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A Texan from Connecticut

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Dec 23, 2007, 7:05:45 AM12/23/07
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On Dec 22, 6:17 pm, "Joseph R Loegering" <JosephLoeger...@comcast.net>
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> Why not fulfill the dream of Christopher Columbus?
>
> In 1492 Christopher Columbus while trying to find a sea route to India

And then he and his men enslaved, slaughtered, and plundered the
indigenous peoples they encountered and paved the way for hundreds of
years of Holocaust in which countless millions of indigenous people
were slaughtered in some of the most vile ways imaginable. There,
fixed that for you.

miles

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Dec 23, 2007, 10:26:37 AM12/23/07
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A Texan from Connecticut wrote:

> And then he and his men enslaved, slaughtered, and plundered the
> indigenous peoples they encountered and paved the way for hundreds of
> years of Holocaust in which countless millions of indigenous people
> were slaughtered in some of the most vile ways imaginable. There,
> fixed that for you.

History has been rewritten and mutilated many times over the years. I
have read reports that Columbus himself never committed any of the
atrocities. Some of his men he left for years at a time did and their
actions were opposite of his orders. I don't think anyone today knows
what exactly he himself did or gave orders for.

Patriot Games

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Boo hoo....

If you don't defend it you can't keep it.


Nebuchadnezzar II

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So by your fucked up Reichtard logic, bringing down the twin towers was
perfectly acceptable.

Joseph R Loegering

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Ridicule instead of constructive criticism and or action upon solutions to
Mankind’s problems, is nothing new.

We are not Governed by the Majority, we are Governed by the Majority that
take action, and it is unfortunate that at most times, it is idiots that are
inspired to take the action, and make it impossible for anyone to be able to
solve any problem that Mankind Faces. Many of them get satisfaction out of
seeing people suffer, because they had taken action to ridicule and degrade
the people in need, and bring them under despotism.

When thousands are starving to death everyday, and are in need of work,
these tyrants would rather go to the Bank, and barrow money for an Energy
Consuming Machine, and charge people $200 so they can pay off the Bank,
instead of hiring 10 men, and paying them a fair wage of $20 an hour, for
doing manual labor that consumes no energy, and gets the Job done, so that
they may feed their families.

They scream, “Energy Cost too much!” And they raise their prices. But when
someone says, “I have a way of producing all the power that we need, all we
need is labor and Materials!” They scoff at the idea, so that they may
continue to charge their inflated prices.

Why not develop and build the Energy producing Mountains like I described?
Why not give some input as to how we can do it consuming the least amount of
power, and employing and feeding the largest number of people possible?

Why not develop and build the Energy producing Solar Cells like the one I
described? Why not give some input as to how we can do it consuming the
least amount of power, and employing and feeding the largest number of
people possible?

Why not develop and build the Energy saving and economy building Bridge and
Pipeline like I described? Why not give some input as to how we can do it
consuming the least amount of power, and employing and feeding the largest
number of people possible?

Is it the reason your not responding constructively, that you wish to
continue to get satisfaction out of seeing people suffer, because you had
taken action to ridicule and degrade the people in need, and bring them
under your despotism?


Do you know where I can get answers to these questions?

I have some different Rocks that formed Hollow on the inside. But I do not
know the Qualitative Analysis of the Three Different Layers. It is important
for me to find out what they are made of, because I found that when you get
them damp and expose them to Sunlight, the Black and Green layer on the
outside takes on a Positive Charge, and the Purple Translucent Crystals on
the other side, take on a Negative Charge. There is a White Crystal Layer in
between the two Layers, that seems to be a Polarized Semiconductor.

Here is a Video of the Rock that I sent to my Mother.

