Estrogen in Contraceptives Threatens Fish Populations
Johnny Asia
THURSDAY, Nov. 11 (HealthDayNews) -- Long-term exposure to the
synthetic estrogen ethynylestradiol can shrink fish populations, says
a study in the December issue of Environmental Health Perspectives.
The study found that, even at levels below those currently found in
the environment, the synthetic hormone can damage the ability of male
fish to fertilize eggs. Ethynylestradiol is a form of estrogen used in
oral contraceptives.
The researchers exposed three generations of zebrafish to low
concentrations of the hormone. After 210 days (a full zebrafish
lifetime) of exposure to the hormone, second-generation zebrafish
showed reduced fertility. Out of nearly 12,000 eggs spawned, none were
viable.
Further study revealed the second-generation male zebrafish had normal
testes but did not produce expressible semen. But they still displayed
normal reproductive behavior patterns and competed with healthy male
zebrafish for mates.
The findings suggest that ethynylestradiol has more of an effect on
the development of the testes in male fish than it does on their
reproductive behavior. This could have serious consequences for fish
populations because infertile males could interfere with successful
breeding by healthy males.
"Previous studies in fish have shown that endocrine disruptors can
reduce sperm counts and induce female-specific proteins in males,"
Environmental Health Perspectives science editor Dr. Jim Burkhart said
in a prepared statement.
"But until now little evidence existed to show that environmentally
relevant concentrations of endocrine disruptors could induce such
changes and actually reduce fertility," Burkhart said.
Johnny Asia
Breaking News and Commentary from Citizens for Legitimate Government
November 12, 2004
All links to articles as summarized below are available here:
http://legitgov.org/index.html#breaking_news
The Unexplained Exit Poll Discrepancy --by Steven F. Freeman, Ph.D.
"As much as we can say in social science that something is impossible,
it is impossible that the discrepancies between predicted and actual
vote counts in the three critical battleground states [Ohio, Florida,
and Pennsylvania] of the 2004 election could have been due to chance
or random error... The likelihood of any two of these statistical
anomalies occurring together is on the order of one-in-a-million. The
odds against all three occurring together are 250 million to one. As
much as we can say in social science that something is impossible, it
is impossible that the discrepancies between predicted and actual vote
counts in the three critical battleground states of the 2004 election
could have been due to chance or random error."
47 State Exit Poll Analysis Confirms Swing Anomaly --by Jonathan Simon
"In the 12 critical states (CO,FL,MI,MN,NE,NV,NH,NM,OH,PA,WI,IA) the
average discrepancy was a 2.5% red shift (= total movement of 5.0%),
nearly twice that in the safe states. This in spite of the fact that
the average sample size in the critical states was nearly twice that
in the noncritical states and should have produced significantly more
accurate results."
Others raised red flag over Gaston turnout --Commissioners want to
know why oversight went unnoticed for days --A state elections
official e-mailed Gaston Elections Director Sandra Page on Friday to
question the county's election results, four days before Page
announced that she had discovered the results were wrong. It was one
of at least four inquiries Page received before her Tuesday
announcement that 12,000 early votes were accidentally [sic] omitted
from the results.
2 N.C. candidates request recount --Feds to check out flaws in
Mecklenburg, other N.C. counties --With all except a few thousand
votes across North Carolina counted Wednesday, two Council of State
candidates asked for a recount and one of the races was still close
enough that it could force a new statewide election. Meanwhile,
federal authorities intend to look into election troubles in
Mecklenburg and coastal Carteret County to determine whether any
activity warrants a criminal investigation, the Observer learned
Wednesday.
'Patriot' Vote Machines in S.C. Malfunction Lancaster County counts by
hand after malfunction --1,600 absentee ballots could affect some
races (Thu., Nov. 04, 2004) Huddled in the basement of the Lancaster
County Administration Building, election officials late Wednesday were
manually tallying results of about 1,600 absentee ballots. A
malfunction with Patriot [LOL!] voting machines stopped the
computerized tally late Tuesday night about a third of the way
through, and elections officials said they were unable to restart the
procedure.
+
"The power of accurate observation is called cynicism
by those who have not got it." - G. B. Shaw
The First Church of Common Sense
http://www.angelfire.com/co/COMMONSENSE/
The Rise and Fall of the Holy Roller Empire
The God-Awful Truth about Christian Zionism
http://www.angelfire.com/co/COMMONSENSE/armageddon.html
Johnny Asia
By Omar Anwar
BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Aid agencies called on U.S. forces and the Iraqi
government to allow them to deliver food, medicine and water to
Falluja on Friday and said four days of intense fighting had turned
the city into a "big disaster."
The Iraqi Red Crescent Society, which receives support from foreign
agencies including the Red Cross and UNICEF, said it had asked U.S.
forces and Iraq's interim government to let them deliver relief goods
to Falluja and establish medics there.
Scores of buildings in Falluja have been completely destroyed, with
TV footage showing some districts all but leveled. There has been no
water and electricity for days and food shops have been closed,
residents say. The stench of dead bodies is hanging over some areas of
the city, the say.
HIT BY SHRAPNEL
U.S. commanders say civilian casualties have been low, but residents
dispute that, describing incidents in which non-combatants, including
women and children, have been killed by shrapnel or hit by bombs.
In one case earlier this week, a 9-year-old boy died after being hit
in the stomach by shrapnel. Unable to reach a hospital, he died hours
later of blood loss.
"Anyone who gets injured is likely to die because there's no medicine
and they can't get to doctors," said Abdul-Hameed Salim, a volunteer
with the Iraqi Red Crescent. "There are snipers everywhere. Go outside
and you're going to get shot."
Rasoul Ibrahim, a father of three, fled Falluja on Thursday morning
and arrived with his wife and children in Habbaniya, about 20 km (12
miles) to the west, on Thursday night.
He said families left in the city were in desperate need.
"There's no water. People are drinking dirty water. Children are
dying. People are eating flour because there's no proper food," he
told aid workers in Habbaniya, which has become a refugee camp, with
around 2,000 families sheltering there.
BlackWater
Asia) wrote:
>Estrogen in Contraceptives Threatens Fish Populations
>
>THURSDAY, Nov. 11 (HealthDayNews) -- Long-term exposure to the
>synthetic estrogen ethynylestradiol can shrink fish populations, says
>a study in the December issue of Environmental Health Perspectives.
>
>The study found that, even at levels below those currently found in
>the environment, the synthetic hormone can damage the ability of male
>fish to fertilize eggs. Ethynylestradiol is a form of estrogen used in
>oral contraceptives.
Hmmm ... maybe this will solve the human population-
growth issue ? The bible-thumpers may not like the
idea of global contraception though ...
Johnny Asia
MOSUL, Iraq (AFP) - A top police officer and two guards were killed in
Mosul as US troops battled to restore order in Iraq (news - web
sites)'s third city, where gunmen roamed the streets in response to a
US-led assault on Fallujah.
Deadly violence also flared in other predominantly Sunni Arab areas,
following the major offensive of the rebel Sunni stronghold of
Fallujah, which started on Monday and rumbled on into Friday night.
In snapshots of the unrest, three crew were wounded when a Black Hawk
helicopter was shot down, at least five Iraqis were killed in clashes
in Hawijah, a US soldier was shot dead in Baghdad and a local leader
was ambushed in the restive province of Al-Anbar, home to battle-torn
Fallujah.
Johnny Asia
Fuck the South. Fuck 'em. We should have let them go when they wanted
to leave. But no, we had to kill half a million people so they'd stay
part of our special Union. Fighting for the right to keep slaves -
yeah, those are states we want to keep.
And now what do we get? We're the fucking Arrogant Northeast Liberal
Elite? How about this for arrogant: the South is the Real America? The
Authentic America. Really?
Cause we fucking founded this country, assholes. Those Founding
Fathers you keep going on and on about? All that bullshit about what
you think they meant by the Second Amendment giving you the right to
keep your assault weapons in the glove compartment because you didn't
bother to read the first half of the fucking sentence? Who do you
think those wig-wearing lacy-shirt sporting revolutionaries were? They
were fucking blue-staters, dickhead. Boston? Philadelphia? New York?
Hello? Think there might be a reason all the fucking monuments are up
here in our backyard?
No, No. Get the fuck out. We're not letting you visit the Liberty Bell
and fucking Plymouth Rock anymore until you get over your real
American selves and start respecting those other nine amendments. Who
do you think those fucking stripes on the flag are for? Nine are for
fucking blue states. And it would be 10 if those Vermonters had gotten
their fucking Subarus together and broken off from New York a little
earlier. Get it? We started this shit, so don't get all uppity about
how real you are you Johnny-come-lately "Oooooh I've been a state for
almost a hundred years" dickheads. Fuck off.
Arrogant? You wanna talk about us Northeasterners being fucking
arrogant? What's more American than arrogance? Hmmm? Maybe horsies? I
don't think so. Arrogance is the fucking cornerstone of what it means
to be American. And I wouldn't be so fucking arrogant if I wasn't
paying for your fucking bridges, bitch.
All those Federal taxes you love to hate? It all comes from us and
goes to you, so shut up and enjoy your fucking Tennessee Valley
Authority electricity and your fancy highways that we paid for. And
the next time Florida gets hit by a hurricane you can come crying to
us if you want to, but you're the ones who built on a fucking swamp.
