Go Sarah, Go....Thousands cheer Palin in Mich. for book tour
Oath Keeper
skipped work and some huddled in the cold overnight just to make sure
they get an orange wristband Wednesday that would let them meet Sarah
Palin.
Thousands gathered outside a Barnes & Noble and chanted "Palin! Palin!
Palin!" for the kickoff of the former Republican vice presidential
candidate's "Going Rogue" book tour, which has taken on the feel of a
political pep rally.
"She's a person of faith, she has a family, she has gone through a lot
of the trials and tribulations we have. I'd vote for her in a
heartbeat," said Lana Smith, a dispatcher at a bus company who took
the day off work and had been waiting in line since 5:30 a.m.
"Someday I hope her name is up in lights and I'll have had the
privilege of meeting her," Smith said.
County music played as Palin's tour bus, painted to resemble the cover
of her book, pulled up to the Woodland Mall in Grand Rapids.
"I just can't tell you how good it is to be back in Michigan," the
former Alaska governor told the crowd, which chanted "Palin! Palin!"
"Alaska and Michigan have so much in common, with the huntin' and the
fishin' and the hockey moms, and just the hardworking, patriotic
Americans who are here," Palin said.
Wearing a "Palin Power" bumper sticker across her red sweat shirt, 72-
year-old Rachel Baragar praised Palin's honesty and down-to-earth
manner.
"She could be your next door neighbor," said Baragar, of Caledonia.
The memoir was released Tuesday but has topped best-seller lists for
weeks. At the Barnes & Noble, about 1,000 orange wristbands were
handed out, allowing wearers to get two copies autographed by Palin at
the three-hour signing event.
College students Megan Patzky of Racine, Wis., and Sarah Cranmer of
Chicago waited in line overnight and skipped their Wednesday classes
at nearby Calvin College to get an autograph. Patzky planned to give
the signed book to her father for Christmas.
After standing in the cold all night, Patzky and Cranmer were happy to
get into the mall around 6:15 a.m. "We were hoping that someone would
start selling coffee, but nobody did," Patzky joked.
"Going Rogue" follows Palin from childhood to her departure last
summer as Alaska governor. The title refers to her independent streak
as a candidate, stemming from complaints within the campaign of GOP
presidential nominee John McCain that she had gone "rogue" by
disagreeing with the campaign's decision to pull out of Michigan last
October.
McCain halted his campaign in the state after internal polls showed
Obama approaching a double-digit lead. Palin publicly disagreed with
the move and said she'd "sure love to get to run to Michigan" to make
sure residents know the Republicans had not given up in the state.
Before the pullout, Palin had campaigned with McCain in Grand Rapids.
Her three-week book tour is expected to largely mirror the 2008 race
with stops in cities such as Noblesville, Ind.; Washington, Pa., and
Rochester, N.Y.
Many of those waiting at the Michigan bookstore said they would vote
for Palin if she decides to run for president in 2012.
"I believe she's a good, strong person to do the things we need to do
in this country," said David Zak, 70, who drove about two hours to see
Palin. "I like her Christian philosophy. I like that she's pro-life. I
believe she can do what needs to be done to get ahead."
from:
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20091119/D9C28MC00.html
American Patriot
lies like government is too intrusive?
Fucktard
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VAzOIT4Ef8&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hZtW_q_6Ug
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pulxb3_W3U8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRV5Y1JCGRI&feature=related
"sittingduck" <du...@spamherelots.com> wrote in message
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> Just for fun, contrast the drivel that spews from the mouth of sarah liar,
> and her brainless followers to the common sense and reality based thinking
> of
> Joe Biden.
>
> http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-november-17-2009/joe-biden-pt--1
> http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-november-17-2009/joe-biden-pt--2
>
Vash the Stampede
>
>> "She could be your next door neighbor," said Baragar, of Caledonia.
>
> Isn't it sad to see so many blind, ignorant fools parroting the bullshit
> talking points that have been shoved in their faces by the corporate
> media?
It is. It is really, truly sad.
I think there should be boycotts on NBC, ABC and CBS.
Also, MSNBC, and most certainly Katie Couric, Meredith Viera and Rachael
Madcow.
As long as they keep spewing their bullshit, the masses will never really
know what Obama's up to.
I never thought you'd come to your senses, duck. I figured *you* would
just keep spewing pro-Obama nonsense. Gald to see you're finally coming
out of The Trance.
swiggy
news:pan.2009.11.20....@2AM.cn...
Funny, that sounds like what the libs were saying about Limbaugh for the last
decade or so, and more recently Fox network.
So how does it feel to join the libs?
SWIGGY
TJM <>
> As long as they keep spewing their bullshit, the masses will never really
> know what Obama's up to.
>
>
LMAO! So tell us, what does Rush tell you he's up to? Classic, truly.
Vash the Stampede
I dunno. I haven't listened to Rush for about a year.
I get mine straight from NBC, ABC and CBS. I don't need to have it
filtered for me, I can see the bullshit just fine as it is.
Vash the Stampede
GAAAAAAAAH!!!! GO WASH YER MOUTH OUT WIT' SOAP!!!!!!!
Vash the Stampede
> Hey STUPID Extremist Uneducated American Terrorist, why do you have to
> hate all the America's FREEDOMs hehehehe.
I don't. That's why I'm praying Obama never gets reelected.
Vash the Stampede
> Vash the Stampede wrote:
>
>> I think there should be boycotts on NBC, ABC and CBS. Also, MSNBC, and
>> most certainly Katie Couric, Meredith Viera and Rachael Madcow.
>
> Why do you hate people that are obviously far smarter than you? And
> idolize those that are clearly of sub-par intelligence?
>
>> As long as they keep spewing their bullshit, the masses will never
>> really know what Obama's up to.
>>
>> I never thought you'd come to your senses, duck. I figured *you* would
>> just keep spewing pro-Obama nonsense. Gald to see you're finally coming
>> out of The Trance.
>
> Obama IS a pro! Unlike the dismal failures the republicans gave us last
> time around, things are getting done now.
He's so far in over his head that down looks like up to him. He hasn't got
a clue, and neither do the people assisting him.
And, it's more like things getting UNdone. He goes on a spending rampage,
and then says government spending may cause a double dip recession. He's
about as much of a 'pro' as Carter.