Http://www.josephsbusiness.com/Rock.wmv

I broke a section apart, and took each Layer and ground them real fine with
a Mortar and Pestle, and then took each substance separately and mixed them
evenly in some Silicone to form a Semitransparent sheet of Silicone. If I
take these sheets and cut them into one inch squares, and place one piece of
the sheet made from the White Crystal at each Pole of a Magnet, and then
take the other sheets and place one square made from the Purple Crystals
over the White Crystal at one Pole, and place one square of the sheet made
from the Black and Green Layer over the White Crystal Sheet at the other
Pole of the Magnet, when exposed to Sunlight, it produces 500 more
milliamperes, than the original damp Rock.

Where can I get an accurate Qualitative Analysis done on the Three
Different Layers? Is there a place in Minnesota where I can get this done?
The Rock weighs about 25 lbs. If I know what they are made of, I should be
able to do
some Chemical Engineering, and make them Synthetically, or find substances
that are Chemically Charged like them, that will work better for Solar
Cells.

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> A Mountain Named Electra!

In service of God and Country

Joseph


Joseph R Loegering

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Developers of Energy Producing Technology Needed

How many Pounds per Square Inch, will different Inclined Plane Coulombs of
Water Produce, for every 10 Feet in Altitude, with Coulombs ranging from 10
Feet to 10,000 Feet in Altitude, beginning with 1 Inch Diameter Pipes, up to
12 Foot Diameter Pipes, ranging from a 1 Degree Slope, up to a 90 Degree
Vertical Coulomb? How big of Electrical Generator, will each different Pipe
Size turn? What design of Water Turbine for an Electrical Generator will get
the most out of a Low Pressure Water System, and what design of Water
Turbine for an Electrical Generator, will get the most out of a High
Pressure Water System?

Beginning with a 1/10th Mile Per Hour Wind, up to a 150 Mile Per Hour Wind,
what design of Wind Turbine, will catch the most Pounds Per Square Inch,
from the Wind? How many Foot Pounds Per Square Inch, will each design
transfer the Axle, begging with a 1 Foot Diameter Turbine, up to a 150 Foot
Diameter Turbine? How many Blades are needed, and How Wide do they need to
be, to get the Most Power from the Wind?

How can I design and construct a permanent Wind Turbine Tower, with
replicable Bearings and Moving Parts, that will transfer the most Pounds Per
Square Inch, from the Axle to a Drive Shaft for turning Pumps and or
Equipment, and what is the best design of a Wind Vein, to keep the Turbine
Facing the Wind?

How big of Electrical Generator, will each different Pipe Size turn?


Joseph R Loegering

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Dec 23, 2007, 8:47:02 PM12/23/07
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Developers of Energy Producing Technology Needed

How many Pounds per Square Inch, will different Inclined Plane Coulombs of

Water Produce on a closed end, for every 10 Feet in Length, with Coulombs
ranging from 10
Feet to 100,000 Feet in Length, beginning with 1 Inch Diameter Pipes, up to


12 Foot Diameter Pipes, ranging from a 1 Degree Slope, up to a 90 Degree
Vertical Coulomb? How big of Electrical Generator, will each different Pipe
Size turn? What design of Water Turbine for an Electrical Generator will get
the most out of a Low Pressure Water System, and what design of Water
Turbine for an Electrical Generator, will get the most out of a High
Pressure Water System?

Beginning with a 1/10th Mile Per Hour Wind, up to a 150 Mile Per Hour Wind,
what design of Wind Turbine, will catch the most Pounds Per Square Inch,
from the Wind? How many Foot Pounds Per Square Inch, will each design
transfer the Axle, begging with a 1 Foot Diameter Turbine, up to a 150 Foot
Diameter Turbine? How many Blades are needed, and How Wide do they need to
be, to get the Most Power from the Wind?

How can I design and construct a permanent Wind Turbine Tower, with
replicable Bearings and Moving Parts, that will transfer the most Pounds Per
Square Inch, from the Axle to a Drive Shaft for turning Pumps and or
Equipment, and what is the best design of a Wind Vein, to keep the Turbine
Facing the Wind?