"Let the Spanish keep it, it’s a shithole," we said, but you had to
have your fucking orange juice.
The next dickwad who says, "It’s your money, not the government's
money" is gonna get their ass kicked. Nine of the ten states that get
the most federal fucking dollars and pay the least... can you guess?
Go on, guess. That’s right, motherfucker, they're red states. And
eight of the ten states that receive the least and pay the most? It’s
too easy, asshole, they’re blue states. It’s not your money, assholes,
it’s fucking our money. What was that Real American Value you were
spouting a minute ago? Self reliance? Try this for self reliance: buy
your own fucking stop signs, assholes.
Let’s talk about those values for a fucking minute. You and your
Southern values can bite my ass because the blue states got the values
over you fucking Real Americans every day of the goddamn week. Which
state do you think has the lowest divorce rate you marriage-hyping
dickwads? Well? Can you guess? It’s fucking Massachusetts, the fucking
center of the gay marriage universe. Yes, that’s right, the state you
love to tie around the neck of anyone to the left of Strom Thurmond
has the lowest divorce rate in the fucking nation. Think that’s just
some aberration? How about this: 9 of the 10 lowest divorce rates are
fucking blue states, asshole, and most are in the Northeast, where our
values suck so bad. And where are the highest divorce rates? Care to
fucking guess? 10 of the top 10 are fucking red-ass
we're-so-fucking-moral states. And while Nevada is the worst, the
Bible Belt is doing its fucking part.
But two guys making out is going to fucking ruin marriage for you?
Yeah? Seems like you're ruining it pretty well on your own, you little
bastards. Oh, but that's ok because you go to church, right? I mean
you do, right? Cause we fucking get to hear about it every goddamn
year at election time. Yes, we're fascinated by how you get up every
Sunday morning and sing, and then you're fucking towers of moral
superiority. Yeah, that's a workable formula. Maybe us fucking
Northerners don't talk about religion as much as you because we're not
so busy sinning, hmmm? Ever think of that, you self-righteous
assholes? No, you're too busy erecting giant stone tablets of the Ten
Commandments in buildings paid for by the fucking Northeast Liberal
Elite. And who has the highest murder rates in the nation? It ain't us
up here in the North, assholes.
Well this gravy train is fucking over. Take your liberal-bashing,
federal-tax-leaching, confederate-flag-waving, holier-than-thou,
hypocritical bullshit and shove it up your ass.
And no, you can't have your fucking convention in New York next time.
Fuck off.
Gandalf Grey
funny.
Good job, your Holiness
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Bama Brian
Thanks for the sex, Johnny.
This post misses the fact that North Carolina, South Carolina, Virginia
and Georgia were part of the original 13 colonies. Not to mention the
fact that the fedgov itself is camped in a corner of what was Virginia.
Yet another product of the NEA and federal-run schools has checked in.
Now check out, Johnny, with your divisive bullshit stuffed where the sun
don't shine.
--
Cheers,
Bama Brian
Libertarian
Gandalf Grey
"Bama Brian" <bamaNO...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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Yeah. That's called a minority
Next?
> Not to mention the
> fact that the fedgov itself is camped in a corner of what was Virginia.
And that Virginia gets more in federal spending than it ever returns.
Next?
>
> Yet another product of the NEA and federal-run schools has checked in.
And proven itself to be a whole lot smarter than you.
> Now check out, Johnny, with your divisive bullshit stuffed where the sun
> don't shine.
Translation: You got busted.
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Bama Brian
> Fascist
No true libertarian would ever vote for the Bush regime.
Take a hike, fascist.
Johnny Asia
Police Lose Control of Mosul Amid Uprising
By ROBERT H. REID, Associated Press Writer
BAGHDAD, Iraq - The Iraqi government rushed reinforcements Friday to
the country's third-largest city, Mosul, seeking to quell a deadly
militant uprising that U.S. officials suspected may be in support of
the resistance in Fallujah — now said to be under 80 percent U.S.
control.
Police in Mosul largely disappeared from the streets, residents
reported, and gangs of armed men brandishing automatic weapons and
rocket-propelled grenade launchers roamed the city, 225 miles north of
Baghdad. Responding to the crisis, Iraqi authorities dismissed Mosul's
police chief after local officials reported that officers were
abandoning their stations to militants without firing a shot.
Elsewhere, insurgents shot down a U.S. Army UH-60 Black Hawk
helicopter near Taji, 12 miles north of Baghdad, wounding three crew
members, the military said. It was the third downed helicopter this
week after two Marine Super Cobras succumbed to ground fire in the
Fallujah operation.
Despite the apparent success in Fallujah, violence flared elsewhere in
the volatile Sunni Muslim areas, including Mosul, where attacks
Thursday killed a U.S. soldier. Another soldier was killed in Baghdad
as clashes erupted Friday in at least four neighborhoods of the
capital. Clashes also broke out from Hawija and Tal Afar in the north
to Samarra — where the police chief was also fired — and Ramadi in
central Iraq.
The most serious incidents took place in Mosul, a city of about 1
million people, where fighting raged for a second day. Gunmen attacked
the headquarters of the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan party in an
hourlong battle that a party official said left six assailants dead.
Militants also assassinated the head of the city's anti-crime task
force, Brig. Gen. Mowaffaq Mohammed Dahham, and set fire to his home.
Eyeball Kid
Whoa. Your teeth are showing.
That's a nice bit of vituperative writing. Seems like I read the whole
thing in ten seconds.
Once our southern neighbors show an appreciation for what others have
done for them, it might become easier to work together TO RESTORE THE
SANCTITY AND INTEGRITY OF THE VOTE. That's the important issue of our
time, right now.
E. K.
--
"Honestly, I think we should just trust our president in every decision that he
makes and we should just support that."-Britney Spears, 9/2003
"Too many good docs are getting out of business. Too many OB-GYNs aren't able
to practice their love with women all across this country."- George W. Bush,
9/6/04
Free humor. Whenever you want. http://www.psmueller.com
Gandalf Grey
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Couldn't agree with you more. Other than the machinations of the
Reconstructionist Cult Christians, what we've got going in this country
right now is a really bad case of reverse snobbery.
I love the south with a passion, but their political and moral attitude
needs some adjusting.
Jason Gooljar
whole south. As a person from the northeast I realize that there are people
in all of those states that share my progressive values. It is our
responsibilty to reach out to these people. Also the true swing voters are
those who have not yet committed to being either liberal or conservative. We
will not win these people over by moving to the center doing that only
reinforces the conservative frames. We must present the liberal values,
morals and our agenda to the rest of the country and speak it clearly.
--
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jasong...@optonline.net
aim: progressiveny04
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Johnny Asia
>>
>> This post misses the fact that North Carolina, South Carolina, Virginia
>> and Georgia were part of the original 13 colonies.
>
>Yeah. That's called a minority
>
>
Not only that, but that's where they sent the criminals.
Johnny Asia
>>
>> This post misses the fact that North Carolina, South Carolina, Virginia
>> and Georgia were part of the original 13 colonies.
>
>
Britain sent violent sex offenders to Georgia:
"Georgia was maintained as one of Brittan’s first penal colonies. It
was not merely a dumping ground for the most vile of murderers and
vicious sexual predators, but rather mostly served as banishment for
debtors.
http://athena.english.vt.edu/~jmooney/3044annotationsp-z/penalcolonies.html
Gandalf Grey
division exists. And the longer it continues the better it is for the
right. At a certain point, the red states are going to realize that they
really are voting against their own best interests, but if enough hate is
generated, the right wing can keep that voting going. Human beings will
vote their values before they vote their pocket books, and they'll vote
their hate before they vote anything else.
Also, I concur in the choice of Dr. Dean for Chairman. Clinton makes an
awful choice. Regardless of his popularity, Clinton has done no good for
the democratic party, he has NO coattails and never will. We need to get
out of the DLC and away from it's constant pressure to move the party to the
right wing.
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Johnny Asia
JUST COUNT THE BALLOTS AT THE BACK OF THE BUS
In These Times
Friday, November 12, 2004
Most voters in Ohio chose Kerry. Here's how the votes vanished.
By Greg Palast
This February, Ken Blackwell, Ohio's Secretary of State, told his
State Senate President, "The possibility of a close election with
punch cards as the state’s primary voting device invites a
Florida-like calamity." Blackwell, co-chair of Bush-Cheney reelection
campaign, wasn't warning his fellow Republican of disaster, but
boasting of an opportunity to bring in Ohio for Team Bush no matter
what the voters wanted. And most voters in Ohio wanted JFK, not GWB.
But their choice won't count because their votes won't be counted.
The ballots that add up to a majority for John Kerry in Ohio -- and in
New Mexico -- are locked up in two Republican hidey-holes: "spoiled"
ballots and "provisional" ballots.
OHIO SPOILED ROTTEN
American democracy has a dark little secret. In a typical presidential
election, two million ballots are simply chucked in the garbage,
marked "spoiled" and not counted. A dive into the electoral dumpster
reveals something special about these votes left to rot. In a careful
county-by-county, precinct-by-precinct analysis of the Florida 2000
race, the US Civil Rights Commission discovered that 54% of the votes
in the spoilage bin were cast by African-Americans. And Florida,
Heaven help us, is typical. Nationwide, the number of Black votes
"disappeared" into the spoiled pile is approximately one million. The
other million in the no-count pit come mainly from Hispanic,
Native-American and poor white precincts, a decidedly Democratic
demographic.
