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nee...@syix.com

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May 28, 2006, 11:51:30 PM5/28/06
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Although Murtha's prior service was admirable, his partisan actions in
Congress are now shameful....

LN

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/27/AR2006052700846_pf.html

Mr. Murtha's Rush to Judgment

Sunday, May 28, 2006; B06

A year ago I was charged with two counts of premeditated murder and with
other war crimes related to my service in Iraq. My wife and mother sat in a
Camp Lejeune courtroom for five days while prosecutors painted me as a
monster; then autopsy evidence blew their case out of the water, and the
Marine Corps dropped all charges against me ["Marine Officer Cleared in
Killing of Two Iraqis," news story, May 27, 2005].

So I know something about rushing to judgment, which is why I am so
disturbed by the remarks of Rep. John P. Murtha (D-Pa.) regarding the
Haditha incident ["Death Toll Rises in Haditha Attack, GOP Leader Says,"
news story, May 20]. Mr. Murtha said, "Our troops overreacted because of the
pressure on them, and they killed innocent civilians in cold blood."

In the United States, we have a civil and military court system that relies
on an investigatory and judicial process to make determinations based on
evidence. The system is not served by such grand pronouncements of horror
and guilt without the accuser even having read the investigative report.

Mr. Murtha's position is particularly suspect when he is quoted by news
services as saying that the strain of deployment "has caused them [the
Marines] to crack in situations like this." Not only is he certain of the
Marines' guilt but he claims to know the cause, which he conveniently
attributes to a policy he opposes.

Members of the U.S. military serving in Iraq need more than Mr. Murtha's
pseudo-sympathy. They need leaders to stand with them even in the hardest of
times. Let the courts decide if these Marines are guilty. They haven't even
been charged with a crime yet, so it is premature to presume their guilt --
unless that presumption is tied to a political motive.

ILARIO PANTANO

Jacksonville, N.C.

The writer served as a Marine enlisted man in the Persian Gulf War and most
recently as a platoon commander in Iraq.

Jimmy B

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May 28, 2006, 11:57:47 PM5/28/06
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Not allowing the truth to be told is an old repuke trick. Why does this guy
scare you so much. Why are you guys so terrified? You already know you are
finished and look for someone to hate. He does not blame the troops like
Condi and he understands what Bush has done to the military and is ashamed
of the worse president in the history of America. Bow your pathetic head you
traitor.

gerry

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May 29, 2006, 12:32:00 AM5/29/06
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Murtha and everyone else in Congress are extras, the real question is
who advised Bush to plan on invading Iraq from Day One in the White
House. The usual suspect is Dick Cheney. More and more, Dick Cheney
is demonstrating a room temperature IQ (in the US, not Iraq during the
hot season). So maybe there is someone else offstage who goaded Cheney
on, maybe the person responsible for Cheney getting the CEO spot at
Halliburton. A lot of maybes, but there is no maybe that the USA is in
big trouble in Iraq, with pyschpathic killers and religious zealots
everywhere in the country. Somehow Saddam Hussein and his hired
killers managed to terrorize the rest of the Iraqi population into
submission.

I am waiting for new geological reports from Iraq to show that Iraqi
oil resrves were vastly and falsely overestimated by Hussein to enable
him to borrow more money from foreign governments. Maybe that is why
Hussein invaded Kuwait in the first place over 15 years ago, to get
Kuwait's proven oil reserves.

Also, using this forum to insult anonymous posters is bad form, real
low class.

Ryd

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May 29, 2006, 12:44:28 AM5/29/06
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Fuck Pantano. He's not relevant to the issue at hand.

The Haditha incident is a real bad one for the Marines and the U.S.
Murtha is a grandstander, to be sure. But the handling of the
investigation so far has been criminal.

The commandant of the Marine Corps sould resign. And some commanding
officers should be charged REAL soon.

Pantano and other righties are just trying to change the subject. The
Haditha incident is pretty much like My Lai, though with far fewer dead
bodies. The genie is out of the bottle. Murtha, as despicable as he is,
is correct about what he is describing.

Ryda

tomhr

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May 29, 2006, 12:44:30 AM5/29/06
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You were falsely accused, so you think these other Marines were too? Go
look up "My Lai," Pantano, and quit being Bushie's buttboy. Meanwhile,
Murtha can probably match you, medal for medal.

