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Paul

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Sep 9, 2006, 12:34:09 PM9/9/06
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I think this is what you were looking for LOL
http://www. kimmoa.se/


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"Paul" <lamewolf2004[REMOVE]@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>I think this is what you were looking for LOL
> http://www. kimmoa.se/

A 21 year old snot nosed child! LOL!!! Yep he has that site SEOed alright!
LOL!!! TOO Funny!

His Mommy needs to keep a better eye on him!:-)

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Paul

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On Sat, 9 Sep 2006 19:17:40 +0200, "Jezsta Web Productions"
<Please-use-ou...@jezsta.com> wrote:

>"Paul" <lamewolf2004[REMOVE]@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:cuq5g2dl3kabif60l...@4ax.com...
>>I think this is what you were looking for LOL
>> http://www. kimmoa.se/
>
>A 21 year old snot nosed child! LOL!!! Yep he has that site SEOed alright!
>LOL!!! TOO Funny!

I couldn't stop laughing myself.

>His Mommy needs to keep a better eye on him!:-)

He needs medical help.

>Stacey

plh
Paul

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__/ [ Paul ] on Saturday 09 September 2006 18:36 \__

> On Sat, 9 Sep 2006 19:17:40 +0200, "Jezsta Web Productions"
> <Please-use-ou...@jezsta.com> wrote:
>
>>"Paul" <lamewolf2004[REMOVE]@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>news:cuq5g2dl3kabif60l...@4ax.com...
>>>I think this is what you were looking for LOL
>>> http://www. kimmoa.se/
>>
>>A 21 year old snot nosed child! LOL!!! Yep he has that site SEOed alright!
>>LOL!!! TOO Funny!
>
> I couldn't stop laughing myself.
>
>>His Mommy needs to keep a better eye on him!:-)
>
> He needs medical help.

Please don't go down this path, guys. Unless I'm missing something, it's time
to grow up...

Roy

Paul

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Sep 10, 2006, 6:42:39 AM9/10/06
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On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 11:25:18 +0100, Roy Schestowitz
<newsg...@schestowitz.com> wrote:

>> He needs medical help.
>
>Please don't go down this path, guys.

Tell the troll, not us.

>Unless I'm missing something,

Must be Roy. You're not on the receiving end of his lies.

>it's time to grow up...

41 already.

>Roy

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Paul

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Sep 10, 2006, 7:10:10 AM9/10/06
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__/ [ Paul ] on Sunday 10 September 2006 11:42 \__

> On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 11:25:18 +0100, Roy Schestowitz
> <newsg...@schestowitz.com> wrote:
>
>>> He needs medical help.
>>
>>Please don't go down this path, guys.
>
> Tell the troll, not us.
>
>>Unless I'm missing something,
>
> Must be Roy. You're not on the receiving end of his lies.
>
>>it's time to grow up...
>
> 41 already.

I must have missed a thread, or two, or a few hundreds. Sorry, I'm just
out-of-date and haven't tracked this new regular called Kimmo. So I'll STFU!
*smile*

Best wishes,

Roy

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Big Bill

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Roy Schestowitz

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__/ [ Big Bill ] on Sunday 10 September 2006 15:07 \__

> On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 11:25:18 +0100, Roy Schestowitz
> <newsg...@schestowitz.com> wrote:
>
>>__/ [ Paul ] on Saturday 09 September 2006 18:36 \__
>>
>>> On Sat, 9 Sep 2006 19:17:40 +0200, "Jezsta Web Productions"
>>> <Please-use-ou...@jezsta.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>"Paul" <lamewolf2004[REMOVE]@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:cuq5g2dl3kabif60l...@4ax.com...
>>>>>I think this is what you were looking for LOL
>>>>> http://www. kimmoa.se/
>>>>
>>>>A 21 year old snot nosed child! LOL!!! Yep he has that site SEOed
>>>>alright! LOL!!! TOO Funny!
>>>
>>> I couldn't stop laughing myself.
>>>
>>>>His Mommy needs to keep a better eye on him!:-)
>>>
>>> He needs medical help.
>>
>>Please don't go down this path, guys. Unless I'm missing something, it's
>>time to grow up...
>>
>>Roy
>
> I think if they were ever going to, they would have by now.