Ohio Republicans, simultaneously in charge of both the Bush-Cheney
get-out-the-vote drive and the state's vote-counting rules, doggedly
and systematically insured the spoilage pile would be as high as the
White House.
Vote spoilage comes in two flavors. There are "overvotes" -- too many
punches in the cards, and "undervotes." Here we find the hanging,
dimpled and "pregnant" chads created by old, dysfunctional punch card
machines, in which the bit of paper covering the hole doesn't fall
out, but hangs on. Machines can't read these, but we humans, who know
a hole when we see one, have no problem reading these cards … if
allowed to. This is how Katherine Harris defeated Al Gore, by halting
the hand count of the spoiled punch cards not, as is generally
believed, by halting a "recount."
Whose chads are left hanging? In Florida in 2000 federal investigators
determined that Black voters' ballots spoiled 900% more often than
white voters, mainly due to punch card error. Ohio Republicans found
those racial odds quite attractive. The state was the only one of
fifty to refuse to eliminate or fix these vote-eating machines, even
in the face of a lawsuit by the ACLU.
Apparently, the Ohio Republicans like what the ACLU found. The civil
rights group's expert testimony concluded that Ohio's cussed
insistence on forcing 73% of its electorate to use punch card machines
had an "overwhelming" racial bias, voiding votes mostly in Black
precincts. Blackwell doesn't disagree; and he hopes to fix the
machinery … sometime after George Bush's next inauguration. In the
meantime, the state's Attorney General Jim Petro, a Republican,
strategically postponed the trial date of the ACLU case until after
the election.
Fixing a punch card machine is cheap and easy. If Ohio simply placed a
card-reading machine in each polling station, as Michigan did this
year, voters could have checked to ensure their vote would tally. If
not, they would have gotten another card.
Blackwell knows that. He also knows that if those reading machines had
been installed, almost all the 93,000 spoiled votes, overwhelmingly
Democratic, would have closed the gap on George Bush's lead of 136,000
votes.
JIM CROW'S PROVISIONAL BALLOT
Add to the spoiled ballots a second group of uncounted votes, the
'provisional' ballots, and -- voila! -- the White House would have
turned Democrat blue.
But that won't happen because of the peculiar way provisional ballots
are counted or, more often, not counted. Introduced by federal law in
2002, the provisional ballot was designed especially for voters of
color. Proposed by the Congressional Black Caucus to save the rights
of those wrongly scrubbed from voter rolls, it was, in
Republican-controlled swing states, twisted into a back-of-the-bus
ballot unlikely to be tallied.
Unlike the real thing, these ballots are counted only by the whimsy
and rules of a state's top elections official; and in Ohio, that gives
a virtually ballot veto to Bush-Cheney campaign co-chair, Blackwell.
Mr. Blackwell has a few rules to make sure a large proportion of
provisional ballots won't be counted. For the first time in memory,
the Secretary of State has banned counting ballots cast in the "wrong"
precinct, though all neighborhoods share the same President.
Over 155,000 Ohio voters were shunted to these second-class ballots.
The election-shifting bulge in provisional ballots (more than 3% of
the electorate) was the direct result of the national Republican
strategy that targeted African-American precincts for mass challenges
on election day.
This is the first time in four decades that a political party has
systematically barred -- in this case successfully -- hundreds of
thousands of Black voters from access to the voting booth. While
investigating for BBC Television, we obtained three dozen of the
Republican Party's confidential "caging" lists, their title for
spreadsheets listing names and addresses of voters they intended to
block on any pretext.
We found that every single address of the thousands on these
Republican hit lists was located in Black-majority precincts. You
might find that nasty and racist. It may also be a crime.
Before 1965, Jim Crow laws in the Deep South did not bar Blacks from
voting. Rather, the segregationist game was played by applying minor
technical voting requirements only to African-Americans. That year,
Congress voted to make profiling and impeding minority voters, even
with a legal pretext, a criminal offence under the Voting Rights Act.
But that didn't stop the Republicans of '04. Their legally
questionable mass challenge to Black voters is not some low-level
dirty tricks operation of local party hacks. Emails we obtained show
the lists were copied directly to the Republican National Committee's
chief of research and to the director of a state campaign.
Many challenges center on changes of address. On one Republican caging
list, 50 addresses changed from Jacksonville to overseas,
African-American soldiers shipped Over There.
You don't have to guess the preferences registered on the provisional
ballots. Republicans went on a challenging rampage, while Democrats
pledged to hold to the tradition of letting voters vote.
Blackwell has said he will count all the "valid" provisional ballots.
However, his rigid regulations, like the new guess-your-precinct rule,
are rigged to knock out enough voters to keep Bush's skinny lead
alive. Other pre-election maneuvers by Republican officials -- late
and improbably large purges of voter rolls, rejection of registrations
-- maximized the use of provisional ballots which will never be
counted. For example, a voter wrongly tagged an ineligible "felon"
voter (and there's plenty in that category, mostly African-Americans),
will lose their ballot even though they are wrongly identified.
KERRY BLACKS OUT
It was heartening that, during his campaign, John Kerry broke the
political omerta that seems to prohibit public mention of the color of
votes not counted in America. "Don't tell us that in the strongest
democracy on earth a million disenfranchised African Americans is the
best we can do." The Senator promised the NAACP convention, "This
November, we're going to make sure that every single vote is counted."
But this week, Kerry became the first presidential candidate in
history to break a campaign promise after losing an election. The
Senator waited less than 24 hours to abandon more than a quarter
million Ohio voters still waiting for their provisional and
chad-spoiled ballots to be counted.
While disappointing, I can understand the cold calculus against taking
the fight to the end. To count the ballots, Kerry's lawyers would,
first, have to demand a hand reading of the punch cards. Blackwell,
armed with the Supreme Court's Bush v. Gore diktat, would undoubtedly
pull a "Kate Harris" by halting or restricting a hand count. Most
daunting, Kerry's team would also, as one state attorney general
pointed out to me, have to litigate each and every rejected
provisional ballot in court. This would entail locating up to a
hundred thousand voters to testify to their right to the vote, with
Blackwell challenging each with a holster full of regulations from the
old Jim Crow handbook.
Given the odds and the cost to his political career, Kerry bent, not
to the will of the people, but to the will to power of the Ohio
Republican machine.
We have yet to total here the votes lost in missing absentee ballots,
in eyebrow-raising touch screen tallies, in purges of legal voters
from registries and other games played in swing states. But why dwell
on these things? Our betters in the political and media elite have
told us to get over it, move on.
To the victors go the spoils of electoral class war. As Ohio's
politically ambitious Secretary of State brags on his own website,
"Last time I checked, Katherine Harris wasn't in a soup line, she's in
Congress."
NEW MEXICO GOES KERRY - BUT WHO'S COUNTING?
Why single out Ohio? So it also went in New Mexico where ballots of
Hispanic voters (two-to-one Kerry supporters) spoil at a rate five
times that of white voters. Add in the astounding 13,000 provisional
ballots in the Enchanted State -- handed out "like candy" to Hispanic,
not white, voters according to a director of the Catholic Church's
get-out-the-vote drive -- and Kerry wins New Mexico. Just count up the
votes … but that won't happen.
Investigative reporter Greg Palast is author of The Best Democracy
Money Can Buy (Penguin 2004).
Oliver Shykles and Matthew Pascarella of GregPalast.com contributed to
this article.
View Greg Palast's BBC Television film, "Bush Family Fortunes," now
available on DVD, at http://www.gregpalast.com/bff-dvd.htm
Johnny Asia
Sat Nov 13, 2:05 AM ET
By GERALD NADLER, Associated Press Writer
NEW YORK - More than 50 former Soviet dissidents who spent years in
prisons and Siberian exile say Russia is in danger of slipping back
into a police state under President Vladimir Putin and the former KGB
colleagues he has brought to power.
Graying and aging, the former political prisoners reminisced one night
this week about how they challenged the totalitarian superpower to
abide by laws that on paper guaranteed free speech, a free press and
fair trials.
Today Russians are turning to Putin, a former KGB colonel, to restore
order in their chaotic, market-driven democracy, said Eduard
Kuznetsov, 65, who spent 17 years in prison for planning to hijack a
plane in Leningrad in 1970 to get out of the Soviet Union.
"More than 50 percent of the key state positions are occupied by
former KGB officials," Kuznetsov said. "The KGB officials have a
specific mentality. They can't change. There is a danger that it will
really be a police state. Not so straightforward as it was under
Brezhnev, because there is inertia.
"Because they have to balance between the (opinion of) the free world
and a controlled society." Leonid Brezhnev ruled from 1964-82, now
labeled the era of stagnation.
Vladimir Bukovsky, who was labeled insane and spent a total of 12
years in Soviet jails and psychiatric hospitals for repeatedly
demonstrating, said Russia is "slowly returning to the pre-1991
situation" before the end of the Soviet Union.
"But it will never go back all the way to Brezhnev's time. History
doesn't repeat itself so precisely. But they will make a couple of
generations miserable again. That's what they will do," said Bukovsky,
61.
"You cannot return the Soviet system. It collapsed because it had to
collapse. Not because the CIA (news - web sites) undermined it or
subverted it. They cannot understand in their small minds that it was
absolutely doomed. Now by trying to restore it, they are simply
bankrupting the country."