Ian MacLure

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May 29, 2006, 12:54:20 AM5/29/06
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"Jimmy B" <jimmy...@xemaps.com> wrote in
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Then why oh why do his peers now refer to him as a "former"
Marine. In case it has escaped you this is not high praise.

IBM

mordacp...@hotmail.com

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May 29, 2006, 1:09:38 AM5/29/06
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Nice try, asshole.

It just means he's no longer on active duty, you stupid fuck.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22former+marine%22

Joseph Welch

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<nee...@syix.com> wrote in message
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> Although Murtha's prior service was admirable, his partisan actions in
> Congress are now shameful....

There's nothing "partisan" about Murtha's actions, you fucking scumbag.

"Patriotism means to stand by the country. It does not mean to stand by the
president or any other public official, save exactly to the degree in which
he himself stands by the country. It is patriotic to support him insofar as
he efficiently serves the country. It is unpatriotic not to oppose him to
the exact extent that by inefficiency or otherwise he fails in his duty to
stand by the country. In either event, it is unpatriotic
not to tell the truth, whether about the president or anyone else."
-- President Theodore Roosevelt

Those who volunteer to serve their country in the United States military are
by understanding agreeing to make the supreme sacrifice in answer to their
country's call - and this is something to be honored by all Americans.

This does not preclude the responsibilty of every American to demand from
our elected and appointed leaders the highest possible standards when
considering whether to send those who serve into harm's way in defense of
this great nation. George W. Bush and his accolytes have grossly failed in
this responsibilty, and it is in honor of those who serve and have died for
this country that we who speak out against this administration do so as part
of our patriotic duty to the United States of America.

George W. Bush and his supporters have helped the 9/11 mass murderers
succeed beyond their wildest dreams. America is divided internally; more
Americans are dead; the world is united against America, terrorism
world-wide has TRIPLED; and the middle-east's newest recruiting and training
ground for terrorists - Iraq - is about to implement a socialist Islamic
theocracy.

Opposing the Bush administration and it's idiotic policies isn't 'treason"
or "unpatriotic - far from it. It is patriotism of the highest order.

"Victory means exit strategy, and it's important for the president to
explain to us what the exit strategy is."
-George W. Bush [Houston Chronicle, 4/9/99]

"I think it's also important for the president to lay out a timetable as to
how long they will be involved and when they will be withdrawn."
-George W. Bush, [6/5/99]

--
George W. Bush has made the terrorists stronger, their influence wider,
their numbers larger, and their motivation to attack the U.S. and other
western interests greater. He has repeatedly abused his authority and
violated his Oath of Office by turning his back on the United States
Constitution; thereby surrendering to the terrorists by underming American
freedoms,values, and the very foundations of our system of government.
Supporting Bush is treason.

***************
JW
***************
"You've done enough. Have you no sense of decency, sir, at long last? Have
you left no sense of decency?"
http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/welch-mccarthy.html


BadBender

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May 29, 2006, 2:36:42 AM5/29/06
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<mordacp...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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No you cum dumpster, once a Marine ALWAYS a Marine. The idea he is referred
to as a former Marine does have meaning.


wb...@bak.rr.com

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May 29, 2006, 3:32:36 AM5/29/06
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What is shameful is a drunken cowardly drug addicted queer as CINC,
not a minute of honor during his entire life and he has dishonored our
nation and our military. The most vile evil of the 21st century is the
GOP, having done more damage to America than Osama could ever dream of
doing. I pray that they all burn in Hell.

Joseph Welch

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May 29, 2006, 4:12:19 AM5/29/06
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"BadBender" <BadB...@sw.rr.com> wrote in message
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> The idea he is referred to as a former Marine does have meaning.

Um - yeah. It means that he's no longer serving on active duty, you stupid
fuck.

