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9/11 Don't count on the professors. They fit an ugly pattern.

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Seethis Pass

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Feb 1, 2006, 6:27:53 AM2/1/06
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The danger exists that the 9/11 movement will be tricked.
Much can be done by the perps, with a virtually unlimited budget.

Time and again there has seemed to be progress when actually it was
all a trick.
Our CIA played Lucy ( of Peanuts fame ) Time after time yanking the
football away just as we ran up to give a walloping kick.
It's a psyop.
http://www.popular.com.sg/images/product/book/42466.jpg
They would like nothing better than to destroy our will by continual
disappointment as they pull invisible strings.

When the NeoCon faction of the governments top leadership perpetrated
the biggest crime in all of American history on 9/11, they had planned
for years and they had a plan for dealing with the inevitable
skeptics.
They didn't fight or argue against such skeptics.
They didn't try to beat them and thereby lend them credence.
They cranked up web sites and lured the curious in to a web of deceit.

You can fool some of the people all of the time but you can't fool all
of the people, ever.

If you were one of the hundreds of thousands who looked at 9/11 and
recognized the enormous falseness of the entire event,they were ready
for you.
You were met by weaponized information in the form of glaring anomaly
half truth and misinformation.
http://www.breakfornews.com/TheCIAInternetFakes-Part3.htm

The problem with expecting help from the S9/11 group of professors is
that they have weak arguments. On the day before yesterday on this
very newsgroup a poster calling himself Agent 86 did a fine job of
blowing the professors shit all through the house.
They have fallen for some of the weaponized information that was
created to be easily brushed away, taking the 9/11 movement with it.
So far no one has even gotten as much as a parking ticket for
perpetrating the attacks of 9/11 or for allowing them, many of them
have been rewarded for their misdeeds.

Do your own research. Look into the physics of a weakened steel
sagging fall. and disregard all else.
Don't be taken in by any trap, though many traps were set.
The S9/11T group is, one way or the other, such a trap.
We may have a shot at going public but S9/11T does not sound like a
reliable vehicle for doing so.

The treason aspect of the attack is now glaring, and bush is now
obviously a criminal on many other levels according to most of the
public.

Hell, if it wasn't true I'd probably make it all up just to get rid of
this America killing president.

My goal is to be sure that NO ONE EVER wants to be like the NeoCons
again.
Nevertheless, I don't need to make up anything at all.
Bush, PNAC and the NeoCons are liable for some 3000 American murders
and counting.
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Donald Rumsfeld and George Bush believe that they have the right to
use weaponised information, psyops, or even black ops against
Americans,subject only to their own decisions and 'restriction' , as
expressed in Rumsfelds formerly secret "Information Operations
Roadmap"
http://www.localnewsleader.com/brocktown/stories/index.php?action=fullnews&id=132617

We need to verify the status of that assertion and quickly.

Seethis Pass

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Feb 1, 2006, 6:28:15 AM2/1/06
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Fredric L. Rice

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Feb 1, 2006, 11:01:19 PM2/1/06
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Seethis Pass <NotAN...@maxivision.net> wrote:

>The danger exists that the 9/11 movement will be tricked.

<rofl!> What, somebody going to sneak thorazine into your Dr Pepper?

---
"As I stand here right now, I can tell the American people the program's
legal, it's designed to protect civil liberties, and it's necessary."
-- George W. Bush on his felonious domestic espionage treason against us.
The Bush twins: Traditional Christian Family Values at its finest

Charlie

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Feb 2, 2006, 12:41:38 AM2/2/06
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Seethis Pass wrote:

> The danger exists that the 9/11 movement will be tricked.
> Much can be done by the perps, with a virtually unlimited budget.
>
> Time and again there has seemed to be progress when actually it was
> all a trick.

The entire 9/11 truth movement is immersed in a limited-hangout disinfo
campaign. Immersion is the key. People cannot see that in which they
are immersed. (We don't know who discovered water, but we're pretty
sure it wasn't a fish.)

