats versus the Republicans. It's those of us who
aren't complete idiots against those of us who are.
Simon Gibson
I find the most cost effective way to add a search facility to your
Intranet or Web site is to use Microsoft's Index Server. This won't
cost you anything as it's included with their server software.
Simply create a catalog for your site. You can follow the 10 steps in
my tutorial here if you like:
http://www.simongibson.com/intranet/indexserv/indexserv.html
And then create an asp search page to add to your site. If you don't
fancy writing one yourself, you can purchase one from my site for
US$25:
http://www.simongibson.com/intranet/indxscpt/indxscpt.html
That's pretty much it, a fully functional search engine for your
Intranet or Web Site for 25 bucks.
Hope this helps,
Simon Gibson
http://www.simongibson.com
Big Bill <kr...@cityscape.co.uk> wrote in message news:<1vkofvgdjpov1kuga...@4ax.com>...
> On Thu, 26 Jun 2003 20:45:53 GMT, catherine yronwode
> <c...@luckymojo.com> wrote:
>
> >TalaGuy wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi:
> >> I wanted to add a site search to the site I just designed-a search that
> >> gives up to date results. So adding Google for free
> >> (http://www.google.com/searchcode.html#both) is out, since it will only
> >> search on what it cached last time it crawled. Any recommendations for a
> >> simple method of adding a site search to my site? My site is designed in
> >> .asp.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >
> >I highly recommend atomz.com.
>
> so do I The reports can be very useful.
>
> BB
>
> >? Their site-specific search engine is free if you have 500
> >pages or less, and moderately priced for more pages, on a
> >tiered pricing structure.
> >
> >? You can set your own form of search "look" from very
> >simple (just the word "search" with you selecting a default
> >setting from "exact match" or ""any word" or "all words")
> >to highly intricate layouts including many search terms --
> >including the ability to search date ranges by day and month
> >(good for ezines); boolean seach is supported, of course.
> >
> >? You can weight subsidiary portions of your web pages so
> >that when the keyword results are returned to the party
> >making the search, the things you want viewers to see willl
> >have most weight and will rise to the top of the search
> >results. Weighting is on a 0 - 10 scale. Elements that can
> >be weighted include title, file name, metatags, body copy,
> >etc. Using the weighting system, you can actually
> >approximates google ranking for the same pages -- or produce
> >results skewed in another direction, if that serves you
> >better.
> >
> >? You can re-index by hand any time you wish or set your
> >reindexing to an automated schedule.
> >
> >? You receive a weekly report via email listing the number
> >of searches conducted and the top-ten search terms used at
> >your site -- and from that email you can click a link to a
> >web page that displays the entire log of search requests for
> >that week, if you wish.
> >
> >? On the pay-for-use version you can also customize the look
> >and feel of the results page (e.g. with your logo instead of
> >the atomz.com logo).
> >
> >? The people at atomz.com are responsive, efficient, and
> >friendly.
> >
> >? I have used their service for several years now and would
Titus A Ducksass
wrote:
>Hi all,
>
>I find the most cost effective way to add a search facility to your
>Intranet or Web site is to use Microsoft's Index Server. This won't
>cost you anything as it's included with their server software.
?It costs the price of the server!
Linux / Apache / Mysql / PHP costs sod all other than time and effort.
>Simply create a catalog for your site. You can follow the 10 steps in
>my tutorial here if you like:
>http://www.simongibson.com/intranet/indexserv/indexserv.html
>
>And then create an asp search page to add to your site. If you don't
>fancy writing one yourself, you can purchase one from my site for
>US$25:
>http://www.simongibson.com/intranet/indxscpt/indxscpt.html
>
>That's pretty much it, a fully functional search engine for your
>Intranet or Web Site for 25 bucks.
Will it work on a LAMP installation?
TheGuru
> TalaGuy wrote:
> >
> > Hi:
> > I wanted to add a site search to the site I just designed-a search that
> > gives up to date results. So adding Google for free
> > (http://www.google.com/searchcode.html#both) is out, since it will only
> > search on what it cached last time it crawled. Any recommendations for a
> > simple method of adding a site search to my site? My site is designed in
> > .asp.
