First step to make Wikipiggy better would be to put away with the anonymity of the editors
Barbara Schwarz
Wikipedia editors. That should reduce the smear and lies on that
pitiful excuse of an encyclopedia.
Barbara Schwarz
--
L. Ron Hubbard
Understanding is the universal solvent. It washes away
everything.
The Cardinal
wrote:
> Reporters have to identify themselves when writing and so should be
> Wikipedia editors. That should reduce the smear and lies on that
> pitiful excuse of an encyclopedia.
>
No they don't.... There is no legal obligation for any member of the
media to identify themselves. They do it because it's a tradition
Find that underground sub base yet B?
hugs and kisses
The Cardinal
Gregory Hall
news:e5a3fa4e-37d6-4f60...@r33g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
> Find that underground sub base yet B?
More self-imposed ignorance. There are none so blind as they who will not
see! Next time read with understanding instead of with your hate-inspired
usual bias.
Barbara has never said a word about an 'underground sub base.'
She has talked about a submarine village as in 'underwater habitat.' These
things exist so take your limited understanding and shove it.
--
Gregory Hall
Barbara Schwarz
> On Jun 10, 8:33 pm, Barbara Schwarz <BarbaraSchwarz2...@excite.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Reporters have to identify themselves when writing and so should be
> > Wikipedia editors. That should reduce the smear and lies on that
> > pitiful excuse of an encyclopedia.
>
> No they don't.... There is no legal obligation for any member of the
That "tradition" served responsibility. The Internet is not the
highway of information but the highway of lies because people can lie
and defame behind anonymity.
If people would have to identify themselves behind their edits, we
would not have to put up with so many lies.
>
> Find that underground sub base yet B?
Greg Hall made a wise suggestion and said that I should rather call it
"underwater habitat" than submarine as "habitat" would describes the
village better. He got a good point there. Hope to be there.
Post your real name and address here if you want a postcard:
>
> hugs and kisses
Oh, no, please not!
> The Cardinal
Barbara Schwarz
--
L. Ron Hubbard
The way to happiness requires that one set a good example for
others.
Great Sage Itchy
<c0eb3ead-8fdf-46b9...@w3g2000yqf.googlegroups.com>,
Barbara Schwarz <BarbaraSc...@excite.com> wrote:
Why is this asshole scientology bullshit posted to alt.bible.prophecy?
Don't you asshole scientologist/nazis have your own shit-hole newsgroup?
Barbara Schwarz
> "The Cardinal" <dreadpirateer...@aol.com> wrote in message
Lol. Good posting, Greg. The shove part could be by me.
--
Barbara Schwarz
Gregory Hall
news:100620091815401402%it...@itchyandscratchy.com...
You just don't get it. These anti-Scientology defamers and hate-mongers
aren't just out to destroy Scientology. They want to destroy all religion up
to and including Christianity. That is why all good Christians should be
concerned about the extremists' war against Scientology. They will not stop
with Scientology should they manage to destroy it. They will take and use
any and all successful methods and they will continue their war by applying
these methods against all organized religions because that is their real
agenda. They do Satan's work.
Believe it.
--
Gregory Hall
http://outingextremistanti-scientologists.blogspot.com/
Barbara Schwarz
wrote:
> In article
> <c0eb3ead-8fdf-46b9-b7d8-e4ca8e179...@w3g2000yqf.googlegroups.com>,
>
> Barbara Schwarz <BarbaraSchwarz2...@excite.com> wrote:
> > Reporters have to identify themselves when writing and so should be
> > Wikipedia editors. That should reduce the smear and lies on that
> > pitiful excuse of an encyclopedia.
>
> > Barbara Schwarz
> > --
> > L. Ron Hubbard
>
> > Understanding is the universal solvent. It washes away
> > everything.
>
> Why is this asshole scientology bullshit posted to alt.bible.prophecy?
> Don't you asshole scientologist/nazis have your own shit-hole newsgroup?
Sue me. No, I better sue you for having me called a Nazi and the "a"
word.
Man, "great" people on alt.bible.prophecy. Looks satan posts over
there. Lol.
I can smell the sulfur all the way to ars.
Barbara Schwarz
--
L. Ron Hubbard
The test of true competence is the end result.
Barbara Schwarz
> "Great Sage Itchy" <it...@itchyandscratchy.com> wrote in messagenews:100620091815401402%it...@itchyandscratchy.com...
>
>
>
> > <c0eb3ead-8fdf-46b9-b7d8-e4ca8e179...@w3g2000yqf.googlegroups.com>,
> > Barbara Schwarz <BarbaraSchwarz2...@excite.com> wrote:
>
> >> Reporters have to identify themselves when writing and so should be
> >> Wikipedia editors. That should reduce the smear and lies on that
> >> pitiful excuse of an encyclopedia.