Vash the Stampede
> sittingduck <du...@spamherelots.com> wrote:
>
>> Vash the Stampede wrote:
>>
>> > I think there should be boycotts on NBC, ABC and CBS. Also, MSNBC, and
>> > most certainly Katie Couric, Meredith Viera and Rachael Madcow.
>>
>> Why do you hate people that are obviously far smarter than you? And
>> idolize those that are clearly of sub-par intelligence?
>
> Hahaha I don't think the STUPID Extremist Uneducated American Terrorist
> be
> able to figure it out.
I don't hate people that are smarter than I. I'm just wondering when the
FUCK we're going to start seeing some!
>
>> > As long as they keep spewing their bullshit, the masses will never
>> > really know what Obama's up to.
>> >
>> > I never thought you'd come to your senses, duck. I figured *you* would
>> > just keep spewing pro-Obama nonsense. Gald to see you're finally
>> > coming out of The Trance.
>>
Newsbot
anewt...@gmail.com says...
> College students ditched class
>
fucking republican slackers
Vash the Stampede
>
> "Vash the Stampede" <Tri...@2AM.cn> wrote in message
> news:pan.2009.11.22....@2AM.cn...
I'm a little thinner now. And not entirely on the top...
Vash the Stampede
> swiggy wrote:
>
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>> Attachment decoded: vash_magazine.jpg
>
> Damn, that's almost exactly how I pictured someone like him to look.
Trouble visualizing an American?
Vash the Stampede
> Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 23:53:54 -0800
> From: sittingduck <du...@spamherelots.com>
> Lines: 10
> Message-ID: <Xns9CCAF31B845B8du...@nomail.afraid.org>
> NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 07:54:01 UTC
> Newsgroups: alt.impeach.bush,alt.politics,alt.binaries.humor.skewed
> Organization: CHAOS
Kind of a little late to be thinking of impeaching Bush, isn't it?
But, you left wing L00Ns just don't give up.
If you really want to impeach someone, have a look at who's in the WH now.
Oh, I forgot. He's "popular". For some reason, he doesn't seem to want to
go to Copenhagen, even if it means saving the planet. Wonder why?
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Vash the Stampede
> Hey STUPID Extremist Uneducated American Terrorist, you should listen to
> Rush as Rush is your brain and the brain of GOP.
Nah. I can think for myself.
More people should try thinking for themselves. Then yahoos like Obama
wouldn't get elected to offices they aren't fit to clean.
Vash the Stampede
> Hey STUPID Extremist Uneducated American Terrorist, you should pray to
> have some brain to do some thinking like other instead of praying for
> thing needs not to pray.
No, we really need to pray that the truly stupid people never again elect
a President like Obama, who's in so far over his head that Down looks like
Up.
He's just about paralyzed now. All he can do is appear on TV shows and try
to win some of his popularity back.
swiggy
"Vash the Stampede" <Tri...@2AM.cn> wrote in message
> On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 23:53:54 -0800, sittingduck wrote:
>
>> Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 23:53:54 -0800
>> From: sittingduck <du...@spamherelots.com>
>> Lines: 10
>> Message-ID: <Xns9CCAF31B845B8du...@nomail.afraid.org>
>> NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 07:54:01 UTC
>> Newsgroups: alt.impeach.bush,alt.politics,alt.binaries.humor.skewed
>> Organization: CHAOS
>
> Kind of a little late to be thinking of impeaching Bush, isn't it?
> But, you left wing L00Ns just don't give up.
Nah. Nazi leadership were either imprisoned or executed long after Hitler left
office. I'm sure that the peace loving libs wouldn't mind letting Judge Lynch make
a decision on Bush.
> If you really want to impeach someone, have a look at who's in the WH now.
> Oh, I forgot. He's "popular". For some reason, he doesn't seem to want to
> go to Copenhagen, even if it means saving the planet. Wonder why?
There is a number of people that want to introduce him to Judge Lynch as well.
SWIGGY
swiggy
news:pan.2009.11.22....@2AM.cn...
Vash, I'm really surprised at your replies to goal-posts. Remember what Twain said
about arguing with idiots: that nutcase is trying hard to drag you down to his
level.
SWIGGY
Butteye_Jest
Obama is just way way too far over your head; Hell, almost everybody is
over your head. What's it feel like to be drowning in shit anyway?
--
Ole Butteye
Butteye_Jest
sittingduck <du...@spamherelots.com> wrote:
> Butteye_Jest wrote:
>
> >> No, we really need to pray that the truly stupid people never again
> >> elect a President like Obama, who's in so far over his head that Down
> >> looks like Up.
>
> >> He's just about paralyzed now. All he can do is appear on TV shows and
> >> try to win some of his popularity back.
>
> > Obama is just way way too far over your head; Hell, almost everybody is
> > over your head. What's it feel like to be drowning in shit anyway?
>
> What really pisses them off, is the fact that Obama is totally unruffled by
> all their pedantic whining. For some reason it just makes them whine and lie
> even more....
This is right out of a book I studied called "dealing with difficult
people" and it works like a charm when dealing with ugly asshole bullies
and other types.
You don't expect to have to deal with people that can't be reach in
normal ways so it's a study. But when their manipulative games stop
working, it's all beautiful.
The fact is that attacking them, which we do well, only pushes them
further away and really hurts them. That's what the whining is all about.
Watch, I'll demonstrate it.
--
Ole Butteye
Taco Bell Comes With Snot
>On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 13:52:58 -0600, ||IllI|| wrote:
>Nah. I can think for myself.
LOL. You voted for the Bush Christofascists. You lose.
---
10-year-old boy rejects Republicanism: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rbfs0EVsHbs
Does belief in astrology cause insanity? http://www.skeptictank.org/edm.htm
Vash the Stampede
> Vash the Stampede <Tri...@2AM.cn> wrote:
>>On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 13:52:58 -0600, ||IllI|| wrote:
>
>>Nah. I can think for myself.
>
> LOL. You voted for the Bush Christofascists. You lose.
Nope. I didn't. For 8 years I did not vote in a Presidential election.
Nice try. There are some parting gifts at the door.
The second election the ONLY reason I could see fit to vote was that Laura
deserved to be First Lady more than Therezzzzzzza.
I stayed home...
Vash the Stampede
>> Nah. I can think for myself.
>>
>> More people should try thinking for themselves. Then yahoos like Obama
>> wouldn't get elected to offices they aren't fit to clean.
>>
>>
>>
> Vash, I'm really surprised at your replies to goal-posts. Remember what
> Twain said about arguing with idiots: that nutcase is trying hard to drag
> you down to his level.