> >
> > Thanks,
>
> I highly recommend atomz.com.
>
> pages or less, and moderately priced for more pages, on a
> tiered pricing structure.
>
> simple (just the word "search" with you selecting a default
> setting from "exact match" or ""any word" or "all words")
> to highly intricate layouts including many search terms --
> including the ability to search date ranges by day and month
> (good for ezines); boolean seach is supported, of course.
>
> that when the keyword results are returned to the party
> making the search, the things you want viewers to see willl
> have most weight and will rise to the top of the search
> results. Weighting is on a 0 - 10 scale. Elements that can
> be weighted include title, file name, metatags, body copy,
> etc. Using the weighting system, you can actually
> approximates google ranking for the same pages -- or produce
> results skewed in another direction, if that serves you
> better.
>
> reindexing to an automated schedule.
>
> of searches conducted and the top-ten search terms used at
> your site -- and from that email you can click a link to a
> web page that displays the entire log of search requests for
> that week, if you wish.
>
> friendly.
>
> ? I have used their service for several years now and would
> not change under any circumstances. If you contact them, you
> can use my name as a reference. I am not connected to their
> company in any way, but i think they are providing a useful
> service that is loaded with exemplary features and i wish to
> see them succeed.
>
> cat yronwode
> Lucky Mojo Curio Co. http://www.luckymojo.com
I recommend FusionBot when it comes to hosted site search, if you can
implement in such an environment, as their free version is robust as
well. However, when / if you every require upgrading to a paid level
subscription, you won't break the bank ;-)
Rob McAninch
I use a simple search from boutell.com, it is Perl CGI. Perhaps you
can rewrite for ASP. Or just use it directly.
--
Rob - http://rock13.com/
Web Stuff: http://rock13.com/webhelp/
Simon Gibson
included with Windows 2000 Professional (for example) which is around
a hundred pounds these days for the version upgrade. This would be
ideal in an intranet situation where you don't need to host more than
one site (as you're limited with the W2K version of IIS). That said,
many SMEs will have at least 1 Windows Server already so they might as
well make full use of what they've paid for!
As far as a LAMP installation goes, there's no in-built provision to
easily provide an intranet search facility and it's the time and
effort of trying to achieve this that will out-weigh it's short-term
cost savings.
Naturally, a search solution for Index Server won't work on a LAMP
installation as it's VBScript/ASP based not PHP-based and uses Index
Server. It will, however, index files on a UNIX-type platform accross
a network but there are often problems as UNIX-type filesystems are
case sensitive and Microsoft types are not.
Simon
Titus A Ducksass <m...@neverumind.com> wrote in message news:<le4pfvkj671f99dtp...@4ax.com>...
Jo
>
> ? Their site-specific search engine is free if you have 500
> pages or less, and moderately priced for more pages, on a
> tiered pricing structure.
I'm not sure that this is correct any more. I have just had a
conversation with Atomz about my site search. We have just gone over
the 500 page mark and they are quoting us a fee of $15000 a year to
upgrade - even though we are unlikely to go beyond 1000 pages in the
next couple of years.
I've taken a look at atomz.com and there is no longer any mention of
fees - you have to contact them to get prices. Sorry to contradict -
this is just my experience.
HTH
Jo
Toby A Inkster
> I'm not sure that this is correct any more. I have just had a
> conversation with Atomz about my site search. We have just gone over
> the 500 page mark and they are quoting us a fee of $15000 a year to
> upgrade - even though we are unlikely to go beyond 1000 pages in the
> next couple of years.
With that many pages you should have a database backend anyway, so it's
easy enough to write your own search engine.
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Titus A Ducksass
AND, they cannot get past our intranet - no searching past password
protected areas...
Titus A Ducksass
<UseTheAddr...@deadspam.com> wrote:
>On Tue, 08 Jul 2003 07:02:35 -0700, Jo wrote:
>
>> I'm not sure that this is correct any more. I have just had a
>> conversation with Atomz about my site search. We have just gone over
>> the 500 page mark and they are quoting us a fee of $15000 a year to
>> upgrade - even though we are unlikely to go beyond 1000 pages in the
>> next couple of years.