Former Marines: Veterans Making a Difference
http://www.corpsstories.com/040325BookFM.htm

Former Marine Barracks
http://www.marinebarracks.com/

Famous Former Marines
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/6350/famous.htm

Famous Former Marines
http://leathernecklane.com/marine/wk/famous.htm

Calling On Former Marines
http://www.nyfd.com/frontpage/Marines.PDF

Former Marines Conquer the Civilian World
http://www.goodtogovideo.com/above_and_beyond.html

Locating Former Marines
http://www.grunt.com/usmc-web/budsearch.asp

Former Marines Out to Teach Leadership
http://www.armytimes.com/story.php?f=1-292313-1033917.php

U.S. Marine Corps Frequently Asked Questions (re: former marines)
http://www.marines.com/page/Resources-FAQ.jsp

"General Michael W. Hagee will induct former Marines Ernie Nevers, Greg
Gibson, and Barney Ross at a luncheon ceremony that will celebrate their
achievements."
http://www.usmc-mccs.org/news/newsstory.cfm?id=14027

Former Marines Eligible for College Fund
http://tinyurl.com/syakr

"Joint Chiefs Vice Chairman Marine Gen. Peter Pace stands surrounded by
former Marines who served with him in Hue City, Vietnam, in 1968."
http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Oct2004/n10072004_2004100702.html

aozo...@aol.com

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May 29, 2006, 6:08:12 AM5/29/06
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gerry wrote:
> Murtha and everyone else in Congress are extras, the real question is
> who advised Bush to plan on invading Iraq from Day One in the White
> House. The usual suspect is Dick Cheney. More and more, Dick Cheney
> is demonstrating a room temperature IQ (in the US, not Iraq during the
> hot season). So maybe there is someone else offstage who goaded Cheney
> on, maybe the person responsible for Cheney getting the CEO spot at
> Halliburton.

http://home.comcast.net/~wizardofwhimsy/myglory.jpg

Jimmy B

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May 29, 2006, 6:25:18 AM5/29/06
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You must be thinking of Daddy Bush and the CIA traitors the Bush family
are.


bob wald

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May 29, 2006, 7:14:29 AM5/29/06
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bush doesn't have to exit iraq. leave that to the next pres. to clean
up.or mess up.
then the history books will make bush look good.but not the next pres.

TKD

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May 29, 2006, 7:38:46 AM5/29/06
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Murtha has 37 years in the Marine Corps and retired as a Colonel.
What were the military career stats on the "Marine" who told him to "stfu"?


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gaffo

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May 29, 2006, 10:12:17 AM5/29/06
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<nee...@syix.com> wrote:

what a fucking crybaby.

I didn't know the Marines were so into recruiting such crybaby pansies
these days.

Suck it up pansy. You have no problem wasting a few ragheads, some
women and a child or two, but some harsh words brings you to your knees.


hillarious.

--

gaffo

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May 29, 2006, 10:15:54 AM5/29/06
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gerry wrote:

> Murtha and everyone else in Congress are extras, the real question is
> who advised Bush to plan on invading Iraq from Day One in the White
> House. The usual suspect is Dick Cheney.

Wolfowitz, Rumsfeld, Perle, Feith and Libby in that order.


and to a lesser degree:

Abrams, Rice, and Hadley

George Washington Hayduke

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May 29, 2006, 12:37:31 PM5/29/06
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<needl...@syix.com> wrote:

>Although Murtha's prior service was admirable, his partisan actions in
>Congress are now shameful....

Yeah, trying to stop baby killing Christian fascist terrorists is
some how "partisan." Yep.

---
Dild O'Reilly: Young Americans "have no idea what's going on
because they get their news from Jon Stewart." <rofl!!!>
http://www.cnn.com/2004/SHOWBIZ/TV/09/28/comedy.politics/ Woops!

ian.mc...@gmail.com

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May 29, 2006, 1:36:23 PM5/29/06
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Joseph Welch wrote:
> "BadBender" <BadB...@sw.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:_Dweg.67273$Qq.5...@tornado.texas.rr.com...
>
> > The idea he is referred to as a former Marine does have meaning.
>
> Um - yeah. It means that he's no longer serving on active duty, you stupid
> fuck.
>

From the following, Murtha is a liar on the face of the evidence-

"Our troops overreacted because of the
pressure on them, and they killed innocent civilians in cold blood."

If they were overreacting because of the pressure on them, they
weren't killing civilians in cold blood, if they killed innocent
civilians in cold blood, they weren't ovrrreacting because of the
pressure on them- A. McIntire

Message has been deleted

Ian MacLure

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May 29, 2006, 5:09:34 PM5/29/06
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wb...@bak.rr.com wrote in news:gk8l729336gd663hn...@4ax.com:

[snip]

> What is shameful is a drunken cowardly drug addicted queer as CINC,

I didn't know Teddy KKKenedy was President? When did that happen.
Dammit go to sleep early just once and there's hell to pay.