>
> SWIGGY
Hey, Swig, I tilt at windmills, too! ;)
Vash the Stampede
> Vash the Stampede wrote:
>
>>> Damn, that's almost exactly how I pictured someone like him to look.
>> Trouble visualizing an American?
>
> What makes you say that?
> I visualized you correctly, because anyone as ignorant <SLAP!>
as ignorant as voting for Obama, and being PROUD of it?
Vash the Stampede
>> No, we really need to pray that the truly stupid people never again
>> elect a President like Obama, who's in so far over his head that Down
>> looks like Up.
>>
>> He's just about paralyzed now. All he can do is appear on TV shows and
>> try to win some of his popularity back.
>
>
>
> Obama is just way way too far over your head; Hell, almost everybody is
> over your head. What's it feel like to be drowning in shit anyway?
Oooo-kayyyy. You can believe that if you like.
He's going to make Carter's Presidency look like a walk in the park. At
least there was something to recover when it was over. This guy's going to
do more damage in 4 years than anyone could ever imagine.
The only shit I'm drowning in is the Bullshit Obama and his entranced
minions are spewing.
Vash the Stampede
> Butteye_Jest wrote:
>
>>> No, we really need to pray that the truly stupid people never again
>>> elect a President like Obama, who's in so far over his head that Down
>>> looks like Up.
>
>>> He's just about paralyzed now. All he can do is appear on TV shows and
>>> try to win some of his popularity back.
>
>> Obama is just way way too far over your head; Hell, almost everybody is
>> over your head. What's it feel like to be drowning in shit anyway?
>
> What really pisses them off, is the fact that Obama is totally unruffled
> by all their pedantic whining. For some reason it just makes them whine
> and lie even more....
Who needs to lie? You can't *make* this stuff up!
Let us know when you come out of The Trance and see the Emperor's new
clothes for what they are. I expect I'll have a long, long wait.
Vash the Stampede
>
> The fact is that attacking them, which we do well, only pushes them
> further away and really hurts them.
Your toilet paper degree in psychology is stuck to your shoe...
The only thing that's going to hurt me is Obama shoving legislature down
our throats we don't need at this point in time, selling our future to the
Chinese, and ruining what litte there is left to US manufacturing.
Unfortunately, it will hurt you, too. Keep cheering, though. He needs all
the mindless wrecks he can get right now. Everyone with a brain has
abandoned him.
Vash the Stampede
> Vash the Stampede wrote:
>
>>> Damn, that's almost exactly how I pictured someone like him to look.
>> Trouble visualizing an American?
>
> What makes you say that?
> I visualized you correctly, because anyone as ignorant as yourself,
> probably eats like a pig, and has no concept of how to take care of a
> human body. It shows.
You know, this is what I have come to expect from "Liberals". All you have
is to attack me for the way I look. So what? I'm not the most handsome
person in the world, but I have a good heart and a lot of friends. I have
a lot of friends because I treat people fairly, and I don't put them down
because of the way they look.
It used to be Liberals were all about Humanity and doing what they could
for other people. I don't particularly like Puerto Ricans, but when I saw
a PR and his wife trying to shove their broken down Jimmy out of the way,
I pulled over and helped, and told her to get in the driver's seat and
sterr the thing off the road. I bet you were one of the 100 people that
drove by watching while her husband and I pushed.
Liberals used to be about helping Humanity, but all I see from this bunch
of losers is helping Themselves. I bet you couldn't care less about 12
million illegal aliens without health care, or the 12 million Americans in
the same boat. The government is going to give something away, and I bet
you and Bullshit Eye will be the first two in line with your hands out.
You can have it, and have mine, too, because I don't WANT the government
handing anything to me.
What else do you want the government to do for *you* ?! I bet you're all
for taking money from people who have *earned* it, and taxing the
daylights out of them, so *YOU* can get a slice of the pie.
You're a greedy bunch of freeloaders, that's all I see from Liberals
lately.
Roy Blankenship
You are stuck on this idea that somehow, you are the only one who works for
a living, and you resent people who get handouts from the government.
Meanwhile, Goldman-Sachs took your taxpayer money and they are laughing at
you right now, but you are too busy being pissed at people on welfare to
notice. Why don't you wake up and figure out who is really screwing you? It
is not the poor who have nothing. The bonuses that Goldman-Sachs is paying
this year after being bailed out by your hero, BUSH, would pay for social
welfare for 30 years. The Republicans don't care about you, get that through
your thick head.
Butteye_Jest
"Roy Blankenship" <point...@earthlink.net> wrote:
Yeah, follow the money.
Trillions of dollars on the unnecessary wars too.
--
Ole Butteye
Vash the Stampede
>> You're a greedy bunch of freeloaders, that's all I see from Liberals
>> lately.
>
> You just keep proving your ignorance.... Your constant regurgitation of
> rightwing talking points shows a serious lack of an ability to think for
> yourself.
> People like you have no concept of eating right, because of the crap that
> you've been trained to eat is all you know. Try to think outside of the
> box someday, FFS.
I would, but I might end up zombefied like you.
What 'talking points' would those be? I don't need anyone to give me
'talking points'. I live in one of the most Liberal area of the couintry,
and they're all just like you; hand wringing people saying what can WE do,
but what they really should be saying is, What can we do for ourselves?
I'm not the one marching in lock step with Obama, Pelosi and their ilk.
I didn't march in lock step with Bush. I don't do what the Party tells me,
or think what the Party tells me to.
You think I'm brainless, if I were you I'd take a long hard look in the
mirror. Perhaps you'll wake the fuck up someday, but I'm not going to hold
my breath.
Vash the Stampede
>> > What else do you want the government to do for *you* ?! I bet you're
>> > all for taking money from people who have *earned* it, and taxing the
>> > daylights out of them, so *YOU* can get a slice of the pie.
>
> You are stuck on this idea that somehow, you are the only one who works
> for a living, and you resent people who get handouts from the government.
> Meanwhile, Goldman-Sachs took your taxpayer money and they are laughing at
> you right now, but you are too busy being pissed at people on welfare to
> notice.
I am? Really? Where'd you get this marvelous insight?
I'd definitely see a doctor if I were you. Your optic nerve seems to be
attached to your rectum.
So, what is this marvelous version of the government doing about it?
Limiting pay? THAT'S where you want America to go?
