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reece  
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 More options Nov 7 1997, 3:00 am
Newsgroups: alt.infertility.secondary
From: re...@texas.net
Date: 1997/11/07
Subject: Roll call

Ok folks,
     There hasn't been much here for awhile, so let do a roll call.
My name is Pam Reece.  We just celebrated Nathan's first bday last
Sunday.  Nathan is a metrodin baby and was conceived after nine very
long years.  We will start a fertinex cycle in December...if all goes
well.  We begin the long referral process on the 17th.  
Let's here from the rest of you.


 
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Jayne Frankland  
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 More options Nov 8 1997, 3:00 am
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From: ja...@child004.win-uk.net (Jayne Frankland)
Date: 1997/11/08
Subject: Re: Roll call

In article <3463C5E1.6...@texas.net>, re...@texas.net (re...@texas.net) writes:

>Ok folks,
>     There hasn't been much here for awhile, so let do a roll call.
>My name is Pam Reece.  We just celebrated Nathan's first bday last
>Sunday.  Nathan is a metrodin baby and was conceived after nine very
>long years.  We will start a fertinex cycle in December...if all goes
>well.  We begin the long referral process on the 17th.  
>Let's here from the rest of you.

Hi I'm Jayne from England - We just celebrated our
daughter Abigail's first birthday last month.  It
took us over 10 years to achieve our dream but the
wait has been worth it. Parenthood is wonderful and it
just gets better and better.

During our struggle to have a child we tried clomid,
metrodin, pergonal and IVF.  I have PCO and also a
very thin womb lining and none of the treatments
worked although I did become pregnant twice while not
on treatment and my last miscarriage was over 6 years
ago.  We then tried to adopt but found this very
difficult. It took nearly 3 years just to get approved
for adoption. When we finally reached the end of the
process my mum died of cancer.  We were then told we
would have to grieve for at least a year before they
would put us on the waiting list. I felt this was just
another tactic to get rid of us so we turned to
surrogacy.

Surrogacy worked like a dream for us.  We contacted
COTS, (Childlessness Overcome Through Surrogacy) in
Scotland and within weeks a surrogate mother chose
us.  We met up, got to know each each, went through
all the medicals, counselling etc and within a few
months we were pregnant.  I still can't believe I am
a mum and sometimes wake up thinking it is all a
dream until I hear our daughter crying for her
morning milk!

We are now trying for our second child and are
currently on our second cycle of treatment.  It is
just as hard as it was before.  The first 3 weeks
of the cycle seem to fly by but the last week crawls
by.  During this last week I try to keep myself busy
but jump every time the phone rings as it could be
our surrogate with either good or bad news.  Every
day she is late brings us nearer to a positive
pregnancy test but it could also be a false alarm as
it was last cycle!

Fertile thoughts and good luck to everyone currently
having treatment.

--
Jayne Frankland


 
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Lisa Girdy  
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 More options Nov 10 1997, 3:00 am
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From: Lisa Girdy <lgi...@mindspring.com>
Date: 1997/11/10
Subject: Re: Roll call

Hi everyone,

I'm Lisa. We have a beautiful 6 year old son and 5 angels. We have been
trying for three years to expand our family. I have been treated with
several cycles of Clomid, Metrodin and Fertinex along with IUI. My last
miscarry was 1 year ago. We start another cycle of Fertinex in late
November.

Happy fertile thoughts to all of you.  I'll keep everyone in my prayers.

Lisa G from Virginia

PS This newsgroup makes me feel better to know that I am not alone.
Especially since all of the information is helpful and positive.

Thank you!


 
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Debra Kattler  
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 More options Nov 10 1997, 3:00 am
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From: "Debra Kattler" <dkatt...@pacificnet.net>
Date: 1997/11/10
Subject: Re: Roll call

We have a two year old daughter conceived with Clomid and IUI.  It took
nine cycles.  I am now on my first cycle using Fertinex.  The IUI was last
Friday so now I'm in the waiting period.