Bukovsky, who won his freedom in a swap for Chilean Communist Louis
Corvalan on Dec. 18, 1976, recalled that Putin has lamented the
collapse of the Soviet Union as "a tragedy." He said Putin's
colleagues also share this view.
"They do so because they used to be young officers of the KGB ... and
they still have the feeling that they served the great power and now
they want the great power to be back, and they think by repeating the
Soviet example they once again will bring greatness to Russia,"
Bukovsky said.
A Kind of Fascism Is Replacing Our Democracy
By Sheldon S. Wolin
Sheldon S. Wolin is emeritus professor of politics at Princeton
University and the author of "Politics and Vision: The Presence of the
Past" and "Alexis de Tocqueville: Between Two Worlds."
July 18, 2003
Sept. 11, 2001, hastened a significant shift in our nation's
self-understanding. It became commonplace to refer to an "American
empire" and to the United States as "the world's only superpower."
Instead of those formulations, try to conceive of ones like
"superpower democracy" or "imperial democracy," and they seem not only
contradictory but opposed to basic assumptions that Americans hold
about their political system and their place within it. Supposedly
ours is a government of constitutionally limited powers in which equal
citizens can take part in power. But one can no more assume that a
superpower welcomes legal limits than believe that an empire finds
democratic participation congenial.
No administration before George W. Bush's ever claimed such sweeping
powers for an enterprise as vaguely defined as the "war against
terrorism" and the "axis of evil." Nor has one begun to consume such
an enormous amount of the nation's resources for a mission whose end
would be difficult to recognize even if achieved.
Like previous forms of totalitarianism, the Bush administration boasts
a reckless unilateralism that believes the United States can demand
unquestioning support, on terms it dictates; ignores treaties and
violates international law at will; invades other countries without
provocation; and incarcerates persons indefinitely without charging
them with a crime or allowing access to counsel.
Americans are now facing a grim situation with no easy solution.
Perhaps the just-passed anniversary of the Declaration of Independence
might remind us that "whenever any form of Government becomes
destructive ..." it must be challenged. -
Copyright © 2003, Newsday, Inc.
"An evil exists that threatens every man, woman and child of this
great nation," the leader of another country once wrote. "We must take
steps to ensure our domestic security and protect our homeland." -
Adoph Hitler, writing about creation of the Gestapo in Nazi Germany.
"Today Christians ... stand at the head of Germany ... I pledge that I
never will tie myself to parties who want to destroy Christianity ..
We want to fill our culture again with the Christian spirit ... We
want to burn out all the recent immoral developments in literature, in
the theater, and in the press - in short, we want to burn out the
poison of immorality which has entered into our whole life and culture
as a result of liberal excess during the past ... (few) years." -
Adolph Hitler - The Speeches of Adolph Hitler, 1922-1939, Vol. 1
(London, Oxford University Press, 1942), pg. 871-872.
Consider this quote from Hermann Goering, president of the Reichstag,
Nazi Party, and Luftwaffe Commander in Chief:
"Naturally the common people don't want war: Neither in Russia, nor in
England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But,
after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy
and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it
is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a
communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be
brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to
do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers
for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works
the same in any country."
Johnny Asia
PHOTO:
Police vehicles burn near an Iraqi Police station in Mosul, Iraq,
Thursday, Nov. 11, 2004. Insurgents attacked police stations in
several parts of the city, and explosions and gunfire could be heard
in various areas. Gunmen could be seen roaming the streets.
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/041111/481/bag13111111417
Militants Take Control in Iraq's Mosul
MOSUL, Iraq (Reuters) - Insurgents were in charge of some areas of
south and western Mosul on Saturday, holding two police stations and
manning road blocks, as Iraq's third largest city appeared to slide
out of U.S. and Iraqi control.
Residents in neighborhoods throughout the city on the Tigris river,
240 miles north of Baghdad, said there was little visible presence of
Iraqi security forces or U.S. troops on Saturday. They said armed
gunmen held some areas.
"In the south and the west of the city, insurgents are doing patrols
to protect banks and shops from looters. They are guarding hospitals,
schools and fire stations," said one resident, who would give only his
first name, Thamer.
Army Diverts Unit From Fallujah to Mosul
FALLUJAH, Iraq - The U.S. Army has diverted an infantry battalion from
the fighting in Fallujah and sent them back to Mosul after an uprising
there by insurgents, U.S. military officials said Saturday.
Johnny Asia
Looters carry away property after American troops withdrew from an
outpost in the northern city of Mosul, Iraq, Saturday, Nov. 13, 2004.
The U.S. Army has diverted an infantry battalion from the fighting in
Fallujah and sent them back to Mosul after an uprising there by
insurgents, U.S. military officials said Saturday.
http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20041113/lthumb.bag11411131458.iraq_bag114.jpg
Iraqis crowd around the scene of a car bomb which targeted an Iraqi
National Guard convoy in the northern city of Mosul, Iraq, Saturday,
Nov. 13, 2004.
John Tibbs
"Jason Gooljar" <news...@optonline.net> wrote in message
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the
> whole south. As a person from the northeast I realize that there are
people
> in all of those states that share my progressive values. It is our
> responsibilty to reach out to these people. Also the true swing voters are
> those who have not yet committed to being either liberal or conservative.
We
> will not win these people over by moving to the center doing that only
> reinforces the conservative frames. We must present the liberal values,
> morals and our agenda to the rest of the country and speak it clearly.
>
"tourette's syndrome" than a viable message. Keep it up. It stopped
working when the leftists in the media lost their monopoly on information in
the US.
--
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If you like uncertainty,
Politics over issues,
Manicures over manliness,
Loud hateful animated oratory,
UN permission to defend,
Withdrawal without winning,
Celebrity worshipping
Dead people voting,
Convicts voting,
Doctor's leaving the practice,
Outsourcing our medicines,
Elitist, Condescending politicians,
Schools that don't teach,
Schools that brainwash kids,
Empty, impossible promises,
Then, Vote Liberal!
If you want security,
Straightforward talk,
Down home values,
Respect for the constitution,
Then Vote Conservative!
I am a
Conservative Independent
www.townhall.com
jt
R. Horwitz
> And no, you can't have your fucking convention in New York next time.
> Fuck off.
Boy, and I thought I was having a bad day! I guess it must really suck
finding out your boyfriend is having affair! Can you imagine sucking
his dick and finding out it taste like shit? Hell, that would ruin my
day too.
Johnny Asia
Sunday 14 November 2004, 19:56 Makka Time, 16:56 GMT
Red Crescent says 150 families are still in the heart of Falluja
An Iraqi Red Crescent convoy blocked from entering Falluja by US
forces has appealed to the United Nations.
US troops have directed the convoy into the Falluja hospital on the
outskirts of the town, away from the reach of local citizens.
Abu Fahd, a member of the relief convoy, told Aljazeera that "the
relief convoy wants to enter Falluja town for humanitarian purposes
only, to save women, children and elderly people".
"I hope the United Nations will hear our appeals."
"We are now in Falluja hospital, outside the city," he said. "There is
no one in the hospital except the medical team, doing nothing."
"None of the injured residents are being allowed to come to the
hospital, while those outside are not allowed to go into the town,"
Abu Fahd said.
"The town is suffering from cut in power and water supplies. There are
no medicines or ambulances either.
"The injured and the dead are now on the streets. Many families want
to get out of their houses, but they have no alternative shelters to
go into," he said.
"The US forces have prevented us from entering the town claiming it
is not safe. US forces have said they control 80% of the town."
"I have asked them to allow the relief team into the areas they
control, to offer humanitarian aid for women, children and the
elderly, and transfer the injured to the hospital, but they have
refused," Abu Fahd said.
The Red Crescent sent a convoy of essential goods along with 53
volunteers and three doctors from Baghdad to attend to people in
Falluja.
It believes that 150 families are still in the heart of Falluja, but
it is concerned about the plight of tens of thousands of people living
in refugee camps and villages dotted outside.
"They are dying of starvation and lack of water, especially the
children," Red Crescent spokeswoman Firdus al-Ubadi said.
"If there is no solution to this crisis it will expand to other cities
and other parts of Iraq and there will be a great disaster here."
Earlier, the Red Crescent society despatched a convoy of four relief
trucks and an ambulance to Amiriyat al-Falluja and a tourist village
in Habbaniya, where an additional 1500 refugees are camped.
Johnny Asia
we are telling them that if that is true allow all satellite networks
to enter the city this night so the world can see what is really
happening in the streets of Falluja.
"Everything they are announcing is disinformation. Falluja is the
theatre of butchery and destruction. Today they bombed the only
telecommunications centre which provided links between Falluja and the
outside world. Americans are criminals," said the spokesman.
So many pockets
Local journalist in Falluja, Haza al-Afify, told Aljazeera: "Fierce
clashes are still under way at the northern and northwestern edges of
Julan neighbourhood. Fighting is also raging in the southern and
southeastern neighbourhoods, particularly at al-Shuhada neighbourhood
and the industrial quarter.
"What we have heard on ending military operations as stated by the
Iraqi State Minister for Defence Qasim Dawud does not bear credibility
in relation to the reality of the situation on the ground.
"Fierce clashes are still continuing in several neighbourhoods. If
these neighbourhoods are mere pockets, Falluja will be harbouring so
many pockets."