You should be ashamed to even think of yourself as an American. Ever read
the Declaration of Independance? HINT: It DOESN'T say, "To each according
to his needs, from each according to his means."
Roy Blankenship
"Butteye_Jest" <benda...@gotdaTshirt.com> wrote in message
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Yes, and somehow, the propagandists have successfully gotten the
"know-it-alls" to believe the problems in this country come from gay
marriage, immigrants, and people on welfare. People they will never meet,
people who want to work, and people who have nothing.
Topaz
No Way Out But Through the Jews
A Review of Paul Gottfried's The Conservative Movement
by Alex Linder
Executive summary: The Jews have taken over the American right, and
they have the money and media access to shut out any contenders.
Meaning: Unless you build a movement that explicitly forbids Jewish
participation and focuses on Jews as the political enemy, you are
destined to be coopted or crushed. Or at least rendered impotent, like
the Old Right, and left broke and fuming on the sidelines. Caveat: The
Internet isn't accounted for in Gottfried's calculus.
...the review
In his 1993 book The Conservative Movement, Jew Paul Gottfried
provides an excellent short history of post-WWII conservatism, and one
that provides a clear, if implicit, message for today's White
nationalist. That message is the title of this review: No way out but
through the Jews. If you plan to pursue the political goal of a
civilized White America, these Jews will be at your throat every step
of the way. So you might as well not kid yourself about that but set
your phaser on "kill" from the start.
Gottfried never comes right out and says it, but the upshot of his
history is that the right has been taken over by Jews. Centered around
the Podhoretz and Kristol families, this Jewish movement pushes an
anti-American ideology. Where George Washington and Thomas Jefferson
advocated no entangling alliances abroad and local rule at home, the
neocons promote a plus-sized managerial state at home, and global
democratic crusades abroad. Since their infiltration in the late
sixties, early seventies, says Gottfried, these Jewish "conservatives"
have garnered the lion's share of money and media access,
marginalizing the traditional right. And although he nowhere mentions
talk radio or the Internet, Gottfried sees virtually no options at the
disposal of those who would usurp the usurpers.
Who are the neoconservatives? Essentially, they are a small group of
East Coast Jewish intellectuals of regular private morality. They are
former reds or red-diaper babies who departed from the New Left when
it started advocating odd sex and communism and other policies they
felt were potentially anti-Semitic. As they emerged from this sixties
morass, they gravitated to the right, where they found allies in the
anti-communist cause; friends with foundation money that could be used
to construct a bulwark against their crazier New Left brethren. Over
the course of the seventies, the Jewish neoconservatives took over one
foundation after another, supplanting the Christian traditionalist
bias of American conservatism with their detailed policy studies and
position papers. These bore proof of their sociological and
statistical cast of mind, different from the Kirkian
religious-literary bias of traditionalists.
By the time of Reagan, they had achieved dominance. Any conservative
hoping to make a career of it, whether in politics or writing or
commentating, had to hew to their specific vision of the America they
wished to conserve if he wished to preserve his own office, air-time
or sheet space. Any vestigial strains of racial feeling or regional
sympathy were anathema to these racist philo-Semitic anti-racists who
are unstinting in their anathematizing of anyone who diverges from
their pluralist, democratic dogmas. Any American, that is. The
dogmatic democratic pluralism disappears when it comes to Israel,
where Semitic chauvinism is, quite rightly they think, the law. What
White racialists want for America is no different from what Jewish
neoconservatives want for Israel. But they will try to shout down
anyone who makes the equation, just ask Joe Sobran. Only Jews have a
right to an ethnostate; democratic pluralism is good enough for the
rest of us. This hypocritical double-standard springs directly from
the gut Jewish feeling that an America made up of many conflicting
groups, riven by cultural standards, divided by ethnicity, history and
behavior, is the America in which the Jew is safest, and can move
about most freely. A strong, sure White nation scares the Jew. So
whether it's America or Europe, he tries to undercut it with
anthropological lies about the unreality of race, falsified histories
("diversity has always been our greatest strength") support for open
immigration, suppression of free speech and the destruction of free
association-all in the name of "civil rights." Neoconservatives are
Jews, no need to look further than that. Jews, whether left or right,
ask only one question: Is it good for the Jews? They hide behind
universalist rhetoric, but their concern is for themselves. And you
can be absolutely sure of this: Their interests are not our
interests..
David Horowitz would be a prime example of an expert deployer of a
plausible, counterfeit theory and history of America to suck in
potential White racialists and get them four-square behind a nutty,
extremist, ahistorical view of politics that can only lead America
into South Africa's pit of horrors. The triumph of individual rights
in Black lands means the triumph of the jungle. It is extremist,
rationalist and counter-historical to elevate a political process over
the character of the people. How can ignorant, 75-IQ blacks produce
civilization protecting the individual rights these neoconservatives
claim to love? Can one-man, one-vote really produce that miracle? Of
course not, and these Jews know it. And they know that the Founders
knew it. So they lie. The truth, as they know and cover up, is that
the Founders understood that only civilized, self-controlled White men
were capable of civilization, and that to expect dissolute, lazy,
TV-drenched slobs mixed with mulattoes and Negroes and Mexicans to
vote in ordered liberty was to expect the impossible. But David
Horowitz, living in Los Angeles, can look out the window and tell you
it's possible. Never underestimate the power of Jewish duplicity in
furthering Jewish self-interest. That's a second corollary to
Gottfried's study.
We asked above whether or not these neoconservative Jews were really
conservative. Perhaps that question isn't important. One point
Gottfried does develop, writing in 1993, is just how little difference
there is in today's political discourse between left and right. As I
write, George W. Bush is battling Al Gore, so the point is hardly
stale. Effectively, the left and right may differ in degree, but
everybody supports a capitalist welfare state and global democracy.
Everybody is "inclusive." Everybody bows before the great God of
Diversity. Are the Jews conservative? In the deeper sense, no. They
are still radicals, intent on spreading their lies about human
fungibility, from which they aone are exempt as the "Chosen" people.
Left or right, they are eager to destroy our White civilization to
further their group interests.
On the second most important political issue of the day-leaving the
borders open to the third world-the Jews speak with one voice: no
patrols. Note this well: Never in American history has a majority of
Whites favored colored immigration. The Jews alone favored it, for
reasons outlined above. Now whose policy is followed today? -- that of
the Jewish minority, which doesn't think like you and I do. You
thought the majority was supposed to prevail in a democracy? Wrong.