Do you know where I can get answers to these questions?

I have some different Rocks that formed Hollow on the inside. But I do not
know the Qualitative Analysis of the Three Different Layers. It is important
for me to find out what they are made of, because I found that when you get
them damp and expose them to Sunlight, the Black and Green layer on the
outside takes on a Positive Charge, and the Purple Translucent Crystals on
the other side, take on a Negative Charge. There is a White Crystal Layer in
between the two Layers, that seems to be a Polarized Semiconductor.

I broke a section apart, and took each Layer and ground them real fine with


a Mortar and Pestle, and then took each substance separately and mixed them
evenly in some Silicone to form a Semitransparent sheet of Silicone. If I
take these sheets and cut them into one inch squares, and place one piece of
the sheet made from the White Crystal at each Pole of a Magnet, and then
take the other sheets and place one square made from the Purple Crystals
over the White Crystal at one Pole, and place one square of the sheet made
from the Black and Green Layer over the White Crystal Sheet at the other
Pole of the Magnet, when exposed to Sunlight, it produces 500 more
milliamperes, than the original damp Rock.

Here is a Video of the Rock that I sent to my Mother.

Http://www.josephsbusiness.com/Rock.wmv

Where can I get an accurate Qualitative Analysis done on the Three
Different Layers? Is there a place in Minnesota where I can get this done?

The Rock weighs abot 25 lbs. If I know what they are made of, I should be


able to do
some Chemical Engineering, and make them Synthetically, or find substances
that are Chemically Charged like them, that will work better for Solar
Cells.

A Mountain Named Electra!

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Joseph R Loegering.vcf

Joseph R Loegering

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"Coulombs" should be spelled "Columns"

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Patriot Games

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> "Patriot Games" <Pat...@America.com> wrote in message
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>> "A Fag Texan from Connecticut" <ulti...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>>> On Dec 22, 6:17 pm, "Joseph R Loegering" <JosephLoeger...@comcast.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Why not fulfill the dream of Christopher Columbus?
>>>> In 1492 Christopher Columbus while trying to find a sea route to India
>>> And then he and his men enslaved, slaughtered, and plundered the
>>> indigenous peoples they encountered and paved the way for hundreds of
>>> years of Holocaust in which countless millions of indigenous people
>>> were slaughtered in some of the most vile ways imaginable. There,
>>> fixed that for you.
>> Boo hoo....
>> If you don't defend it you can't keep it.
> We are not Governed by the Majority, we are Governed by the Majority that
> take action

Nothing new...

> When thousands are starving to death everyday, and are in need of work,

Get a job.


Joseph R Loegering

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Some guy went to the Bank and barrowed enough Money to build and buy Big
Energy Consuming Machines, that do the work of thousands, and is charging
Tons of Money by the Hour, so that he can pay the Energy Bills, and pay off
the Bank.

Now of course this thinking that he is a Capatalist, does not realize that
they are now charging him Taxes, raising the price of his product, so that
they can feed the thousands that he sent to the unemployment line.

Why not save both the Energy and the Money wasted on Machines and Interests,
and employ the thousands to do the Job of these Energy Wasting Machines, by
hand?

Who is the Capatalist here, and who is the Communist?

zzbu...@netscape.net

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Well, that is bullcrap. Since the ONLY people who have EVER,
in the entire history of the world, done that, are liberals and
Bankers.
And in the entire history of the world, the only thing people who
actaully
know how energy production works, have ever borrowed, is money for
alternate
energy sources. So that's how Internet came into being,
not by some idiot proclamation of the moron Constitutional
Ammendments.

> "Joseph R Loegering" <JosephLoeger...@comcast.net> wrote in message


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Joseph R Loegering

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>> "Patriot Games" <Patr...@America.com> wrote in message
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You are a typical Politician. You have blamed others for the problem, and
have not talked directly about any one thing that I am talking about. And
you have provided nothing that would be a Solution. That is all Politicians
do for making a Living off our Tax Money, which is making the Problems
worse.