> not a minute of honor during his entire life and he has dishonored our
> nation and our military. The most vile evil of the 21st century is the
> GOP, having done more damage to America than Osama could ever dream of

I pretty sure you mean Dhimmicreeps. The party of Jim Crow and
slavery. The party that did not support civil rights. The party
of race and class envy.

> doing. I pray that they all burn in Hell.

I'd prefer they burn here but divine retribution is OK too.

IBM

Jim E

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May 29, 2006, 6:26:02 PM5/29/06
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"Jimmy B" <jimmy...@xemaps.com> wrote in message
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>
> Not allowing the truth to be told is an old repuke trick. Why does this
> guy scare you so much.

No one is preventing from spewing his lies, he has freedom of speech.
And pointing out that he is talking out of his ass is not denial of his
freedom so speech, it is merely pointing out that he is a slave to a failed
dogma.


Jim E


Jim E

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"BadBender" <BadB...@sw.rr.com> wrote in message
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>
Only to a screw cap, it's a semantic tempest in a teapot.

Jim E


Jimmy B

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May 29, 2006, 7:25:03 PM5/29/06
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Those that really believe that what Murtha is saying are lies then you will
soon be eating your ignorant words. Something that will be making you all
out to be fools yet once again. If for one minute you think that perhaps he
is somehow making all this up without a shred of accuracy then you have to
be the most ignorant shiteaters of all time.

This thread will show who are the sheep and want to continue the usual
republican ways of denial that got us where we are now. You are the true
traitors of our country and the ones that deserve the government we now
have. You will go down with this ship of fools and from now on will be
exposing yourselves for what you are really made of.

Anyone want to check in as to what side you are on right now in a roll call
of the ignorant?

I for one don't doubt for one second that this is a pattern that perhaps
started in Falujha when more civilians died in this manner out of revenge in
COLD blood. Premeditated murder because it is obvious that our troops have
been betrayed from the top right on down to the once that post this denial
of the obvious.

The US does not deserve a victory when this type of act is carried out in
the name of peace and America. You have all betrayed America and the flag
and all that we once stood proudly. Now hang your heads in shame all of you
chickenshit cowards.

Murtha is a true patriot. Something that escapes the weak minded losers
that you are.

The PretZel

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May 29, 2006, 7:38:45 PM5/29/06
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On 2006-05-28 20:51:30 -0700, <nee...@syix.com> said:

> Although Murtha's prior service was admirable, his partisan actions in
> Congress are now shameful....
>
> LN

SniP>>

What a bunch of BS.

That's Rightared thinking and Rightarded conclusions for ya. You as a
soldier swear to uphold and protect the constitution of the United
States. How does a Rightard do it? He tells you to Shut the Fuck Up.

Well Rightard? Make me, Mother Fucker.
Murtha IS a Marine, DUMBFUCK.

--
"Whenever the people are well-informed, they can be trusted with their
own government. Whenever things get so far wrong as to attract their
notice, they may be relied on to set them to rights."

- Thomas Jefferson

Jim E

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"Jimmy B" <jimmy...@xemaps.com> wrote in message
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Liberal patriot
Jumbo shrimp


Jim E


The PretZel

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May 29, 2006, 7:45:13 PM5/29/06
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Fuck you, cum dumpster.

Then he IS a Marine. For you or anyone else to say he's a former Marine
means your statement "Once a Marine always a Marine" is no longer
valid. You state the proof by disregarding it, cum-dumpster. Or is it
you put zero though into what you said? Are you Rightarded? Must be....

The PretZel

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On 2006-05-29 04:38:46 -0700, "TKD" <NotAcc...@Emails.now> said:

> Murtha has 37 years in the Marine Corps and retired as a Colonel.
> What were the military career stats on the "Marine" who told him to "stfu"?

Career Neocon toilet licker and Bush crime family Cocksucker.