Political control in a democracy, as Aristotle observed, is vested in
those who control television. This is part of what certain Americans
are getting at with the 'ZOG' formulation that all the
pseudo-sophisticated college-educated folk laugh at (as TV has taught
them to). The Jews almost to a man push open-borders immigration, and
they denounce anyone who differs as an evil racist/nativist/xenophobe.
All the Jewish lies dovetail intellectually, and all of them advance
Jewish interests. I recommend, I urge, I wish I could force everyone
who hasn't to read Kevin MacDonald's paper on the Jewish influence in
the hundred years of debate preceding the nation-killing 1965
immigration act that opened the floodgates to the third world. The
Jewish hatred of the White world is the story that doesn't make the
news, even as it remakes your neighborhood. I doubt the plush-paunched
Republicans watching TV politics as spectator sport will ever pick up
on it. You will run a long way before you meet an average American
with the slightest historical awareness-nor the interest in developing
one. But the arguments are lying there, exactly as I've presented
them, and perhaps in a crisis people will take a hard look at what
brought us to our current position. For all the disinformation out
there, it's still not too hard to detect the patterns once you have
the facts. . .
So we've seen that Jews claiming themselves "conservatives" but not
all that different from their leftist brethren have come in and
dominated the right. Where does this leave whatever is left of the
non-Jewish right? I would break this set into two subsets: those who
are openly racist (which Gottfried avoids) and those who make veiled
or open Semitically Incorrect arguments while attempting to maintain
their "respectability." The former have no political power, while the
latter are desperate to hang on to their columns and speaking
engagements.
Although there are a handful of Jews pushing standard White-racist
arguments, and who would receive even less notice than they do get if
they weren't Jewish, these same never take into account that Jews can
never simply be another ethnic group assimilated into a purified White
America. The nature and qualities and history of their group shows
just that-they are a group. And since they are a group that recognizes
itself as a group and fights against other groups on that basis-they
must be opposed as a group. This is not so much guilt by association
as guilt by genetics and behavior and history. As a group they have
strategized to destroy the civilized White America they felt
threatened by, and anything we do to them in return is more than
deserved. Treating them as individuals, just like we are, has failed.
The correct path is to treat them as the radical alien outsiders and
eliminate their influence. We need to take their flag off the
courthouse, so to speak.
Getting back to the lesson at the top of the page, Jews have so
strategized their evolution (see Kevin MacDonald's work) as to be
considerably more intelligent than their hosts, with an average IQ of
115, a standard-deviation above the White mean. This intelligence and
their proven historical character combine to ensure Jews will always
be the yeast, the irritants, the makers-uncomfortable, the
revolutionaries. Wherever they exist in White society they will be a
force for disruption. The fact that some can exist as peaceful ethnics
among the White majority does not negate this Big Truth (for if there
can be Big Lies, there can also be Big Truths). Because
class-arguments can be abused, and because injustice will be meted out
to individual non-Whites when we rebuild civilization, the Jews
enforcing their dogma of individualism will always have points to make
that resonate with our myopic right-wing individualists. But just as
surely as these Jews averted their eyes from the general horrors
ensuing in South Africa after their racial-and-political equality
dogmas were enacted, the pro-White right must be louder than ever in
showing that their ethnic Jewish self-interest can only end in the
extinction of the White race. Really. Those are the stakes.
The media neoconservatives can't afford to admit the evidence of the
failure of their dogma in South Africa, rape and murder capital of the
world; rather they redouble their insistence on individualism to evade
the Big Truth that colored demographics and political democracy doom
White minorities everywhere. And taking a global perspective-as we are
all supposed to do, nowadays-the White race is a small minority, and
growing smaller every day. Our White kinsmen are already being
butchered in their homes and driven off their farms in South Africa
and Zimbabwe. Literally tens of millions of Whites have become victims
of violent Black assault in America since the Jew-eased passage of
"Civil Rights" legislation. The Jews well know these facts, and that
is why they avoid reporting them. They hated South Africa when it was
ruled by civilized Whites. They don't give a damn what happens to
Whites once their beloved Negroes are carrying the whip. Foolish,
foolish White man-will you not wake up while there is time?
What we are discussing is a very simple: the Jews are a class fighting
to dominate other classes, just as Benjamin Stein saw in his report on
the TV Weltanschauung, The View from Sunset Boulevard. Jew Stein, like
Jew Michael Levin (Feminism and Freedom), will never name his people
as that class, pointing to "writers and producers," "feminists," and
"neoconservatives." (It is really truly amazing the way that Jews are
able to camouflage their interests, always presenting their specific
goal as a general good, and that their terms are tacitly accepted in
their opponents' rhetoric. It's like we all are under contract to
agree that the Jews aren't a group and don't have any specific
interests and certainly don't work to advance those interests and even
if they do, they aren't in conflict with ours. But notice that on the
flip side, the opposite conditions obtain: Jews always attack their
opponents by class (right-wing Christian extremists, racist haters,
Arabs), lingering lovingly on the specific interests of their
undifferentiated opponents; always forestalling counter-arguments as
"anti-Semitism" driven by the only motive Jews ever allow their
opponents-all together now-"hate." The Jews can only get away with
this clever I-criticize-you-and-you
criticize-that-bag-of-flour-over-there setup because they exert
extraordinary control over television and newspapers. And their backup
line of defense, of course, is to denounce anyone who notices the
strategies behind their tactics as an anti-Semitic conspiracymonger.
This is a second aspect of what the 'ZOG'-minded are pointing to.
Stein is writing about the class of TV writers and producers;
Gottfried is writing about neoconservatives; Levin is writing about
feminists. All of them mean Jews, none of them can afford to say it.