Debra


 
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reece  
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 More options Nov 10 1997, 3:00 am
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From: re...@texas.net
Date: 1997/11/10
Subject: Re: Roll call

Debra,
     I'm beginning to experience those nervous feelings about starting
this up again.  I dread the shots and those long RE appts.  Any
suggestions?
Pam


 
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Intikilla  
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 More options Nov 11 1997, 3:00 am
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From: intiki...@aol.com (Intikilla)
Date: 1997/11/11
Subject: Re: Roll call

Hi.

We have a 9 1/2 year old daughter, concieved with no problem. After that, I
 never resumed my cycles. Tried in 1994 with clomid, got pregnant, but lost him
 into the 12th week. I haven't really been tryin since then, but look forward
 to trying in Feb or March.


 
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DANAHANSEN1  
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 More options Nov 16 1997, 3:00 am
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From: "DANAHANSEN1" <DANAHANS...@prodigy.net>
Date: 1997/11/16
Subject: Re: Roll call

Hi,
I am new to this newsgroup.  My daughter turned 3 in October.  We have been
back on this roller coaster since summer of 96.  I took Clomid in June,
July, August, September and October.  I them took a much needed vacation
until June of this year. I did my first cycle of Fertinex in June,
unsuccessful, had residual cysts and sat out a very long 50 day cycle. I
did the 2nd round, which was unsuccessful and am now on day 24 of a "sit
out"cycle.  I am waiting for AF to show so I can get on with a little more
aggressive treatment.

Dana Hansen


 
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reece  
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 More options Nov 16 1997, 3:00 am
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From: re...@texas.net
Date: 1997/11/16
Subject: Re: Roll call

Hi Dana,
     Welcome to the group.  What is the agressive treatment you will be
starting?  Did you respond well to fertinex?  I know it's hard to try so
hard and come up empty handed each time.  Have the drs told you why it's
difficult for you this round?  
Pam


 
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Valerie Singer  
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 More options Nov 17 1997, 3:00 am
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From: Valerie Singer <valer...@mindspring.com>
Date: 1997/11/17
Subject: Re: Roll call

I don't know if I've posted our roll call yet, but here goes.

We have a 19-month-old daughter courtesy of IVF with donor sperm.

We decided to try ICSI/IVF for a second child, which we did
unsuccessfully in August. I had a period shortly thereafter, but haven't
had one since. Consequently, I haven't been able to start another round
of IVF.

Our clinic shuts down during the month of December, so I'm forced to
wait until mid-January to start again. I feel as if I've been drumming
my infertile fingers on a table for a very long time now.

Valerie


 
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reece  
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 More options Nov 17 1997, 3:00 am
Newsgroups: alt.infertility.secondary
From: re...@texas.net
Date: 1997/11/17
Subject: Re: Roll call

Hi Valerie,
     I certainly understand about drumming those fingers.  I finally was
able to get the dr appt today to get the referral to continue
treatments...thanks to insurance changes.  Doesn't this game sound
familiar?  Now it will probably be my luck that my clinic will not
accept me once my period starts because of the upcoming holidays.  And
I'm finally building myself back up to those shots, etc...
     I hope to find out that what made #1 a miracle will work for #2.
Pam


 
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Alicia Andrews  
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 More options Nov 18 1997, 3:00 am
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From: Alicia Andrews <ali...@alicia.demon.co.uk>
Date: 1997/11/18
Subject: Re: Roll call

In article <3463C5E1.6...@texas.net>, re...@texas.net writes

>Ok folks,
>     There hasn't been much here for awhile, so let do a roll call.

Alicia Andrews in the UK,  son aged 28months conceived with no trouble
at all on second month.  Now trying for this year.  Drs in July - GP
suspected PCO.  Referred to Fertility clinic (how pc);)
Partner (with whom had first child) has low(ish) sperm count.  25
million, 80% motile, 38% normal forms(my clinic looks for 40% so they
don't think this is much of a problem. Aged 33

Me aged 31, subsequent blood tests normal, day 21 progesterone levels 33
and 36 in two tests.  U/s in mid Nov apparantly normal ovaries and
(day12) a 14mm follicle.  No visible PCOS.  PCT on same day not positive
RE suggested  poor mucus too early.   BBTS show signs of ovulation,
menses vary between 23 and 28 days, usually 25 to 28.