He added that while US tanks and armoured vehicles had the main roads
under control, the narrow alleys were still out of reach to US forces.
"I assure you that the reality of the current situation does not imply
a halt to military operations, he said."
Johnny Asia
The night belongs to the fighters. Under cover of darkness, they
regroup and receive fresh weapons and ammunition.
They are elusive figures. I have seen them in action, firing mortars
and grenades at American troops.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/4008887.stm
Richard Burns
Mark Fox wrote:
> sabot...@hotmail.com (sabot120mm) wrote in message news:<b3d22dcd.04111...@posting.google.com>...
>
>>pope_about_town at yahoo.com (Johnny Asia) wrote in message news:<41946cc...@news.mybizz.net>...
>>
>>>http://www.fuckthesouth.com/
>>>
>>>Fuck the South.
>>
>>(SNIP)
>>
>>Funniest thing I have read in a long time. you libwits are such funny
>>losers. Keep up the good work.
>
>
> The south?? I never could quite tell, was the original poster
> referring to South Dakota?? They voted for President Bush this year
> and I believe they also kicked Tom Daschel out as well. These events
> couldn't have happened to two nicer guys!! LOL!
Well, to red-state Americans, *Republicans* like Arlen Specter are
liberals, not just those who are genuinely liberal/progressive. In the
week and a half after the election, I have heard the most
redneck-bashing I have ever heard in my life..and a lot of this is
coming from moderate people..people who voted for Schwartzenegger, for
the recall of Gray Davis, who are pro-death penalty, etc. They are
worried about having their kids being taught creationism, or being
force-fed a narrow right-wing view of Christianity. This a cultural
battle that goes beyond mere GOP vs. Democrat, as even Republicans who
don't toe the red-state line are being targeted. Giuliani and
Schwartzenegger will have a tough time winning a GOP primary due to
their apparently belief in evolution and choice, for starters.
Giuliani's ethnicity will probably come under attack in may red-states,
too...it worked for that stupid redneck Bunning in Kentucky, who said
that his Italian-American opponent looked like Saddam's grandkid. Let's
see that pigfucker Bunning say that shit on 18th Avenue in Bensonhurst,
Brooklyn, (or the Staten Island Mall) and see what happens.
Some stupid redneck like Bill Frist or, gulp, Jeb Bush has a better
chance surviving a GOP primary than Arnold or Rudy.
Richard.
John D.
"Richard Burns" <rbur...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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(snip)
They are
> worried about having their kids being taught creationism, or being
> force-fed a narrow right-wing view of Christianity.
One question. Knowing that creationism is going to be taught along side of
evolution and *not* exclusively, what are "they" afraid of?
John D.
John Tibbs
"Richard Burns" <rbur...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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>
>
Well, YOU are obviously not over yours yet, are you? But you are improving.
You haven't went into Tourette's syndrome yet on usenet!
John Tibbs
"John D." <Ha...@ha.net> wrote in message
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Since evolution is constantly 'updated' (IOW corrected) they are afraid that
another theory may prove to be morre constant and lasting, you know... like
Creationism.
jt
>
jacksdarkcousin
>
> Fuck the South. Fuck 'em. We should have let them go when they wanted
> to leave. But no, we had to kill half a million people so they'd stay
> part of our special Union. Fighting for the right to keep slaves -
> yeah, those are states we want to keep.
>
[stuff deleted...]
This was very funny. You have some real talent for political satire.
Definately Daily Show quality ;-) and certainly much better than SNL
(which I think totally sucks now because their humor has become so
innocuous).
T.J. Johnson
>
> Fuck the South. Fuck 'em. We should have let them go when they wanted
> to leave. But no, we had to kill half a million people so they'd stay
> part of our special Union. Fighting for the right to keep slaves -
> yeah, those are states we want to keep.
Ya, Mainly becuase the north at the time outnumbered the south
immensly at that time.
> And now what do we get? We're the fucking Arrogant Northeast Liberal
> Elite? How about this for arrogant: the South is the Real America? The
> Authentic America. Really?
No who said that?
> Cause we fucking founded this country, assholes. Those Founding
> Fathers you keep going on and on about? All that bullshit about what
> you think they meant by the Second Amendment giving you the right to
> keep your assault weapons in the glove compartment because you didn't
> bother to read the first half of the fucking sentence? Who do you
> think those wig-wearing lacy-shirt sporting revolutionaries were? They
> were fucking blue-staters, dickhead. Boston? Philadelphia? New York?
> Hello? Think there might be a reason all the fucking monuments are up
> here in our backyard?
Umm excuse me you uneducated liberal, democrats did not found this
country, there was no political parties back then. The population
could at that time have been red or blue states simply the fact that
they are blue states now does not mean they would have been blue
states back then.
> No, No. Get the fuck out. We're not letting you visit the Liberty Bell
> and fucking Plymouth Rock anymore until you get over your real
> American selves and start respecting those other nine amendments. Who
> do you think those fucking stripes on the flag are for? Nine are for
> fucking blue states. And it would be 10 if those Vermonters had gotten
> their fucking Subarus together and broken off from New York a little
> earlier. Get it? We started this shit, so don't get all uppity about
> how real you are you Johnny-come-lately "Oooooh I've been a state for
> almost a hundred years" dickheads. Fuck off.
Ummm, now your saying that the north has any authority of this
country? Maybe you should see how many liberals are in the military
compared to republicans, maybe you should think before you speak.
> Arrogant? You wanna talk about us Northeasterners being fucking
> arrogant? What's more American than arrogance? Hmmm? Maybe horsies? I
> don't think so. Arrogance is the fucking cornerstone of what it means
> to be American. And I wouldn't be so fucking arrogant if I wasn't
> paying for your fucking bridges, bitch.
Yes I wanna talk about arrogance.
> All those Federal taxes you love to hate? It all comes from us and
> goes to you, so shut up and enjoy your fucking Tennessee Valley
> Authority electricity and your fancy highways that we paid for. And
> the next time Florida gets hit by a hurricane you can come crying to
> us if you want to, but you're the ones who built on a fucking swamp.
> "Let the Spanish keep it, it?s a shithole," we said, but you had to
> have your fucking orange juice.
Wow I smell the ignorant smell of a troll.
> The next dickwad who says, "It?s your money, not the government's
> money" is gonna get their ass kicked. Nine of the ten states that get
> the most federal fucking dollars and pay the least... can you guess?
> Go on, guess. That?s right, motherfucker, they're red states.
---Snip----- Recheck facts
>
> Let?s talk about those values for a fucking minute. You and your
> Southern values can bite my ass because the blue states got the values
> over you fucking Real Americans
Ya promoting butt sex between two men is surely an american
value(Plonk!)
> And no, you can't have your fucking convention in New York next time.
> Fuck off.
Well since majorty of americans are pro-replubican We'll have our
convention anywhere we damn well please
FrankA
You go bro. Everything you said is accurate, and I love the passion
and wit in your tone. They deserved this. I'd love to see some right
wingers refute this post.
Dave Simpson
intellectually and otherwise superior to you scum. We are assets and
improve wherever we go. You are the reverse.
Dvae Simpson
FrankA
"Derrr, Ima votin fer Jorge dubya booshe. Cuz he keps us saphe and
stops the fagots and demonic liberals frum destryin da countrie
derrrrrrrr."
Fuck the south, go back to your wallmart, keep reading the bible
instead of the constitution, and stop voting. You don't know shit.
jacksdarkcousin
> whole south. As a person from the northeast I realize that there are people
> in all of those states that share my progressive values. It is our
> responsibilty to reach out to these people. Also the true swing voters are
> those who have not yet committed to being either liberal or conservative. We
> will not win these people over by moving to the center doing that only
> reinforces the conservative frames. We must present the liberal values,
> morals and our agenda to the rest of the country and speak it clearly.
>
> --
> Jason Gooljar
> jasong...@optonline.net
> aim: progressiveny04
> http://ourdemocracy.tripod.com
I took the original posting in jest, as dark humor. Although there
seems to be a lot of red-blue friction, it doesn't strike me as a
north-south thing at all. If you look at the returns of many southern
states, you see differences like 60-40% and 63-37%. 40%, although not
a majority, is a pretty substantial chunk of a population.
I'm in a very red state and yet, there were pockets of blue. I noticed
these pockets tended to be around the university areas and in specific
neighborhoods where there seemed to more of a young, educated, urban
crowd.
Roy Blankenship
Bama Brian <bamaNO...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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> Johnny Asia wrote:
> > http://www.fuckthesouth.com/
> >
> > Fuck the South. Fuck 'em. We should have let them go when they wanted
> > to leave. But no, we had to kill half a million people so they'd stay
> > part of our special Union. Fighting for the right to keep slaves -
> > yeah, those are states we want to keep.
> >
> > Elite? How about this for arrogant: the South is the Real America? The
> > Authentic America. Really?
> >
> > Fathers you keep going on and on about? All that bullshit about what
> > you think they meant by the Second Amendment giving you the right to
> > keep your assault weapons in the glove compartment because you didn't
> > bother to read the first half of the fucking sentence? Who do you
> > think those wig-wearing lacy-shirt sporting revolutionaries were? They
> > were fucking blue-staters, dickhead. Boston? Philadelphia? New York?
> > Hello? Think there might be a reason all the fucking monuments are up
> > here in our backyard?