I've spotted some evidence that justifies their side of the story.

Big Bill

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Sep 10, 2006, 11:32:31 AM9/10/06
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On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 15:21:03 +0100, Roy Schestowitz
<newsg...@schestowitz.com> wrote:

Not their responses to it though. There's a tendency to forget we were
young ourselves on this group, it's unbecoming.

Paul

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Sep 10, 2006, 12:04:12 PM9/10/06
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On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 15:32:31 GMT, Big Bill <kr...@cityscape.co.uk>
wrote:

>>I've spotted some evidence that justifies their side of the story.
>
>Not their responses to it though. There's a tendency to forget we were
>young ourselves on this group, it's unbecoming.
>
>BB

Kettle / black / snipping springs to mind. ;)

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"Big Bill" <kr...@cityscape.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 15:21:03 +0100, Roy Schestowitz
> <newsg...@schestowitz.com> wrote:

>>
>>I've spotted some evidence that justifies their side of the story.
>
> Not their responses to it though. There's a tendency to forget we were
> young ourselves on this group, it's unbecoming.

I was never that young! Speak for yourself Bill. I always like it when you
feel you don't do anything.

Stacey


John Bokma

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Sep 10, 2006, 12:12:02 PM9/10/06
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Roy Schestowitz <newsg...@schestowitz.com> wrote:

> __/ [ Paul ] on Saturday 09 September 2006 18:36 \__
>
>> On Sat, 9 Sep 2006 19:17:40 +0200, "Jezsta Web Productions"
>> <Please-use-ou...@jezsta.com> wrote:

[..]



>> He needs medical help.
>
> Please don't go down this path, guys. Unless I'm missing something,
> it's time to grow up...

Thanks Roy.

Diagnosis over Usenet is bound to fail. Moreover, there are millions of
people who get daily medical help with medicines that don't cure, and have
serious side effects... I sincerly doubt we need more.

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__/ [ John Bokma ] on Sunday 10 September 2006 17:12 \__

> Roy Schestowitz <newsg...@schestowitz.com> wrote:
>
>> __/ [ Paul ] on Saturday 09 September 2006 18:36 \__
>>
>>> On Sat, 9 Sep 2006 19:17:40 +0200, "Jezsta Web Productions"
>>> <Please-use-ou...@jezsta.com> wrote:
>
> [..]
>
>>> He needs medical help.
>>
>> Please don't go down this path, guys. Unless I'm missing something,
>> it's time to grow up...
>
> Thanks Roy.
>
> Diagnosis over Usenet is bound to fail. Moreover, there are millions of
> people who get daily medical help with medicines that don't cure, and have
> serious side effects... I sincerly doubt we need more.

Sorry. My bad...

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John Bokma

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Sep 10, 2006, 4:03:14 PM9/10/06
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Roy Schestowitz <newsg...@schestowitz.com> wrote:

> __/ [ John Bokma ] on Sunday 10 September 2006 17:12 \__

[..]



>> Thanks Roy.
>>
>> Diagnosis over Usenet is bound to fail. Moreover, there are millions
>> of people who get daily medical help with medicines that don't cure,
>> and have serious side effects... I sincerly doubt we need more.
>
> Sorry. My bad...

No: bad of the person who stated KimmoA (IIRC) needs medical help.

Paul

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Sep 10, 2006, 4:09:46 PM9/10/06
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On 10 Sep 2006 20:03:14 GMT, John Bokma <jo...@castleamber.com> wrote:

>No: bad of the person who stated KimmoA (IIRC) needs medical help.

I stand by what I say.

You may want to read these too.
http://216.239.59.104/search?q=cache:944GSpX7iEEJ:www.zesiger.com/shared/forums/newreply.php%3Fdo%3Dnewreply%26p%3D410+%22kimmoa.se%22&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=3
http://216.239.59.104/search?q=cache:Kh4q91io8boJ:www.allegro.cc/forums/thread/536955+%22kimmoa.se%22&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=30

He is a troll EVERYWHERE he goes.
One very sad child.

