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Berimor

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Mar 29, 2006, 2:34:38 AM3/29/06
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Can anybody tell me what happend to Google - is it got sick or my
http://askdachav.co.uk was penalized really???
I'm mad!!! What for?
I have also noticed strange behavior of google's index for couple of my
other projects.

Roy Schestowitz

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Mar 29, 2006, 2:46:22 AM3/29/06
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__/ [ Berimor ] on Wednesday 29 March 2006 08:34 \__

Your site is not indexed and has no PageRank either. Have you liked to it
from outside, yet? Is it an 'island'? The only other possibility is that
your site got banned.

Best wishes,

Roy

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Roy Schestowitz

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Mar 29, 2006, 2:55:16 AM3/29/06
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__/ [ Roy Schestowitz ] on Wednesday 29 March 2006 08:46 \__

> __/ [ Berimor ] on Wednesday 29 March 2006 08:34 \__
>
>> Can anybody tell me what happend to Google - is it got sick or my
>> http://askdachav.co.uk was penalized really???
>> I'm mad!!! What for?
>> I have also noticed strange behavior of google's index for couple of my
>> other projects.
>
> Your site is not indexed and has no PageRank either. Have you liked to it
> from outside, yet? Is it an 'island'? The only other possibility is that
> your site got banned.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Roy
>

PS - All seems fine, but I see some aggressiveness in the scripts. Perhaps
some users are being 'defended':

,----[ Code ]
| <SCRIPT LANGUAGE='JavaScript'>
| <!--
|
| function add_to_favorite(){
| window.external.AddFavorite("http://askdachav.co.uk",
| "Ask Da Chav | Chav Search Engine");
| }
|
`----


Why??


,----[ Doe ]
| function make_home_page(obj){
| obj.style.behavior='url(#default#homepage)';
| obj.setHomePage('http://askdachav.co.uk');
| }
`----


Does the user agree?


,----[ Code ]
| var isNetscape=(navigator.appName.indexOf("Netscape") != -1);
| var outy=0;
| var outx=0;
`----

SEO issues aside, agent sniffing is frowned upon and such statements are
deprecated.

,----[ Code ]

document.write('<table width=200 border=0 cellpadding=2
cellspacing=0><tr><td bgcolor="#FF0000" width=10
style="color:white;font-weight:bold;">Switch:</td><td width=10
bgcolor="#FFFFFF">&nbsp;</td><td width=130 bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><h2>Chav | <a
href="/posh/" class=s>Posh</a></h2></td><td width=70>');
if ((navigator.appVersion.indexOf("MSIE") > 0)
&& (parseInt(navigator.appVersion) >= 4)){
document.write('<a href="#" OnClick="add_to_favorite(this);"
style="font-size:9px;color:#999999">+ favorite</a><br><a href="#"
OnClick="make_home_page(this);" style="font-size:9px;color:#999999">+
home&nbsp;page</a>');
} else {
document.write('<img src=\'/img/arr1.gif\'>');
}
document.write('</td></tr></table>');

`----

Ouch! Script masking.


,----[ Code ]
|
| //sliding bar
|
| [...]
| divobject.style.posTop=divobject.y;
| //divobjectDrop.style.posTop=divobjectDrop.y;
|
| }
| //divobjectDrop.style.top=50;
| //divobject.style.top=50;
| setTimeout("moveToOrigin()", 5);
| }
| divobject=definebar(divid);
| //divobjectDrop=definebar("adlist");
| moveToOrigin();
| }
| //-->
| </SCRIPT>
`----


Frankly, I am glad that my browser does not support this. People do not want
their browser window manipulated by scripts.

More critiques dropped for brevity.

Berimor

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Mar 29, 2006, 3:03:25 AM3/29/06
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> Your site is not indexed and has no PageRank either. Have you liked to it
> from outside, yet? Is it an 'island'? The only other possibility is that
> your site got banned.

Yes site was indexed in january and after 1 feb it got PR 4. Two days ago
it still had PR4 and more than 20,000 pages indexed. And last night all
desappeared!!!
Shhhhhiiiiiittttt!!!!

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Berimor

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Mar 29, 2006, 3:17:15 AM3/29/06
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On Wed, 29 Mar 2006 10:55:16 +0300, Roy Schestowitz
<newsg...@schestowitz.com> wrote:

> SEO issues aside, agent sniffing is frowned upon and such statements are
> deprecated.

Do you think that google's bots or scripts can notice such things and ban?
Or "human factor" should be anyway ?

ph...@isham-research.co.uk

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Mar 29, 2006, 3:38:55 AM3/29/06
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> Yes site was indexed in january and after 1 feb it got PR 4. Two days ago it still had PR4 and more than 20,000 pages indexed. And last night all desappeared!!!
Shhhhhiiiiiittttt!!!!

Frankly, I'm not surprised. If I had done a search, got to your page,
and had all those things done to my browser I'd have written a spam
report to Google within seconds.