> >
> > and fucking Plymouth Rock anymore until you get over your real
> > American selves and start respecting those other nine amendments. Who
> > do you think those fucking stripes on the flag are for? Nine are for
> > fucking blue states. And it would be 10 if those Vermonters had gotten
> > their fucking Subarus together and broken off from New York a little
> > earlier. Get it? We started this shit, so don't get all uppity about
> > how real you are you Johnny-come-lately "Oooooh I've been a state for
> > almost a hundred years" dickheads. Fuck off.
> >
> > arrogant? What's more American than arrogance? Hmmm? Maybe horsies? I
> > don't think so. Arrogance is the fucking cornerstone of what it means
> > to be American. And I wouldn't be so fucking arrogant if I wasn't
> > paying for your fucking bridges, bitch.
> >
> > goes to you, so shut up and enjoy your fucking Tennessee Valley
> > Authority electricity and your fancy highways that we paid for. And
> > the next time Florida gets hit by a hurricane you can come crying to
> > us if you want to, but you're the ones who built on a fucking swamp.
> > have your fucking orange juice.
> >
> > money" is gonna get their ass kicked. Nine of the ten states that get
> > the most federal fucking dollars and pay the least... can you guess?
> > eight of the ten states that receive the least and pay the most? It’s
> > too easy, asshole, they’re blue states. It’s not your money, assholes,
> > it’s fucking our money. What was that Real American Value you were
> > spouting a minute ago? Self reliance? Try this for self reliance: buy
> > your own fucking stop signs, assholes.
> >
> > Southern values can bite my ass because the blue states got the values
> >
> > And no, you can't have your fucking convention in New York next time.
> > Fuck off.
>
>
> This post misses the fact that North Carolina, South Carolina, Virginia
> fact that the fedgov itself is camped in a corner of what was Virginia.
>
> Yet another product of the NEA and federal-run schools has checked in.
> Now check out, Johnny, with your divisive bullshit stuffed where the sun
> don't shine.
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Bama Brian
> Libertarian
I live in Jacksonville, FL, the cultural desert of the Southeast. I have
never met so many stupid people in my life. I have lived in 7 major
metropolitan areas, and the South takes the cake. Everything in that article
is true. You can hang in the ignorance if you want, but January 2, I am
outta here. And if you are the true billy-bob I think you are, you will say,
"Good riddance, don't let the door hit you in the ass." Be a good little
delbert and face the facts.
Johnny Asia
ABC pool video footage showed Marines continuing to search
door-to-door, blowing the gates off houses with explosives. A bit of
bright color stood out on one of the city's ubiquitous gray,
rubble-strewn streets — a pink dress on the body of a small child
crumpled next to the curb.
Saboteurs set fire Sunday to four oil wells in Iraq's northern
fields, setting off successive explosions in Khabbaza, 12 miles
northwest of Kirkuk, oil officials said.
Heavy explosions rattled central Baghdad near the Palestine and
Sheraton hotels after nightfall Sunday, followed by bursts of sporadic
gunfire. The U.S. military said initial reports indicated rockets or
mortars had struck the area, killing two Iraqis and wounding another.
About an hour later, about four more large explosions rocked the Green
Zone, headquarters of the U.S. and Iraqi leadership. At least one
private security guard was killed. Clashes were also reported on Haifa
Street, a center of insurgent support in the heart of the capital.
More than a dozen insurgents attacked the Polish Embassy in Baghdad
with automatic weapons Sunday, and embassy guards returned fire in an
exchange that lasted for a half hour, a Polish Foreign Ministry
spokesman said in Warsaw. No one was reported killed or wounded.
In Mosul, where an uprising broke out last week in support of the
Fallujah defenders, militants raided two police stations, killing at
least six Iraqi National Guards and wounding three others. One
insurgent was killed and three others were wounded before Iraqi
security forces regained control of both stations, witnesses said.
Insurgents also set fire to the governor's house, destroying it and
damaging his car in northern Mosul. Governor Duraid Kashmoula also
said the curfew will continue to be imposed on the city from 4:00 p.m.
to 6:00 a.m. in the morning.
A gunbattle erupted Sunday between militants and U.S. troops in the
main market in the northern town of Beiji, killing at least six people
and wounding 20 others, according to witnesses.
The clash followed an attack in Beiji against American soldiers, who
responded with tank rounds and Hellfire missiles, the U.S. military
said.
A dozen explosions rocked an American base in the western part of
Ramadi, about 30 miles west of Fallujah, after insurgents fired
missiles. Witnesses reported seeing flames and smoke billowing from
the base.
One U.S. soldier was injured when a suicide bomber blew up his car
near a U.S. convoy traveling between Balad and Tikrit, the military
said. A Bradley fighting vehicle was damaged by a roadside bomb in
Baghdad, injuring one soldier, the military said.
One Marine and an Iraqi soldier were hurt when five mortar shells
struck a checkpoint outside Fallujah.
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=535&e=5&u=/ap/20041114/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq
Johnny Asia
By TINI TRAN, Associated Press Writer
BAGHDAD, Iraq - Explosions and gunfire broke out Monday in Baqouba —
the latest in a wave of clashes that has swept Iraq's Sunni Muslim
heartland even as U.S. and Iraqi forces move against the last
remaining pockets of resistance in Fallujah.
Witnesses said insurgents were fighting Iraqi police, and explosions
and heavy gunfire were echoing through Baqouba's streets.
Firefights also erupted just south of Baqouba in the town of Buhriz,
as insurgents attacked some police stations and a nearby U.S. base,
residents said. The two cities are located about 35 miles northeast of
Baghdad.
Johnny Asia
US study links more than 200 diseases to pollution --Pollution has
been linked to about 200 different diseases, ranging from cerebral
palsy to testicular atrophy, as well as more than 37 kinds of cancer,
startling US research shows.
http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/environment/story.jsp?story=582743
Johnny Asia
polar bears to go extinct by the end of the century by eroding the sea
ice that sustains them, according to the most comprehensive
international assessment ever done of Arctic climate change.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A35233-2004Nov8.html
Johnny Asia
The following text is from the introduction of
a sermon given by Robert Cushman to the Plymouth church on December
12, 1621.
http://members.aol.com/calebj/sermon.html
"And though when we came first into the Country, we were few, and many
of us were sick, and many died by reason of the cold and wet, it being
the depth of Winter, and we having no houses, nor shelter, yet when
there was not six able persons among us, and that they came daily to
us by hundreds, with their Sachems or Kings, and might in one hour
have made a dispatch of us, yet such a fear was upon them, as that
they never offered us the least injury in word or deed. And by reason
of one Tisquanto, that lives amongst us, that can speak English, we
have daily Commerce with their Kings, and can know what is done or
intended towards us among the Savages; Also we can acquaint them with
our courses and purposes, both human and religious. And the greatest
Commander of the Country, call'd Massasoit, cometh often to visit us,
tho' he lives 50 miles from us, often sends us Presents, he having
with many other of their Governors, promised, yea, subscribed
Obedience to our Sovereign Lord King James, and for his cause to spend
both strength and life."
When the Pilgrims landed at Plymouth, Massachusetts, in late 1620,
they were ill-equipped for survival in their new homeland. Grain
brought on the Mayflower wasn't suited for planting in the rocky
American soil. Planting techniques used in England didn't adapt well
on this side of the Atlantic either. But, perhaps most devastating,
the harsh winter reduced the number of settlers by half.
Invaluable help came from Squanto, also known as Tisquantum, a
Wampanoag, who taught the Pilgrims techniques for planting and
fertilizing that were appropriate for the rugged surroundings. With
some seeds provided by Squanto, the Pilgrims planted corn, wheat, and
barley in the spring of 1621.
By fall, realizing that their first harvest of corn and barley would
be plentiful, Governor William Bradford declared a day of
thanksgiving. At the three-day feast, the 50 settlers hosted 90
Wampanoag, including their chief, Massasoit. As was the Wampanoag's
custom, they brought venison as a contribution to the meal. Not only
was this festival a way to thank the Wampanoag, but it also served to
boost the morale of the remaining settlers.
Most of the details of that thanksgiving come from a letter written by
Edward Winslow, a 25-year-old Pilgrim who was the colony's ambassador
to the Indians. From that letter, we know that Governor Bradford "sent
four men on fowling, that so we might after a more special manner
rejoice together." Chief Massassoit came "with some 90 men." For three
days, the Pilgrims and Indians "entertained and feasted."
"We have found the Indians very faithful in their covenant of peace
with us, very loving, and ready to pleasure us. We often go to them,
and they come to us.... We can walk as peaceably and safely in the
woods as in the highways of England. We entertain them in our houses,
and they give us venison... They are a people without any religion or
knowledge of any God, yet very trusty, quick of apprehension,
ripe-witted, just." - Pilgrim Edward Winslow, letter to a friend in
England (1621)
THE PILGRIMS
PURITAN DOOMSDAY CULT PLUNDERS PARADISE
Every year around Thanksgiving time in churches across America,
preachers are heard to say: "The Pilgrims brought God to these
shores". Judging by the atrocious behavior of these Pilgrims, I'd have
to say that God must have hitched a ride back to England shortly after
He arrived here.
John Winthrop, the governor of the Massachusetts Bay Colony said in a
sermon preached aboard the Arabella, en route to the New World in
1630:
"to do justly, to love mercy, to walk humbly with our God" - then God
"shall make us a praise and a glory, that men shall say of succeeding
plantations: "The Lord make it like that of New England!"