When people look into 9/11 on the internet, they are met with a majority
of 911 'truth' sites (anyone can claim to be a 911 truther) which all
hold similar viewpoints and marginalize (ignore or denigrate) the same
honest + dishonest sites alike. Even among those who've rejected the
government's impossible 9/11 conspiracy theory, people can still be
mainstreamed and otherwise socially steered into avoiding certain
'forbidden' thoughts (such as "holograms"). (As if the most powerful
conspirators plotting the greatest hoax of all time would *never*
consider using modern tools of deception, so we should not, either.)

As with all good disinfo, there is much truth in what they say. But
they also say some things which are not true (propaganda, like when
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/bushlie.html mislabels Bush's
incriminating 9/11 witness statements as lies despite no evidence
whatsoever that Bush was lying) and also they omit some evidence (see
top article at http://sandiego.indymedia.org/en/2006/01/112743.shtml
for an example of "most respected 911 researcher" Jim Hoffman's
omission of the most remarkable image from the Naudet video in one
of his presentations).

This is all done, apparently, in order to (gate)keep all thoughts of
unconventional explanations for 9/11 from ever entering people's
heads.

Dr. Jones is thus far behaving as if he is in league with that
mainstream of 911 half-truth sites. Innocently or not, he seems
to have joined them in trying to apply conventional explanations
for highly unconventional events.

So even though Jones knows full well that "thermite" (aluminum dust +
rust; it reacts rapidly and releases enough heat to melt steel) cannot
account for the huge pyroclastic dust clouds, nor the molten metal
found and yellow-hot steel removed weeks later (his article shows
that hot steel; as if his theory can account for it?!), nor the
fires which blazed for 99 days despite constant dousing with water,
nor the amazing amount of incredibly fine powdery dust that made the
scene look like some kind of "nuclear winter" or something.

Actually, it turns out that there is a form of energy which can
account for all those 4 anomalous bits of evidence: PLASMA.
(see http://startech.net/plasma.html ) In fact, those otherwise
impossible-to-connect dots practically comprise the *signature*
of matter that's been exposed to plasma.

And it doesn't take much imagination to see that if industry can
harness plasma energy into a resusable waste disposal appliance,
plasma energy has probably already been successfully weaponized.
(Perhaps this is what's been meant by the phrase "tactical nukes"
we've been hearing through the years?)

If some kind of plasma weapon was used at the WTC (to help dispose
of the collapsed towers, and to destroy evidence), that should be
testable: there would undoubtedly be an unnatural level of
nanoparticles (remnants of broken molecules) left in the dust.

Dr. Steven Jones has said that he has everything he needs to
test the plasma-weapons-used-at-WTC hypothesis. But he resists
doing so, even as he promotes a "thermite theory" which could
conceivably be consistent with the collapses, but not with the
evidences of the humongous release of heat which came right on
the heels of the collapses (3). (The molten metal found weeks
afterward strongly suggests that either some chemical [or other,
but not thermite] reaction continued to stew for weeks, or else
things were gradually cooling from sun-like temperatures.)

It just doesn't add up. Especially since blaming the impossible
collapses of the towers (and building 7) on "thermite" adds so
little to the state of 9/11 truth (every physics professor must
realize by now that the government's "gravitational collapse"
theory defies the laws of physics), and seems to help distract
from the seeming likelihood that secret weapons systems were
employed in the 9/11 attacks against We The People.

Perhaps the perpetrator-aiding gatekeepers fear that such a
revelation might risk actually waking up We The People?

Seethis Pass

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Feb 2, 2006, 3:42:49 AM2/2/06
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I agree.
We all need to know, that we are not obligated to figure out which
methods they used.
That is currently unknowable, and it's what we argue about .

We only need to show by a preponderance of the evidence that a crime
has occurred.That for one to believe the official story one would have
to deny physics.

In a climate in which national security really mattered to the
government, there would be many ways to get to the truth.

The perpetrators will be found among those who had a hand in the
cover-up.
No one covers up, destroys, confiscates,or ships out of the country on
an emerency basis , evidence in a crime in which he had no part.
Unless, of course he was under orders.

Those who ordered the forensic evidence to be rushed to destruction
know why they did that.
A court should quickly find that out from them.
That is what's in the interest of our real national security.

Vandar

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Feb 2, 2006, 12:33:26 PM2/2/06
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Charlie wrote:

All well and good except for the fact that the dust cloud was in no way
pyroclastic.

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