>
> >> Barbara Schwarz
> >> --
> >> L. Ron Hubbard
>
> >> Understanding is the universal solvent. It washes away
> >> everything.
>
> > Why is this asshole scientology bullshit posted to alt.bible.prophecy?
> > Don't you asshole scientologist/nazis have your own shit-hole newsgroup?
>
> You just don't get it. These anti-Scientology defamers and hate-mongers
> aren't just out to destroy Scientology. They want to destroy all religion up
> to and including Christianity. That is why all good Christians should be
> concerned about the extremists' war against Scientology. They will not stop
> with Scientology should they manage to destroy it. They will take and use
> any and all successful methods and they will continue their war by applying
> these methods against all organized religions because that is their real
> agenda. They do Satan's work.
>
> Believe it.
>
> --
> Gregory Hallhttp://outingextremistanti-scientologists.blogspot.com/
The guy has bad skin and seems to be in pain. He is scratching and
itching. Yuk.
Sulfur in hell didn't help him much, I am afraid.
Barbara Schwarz
--
Your potentialities are a great deal better than anyone ever
permitted you to believe.
L. Ron Hubbard
Great Sage Itchy
<greg...@home.fake> wrote:
Scientology has done that by itself. Look at the link you posted:
http://outingextremistanti-scientologists.blogspot.com/
CREEPS. NAZIS.
Great Sage Itchy
<3dc10e9b-92cf-4062...@3g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>,
Barbara Schwarz <BarbaraSc...@excite.com> wrote:
Say hello the the twin faggots for me!
Allie Carpenter
> Post your real name and address here if you want a postcard:>
I would mind one from ya but the postal truck keeps sinking on that
last trip in to your "Habitat" It gets the mail all wet.
> > hugs and kisses
>
> Oh, no, please not!
your finger type no no no, but your baby canon says yes yes YES!
Kiss kiss
The Cardinal
Gary Forbis
wrote:
> That "tradition" served responsibility. The Internet is not the
> highway of information but the highway of lies because people can lie
> and defame behind anonymity.
People can lie and defame without anonymity. I don't see the problem
here. I weight my trust in part based upon the willingness of the
source
to identify himself or herself. Defaming comments from an
unidentified
source don't carry much weight with me.
> If people would have to identify themselves behind their edits, we
> would not have to put up with so many lies.
The last eight years says otherwise. Now I'm talking about the
federal government rather than wikipedia but that shouldn't mattter.
I use wikipedia all the time. I follow the Reagan maxim, "Trust but
verify."
There is always a certain level of abberant behavior in social
settings.
Balancing freedom against stability isn't easy. I don't know how one
would protect against those who would be anonymous. There are
drug dealers who steal cell phones. Do you really want to give people
who would be anonymous to spred lies reasons for more abberant
behaviors?
Michael Coburn
Who the hell let you in here. You seem to be sane. How did you get past
the anonymity screen.
--
"Those are my opinions and you can't have em" -- Bart Simpson
Barbara Schwarz
> On Jun 10, 6:19 pm, Barbara Schwarz <BarbaraSchwarz2...@excite.com>
> wrote:
>
> > That "tradition" served responsibility. The Internet is not the
> > highway of information but the highway of lies because people can lie
> > and defame behind anonymity.
>
> People can lie and defame without anonymity.
That is true but many people think twice to lie on the net when they
have to write their real name under what they wrote.
> I don't see the problem
> here. I weight my trust in part based upon the willingness of the
> source
> to identify himself or herself.
Most of my Wikipedia defamers never identified themselves. I found out
about some of them because I started to investigate them.
> Defaming comments from an
> unidentified
> source don't carry much weight with me.
The reader doesn't know that it defamation. The only thing to avoid
this would be not reading Wikipiggy at all.
>
> > If people would have to identify themselves behind their edits, we
> > would not have to put up with so many lies.
>
> The last eight years says otherwise. Now I'm talking about the
> federal government rather than wikipedia but that shouldn't mattter.
>
> I use wikipedia all the time. I follow the Reagan maxim, "Trust but
> verify."
Most people don't have so much time to research. They find university
students and also reporters and others simply copying what's on
Wikipedia, all the misinformation and the lies, which are on there.
>
> There is always a certain level of abberant behavior in social
> settings.
> Balancing freedom against stability isn't easy.
Wikipiggy editors stick their noses in just about anything and they
publish any private details about people with who they are getting
obsessed.
In other words, its pure hypocrisy on Wikipedia. They want to write
anonymously and nobody takes responsibility for deliberate lies and
misinformation but they spare no private detail about the people who
they target.