Shortly after this moving sermon, the Puritans dealt treacherously
with their benefactors, the Native Americans, who welcomed them and
helped them to survive their first years here.
The Puritans massacred a neighboring town of friendly Pequots in 1637,
setting fire to the village and slaughtering the villagers as they
tried to escape the flames. Some 900 men, women and children were
murdered by the same Puritans who claimed that their settlement was to
be "the model of Christian charity".
One of the Pilgrim officers of that expedition gave insight into the
Pequots they encountered:
"The Indians spying of us came running in multitudes along the water
side, crying 'What cheer, Englishmen, what cheer, what do you come
for?'. They not thinking we intended war went on cheerfully."
Historian Francis Jennings wrote of Captain John Mason's attack:
"Mason proposed to avoid attacking Pequot warriors, which would have
overtaxed his unseasoned, unreliable troops. Battle, as such, was not
his purpose. Battle is only one of the ways to destroy an enemy's will
to fight. Massacre can accomplish the same end with less risk, and
Mason had determined that massacre would be his objective."
In Howard Zinns' book, A People's History of the United States, one of
the Pilgrims on the expedition is quoted as saying:
"The Captain also said, We must Burn Them; and immediately stepping
into the wigwam....brought out a Fire Brand, and putting it into the
Matts with which they were covered, set the Wigwams on Fire."
William Bradford, in his History of the Plymouth Plantation, described
the carnage:
"Those that scaped the fire were slaine with the sword; some hewed to
peeces, others rune throw with their rapiers, so as they were quickly
dispatche, and very few escaped. It was conceived they thus destroyed
about 400 at this time. It was a fearful sight to see them thus frying
in the fyer, and the streams of blood quenching the same, and horrible
was the stincke and sente there of, but the victory seemed a sweet
sacrifice, and they gave the prayers thereof to God, who had wrought
so wonderfully for them, thus to inclose their enemise in their hands,
and gave them so speedy a victory over so proud and insulting an
enimie."
Cotton Mather, one of the more odious and obdurate Pilgrim leaders,
wrote:
"It was supposed that no less than 600 souls were brought down to Hell
that day".
Mather, in his Annals of Christ in America, wrote:
"I do, with all conscience of truth,...report the wonderful displays
of His infinite power, wisdom, goodness, and faithfulness, wherewith
His divine providence hath irradiated an Indian wilderness".
Indeed!
Having laid down their weapons and accepted Christianity, the Pequots
were rewarded with a vicious and cowardly slaughter by their new
"brothers in Christ".
Francis Jennings said:
"The terror was very real among the Indians. They drew lessons from
the Peqout War:(1) that the Englishmen's most solemn pledge would be
broken whenever obligation conflicted with advantage; (2) that the
English way of war had no limit of scruple and mercy".
The Pilgrims justified their conquest by appealing to the Bible,
Psalms 2:8:
"Ask of me, and I shall give thee, the heathen for thine inheritance,
and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession."
The use of force to take this "inheritance" was justified by citing
Romans 13:2:
"Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of
God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation."
William Bradford, called a man of "more than ordinary piety, wisdom
and courage" by no less an authority on Godliness than Cotton Mather,
wrote in 1642:
"Wickedness Breaks Forth - Marvelous it may be to see and consider how
some kind of wickedness did grow and break forth here, in a land where
the same was so much witnessed against and so narrowly looked unto,
and severely punished when it was known, as in no place more, or so
much, that I have known or heard of; insomuch that they have been
somewhat censured even by moderate and good men for their severity in
punishments. And yet all this could not suppress the breaking out of
sundry notorious sins.. Especially drunkenness and uncleanness. Not
only incontinency between persons unmarried, for which many both men
and women have been punished sharply enough, but some married persons
also. But that which is worse, even sodomy and buggery (things fearful
to name) have broke forth in this land oftener than once. I say it may
justly be marveled at and cause us to fear and tremble at the
considration of our corrupt natures, which are so hardly bridled,
subdued and mortified.....But one reason may be that the Devil may
carry a greater spite against the churches of Christ and the gospel
here,....I would rather think thus, than that Satan hath more power in
these heathen lands, as some have thought, than in Christian nations,
especially over God's servants in them."
The twisted theology of these so-called men of God is indicative of a
pervasive sickness of their minds and wretchedness in their souls.
Their confused and tortured thought processes made it possible for
them , in their warped minds neccesary for them, to inflict the "will
of God" on the unsuspecting Indians and whoever else opposed their
harsh doctrine and unforgiving authority. Considering that the Pequots
were slaughtered in 1637, and that the "Wickedness" wasn't considered
to "break forth" until 1642 , shows just how confused and contorted in
their thinking, and in their interpretation of godliness, these
vicious scoundrels really were.
Roger Williams, who was one of the more enlightened souls among the
Pilgrims, was banished from Massachuetts for his "radical" notions
about Christianity. Williams recalled his banishment:
"When I was unkindly and unchristianly, as I believe, driven from my
house and land and wife and children (in the midst of a New England
winter....)"
Williams went on to found Providence, Rhode Island, which became the
chief refuge for freethinkers in New England. Williams was better
inclined toward the Indians than most. Writing about the Indians he
said:
"All men of conscience or prudence ply to windward, to maintain their
(the Indians) wars to be defensive."
The English drive for wars of conquest was said by Williams to be
driven by:
"a depraved appetite after the great vanities, dreams and shadows of
this vanishing life, great portions of land, land in this wilderness,
as if men were in as great necessity and danger for want of great
portions of land, as poor, hungry, thirsty seamen have, after a sick
and stormy, a long and starving passage. This is one of the gods of
New England, which the living and most high Eternal will destroy and
famish."
The Puritans, who according to the revisionist propaganda found in
American school textbooks were fleeing religious intolerance, showed
no tolerance for those who dared go against their severe doctrine. The
peace-loving Quakers were imprisoned, banished, whipped, had their
tongues cut out or were hanged for offending the sensibilities of
these so-called seekers of religious freedom. Cotton Mather wrote to
the captain of a ship, proposing that a ship full of Quakers be
scuttled at sea.
The Puritans practiced human sacrifice in order to appease their angry
God. When crop failures, disease, famine and other natural disasters
occured, the ignorant and extremely superstitious Pilgrims took these
events as a sign of God's displeasure . Unfortunate and innocent souls
were accused of witchcraft, blamed for the various calamities, and
were then cruelly tortured to death by their bloodthirsty
inquisitionists. One of the alleged witches was 5 years old, a special
set of handcuffs had to be made to fit her little wrists.
The Pilgrims felt justified in all their evil deeds because they were
fighting supposed "red devils" and "emissaries of Satan". Their
fanaticism was based on Fundamentalist dogma, and was fueled by the
same siege mentality, mass hysteria and paranoia found in all
dangerous cults. The Bible is used by such groups to enable the
dysfunctional need of their leaders to always have the last word in an
argument, the Bible supposedly providing the final authority. The
"Word of God" grants the ultimate means of control to the group
leaders over their flock of followers, who are referred to as "sheep".
The so-called "Good Book" is brandished as an instrument of
destruction whenever justification for murder is required, an
instrument of control whenever fear is needed to keep the subjects
properly disciplined.
In the long history of fanaticism and violence perpetrated by
religious zealots, the hypocrisy and utter treachery of the Puritans
stands as a testament to intolerance , avarice and ethnic cleansing.
Their fearful self-loathing, their revulsion and contempt for Nature,
their abject terror of the wrath of an angry God and their hatred of
their fellow man combined to create a murderous frenzy of genocide and
mayhem.
Not even Charles Manson and Jim Jones combined could compare with that
murderous Doomsday cult - the Pilgrims.
Within an hour, 400-700 men, women, and children are put to the sword
or burned to death as the English torch the village. Unfamiliar with
war targeted at civilians, for the first time Native Tribes experience
the total devastating effects of warfare practiced by Europeans.
The battle cuts the heart from the Pequot people and scatters them
across what is now southern New England, Long Island, and Upstate New
York. Over the next few months, remaining resistors are either tracked
down and killed or enslaved. The name "Pequot" is outlawed by the
English. The Puritan justification for the action is simply stated by
Captain Underhill, one of the English commanders, in his journal,
Newes from America:
It may be demanded, Why should you be so furious? Should not
Christians have more mercy and compassion? Sometimes the Scripture
declareth women and children must perish with their parents. Sometimes
the case alters, but we will not dispute it now. We had sufficient
light from the word of God for our proceedings.
Read more about The Pequot War
http://www.pequotwar.com/index_files/history1.htm
Read more about the Pequot War at this excellent site:
PEQUOT HISTORY http://www.dickshovel.com/peq.html
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Rules of War Broken in Falluja Assault -Amnesty
LONDON (Reuters) - The rules of war protecting civilians and wounded
combatants have been broken by both sides in the week-long assault on
the Iraqi city of Falluja, the human rights group Amnesty
International said on Monday.
The London-based group, which gave examples of what it said were
breaches of the rules by both U.S. troops and insurgents, demanded
that all violations be investigated and those responsible brought to
justice.
Not only had the attacking U.S. and Iraqi troops failed to take the
necessary steps to ensure that non-combatants did not come under fire,
but insurgents had also abused flags of truce and fired
indiscriminately.