Treatment
More blood and semen tests and BBTs to come.  RE  seems to think we are
pretty normal, but just not having sex at the right time.  So why aren't
I pregnant yet...
--
Alicia Andrews


 
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Susan Drews  
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 More options Nov 19 1997, 3:00 am
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From: Susan Drews <104041.3...@compuserve.com>
Date: 1997/11/19
Subject: Re: Roll call

"DANAHANSEN1" <DANAHANS...@prodigy.net> writes: > Hi,
> I am new to this newsgroup.  My daughter turned 3 in October.  We have been
> back on this roller coaster since summer of 96.  I took Clomid in June,
> July, August, September and October.  I them took a much needed vacation
> until June of this year. I did my first cycle of Fertinex in June,
> unsuccessful, had residual cysts and sat out a very long 50 day cycle. I
> did the 2nd round, which was unsuccessful and am now on day 24 of a "sit
> out"cycle.  I am waiting for AF to show so I can get on with a little more
> aggressive treatment.

> Dana Hansen

Hello

I am also new to this newsgroup.  My son turned 3 in August.  I think I must be in the
back seat of the same roller coaster, Dana, as we've been trying since '96 as well.
My problem is that I simply don't ovulate. I did Clomid for 6 months,
one month of Fertinex and still no ovulation.  The doctor switched me to Pergonal and I had
a viable follicle within a week. Followed the rest of the program and just learned today it
was unsuccessful.  I came here looking for a sympathetic ear as I know no
one who is also going through this.  How does everyone keep their spirits up month after month?


 
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reece  
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 More options Nov 20 1997, 3:00 am
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From: re...@texas.net
Date: 1997/11/20
Subject: Re: Roll call

Kent,
     I'm surprised they didn't do a sperm count before the dye test.
Yes, you should have the sperm anaylsis done.  Have they done any blood
work on your dw?  This might open some doors to you also.
Pam


 
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mcahalane  
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 More options Nov 25 1997, 3:00 am
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From: <mcahal...@worldnet.att.net>
Date: 1997/11/25
Subject: Re: Roll call

Valerie Singer <valer...@mindspring.com> writes: > I don't know if I've posted our roll call yet, but here goes.

> We have a 19-month-old daughter courtesy of IVF with donor sperm.

> We decided to try ICSI/IVF for a second child, which we did
> unsuccessfully in August. I had a period shortly thereafter, but haven't
> had one since. Consequently, I haven't been able to start another round
> of IVF.

> Our clinic shuts down during the month of December, so I'm forced to
> wait until mid-January to start again. I feel as if I've been drumming
> my infertile fingers on a table for a very long time now.

> Valerie

This is my first time posting to this (or any) ng.  I'm glad to see something happening here for those of us with
secondary infertility.  Our son will turn 8 in January.  Conceived how?  We really haven't a clue --
I do know exactly WHEN he was conceived (unfortunately, even back then, it was too easy to keep track of those
*whens*).  Had a full-blown period that time after conceiving, so had no clue I was pregnant until about 6-7 weeks into it.
Boy that's hard to imagine now, when every day is fraught with meaning and potential meaning.  We started trying for a
second child back in 93.  Have done most all of the usual diagnostic tests (HSG, endom. biopsy, sa), tried a month or
two with Clomid.  No conceptions, as far as I can tell.  Frustrating for me, because my Mom seemed to be extremely
fertile, my younger sister has had two kids in the time I've been trying (both unplanned!).  
In the meantime, I've had a year off trying while on medication for panic disorder... fun.
I'm about to go back to the RE next week and start again.  I'm just not sure where we'll want to go
with this.  My son is perfect, wonderful, but I still mourn for all the possibilities -- the
other children I'd always assumed I'd have.

Best of luck to all of you.  It is nice to know we're not alone.

Mary


 
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