Roy Schestowitz

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Sep 10, 2006, 4:29:00 PM9/10/06
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__/ [ Paul ] on Sunday 10 September 2006 21:09 \__

> On 10 Sep 2006 20:03:14 GMT, John Bokma <jo...@castleamber.com> wrote:
>
>>No: bad of the person who stated KimmoA (IIRC) needs medical help.
>
> I stand by what I say.
>
> You may want to read these too.
>
http://216.239.59.104/search?q=cache:944GSpX7iEEJ:www.zesiger.com/shared/forums/newreply.php%3Fdo%3Dnewreply%26p%3D410+%22kimmoa.se%22&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=3
>
http://216.239.59.104/search?q=cache:Kh4q91io8boJ:www.allegro.cc/forums/thread/536955+%22kimmoa.se%22&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=30
>
> He is a troll EVERYWHERE he goes.
> One very sad child.

Ouch. I'd be careful to judge anyone based on forums _without_ hearing the
other side of the story. However:

,----[ Quote ]
| [QUOTE=badon]The forums were shut down for a few hours while the security
| was tightened a little to keep the DDoS attacks out. One of the
| disgruntled group users initiated the attacks. This is the second attack
| from this individual.
|
| Here's the message that was displayed while the forums were down - It
| explains what happened:
|
|
| [i]Sorry, the board is unavailable at the moment due to repeated
| distributed denial of service (DDoS) attacks.
|
| The person responsible for these attacks is Kimmo Alm -
| [url]http://www.kimmoa.se/[/url]
|
| If you would like to express your disappointment in his behavior you
| may write to him at his HOME address:
|
| <address snipped>
|
| Please don't write anything too nasty though, because this 20 year old
| man still lives with his mother, and it wouldn't be polite to upset her.
|
| Alternately, you may call him directly on his cell phone at <snip >.
| USA callers must dial 011 first, in order to make an international call
| to Sweden.
|
| Swedish police have already been contacted for a previous incident, but
| if you're in Sweden and you wish to make another report for this
| incident, feel free to do so.
|
| In the meantime, please enjoy an additional selection of Kimmo's
| self-published information:
|
| His blog - [url]http://blog.kimmoa.se/[/url]
| His web development company - [url]http://www.swesol.com/[/url]
| His personal web site - [url]http://www.kimmoa.se/[/url]
| His résumé - [url]http://www.kimmoa.se/CV.html[/url]
| [/i][/QUOTE]
`----

Or:

,----[ Quote ]
| Sorry.
|
| I forgot that you're a bunch of narrow-minded rednecks who don't know how
| to read, much less put yourself into someone else's situation.
`----

Bad, bad, bad. I hope he reads this and can voice some defensive words. The
latter is unlikely to be an imposter and I don't know if he is only being
framed. I had some psychopaths who pretended to be me and posted lies to
muck my name. So I'd like to her Kimmo's side.

Best wishes,

Roy

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On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 21:09:46 +0100, Paul
<lamewolf2004[REMOVE]@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On 10 Sep 2006 20:03:14 GMT, John Bokma <jo...@castleamber.com> wrote:
>
>>No: bad of the person who stated KimmoA (IIRC) needs medical help.
>
>I stand by what I say.
>
>You may want to read these too.
>http://216.239.59.104/search?q=cache:944GSpX7iEEJ:www.zesiger.com/shared/forums/newreply.php%3Fdo%3Dnewreply%26p%3D410+%22kimmoa.se%22&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=3
>http://216.239.59.104/search?q=cache:Kh4q91io8boJ:www.allegro.cc/forums/thread/536955+%22kimmoa.se%22&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=30
>
>He is a troll EVERYWHERE he goes.
>One very sad child.

Child is about right, though, and that should be born in mind. He
shows occasional promise.

Big Bill

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On 10 Sep 2006 20:03:14 GMT, John Bokma <jo...@castleamber.com> wrote:

>Roy Schestowitz <newsg...@schestowitz.com> wrote:
>
>> __/ [ John Bokma ] on Sunday 10 September 2006 17:12 \__
>
>[..]
>
>>> Thanks Roy.
>>>
>>> Diagnosis over Usenet is bound to fail. Moreover, there are millions
>>> of people who get daily medical help with medicines that don't cure,
>>> and have serious side effects... I sincerly doubt we need more.
>>
>> Sorry. My bad...
>
>No: bad of the person who stated KimmoA (IIRC) needs medical help.