When you become a Jew, it's almost as though you have to sign a sheet
saying you will either avoid mentioning negative Jewish
characteristics or-pace Marx and Freud-reinterpret specific, offensive
Jewish behaviors or patterns as generically human: i.e., repression,
or characteristic of an exploited class. (An excellent book, The
Ordeal of Civility, by John Murray Cuddihy, covers this topic in
depth.) The one thing none of these rightist Jews wants is a civilized
White society where Jews are nonexistent. Or ghettoized. Or looked
down on socially. Or in which you are free to speak and write and talk
about Jews as specific people who act, look and think in generalizable
ways. Jews may be physically ugly duplicitous socialist troublemakers,
but they don't want you saying that. They will propagandize through
the schools and TV until you are practically unable to notice it
because the whole context in which you might make such an observation
has been destroyed. They will make hard to find the few books that
dare discuss it. (Just try finding Cuddihy's book.) History is nothing
but a propaganda tool to them. In living memory they were kept out of
the better hotels and clubs and colleges, and since treatment of the
Jews, to Jews, is the true measure of civilization, any time they were
legally or socially treated as other than the God-sent gift they
present themselves (that is, all history up until about fifty years
ago) must be falsified into Dark Ages (Jews out of power) preceding
today's Enlightened Age (Jews running the show). Let alone the
ghettoes of old Europe, these people are capable of portraying the
fifties in America as some sort of racist hellhole, saved only through
heroic Blacks led by saintly Jews in the name of civil rights or
federal tyranny, if you prefer your descriptions accurate. What is
clear to every Jew seems to be unclear to most White Americans,
especially those on the right who ought to know better:
this is a war of classes, a war for power and dominance between a
small but smart and well-positioned ethnic group and the vast majority
of civilized White people. The Jews instinctively recognize this
battle, feel it in their blood, and are fighting hard for their side.
Most on our side aren't even aware a war is going on.
Gottfried points to two symbolic episodes that show the transfer of
power from the traditional right to the neocons: 1) Rockford's firing
of John Neuhaus, and his subsequent denunciation of traditionalist
racism and anti-Semitism among the Old Right; and, 2) the neocons'
successful defeat of M.E. Bradford, a traditionalist historian, as
head of the National Endowment of Humanity. What was the traditional
right to do? Basically, it retreated, licked its wounds, and looked
about in search of allies and money and media outlets. What has
happened, and this is clearer now than when Gottfried completed the
book, is that the American political system under Clinton has gotten
so corrupt that even average people began to notice. This alone has
strengthened the traditional right's never-too-strong confidence, and
strengthened its new ally, the libertarians, too. And both sides have
benefited hugely from the Internet, which at once strengthens small
groups and somewhat threatens established media institutions. By 2000,
there were enough ganglia of pro-Whites on the Internet to get
mainstream Jewish groups scribbling "hate crimes" model statutes,
anti-gun legislation, and politically correct browser censorware at
top speed.
It might have been expected that the loss of power and funding would
have resulted in the radicalization of the traditional right, at least
to the point of open talk about taking the American right back from
the Jews. There was very little of such talk, none of it open-at least
among those with one eye on "respectability," that ever leftward
moving boundary observed by fools.
What we still see on the right in the year 2000 are leading non-Jewish
right-wing Whites couching what they know to be racial arguments in
regional or race-neutral terms. Sam Francis speaks of Middle American
Revolutionaries. He means Whites, but he's afraid to come out and say
it. Of course, he gets called racist just the same. And he got fired
from the neocon Washington Times just the same. But Jews, to him, are
just people with a different religion, and he can still find a way to
fit minorities into that Middle American revolution.
Then there are the various Southern separatist groups. All are
carefully non-racial. All get accused of being racist. All fail to
draw the correct conclusion. It is amusing in a sick and increasingly
irritating way. Is there nobody left who can think clearly and isn't
afraid to voice his conclusions publicly? No, the Southern Semitically
Correct separatists present as sorry a face as they always do. Always
trying for that elusive respectability, always failing to achieve it,
and always losing the few-and merely symbolic-battles they do engage
in. For people who brag incessantly "on" their heroic Confederate
ancestors, they show little courage and less intelligence.
I'll say it again, a little louder now, so Johnny Reb can hear me:
THERE IS NO WAY OUT BUT THROUGH THE JEWS. IT DOES YOU NO GOOD TO BE OR
PRETEND TO BE NON-RACIST. YOU ARE THREATENED AS A GROUP, BY A GROUP,
AND YOU'D BETTER GET THOSE GROUPS STRAIGHT IN YOUR HEAD TO HAVE ANY
HOPE OF PRESERVING THE LAND AND PEOPLE YOU LOVE.
A little more on the Southern-rights groups. The left always froths
over them, as though people too scared and powerless to say what they
mean openly are going to achieve anything. This frothing is more a
measure of media boredom and the fact that the left is so dominant it
has forgotten what real opposition feels like that it goes overboard.
The left so buys its own frothing demagoguery it can't even realize
these people have ceded the essential point before they even start
arguing. Pity the poor Southern separatist. He can't even keep the
flag in the air or the Blacks from pooping on the statue of his
great-grandaddy. Even with all that Confederate heroism running in his
blood, he's still selling his problem as Northerners, not Blacks. As
though America hasn't been homogenized by TV into one big mall or
airport lobby. As though the guy in Arkansas is worried about the
White man just over the Missouri line, more than the Black next door.
How pitiful and obvious he is, our man of gray, thinking the media
will buy that he's really not racist. He can't see that it doesn't
matter in the slightest if he isn't, and if he is, he's contemptible
for not arguing openly. Ditch the gray and go for black and white,
Southern Man.
How many times does the right have to learn that the media really is
controlled by Jews, by intimidation where not by ownership; that Jews
really are leftist; and that anyone preaching anything remotely
resembling White pride gets treated like a human showing emotion in
Invasion of the Body Snatchers (that is, squawked at and pointed out
to the cops by the aliens who are taking over the planet) - so that he
might as well oppose the Jew's anti-White hatred openly. You can't win
where the other guy defines the terms, sets the labels, interprets the
law. You must oppose him openly, directly, explicitly and give him no
quarter. Why are you always on the defensive? Could it be the same
reason you always lose? Here we come to a deep-lying problem with
conservatism. First of all, nobody's ever satisfactorily defined it. A
branch of that problem is that there is no philosophical basis for
incorporating political attack. A new conservatism must be envisioned
that incorporates not merely the preservation of custom and tradition,
but one that can accommodate formless spiritual or psychic drives that
are even more important than patterned behaviors: questing,
exploration, simple competitiveness. Even blood-lust. What could be
more conservative than blood-lust? But where do you find it among the
Republicans; over at the Jew-intimidated National Review? Among the
foundation-based low-tax remonstrators?
The funny thing is that once you say, Yes, I am a racist. Just like
George Washington. And you are a White-hating Jew-the poison is drawn.
They have set the terms of this political game we all play, and only
by refusing to play do we stand a chance of winning. It is utmost
foolishness, as anybody who has published conservative articles
anywhere in the world will tell you, to try to escape the racist tag.