Joseph Welch

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<ian.mc...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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to as a former Marine does have meaning.
>>
>> Um - yeah. It means that he's no longer serving on active duty, you
>> stupid
>> fuck.
>>
>
> From the following, Murtha is a liar on the face of the evidence-
>
> "Our troops overreacted because of the pressure on them, and they killed
> innocent civilians in cold blood."
>
> If they were overreacting because of the pressure on them, they
> weren't killing civilians in cold blood, if they killed innocent
> civilians in cold blood, they weren't ovrrreacting because of the
> pressure on them-

Damn, you right-wingers are some stupid, psychotic, unAmerican fucks.

Joseph Welch

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"Jim E" <YD65...@sea.edu> wrote in message
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> No one is preventing from spewing his lies

What lies?

The PretZel

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May 29, 2006, 10:39:25 PM5/29/06
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Tempest has been kicking your ass since at least 2002 when I started.

Jim E

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Some days you make sense, you're wrong, but you make sense.
Today isn't one of them.

Jim E


NakedTruth

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May 29, 2006, 11:17:29 PM5/29/06
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One thing for sure, there hasn't been a major terrorist attack in the US
since 9/11.
Maybe Bush is doing something right.


DCI

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On Mon, 29 May 2006 23:17:29 -0400, "NakedTruth" <na...@Hotmail.com>
wrote:

>One thing for sure, there hasn't been a major terrorist attack in the US
>since 9/11.
>Maybe Bush is doing something right.
>

If there were a terrorist attack and the culprit(s)'s country of
origin could be positively identified, I would not want to be anywhere
near the bombing pattern by US forces thereafter.

DCI

Rich Travsky

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May 30, 2006, 12:02:11 AM5/30/06
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HAHHAHAHA!

John Agosta

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"NakedTruth" <na...@Hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> One thing for sure, there hasn't been a major terrorist attack in the US
> since 9/11.
> Maybe Bush is doing something right.
>
>

How idiotic !

How often were "major terrorist attacks" happening before 911?
You and your bethren repeat this as if Bush had actually put an end to some
sort of pattern/trend.

Bush has done nothing right, except making it easy for his corporate cronies
to fill their pockets at our expense.

And now the world hates us. Bush took 911's good will towards the USA and
just flushed it down the bowl.

James Of Tucson

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May 30, 2006, 1:15:49 AM5/30/06
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So the code of honor among marines is really only among those marines
who agree with one another? Semper Fi unless it's not? Gotcha.

jmcgill

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May 30, 2006, 1:38:36 AM5/30/06
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If we are not at war with Iraq, then the Marines should be subject to
Iraqi law. Which means that if they are suspected of a crime, they
should be tried in an Iraqi court, under Iraqi law. It is *always* the
policy that troops and civilians alike obey the policy of the country
hosting them. Apologists for these Marines should be glad that the
rules are being bent for them, and they are being investigated by their
own legal system, instead of being held for trial under Iraqi law, by
Iraqi authorities.

jmcgill

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May 30, 2006, 2:16:00 AM5/30/06
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tomhr wrote:

> Murtha can probably match you, medal for medal.

There are few who can match Murtha, and none of them would denounce him.
Two Purple Hearts from the same tour, and a Bronze Star with Combat "V".
Nobody who is worthy to look Congressman Murtha in the Eye and call him
a traitor, would even consider doing any such thing.

jmcgill

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May 30, 2006, 2:17:55 AM5/30/06
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TKD wrote:
> Murtha has 37 years in the Marine Corps and retired as a Colonel.
> What were the military career stats on the "Marine" who told him to "stfu"?

And why wasn't he man enough to do it in person? Look him in the eye
and tell him?

jmcgill

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May 30, 2006, 2:18:57 AM5/30/06
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boo radley wrote:
> "Truth is the daughter of Time."
>
> Horseshit, the likes of Ollie North are referred to as a FORMER marine ALL the
> time.
> Get lost lowlife jerkoff, semper fi.

What did they call Oswald and Whitman?

Roy Blankenship

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"NakedTruth" <na...@Hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> One thing for sure, there hasn't been a major terrorist attack in the US
> since 9/11.
> Maybe Bush is doing something right.

That is about the dumbest post I have seen in months.