>
>With that many pages you should have a database backend anyway, so it's
>easy enough to write your own search engine.
My site is c.300 pages and growing.
My intranet is c. 100 pages.
Where do I start to look about indexing our site and providing its own
search engine - just started using php to try to get the site under
control. - I took it over just over a year ago and am fighting it
everyday.
TheGuru
That's precisely why I recommend FusionBot!
For just over 500 pages, your yearly fee will range between $240.00 to
$720.00, and I find their search features to surpass those of Atomz
anyway.
Hard to understand why anyone would choose the Atomz solution...
Toby A Inkster
> My site is c.300 pages and growing.
> My intranet is c. 100 pages.
> Where do I start to look about indexing our site and providing its own
> search engine - just started using php to try to get the site under
> control. - I took it over just over a year ago and am fighting it
> everyday.
For static content, look into htdig.
If your site is database-backed, you will get better results writing your
own custom search engine. I wrote one for my site. It took about an hour
and a half. The source code is available for my entire site (go to my site
and search for 'demiblog') and this should give you an idea of how to do
it.
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http://www.goddamn.co.uk/tobyink/ | "You've got spam!"
playing://(nothing)
Titus A Ducksass
<UseTheAddr...@deadspam.com> wrote:
>On Wed, 09 Jul 2003 07:20:18 +0100, Titus A Ducksass wrote:
>
>> My site is c.300 pages and growing.
>> My intranet is c. 100 pages.
>> Where do I start to look about indexing our site and providing its own
>> search engine - just started using php to try to get the site under
>> control. - I took it over just over a year ago and am fighting it
>> everyday.
>
>For static content, look into htdig.
>
>If your site is database-backed, you will get better results writing your
>own custom search engine. I wrote one for my site. It took about an hour
>and a half. The source code is available for my entire site (go to my site
>and search for 'demiblog') and this should give you an idea of how to do
>it.
Thank you.
I love people that respond with curtious and helpfull replies.
Once again Thank you.
Titus A Ducksass
<Snip>
>
>That's precisely why I recommend FusionBot!
>
>For just over 500 pages, your yearly fee will range between $240.00 to
>$720.00, and I find their search features to surpass those of Atomz
>anyway.
>
>Hard to understand why anyone would choose the Atomz solution...
Because it is FREE!!!
(For less than 500 pages anyway.)
Titus A Ducksass
<UseTheAddr...@deadspam.com> wrote:
<Snip>
>For static content, look into htdig.
>
>If your site is database-backed, you will get better results writing your
>own custom search engine. I wrote one for my site. It took about an hour
>and a half. The source code is available for my entire site (go to my site
>and search for 'demiblog') and this should give you an idea of how to do
>it.
>
>--
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> aim:inka80 | icq:6622880 | yahoo:tobyink | jabber:t...@jabber.linux.it
> http://www.goddamn.co.uk/tobyink/ | "You've got spam!"
> playing://(nothing)
It may be me - using a laptop with xp home but I cannot access your
site correctly. Here is the error message:
The XML page cannot be displayed
Cannot view XML input using CSS style sheet. Please correct the error
and then click the Refresh button, or try again later.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Parameter entity must be defined before it is used. Error processing
resource 'http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml11/DTD/xhtml11.dtd'. Line 85,
Position 2
%xhtml-prefw-redecl.mod;
-^
TheGuru
So is FusionBot! We weren't talking about FREE package levels, as the
requirements are much larger than any free solutions, for the most
part.
It's a given that all the reputable providers offer a free solution.
Titus A Ducksass
I bow to your knowledge and experience.
It doesnt allow as many pages as Atomz though it does offer an extra
function of a site map.
<-0->
based flexible site search engine that is controlled by a config file and
is easily configurable on an Apache web server. Will also work with a Perl
enabled IIS site acording to form once modified. I index my site manually
once additions are made but it could be done automatically with a crontab
entry under Linux/Unix. See www.homes-fs.co.uk for an implementation - the
risearch engine also allows statistics as shown on the given web site.
"Rob McAninch" <rob...@excite.com> wrote in message
news:Xns93ABB2241...@24.48.107.53...