> I don't know how one
> would protect against those who would be anonymous. There are
> drug dealers who steal cell phones. Do you really want to give people
> who would be anonymous to spred lies reasons for more abberant
> behaviors?
This has nothing to do with that Wikipiggists deliberately lie and
hide in anonymity and that most people are too busy than to research
the truth in most cases.
Barbara Schwarz
--
Interesting blog by a non-Scientologist:
http://outingextremistanti-scientologists.blogspot.com/
And this is interesting too:
http://www.anonymous-exposed.org/
--
Tilman Hausherr webs defamation on me that he and Korey Jerome Kruse
scribbled once on Wikipedia:
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/media-newsroom/tilman-hausherr/
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/media-newsroom/tilman-hausherr/
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/intolerance-hate/whistle-blowers/the-clearwater-letters/tilman-hausherr/
http://bernie.cncfamily.com/sc/kids.htm#Debate_with_Tilman_Hausherr
http://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=Hausherr&btnG=Google+Search&domains=BERNIE.CNCFAMILY.COM&sitesearch=BERNIE.CNCFAMILY.COM
http://www.alarmgermany.org/tilman.htm
http://cyber-stalker-korey-jerome-kruse.blogspot.com/
http://phorums.com.au/archive/index.php/t-156307.html
Michael Coburn
>
> This has nothing to do with that Wikipiggists deliberately lie and hide
> in anonymity and that most people are too busy than to research the
> truth in most cases.
>
>
> Barbara Schwarz
> --
I find that I really do not care who puts stuff in wikipedia so long as
the stuff is properly sourced. I have recently added a load of in line
cites to the article on "economic rent". The article is still poor
because there is still a lot of un-sourced opinion. One of the real
problems is that there is a war going on in academic economics and it is
not going to abate. The disagreements are legitimate and backed by very
well known and respected people. The wikipedia should be fair to all
sides of the disagreement. That is all that can be done. I am not
allowed to put stuff in the article that is "original research" or
"ideologically biased". But when you try to do an article of spooks,
goblins, and sorcery you are probably going to have some serious
problems. All you have is appeal to authority and none of the zillions
of authorities will agree. In my case I have at most 3 schools of
economics as authorities.
Barbara Schwarz
> On Thu, 11 Jun 2009 12:48:56 -0700, Barbara Schwarz wrote:
>
> > This has nothing to do with that Wikipiggists deliberately lie and hide
> > in anonymity and that most people are too busy than to research the
> > truth in most cases.
>
> > Barbara Schwarz
> > --
>
> I find that I really do not care who puts stuff in wikipedia so long as
> the stuff is properly sourced.
Properly sourced? They add just the sources that portays the subject
in the light they want it to be seen. They withhold the other
information.
> I have recently added a load of in line
> cites to the article on "economic rent". The article is still poor
> because there is still a lot of un-sourced opinion. One of the real
> problems is that there is a war going on in academic economics and it is
> not going to abate. The disagreements are legitimate and backed by very
> well known and respected people. The wikipedia should be fair to all
> sides of the disagreement.
It should be - but is not.
> That is all that can be done. I am not
> allowed to put stuff in the article that is "original research" or
> "ideologically biased". But when you try to do an article of spooks,
> goblins, and sorcery you are probably going to have some serious
> problems. All you have is appeal to authority and none of the zillions
> of authorities will agree. In my case I have at most 3 schools of
> economics as authorities.
>
> --
> "Those are my opinions and you can't have em" -- Bart Simpson
I know that certain people lie and misinform also when writing under
their real names. But in order to not allowing anonymous people
smearing other people on Wikipedia, the editors should not be allowed
to edit anonymously. What are they afraid anyway? If they write the
truth, nobody can do them anything, right?
Barbara Schwarz
--
L. Ron Hubbard
Set a good example.
Clave
"Barbara Schwarz" <BarbaraSc...@excite.com> wrote in message
news:9adf8929-7f4a-4988...@h28g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
On Jun 12, 12:38 am, Michael Coburn <mik...@verizon.net> wrote:
> On Thu, 11 Jun 2009 12:48:56 -0700, Barbara Schwarz wrote:
>
> > This has nothing to do with that Wikipiggists deliberately lie and hide
> > in anonymity and that most people are too busy than to research the
> > truth in most cases.
>
> > Barbara Schwarz
> > --
>
> I find that I really do not care who puts stuff in wikipedia so long as
> the stuff is properly sourced.
Properly sourced? They add just the sources that portays the subject
in the light they want it to be seen. They withhold the other
information...
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Shiny side out, Babs.
Jim