Sid9

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BadBender wrote:
> <mordacp...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1148879378....@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> Ian MacLure wrote:
>>> "Jimmy B" <jimmy...@xemaps.com> wrote in
>>> news:Qr2dnfFKNrW...@comcast.com:
>>>
>>>> Not allowing the truth to be told is an old repuke trick. Why does
>>>> this
>>>> guy
>>>> scare you so much. Why are you guys so terrified? You already know
>>>> you are finished and look for someone to hate. He does not blame
>>>> the troops like Condi and he understands what Bush has done to the
>>>> military and is ashamed of the worse president in the history of
>>>> America. Bow your pathetic head you traitor.
>>>
>>> Then why oh why do his peers now refer to him as a "former"
>>> Marine. In case it has escaped you this is not high praise.
>>
>>
>> Nice try, asshole.
>>
>> It just means he's no longer on active duty, you stupid fuck.
>
> No you cum dumpster, once a Marine ALWAYS a Marine. The idea he is

> referred to as a former Marine does have meaning.

Murtha, is a true hero, who has spoken out, well knowing the criticism and
attacks he would be subject to.

Murtha is a patriot.

Those of you who criticize him are unpatriotic scum will to let more of your
fellow Marines die in a futile, mismanaged, bush,jr war.


ง_MANOMAN_ง

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"The PretZel" <sour...@saltwithmustard.com> wrote in message
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Bush took an oath too but decidered to ignore it.


The PretZel

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posting in political News Groups.
...Better?

firel...@hotmail.com

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John Agosta wrote:
> And now the world hates us. Bush took 911's good will towards the USA and
> just flushed it down the bowl.

Much of the world loved the US while they saw it in the
role of victim - it was a role they cherished for themselves,
and it made them feel good to think of the US as humbled.
That good feeling faded quickly when they realized that
the US doesn't do "victim" anywhere near as well as it
does "scary monster that you really, really should not
poke with a sharp stick".

--
Walt Smith
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Joseph Welch

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May 30, 2006, 12:58:01 PM5/30/06
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"NakedTruth" <na...@Hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> One thing for sure, there hasn't been a major terrorist attack in the US

> since 9/11.
> Maybe Bush is doing something right.

There hadn't been a major foreign sponsored terrorist attack in the U.S.
after the first WTC bombing, only a month after Clinton took office (planned
under Bush 41).

I guess Clinton was doing something right.

Jim E

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May 30, 2006, 3:28:04 PM5/30/06
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"The PretZel" <sour...@saltwithmustard.com> wrote in message
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On top of everything else, you suffer from delusions of relevance.

Jim E


Miguel O'Pastel

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May 30, 2006, 3:14:18 PM5/30/06
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"NakedTruth" <na...@Hotmail.com> wrote in message
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| One thing for sure, there hasn't been a major terrorist attack in the US
| since 9/11.
| Maybe Bush is doing something right.
|
|
|
There hasn't been an elephant stampede either.
M

Rog...@webtv.net

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May 30, 2006, 4:13:04 PM5/30/06
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Re: Mr. Murtha told to STFU by Marine

Group: alt.impeach.bush Date: Mon, May 29, 2006, 8:06pm From:
YD65...@sea.edu (Jim E)
.........................................................................
no it is because he is a former marine jim you silly faggot I was a jar
head for 8 long years and can say with pride i am a ex jar head
by the way in the 8 long years that i was in the marines i never
did find out what the once a marine always a marine shit was all about
!!
my best guess it has something to do with losers whose only big
accomplishment in life was making it in which is pretty fucking pathetic
but still more then your loser president ever did

BE OBSCENE BABY !!!!!!!!!!!

George Washington Hayduke

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May 30, 2006, 9:10:18 PM5/30/06
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"Jim E" <YD65...@sea.edu> wrote:

>"Jimmy B" <jimmy...@xemaps.com> wrote in message
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>> Not allowing the truth to be told is an old repuke trick. Why does this
>> guy scare you so much.

>No one is preventing from spewing his lies, he has freedom of speech.

LOL! Yeah, it's when they speak the truth that your baby killing
Christian Fuhrer denies people their Constitutional rights.

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If you’re gay and you know it clap your hands.