In service of God and Country

Joseph


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Joseph R Loegering

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The most durable and maintinace free Bearing and Hubs that I know of, are
used for Making Semi Trucks. Now instead of using them for running down the
road and burning up energy, can you figure out a way to use them to produce
alternate energy, without having to barrow from the Bank?

I can. Big Wind Turbins for Pumping Drinking Water, and Pumping Water to the
Deserts, and making Electricity while it is Pumped, coming up! As soon as I
finish drawing the designs, production will begin in a small garage, that
will operate mostly off Wind and Man Power.

zzbu...@netscape.net

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No, Since the most durable hubs you'll ever see
are the highways that the trucks ride on, which are
fully-funded by banks, not any vehicles on them.

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Joseph R Loegering

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- No, Since the most durable hubs you'll ever see
- are the highways that the trucks ride on, which are
- fully-funded by banks, not any vehicles on them.

The Highways funded by Banks, are just one of the things destroying
America!

Do you realize how dumb it is for the US Government to be borrowing Money
from any Bank?

The US Constitution gives the right to Congress to Coin Money based on the
Gold Standard. All you need is one Ounce of Gold in the treasury. You tell
1000 People, minimum wage is One Ounce of Gold for Forty Hours Labor. When
they each give you Forty Hours Labor, you now have 40,000 Hours of Labor,
Worth 1000 Ounces of Gold, so you print 1000 Gold Certificates worth One
Ounce Each, and use them as Legal Tender. The more the Nation Labors based
on a Gold Standard, the Richer it becomes, and does not have to fight
Inflation Caused by having to pay Interests. The other Factor that causes
Inflation is Taxes.

If the Congress would set the Gold Standard, and base Labor and Materials on
that, they would not have to Borrow Money or Collect Taxes to Pay for the
Roads. All they would have to do is say to the Contractor, how much
Material, and how much Labor, did you use to build this road? Then print the
Gold Certificates equal the the sum of the Labor and Materials. The Laborers
would spend the Money making the Economy Grow with Little Inflation.
Inflation would only come from supply and demand. Like if it took 100,000
Tons of Metal a Year for Farm Equipment, the Free Marget Value based on Gold
would ajust for that. But if the Army needed an extra 1,000,000 Tons of
Metal for a War, the extra demand for Metals would drive the Price Up! That
is what happened to our Economy by violating the Constitution, and keeping a
massive Standing Armed Force, when it was not needed, and it made the
Economy worse by borrowing the Money for it, and paying interests.
Generations of Americans to come, will spit on the graves of these idiots in
Washington that are owned by the Banks.

In service of God and Country

Joseph


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Joseph R Loegering

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On Dec 24, 10:25 pm, "Joseph R Loegering"

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- No, Since the most durable hubs you'll ever see

In service of God and Country

Joseph


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It doesn't really matter. Since the only thing the US Government,
or any
of the associated State Govermentts have ever proven about
economics
with their income tax systems. are just how dumb governemnts are.

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Joseph R Loegering

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- It doesn't really matter. Since the only thing the US Government,
-or any
- of the associated State Govermentts have ever proven about
-economics
- with their income tax systems. are just how dumb governemnts are.

Why don't you read on? Taxes and Interests are the Two most destructive
forces to an Economy, and that is what I have been talking about!

And before Steam Engines, my Family Pioneered Minnesota and North Dakota
with an average of 8 children per Family. My Father is the oldest of 14, my
Mother the Second Youngest of 13, and their siblings all average 8, I am the
second oldest of 8.

Wind, Land, Trees, and Water, was all that was here when my Family Settled
it. They used nearby River Water Wheels to cut lumber, and Wind to Pump
Water from Wells for Cattle and Crops. They broke Sod with Horses, until
they could do it with Steam. When a neighbor was hurt or became too ill to
plow and plant their own Farmstead, 120 Families would do their own work,
and then do the fallen neighbors work so that his Family could survive. Then
people came and began building Towns, and then Cities.