Someone's reported you and you're banned, with reasonable certainty.
When you have fixed everything (on ALL your sites - the manual checker
WILL look at the others) then you start grovelling to Google.

I'd suggest you fix things PDQ before the other search engines ban you.

Berimor

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Mar 29, 2006, 3:44:49 AM3/29/06
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> More critiques dropped for brevity.
Also I would appreciate very much for part that dropped.


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Roy Schestowitz

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Mar 29, 2006, 3:58:49 AM3/29/06
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__/ [ Berimor ] on Wednesday 29 March 2006 09:17 \__

> On Wed, 29 Mar 2006 10:55:16 +0300, Roy Schestowitz
> <newsg...@schestowitz.com> wrote:
>
>> SEO issues aside, agent sniffing is frowned upon and such statements are
>> deprecated.
>
> Do you think that google's bots or scripts can notice such things and ban?


There was a rumour/speculation a while back that Google would render pages
using Gecko and perhaps take JavaScript for spin. I doubt it is a reality,
as yet..


> Or "human factor" should be anyway ?


Probably human factors in this case. Rectify this quickly and file for
re-inclusion if you feel like you deserve it after what you have done.

http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/reinclusion-request-howto/

Good luck,

Roy

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Roy Schestowitz

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Mar 29, 2006, 4:00:23 AM3/29/06
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__/ [ Berimor ] on Wednesday 29 March 2006 09:44 \__

It would be safe enough to remove all the JavaScript, as a first step. Big G
may have taken some notes to indicate why your site got banned. Give
reconciliation a chance, then restore (ethically).

Best wishes,

Roy

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Roy Schestowitz

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Mar 29, 2006, 4:03:21 AM3/29/06
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__/ [ ph...@isham-research.co.uk ] on Wednesday 29 March 2006 09:38 \__

>> Yes site was indexed in january and after 1 feb it got PR 4. Two days ago
>> it still had PR4 and more than 20,000 pages indexed. And last night all
>> desappeared!!!
> Shhhhhiiiiiittttt!!!!
>
> Frankly, I'm not surprised. If I had done a search, got to your page,
> and had all those things done to my browser I'd have written a spam
> report to Google within seconds.


Even if you knew it was our Berimor? You could have reported to AISE
instead... *smile*


> Someone's reported you and you're banned, with reasonable certainty.
> When you have fixed everything (on ALL your sites - the manual checker
> WILL look at the others) then you start grovelling to Google.
>
> I'd suggest you fix things PDQ before the other search engines ban you.

In case a report has been filed to several search engines already (the ban is
a day old, is it not?), I suggest you take your site down while you work on
it. Don't give them a chance to assess your site. Maybe wait for a week
before going live again...

Best wishes,

Roy

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Berimor

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Mar 29, 2006, 4:09:49 AM3/29/06
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> Frankly, I'm not surprised. If I had done a search, got to your page,
> and had all those things done to my browser I'd have written a spam
> report to Google within seconds.
>
> Someone's reported you and you're banned, with reasonable certainty.
> When you have fixed everything (on ALL your sites - the manual checker
> WILL look at the others) then you start grovelling to Google.

But i cant understand the relation between google and things im using on
site.
Moreover those things dont affect the SEO factor of page, thay dont
increase their rating.


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Berimor

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Mar 29, 2006, 4:13:20 AM3/29/06
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Ok guys, thanks to everyone.
I'll follow your suggestions - hope this will help.

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Stacey

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Mar 29, 2006, 8:37:27 AM3/29/06
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"Berimor" <ro...@roman.roman> wrote in message news:op.s653qncgzbrafm@rom...

>> Frankly, I'm not surprised. If I had done a search, got to your page,
>> and had all those things done to my browser I'd have written a spam
>> report to Google within seconds.
>>
>> Someone's reported you and you're banned, with reasonable certainty.
>> When you have fixed everything (on ALL your sites - the manual checker
>> WILL look at the others) then you start grovelling to Google.
>
> But i cant understand the relation between google and things im using on
> site.
> Moreover those things dont affect the SEO factor of page, thay dont
> increase their rating.

I agree with Berimor. What he is doing is not spam. Why would someone write
a spam report to waste Google's time when something is not spam. I can not
see Google banning this site for what I see with the site.

Google can stop indexing for other reasons also PR not enough to stay
indexed in a high competitive SERP, it is listed in there guidelines. Or it
is just a glitch.

But I don't have time to see if you did a bad linking scheme which can get
you banned also.

Stacey
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Berimor

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Mar 29, 2006, 12:37:09 PM3/29/06
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> Frankly, I'm not surprised. If I had done a search, got to your page,
> and had all those things done to my browser I'd have written a spam
> report to Google within seconds.

But which "all those things"? Why its frightening you?
Is the something criminal if i propose to visitor to "make homepage" or
"add to favourites"?
I just listed couple of sites with resemble features and noone is banned
though.

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