George Washington Hayduke

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May 30, 2006, 9:10:19 PM5/30/06
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"Jim E" <YD65...@sea.edu> wrote:

>"BadBender" <BadB...@sw.rr.com> wrote in message

>> No you cum dumpster, once a Marine ALWAYS a Marine. The idea he is
>> referred to as a former Marine does have meaning.
>Only to a screw cap, it's a semantic tempest in a teapot.

You've just proven that you've never served. But of course you didn't.
You're a dog fucking Christian Republican.

George Washington Hayduke

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May 30, 2006, 9:13:54 PM5/30/06
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"NakedTruth" <na...@Hotmail.com> wrote:

>One thing for sure, there hasn't been a
>major terrorist attack in the US since 9/11.

Nor a major oone before September 11'th.

Did you accidentally forget that fact?

Republicans Hate America

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May 31, 2006, 3:17:43 AM5/31/06
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On Tue, 30 May 2006 00:11:27 -0500, "John Agosta"
<j_agosta@remove_wideopenwest.kom> wrote:

>Bush has done nothing right, except making it easy for his corporate cronies
>to fill their pockets at our expense.

You got that right; the Oil companies have made 340 Billions so far
enabled like junkies with this illegal war which has created
instability in the Middle East to give themselves excuses to gouge
suckers at the pumps.

How about the Defence Contractors

A war which has killed tens of thousands of civilians in Iraq not to
mentioned the latest 24 killed in cold blood by those marines. This
story will cause massive World Wide Revolt against the US.

So much for winning the hearts and minds of Iraqis

How many more killing of civilians like this has been covered up by
the Pentagon while they can't be prosecuted in an International Court
of War Crimes. I wish to see the top chain of command being tried in
this court for their war crimes.

A war based on lies, propaganda and bullshit.

If Bush and the rest of his war criminals including himself cared so
much about Human Rights Abuse by Saddam then why do they turn a blind
eye to so many others i.e. Massive slaughter and displacement of
Millions in Darfur

Jimmy B

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May 31, 2006, 5:32:07 AM5/31/06
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The only reason it got out to begin with is because there was an Iraqi
student with a Video camera who showed the tape to several human rights
groups. The Iraqis have know about this for 6 months since it happened. We
stupid Americans are lied to and are less informed then the people we are
killing. The ones that are now living in the dark ages with one hour a day
of electricity.

Jimmy B

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May 31, 2006, 5:35:21 AM5/31/06
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Some of these guys will defend Bush to the end. I am curious to see just
who the most ignorant ones actually are. They won't be missed by me when
they have to crawl back into that spider whole of lies they live and believe
every day. Sad bunch that's for sure.

Republicans Hate America

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May 31, 2006, 1:44:44 PM5/31/06
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On Wed, 31 May 2006 05:32:07 -0400, "Jimmy B" <jimmy...@xemaps.com>
wrote:

Apparently the only survivor from this slaughter was a 12 year girl
who witnessed it and played dead so the Marines wouldn't kill the only
live witness (herself). This brave girl has good survival instincts.

However, she will be emotinally fucked up for the rest of her life.

I guess that's what Bush and Rumsfeld hypocritically say: "Winning the
Hearts and Minds of Iraquis."

These killings of Irqi civilians only fuels more motivation for more
recruitments of Terrorrists "Revenge from so much pain is a great
motivation."

Since this war has started more Terrorists attacks and more
recruitment of them has happened not less.

Yeah I can just hear it from the Chickenhawks, Repugnant Cunts but no
one has attacked the shores of America since 9/11; tell that one to
European countries which have large immigrant population from the
Middle East; which by the way didn't join this illegal war.


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Jimmy B

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May 31, 2006, 2:19:07 PM5/31/06
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I think there was another young boy from another house that survived. The
translations given about what the girl said was that she hoped the ones that
did this were tortured and killed. I seriously doubt there will be any
children that grow up to feel any good from all this. I am sure this war
will never turn out well no matter how long the US is there. Like in Israel
the schools will have to teach one flavor of history. There will be no truth
taught to the future children of Iraq. The books will have to be written by
one side. This is exactly what has been going on for decades. They destroy
the old schools and build new ones. The winners of the wars get to write the
history books.

Rich Travsky

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May 31, 2006, 11:41:16 PM5/31/06
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And what pattern would that be? Level the cities? What? The 911
perps came from Saudia Arabia. How much bombing did Bandar Bush do
there?

RT

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