More of a self-diagnosis, IMHO :-(

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"Roy Schestowitz" <newsg...@schestowitz.com> wrote in message
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<snip>

> Bad, bad, bad. I hope he reads this and can voice some defensive words.
> The
> latter is unlikely to be an imposter and I don't know if he is only being
> framed. I had some psychopaths who pretended to be me and posted lies to
> muck my name. So I'd like to her Kimmo's side.

Roy,

I don't think someone is trying to mock KimmoA. This type of stuff is
posted everywhere. All one has to do is a little research. He is a troll,
hacker, liar, and disrespects anyone he thinks gets in his way.

What Paul has tried to do is show what type of person KimmoA is.

Stacey


Roy Schestowitz

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Sep 10, 2006, 5:25:38 PM9/10/06
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__/ [ Jezsta Web Productions ] on Sunday 10 September 2006 22:21 \__

Thanks, Stacey. He's off my sight now. Seems like the elitist attitude took
only days to become apparent in a group he wished to have authority in,
partly by discrediting others. And that self-admitted 'grammar/etc nazi'
stuff should serve as a red flag. And appears to be him, not yourselves, who
needs to grow up.

Paul

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Sep 10, 2006, 5:42:10 PM9/10/06
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Thank you both.
The less people reply to his posts, the less we will see of him.
At this rate it will be the FBI paying him a visit as well as the
Swedish Police.

plh
Paul

John Bokma

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Sep 10, 2006, 7:03:57 PM9/10/06
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Roy Schestowitz <newsg...@schestowitz.com> wrote:

> __/ [ Paul ] on Sunday 10 September 2006 21:09 \__
>
>> On 10 Sep 2006 20:03:14 GMT, John Bokma <jo...@castleamber.com> wrote:
>>
>>>No: bad of the person who stated KimmoA (IIRC) needs medical help.
>>
>> I stand by what I say.
>>
>> You may want to read these too.

[board troubles]



> Bad, bad, bad. I hope he reads this and can voice some defensive
> words. The latter is unlikely to be an imposter and I don't know if he
> is only being framed. I had some psychopaths who pretended to be me
> and posted lies to muck my name. So I'd like to her Kimmo's side.

Ok, long funny story: I was (was) a member of a message board (mb for
short). I have my own mb (have as in I do the technical stuff), jbmb for
short. Anyway, mb got hacked. I had admin rights on mb, so I tried to
login, and failed. Somehow my admin rights were revoked. Some time
before another person admin (es) on mb, but not the owner, had asked on
jbmb why I had those rights. I had the feeling he had revoked them.

Anyway, I tried to contact the owner of mb, since I needed rights to fix
things. And for days, no reaction. So I called the owner, and I am sure
nobody here will be shocked, on jbmb a fuck up :-)

Anyway, es got pissed off because of this. I explained that when mb is
hacked and defaced (again), and the owner doesn't give a shit, that that
is no way to run a board. I had been asked to help out, and said yes,
and I could do no thing.

Then I recalled that the owner had given me passwords for myphpadmin,
and I checked a back up I made of mb a year ago on my machine, and
presto I found the pm with the passwords. I could get into myphpadmin,
reset my admin rights, and was able to fix the board.

One of the first replies to my "its fixed" post on mb was by the owner:
he had put back a few files (look, I did my job too). The thing is, the
defacing happened because someone inserted HTML in the database and made
sure it was the only thing showing up on the board. So restoring files
was not going to fix this issue (I had already done so :-)).

Anyway, es said aloud that only a hacker could have fixed in such a
short time (mb was defaced for 2 weeks, and it took me hours to fix it
in a non-destructive way), especially because I had no admin rights
anymore.

The sad thing is that a lot of people picked his idea up, despite
knowing me for years. I had hacked the board, defaced it, etc. People
who defended me on the board were given the option: shut up, or fuck
off. Post were deleted. I got quite some new members that day :-) Sadly
including people who tried to find prove of my hacker activities.

Not saying that KimmoA was victim of a joe job nor the opposite. But
those things do happen.

John Bokma

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Sep 10, 2006, 7:06:15 PM9/10/06
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"Jezsta Web Productions" <Please-use-ou...@jezsta.com> wrote:

> I don't think someone is trying to mock KimmoA. This type of stuff is
> posted everywhere. All one has to do is a little research. He is a
> troll, hacker, liar, and disrespects anyone he thinks gets in his way.