You can't, and in any case it ain't a meaningful word, people-it's
just a way to smear and discredit you. Fight the smearers and
discrediters directly, refuse to play on their terms. Love and
fairness no more conquer hate than they conquer bullets. Prefixing
your conservative arguments with "I'm not a racist, but..." and
expecting to achieve your political goals is like one of those African
rebel guerillas smearing himself with magical pig grease thinking it
will stop bullets.
Apart from your opinion of the Nazis, consider their tactics. Did they
win-democratically-by adopting the tactics of the respectable American
right, or did they gain converts by their physical courage and their
willingness to confront the Jew-led communists? How much worse can the
Old Right do than it is doing right now? Not much. The mainstream
right-as I write, G.W. Bush and the Republican convention are in full
swing, every other speaker addressing the hall is a colored-has
decided to ape the liberals. In the words of the song, Freedom's just
another word for nothing left to lose. Well, what on earth do the Sam
Francises and Thomas Flemings and the Pat Buchanans have left to lose?
A column in an obscure magazine? A speech to a few dozen like-mindeds?
Is it possible they will turn to effective tactics out of sheer
boredom? Sam Francis (you'll serve as representative here), how could
you possibly do worse than you are doing now by openly criticizing
Jews instead of making pusillanimous attacks on East Coast elitists
and New World Order bureaucrats? How could you possibly fare any worse
by defending the Black-and-White truths of the Founders in
black-and-white terms?
Then you've got the libertarians, trying to get government off our
backs without any recourse to racial explanations or group interests
in explaining human behavior. Trying to understand the world one
person at a time. Some of these libertarians are products of Silicon
Valley, and to the extent they philosophize, they are Randian
individualists. They believe in free trade and free movement of
peoples, and make no distinctions between them. Libertarians seem to
instinctively turn away from any historical recognition of the
circumstances under which the freedoms they demand were actually
realized. Even their few (and in many ways impressive) intellectuals
who are interested in history tend to fall in line with the
politically safe Jewish lie about the non-racial aspect of our
founding, building their future utopias in that tired old,
misunderstood, misrepresented "all men are created equal."
Politically, libertarians are laughable, beyond their useful ability
to supply policy papers. Imagine a whole bunch of computer geeks and
economics professors marching on Washington under the fear-inspiring
banner of "Me!" Now there's an Army even our heroic neo-Confederates
could take! Libertarians maybe never will realize that, again I yell,
BLOOD AND RACE ARE WHAT MOVE PEOPLE, NOT THE RIGHT TO SMOKE DOOBIES
AND BUGGER YOUR BOYFRIEND. NOT EVEN ECONOMICS. Am I really the only
idiot to notice that when Whites ruled America, White people were
free? And that when Jews and Blacks rule America, they're slaves? But
most "right-wing" libertarians would rather support a minimum wage
hike than acknowledge this simple historical fact. They are too
rationalist in temperament, too much like our liberal dictators. Too
in love with their idea of
people-as-individuals-in-the-low-tax-multicultural-utopia-of-tomorrow
to pay attention to street-level political and historical reality.
Many of us want individual liberty, but it only obtains under certain
circumstances. There sure doesn't seem to be much of it around in
these days of "civil rights" for everybody except the people who
created the idea of 'em in the first place. If there's anything that
gives the lie to what passes for "conservatism" these days, it's right
here: Genuine civil rights-association, property, speech,
self-defense-were much better protected in the days before the prating
Jews and their colored parasite minions rose to the fore. Yet
recognition of the race-based nature of practical, effective, genuine
freedom will get you kicked out of the Libertarian party faster than
you can say Don't Do Drugs!
Libertarians take one aspect of looking at the world and inflate it
into the entire cosmos. This is their built-in bias. When you combine
it with their standard right-wing fear of crossing the Semitical
Correctness line, you have a second hurdle between them and racialism.
The conservative Christians share these political flaws. Their concern
is not for the race or the group, but for the salvation of the
individual soul. Of course, since in years past the Good Book has been
used to support virtually every position under the sun including
communism, there is a bit more hope for their conversion on the racial
issue, should the powers that be change. TV Christians have proven
able adopters of the Semitically Correct line. Israel is good and
racialism is bad. That's the message they're getting from New York,
and that's the message Pat Robertson is putting out to rural North
Carolina. The libertarians have their hated parties, but these are
always anonymous "bureaucrats" or "statists," or "socialists"-never
anyone you can actually get your hands on. Same with the Christian
conservatives. They are the equivalent of the libertarians in that the
former are excellent at certain types of economic reasoning (Why We
Should Privatize Trash Collection) while the Christians retain solid
moral and character-development advice. They are both good on the
small-picture stuff. But neither group can take a realistic look at
the general; they are both concerned about saving Heaven or Liberty
one soul at a time. They both simply refuse to make necessary
generalizations.
Christians, again like Libertarians, invariably throw their
opprobrium on carefully generic targets: Atheists, secular humanists
(gays are the one exception, and even here they say "Hate the sinner,
not the sin," as though that doesn't conflict with their doctrine of
free will). A Jew or a black or a Mexican is a vivid image,
immediately recognizable. The abstractions countered by the Christians
and the libertarians are creatures that nobody would recognize on a
public street. They are fighting abstactly against abstractions,
instead of coherently for something concrete.
Never do the Christians go after the Jews who are killing their
doctrines; never do they speak the name of their real enemy despite
the spittingly obscene provocations to which he has subjected them.
This is why, with tens of millions in numerical advantage, the
Christians aren't even masters of the civilization they created. In
fact, much of the leadership class of the Christians has become so
enthralled with Jewish ideas that now the church will bend any which
way the Jews require, whether it's removing the Commandments from the
classroom the way the Jew judge and Jew-created and -run ACLU tell
them to, or rewriting history to avoid the fact that Jews condemned
their own Savior to die (as in the revised [read: Semitically Correct]
Passion Plays)! They may think they are only turning the other cheek,
but self-abasing worms is what these new Christians truly are. This
used to be a religion whose adherents killed others in glorious
crusade for their Truth, and died at the stake before renouncing their
Faith. Today, the biggest name in Christendom hobnobs with nutty
Buddhists and faxes apologies to Jerusalem. For all its residual focus
on humility and self-discipline (welcome antacids to the Jewish public
school lies about self-esteem, which is really self-absorption and
self-worship; in a word, selfishness), the Christian church in America
is today furthering the racial evils that Jewish ideologues,
especially those misappropriating the name conservative, have
subjected us to. Pat Robertson has no problem with those influxing
Mexican chicken-pluckers heaping his collection plates, and has
publicly advocated miscegenation as the long-term solution to our
racial ills. If he preached miscegenation as a sin, as his hardier
forebears did, he would be burned at the stake. Pardon me, I mean, he
wouldn't be on TV. The fact that any evangelicals are on TV at all is
conditioned on their support for Israel and their multiracialism. This
is what makes their leaders despicable-not the hypocrisy and
White-trashiness the left and right would have us sneer at them for.