Many of the Dams built to turn Water Wheels for cutting Lumber and Grinding
Grain, are abandoned, but they are still here. Many of the Old Windmills don't
work anymore, but many of them are still here. They were Powerful Enough,
being built with whatever low-grade materials that could be scratched out of
the ground, they built these States. With good quality Materials and better
designs, they will make these States Grow. It is Government Regulations,
Taxes, Interests, and the extra demand of Materials for a Massive Armed
Force, that has caused the needed Land and Materials, to have an inflated
Price.

My Family even invented the Bobcat and Crawler Tracks, and built them for
Farm purposes, when Material and Power, were rare beasts around here.

But like my Family always did, I will find a way to do it!

In service of God and Country

Joseph

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Joseph R Loegering

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temple, before the dominion of the Jews was taken away, in the
seventieth week of Daniel, during the continuance of the second temple, the
heathen should be instructed, and brought to the knowledge of the God
worshipped by the Jews; that those who loved Him should be delivered from
their enemies, and filled with His fear and love.

And it happened that in the fourth monarchy, before the destruction of the
second temple, etc., the heathen in great number worshipped God, and led an
angelic life. Maidens dedicated their virginity and their life to God. Men
renounced their pleasures. What Plato could only make acceptable to a few
men, specially chosen and instructed, a secret influence imparted by the
power of a few words, to a hundred million ignorant men.

The rich left their wealth. Children left the dainty homes of their parents
to go into the rough desert. (See Philo the Jew.) All this was foretold a
great while ago. For two thousand years no heathen had worshipped the God of
the Jews; and at the time foretold, a great number of the heathen worshipped
this only God. The temples were destroyed. The very kings made submission to
the cross. All this was due to the Spirit of God, which was spread abroad
upon the earth.

No heathen, since Moses until Jesus Christ, believed according to the very
Rabbis. A great number of the heathen, after Jesus Christ, believed in the
books of Moses, kept them in substance and spirit, and only rejected what
was useless.

725. Prophecies.--The conversion of the Egyptians (Isaiah 19:19); an altar
in Egypt to the true God.

726. Prophecies.--In Egypt. Pugio Fidei, p. 659. Talmud. "It is a tradition
among us, that, when the Messiah shall come, the house of God, destined for
the dispensation of His Word, shall be full of filth and impurity; and that
the wisdom of the scribes shall be corrupt and rotten. Those who shall be
afraid to sin, shall be rejected by the people, and


Joseph R Loegering

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any hope.

God has promised them that, even though He should scatter them to the ends
of the earth, nevertheless, if they were faithful to His law, He would
assemble them together again. They are very faithful to it and remain
oppressed.

639. When Nebuchadnezzar carried away the people, for fear they should
believe that the sceptre had departed from Judah, they were told beforehand
that they would be there for a short time, and that they would be restored.
They were always consoled by the prophets; and their kings continued. But
the second destruction is without promise of restoration, without prophets,
without kings, without consolation, without hope, because the sceptre is
taken away for ever.

640. It is a wonderful thing, and worthy of particular attention, to see
this Jewish people existing so many years in perpetual misery, it being
necessary as a proof of Jesus Christ both that they should exist to prove
Him and that they should be miserable because they crucified Him; and though
to be miserable and to exist are contradictory, they nevertheless still
exist in spite of their misery.

641. They are visibly a people expressly created to serve as a witness to
the Messiah (Isaiah 43:9; 44:8). They keep the books, and love them, and do
not understand them. And all this was foretold; that God's judgments are
entrusted to them, but as a sealed book.

SECTION X: TYPOLOGY

642. Proof of the two Testaments at once.--To prove the two at one stroke,
we need only see if the prophe


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