Identity theft is a piece of cake on Usenet. I have seen it too often.
With some research you can find that I programmed the invisibility modules
for the WMD. And as usual I did my job too well. They are still not found
>:->.

Not saying that KimmoA is a nice person, nor the opposite. But a lot of
witches have been burned because people liked the show.

John Bokma

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Sep 10, 2006, 7:13:04 PM9/10/06
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Paul <lamewolf2004[REMOVE]@yahoo.com> wrote:

[links]
- first one goes to an unposted post? Looks odd.
- second one: it takes me only a minute to find an almost identical thread
in this group with one of a subset of regulars in the role of KimmoA.

Amazing how discussions go the same way: Statement, objections, and if the
majority disagrees it's followed by advice that even would make Dr. Phil
cry.

Moreover, that last link: people read it too colorful. It's funny to make
someone look bad, and dig up threads like that to get a point. I am amazed
it hasn't happened to me more often >:->

John Bokma

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Sep 10, 2006, 7:16:38 PM9/10/06
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Big Bill <kr...@cityscape.co.uk> wrote:

> Child is about right, though, and that should be born in mind. He
> shows occasional promise.

I am with Bill on this one.

People who often have something to say are rarely welcomed in Usenet
groups (or message boards for that matter) by the regulars. Not saying
that KimmoA belongs to that class, but it's silly to refute all he has
posted so far because a lot was wrong. A lot of us have been there as
well.

I mean, my site was called "everything but the kitchensink", and that
wasn't a bad idea after all :-)

John Bokma

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Sep 10, 2006, 7:19:14 PM9/10/06
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Big Bill <kr...@cityscape.co.uk> wrote:

> On 10 Sep 2006 20:03:14 GMT, John Bokma <jo...@castleamber.com> wrote:

[..]

>>No: bad of the person who stated KimmoA (IIRC) needs medical help.
>
> More of a self-diagnosis, IMHO :-(

self-diagnosis with mental health issues are not accepted AFAIK :-D.

Jezsta Web Productions

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Sep 10, 2006, 8:46:04 PM9/10/06
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"John Bokma" <jo...@castleamber.com> wrote in message
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> Big Bill <kr...@cityscape.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Child is about right, though, and that should be born in mind. He
>> shows occasional promise.
>
> I am with Bill on this one.
>
> People who often have something to say are rarely welcomed in Usenet
> groups (or message boards for that matter) by the regulars. Not saying
> that KimmoA belongs to that class, but it's silly to refute all he has
> posted so far because a lot was wrong. A lot of us have been there as
> well.
>
> I mean, my site was called "everything but the kitchensink", and that
> wasn't a bad idea after all :-)

No one said everything but the kitchen sink was bad.:-) That always makes a
good meatloaf(everything but the kitchen sink). Your site is about John
Bokma.:-)

Stacey


John Bokma

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Sep 10, 2006, 10:56:25 PM9/10/06
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"Jezsta Web Productions" <Please-use-ou...@jezsta.com> wrote:

> "John Bokma" <jo...@castleamber.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns983AB9EB65...@130.133.1.4...
>> Big Bill <kr...@cityscape.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> Child is about right, though, and that should be born in mind. He
>>> shows occasional promise.
>>
>> I am with Bill on this one.
>>
>> People who often have something to say are rarely welcomed in Usenet
>> groups (or message boards for that matter) by the regulars. Not
>> saying that KimmoA belongs to that class, but it's silly to refute
>> all he has posted so far because a lot was wrong. A lot of us have
>> been there as well.
>>
>> I mean, my site was called "everything but the kitchensink", and that
>> wasn't a bad idea after all :-)
>
> No one said everything but the kitchen sink was bad.:-)

Hmmm.... I recall that it was suggested ;-)

> That always
> makes a good meatloaf(everything but the kitchen sink). Your site is
> about John Bokma.:-)

:-) Yes, it is. And the kitchen sink will be there one day as well, I mean
I do the dishes now and then. But so far the kitchen sink hasn't revealed
secrets that are interesting enough to write about :-D.

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