Recently Bush's first national campaign ad aired. It shows him at a
school surrounded by little black and brown kids, all well on their
way to becoming the computer programmers and doctors and lawyers and
Republicans of tomorrow. It seems the GOP has made up its mind which
way it's going. It's everyvato's party; down with the homies, too.
Make any show that persuades in order to capture power. The old
Clinton strategy. After all, reality is that waves of wets wash over
the border every night, and at some point they and their kids will
vote. The bulk White population is fading, and the core demographic
supporting conservative principles simply won't be there to swing a
presidential election in another ten years.
Even Jew-genuflecting National Review has noticed this Californication
of America, as has been termed in a different context. But sucking up
to the powers that be, angling for a spot, doing what he's told, is
something the middle-manager mind that makes up the Republican ranks
well understands. Ya got to roll with the punches, ya know?
White man, you have to decide. If you choose not to decide, you still
have made a choice, to make a phrase. You can pull a Christian
Scientist, and pretend that that brown spot on our national chest will
just go away if we think positive thoughts long enough, refuse to
acknowledge it. But it won't. Those coloreds swamping the border,
those grasping welfare niggers, those lying Jewish press manipulators
won't disappear of their own accord. Twenty years from now, George
Bush-Brown will be president, and all the things you fear today-
your kids blood-libeled at school; yourself discriminated against on
the job; your taxes higher than ever; your wife subject to insults,
rape or assault; your big cities gang-dominated; your small cities
dominated by nigger "music" and clothing pollution; your guns
outlawed; your political opinions criminalized; your TV louder and
more intrusive and hateful-will be worse. As Paul Gottfried shows,
but doesn't tell, the same Jews that have made the present possible
are working hard to make this future inevitable. But there is still a
window of opportunity. But only if you recognize that we-you and I
and the others reading this-are part of the White race, share
interests, and must band together. And that, politically, culturally
and socially, to achieve a civilized future, there is
NO WAY OUT BUT THROUGH THE JEWS!
http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/v1/index5.htm
http://www.ihr.org/ www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/
http://www.natvan.com http://www.nsm88.org
http://heretical.com/ http://immigration-globalization.blogspot.com/
Leo
"Topaz" <mars...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> No Way Out But Through the Jews
> A Review of Paul Gottfried's The Conservative Movement
> by Alex Linder
>
>
Cut and paste tossed in the toilet.....
--
It never fails to amaze me that the Godless Democrats and the Liberal Press
can elevate a shrew like Hillary Clinton to near sainthood while on the same
hand demonizing a moral and Christian lady like Sarah Palin to the Second
Coming of Satan.
swiggy
> A Review of Paul Gottfried's The Conservative Movement
> by Alex Linder
>
> Executive summary: The Jews have taken over the American right, and
> they have the money and media access to shut out any contenders.
> Meaning: Unless you build a movement that explicitly forbids Jewish
> participation and focuses on Jews as the political enemy, you are
> destined to be coopted or crushed. Or at least rendered impotent, like
> the Old Right, and left broke and fuming on the sidelines. Caveat: The
> Internet isn't accounted for in Gottfried's calculus.
<snipped>
is this supposed to be some parody of Chanukah?
SWIGGY
Topaz
Judeo Christians think it is the "end times" even though it has been
the "end times" for over two thousand years so far. They think the one
and only hope is for Jesus to return and straighten everything out.
And a big part of the plan is the destroy the world. They think wars
and everything being blown up is a great thing because it means Jesus
will return soon.
Marxists were murderous lowlifes but they said religion is the opium
of the masses. There obviously is some truth to that. Enemies often
have some truth in their arguments. On top of the opium there is the
Jewish propaganda started by Scofield.
Christians are great for telling what some of the problems are, such
as homosexual perversion, feminism etc. But to actually solve these
problems one should look elsewhere. Who do Christians hate the most,
first Hitler and then the Muslims. These are the two who actually
solved the problems that Christians are famous for speaking against.
Maybe the Muslims go a little overboard but they are the opposite of
liberalism. There is no way that "Brokeback Mountain" would be shown
in a Muslim country.
swiggy
religious groups or are you just a born again christian that this is a bit of
humourous satire that has to be brought out to all?
SWIGGY
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DamOTclese
>Judeo Christians think it is the "end times" even though it has been
>the "end times" for over two thousand years so far.
More, the uneducated ignorant masses of humanity have been proclaiming
"end times" since before writing was invented, going back 100,000 years
when proto-writing consisted of impressing shapes in to clay. There
are always idiots who think that the unavoidable eventuality of their
own deaths means that *everyone* is going to die as well.
Occult stupidity has been the bane of humanity always.
---
The Virgin Mary was raped.
Topaz
<swiggy_m...@comcast.net> wrote:
>Then wouldn't it be more effective to bring this up in the various and sundry
>religious groups
It needs to be brought up here. Religious beliefs do affect politics,
asshole.
> or are you just a born again christian that this is a bit of
>humourous satire that has to be brought out to all?
>
http://www.ihr.org/ www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/
Leo
"DamOTclese" <fr...@skeptictank.org> wrote in message
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> Topaz <mars...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Judeo Christians think it is the "end times" even though it has been
>>the "end times" for over two thousand years so far.
>
> More, the uneducated ignorant masses of humanity have been proclaiming
> "end times" since before writing was invented, going back 100,000 years
> when proto-writing consisted of impressing shapes in to clay. There
> are always idiots who think that the unavoidable eventuality of their
> own deaths means that *everyone* is going to die as well.
>
> Occult stupidity has been the bane of humanity always.
>
You self appointed pseudo intellectuals are living in quite a fantasy land.
DamOTclese
It's called "Having an education." Don't be jealous just because
not everyone is a fucking occult moron like you are.