FatBlokeO...@pinsmother-truckers.co.uk
>search engine - just started using php to try to get the site under
>control. - I took it over just over a year ago and am fighting it
>everyday.
find yourself doing mainly, and/or in what order? (VERY broad question, and I appreciate
that every situation is different, but anything you can suggest would be welcome.)
TIA.
Titus A Ducksass
Doh. where does one start. - only now am I able to start automating
the site. For one year, I was not allowed to change anything other
than content - none of which was databased.
Constantly having to re-write the home page/index/sitemap/fix broken
links because all pages were hard coded with the same menu, all pages
had the same roll over events / images.
The site was written very precisely so that every page looked the same
- 26 a-z buttons - 26 a-z hover buttons 26 a-z button pressed buttons.
Not to mention the active menu /hover/pressed buttons.
Took me a year just to get most of the pages 'A' [SENDA / DDA]
complient.
AND, global replace was not an option...
The one area I am glad about is the ability to use include files and a
database of information that can be extracted.
Watch out for dynamic pages that ought to be dynamic static pages to
help withserver strain - does the data change often enough to need to
be dynamic or can it wait for an hour or 12 - use copy a page to
generate static copies of the dynamic pages and update using cron when
appropriate.
I am still a beginner at this - check the library, post explicit
questions AND - HAVE FUN!!!, Learn from your mistakes - NO 1, learn
how to include base files.
Toby A Inkster
> Parameter entity must be defined before it is used. Error processing
> resource 'http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml11/DTD/xhtml11.dtd'. Line 85,
> Position 2
>
> %xhtml-prefw-redecl.mod;
> -^
Thanks to the numerous people who have pointed this out. Seems to be a
bizarre bug in IE's XML parsing engine, but I *think* I have found a
workaround. Could somebody with IE please compare:
http://www.goddamn.co.uk/tobyink/
with:
http://www.goddamn.co.uk/tobyink/article-old.php
West
>
> Thanks to the numerous people who have pointed this out. Seems to be a
> bizarre bug in IE's XML parsing engine, but I *think* I have found a
> workaround. Could somebody with IE please compare:
>
> http://www.goddamn.co.uk/tobyink/
>
> with:
>
> http://www.goddamn.co.uk/tobyink/article-old.php
>
> --
(Win98, IE6) -- Both pages give an error message right now. Here's the
message:
The XML page cannot be displayed
Cannot view XML input using CSS style sheet. Please correct the error and
then click the Refresh button, or try again later.
--
W
William Tasso
> On Thu, 10 Jul 2003 07:52:49 +0100, Titus A Ducksass wrote:
>
>> Parameter entity must be defined before it is used. Error processing
>> resource 'http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml11/DTD/xhtml11.dtd'. Line 85,
>> Position 2
>>
>> %xhtml-prefw-redecl.mod;
>> -^
>
> Thanks to the numerous people who have pointed this out. Seems to be a
> bizarre bug in IE's XML parsing engine, but I *think* I have found a
> workaround. Could somebody with IE please compare:
>
> http://www.goddamn.co.uk/tobyink/
>
> with:
>
> http://www.goddamn.co.uk/tobyink/article-old.php
look the same here (ie6/sp1) both disply the error page complaining about
line 85
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Nico Schuyt
> Thanks to the numerous people who have pointed this out. Seems to be a
> bizarre bug in IE's XML parsing engine, but I *think* I have found a
> workaround. Could somebody with IE please compare:
>
> http://www.goddamn.co.uk/tobyink/
> with:
> http://www.goddamn.co.uk/tobyink/article-old.php
Both resulting in message (IE5.5):
"The XML page cannot be displayed
Cannot view XML input using style sheet. Please correct the error and then
Titus A Ducksass
<UseTheAddr...@deadspam.com> wrote:
>
>Thanks to the numerous people who have pointed this out. Seems to be a
>bizarre bug in IE's XML parsing engine, but I *think* I have found a
>workaround. Could somebody with IE please compare:
>
>http://www.goddamn.co.uk/tobyink/
>
>with:
>
>http://www.goddamn.co.uk/tobyink/article-old.php
Looks OK now to me - IE6.0
No errorrs.