"Amnesty International fears that civilians have been killed, in
contravention of international humanitarian law, as a result of
failure by parties to the fighting to take necessary precautions to
protect non-combatants," Amnesty said.
Amnesty said 20 Iraqi medical staff and dozens of other civilians were
killed when a missile hit a Falluja clinic on Nov. 9, according to a
doctor who survived the strike -- though it was not known who fired
the missile.
On the same day a 9-year-old boy bled to death after being hit in the
stomach by shrapnel. Unable to take him to hospital because of the
fighting, his parents buried him in their garden.
Elsewhere a woman and her three daughters were reported killed when
their house was bombed, Amnesty said.
It also said a British television program, Channel Four News,
broadcast footage on Nov. 11 that appeared to show an American soldier
firing a shot in the direction of a wounded insurgent behind a wall
and then commenting "he's gone."
"Under international humanitarian law the U.S. forces have an
obligation to protect fighters hors de combat. Amnesty International
calls on the U.S. authorities to investigate this incident
immediately," the human rights watchdog said.
Johnny Asia
Saboteurs bomb oil pipeline, northern wells ablaze
KIRKUK (AFP) - Saboteurs blew up a section of an oil pipeline in the
northern region of Kirkuk, while flames raged in four oil wells after
a string of bombings the previous day, officials said.
The secondary pipeline carrying oil to refineries in the city of
Baiji was bombed at around 3:00 am (0000 GMT) about 60 kilometres (37
miles) west of Kirkuk, said police officer Sahim Mohammed.
The attack triggered a huge blaze, but firefighters kept away because
rebels had warned of dire consequences if they intervened, he said.
Hitting Iraq where it hurts the most, attackers detonated four bombs
near oil wells in Al-Khabbaza oil field near Kirkuk on Sunday. Flames
were still burning fiercely on Monday, said a security officer for oil
installations.
"The wells are still on fire, after they were attacked yesterday by a
group of 30-40 saboteurs who set up explosives in a number of oil
wells to the west of Kirkuk," said Major Hammodi Ali.
"Four wells were set on fire and as far as we know, there are some
other wells with bombs not exploded yet," he told AFP. "This is the
first time, the Al-Khabbaza oil field has been targeted since the
(US-led) invasion."
Johnny Asia
>
> I live in Jacksonville, FL, the cultural desert of the Southeast. I have
> never met so many stupid people in my life. I have lived in 7 major
> metropolitan areas, and the South takes the cake. Everything in that article
> is true. You can hang in the ignorance if you want, but January 2, I am
> outta here. And if you are the true billy-bob I think you are, you will say,
> "Good riddance, don't let the door hit you in the ass." Be a good little
> delbert and face the facts.
Move to Ohio! The only way the US can rid itself of the plague of
religious loons who control the govt. is a mass exodus of thinking
people from Red states to Ohio.
Let the Great Brain Drain begin!
ulysses
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> Fighting Sweeps Iraq's Sunni Heartland
Yes, and Iraqi forces are steadily taking a more active & decisive
role in defeating the terror-insurgents. Ted Kennedy's stomach won't
like it, but those Iraqi elections are right on track.
ulysses
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http://www.csmonitor.com/2004/1115/p08s03-comv.html
The Message From Fallujah
November 15, 2004
The battle for Fallujah will go down in history as a textbook example
of urban warfare. The US military used the most advanced technology
and the best street-fighting tactics to hunt down the entrenched
insurgents while keeping civilian casualties to a minimum.
But the message of Fallujah isn't the prowess of the United States but
its tenacity.
Having failed last April to retake that small Sunni city, the US could
not again afford to appear weak to the would-be voters of Iraq. With
elections planned for late January, Iraqis had to be shown that the US
military, along with the fledgling Iraqi Army, will keep eliminating
safe sanctuaries for hostage-taking terrorists and bombmaking
insurgents.
At the height of the battle, President Bush predicted more insurgent
violence ahead. Indeed, even though more than a thousand of them were
killed in the battle, many insurgents - including top leaders like
Jordanian Abu Musab al-Zarqawi - had already fled. But as long as the
US and its allies keep them on the run, and more important, separate
them from civilian supporters, the US has a chance to convince Iraqis
that such battles will be won and that it's worth standing up against
the insurgents and for democracy.
The Iraqis who really need convincing are the Sunnis, or about one
fifth of the Iraqi population. The US victory in Fallujah so far has
not led to widespread Sunni uprisings as happened during the last
assault on the city. Last April, Iraqis knew the US was mainly trying
to retaliate for the brutal killing of four US security workers.
Civilian casualties were much higher in that battle. This time, the
battle was for Iraqis' future, and civilians were given ample time to
leave the city.
In addition, Iraq now has a more legitimate interim government, one
working with Arab countries and the United Nations. Desertions within
the new Iraqi Army are also fewer, though infiltration by insurgents
remains a problem.
The Bush administration has had to learn quickly from its early
mistakes in Iraq. Building a democracy from scratch has been literally
hit and miss. The administration can show it's continuing to learn by
now providing long-term order to Fallujah with loyal Iraqi troops,
quickly providing basic services, and extending the political rule of
Prime Minister Allawi to the city.
Some Sunni Muslim preachers will continue to call on people to take up
arms and to boycott the election. They fear the Shiite majority will
dominate a nationally elected government. If it can pacify Sunni
cities that harbor insurgents before the election, the US will reduce
the desire among some Sunnis to revive the Saddam era, when Sunnis
ruled. Instead, Sunnis may begin to see their only future lies in
competing at the ballot box.
If that happens, the insurgents would be fighting their own people,
and would surely lose. Then the US military will have really won.
Johnny Asia
Are we all in Bush's hell?
He and his lying robber barons and fellow neo-christian
blood cult members belong there for sure, but not the rest of us.
Johnny Asia
and guilt-ridden.
Teens With Same-Sex Parents Well-Adjusted
By Karen Pallarito
HealthDay Reporter
MONDAY, Nov. 15 (HealthDayNews) -- Adolescents who have two moms as
parents are no different from teens growing up with a mother and a
father, a new study finds.
On measures of psychosocial well-being, school functioning, and
romantic relationships and behaviors, the teens with same-sex parents
were as well adjusted as their peers with opposite-sex parents. The
authors found very few differences between the two groups. A more
important predictor of teens' psychological and social adjustment,
they found, is the quality of the relationships they have with their
parents.
"This is the first study that has looked at adolescents with same-sex
parents in a national sample, and it shows clearly across a wide range
of variables that they're doing pretty well," said study author
Charlotte J. Patterson, a professor of psychology at the University of
Virginia in Charlottesville.
The research, published in the November issue of Child Development,
draws data from the National Longitudinal Study of Adolescent Health,
a school-based study of the health-related behaviors of kids in grades
7-12.
Dr. Ellen C. Perrin, a professor of pediatrics at Tufts School of
Medicine and an expert on the development of children with gay or
lesbian parents, said that few studies have focused on adolescents of
same-sex parents. What data there is has been subject to attack.
Critics complain that the studies reflect researcher bias and
non-random participant selection.
"In this case, neither of those critiques are valid," Perrin said. The
new study uses data from a broad population-based survey conducted for
entirely different reasons. "That makes it very clean, so to speak; no
one could argue that there was any bias involved."
Estimates of the number of teens living with same-sex parents are hard
to come by. As of 1990, 6 million to 14 million children were living
with a gay or lesbian parent, says the National Adoption Information
Clearinghouse, a service of the U.S. Administration for Children and
Families.
Perrin believes that a majority of these children were born into
heterosexual families. "Only recently have there been increasing
numbers of kids born or adopted into already stable same-sex couples,"
she explained.
The study sample included 44 children, 12 to 18 years old, parented by
same-sex couples and an equivalent number of peers with opposite-sex
parents. The two groups had an equal number of girls and boys and
other similarities, including ethnic background, family income, and
parents' level of education.
Overall, researchers found no significant differences between the two
groups. Teens with two moms, for example, were neither more nor less
likely than their peers with two opposite-sex parents to report having
been involved in a romantic relationship during the past year or ever
having sex. Both groups were generally well-adjusted, with relatively
high levels of self-esteem, relatively low levels of anxiety, and good
achievement in school.
The study reveals a minor difference: "The kids of same-sex parents
said that they feel more connected at school," Patterson said. In
other words, they felt their teachers were more open to them, and that
people at school were fair and cared for them. "I think that may be a
chance finding, frankly," she said.
While family type wasn't a factor in how teens fared, family
relationships were. When parents reported more positive relationships
with their teenagers, for instance, the teens reported lower levels of
depressive symptoms.
"The qualities of teenagers' relationships with their parents are much
better predictors of their overall well-being," Patterson noted.
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T.J. Johnson
Democrats have their wits, Republicans have their passion to protect
america in the armies. Its a working machine that drives america.
Without republicans our military would be too weak and outside
influences could invade. Without democrats, our Domestic policies
would be less then perfect and yes, alot of leading edge science gone
amiss, however take away one party and the other cannot function How
long will it take to realize that?
George
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>
> Are we all in Bush's hell?
Soon.
sabot120mm
Another compassionate liberal k00kwit spews forth. You libwits are the
ones who need to read the COnstitution.
Johnny Asia
LONDON (Reuters) - A television pool report by U.S. network NBC said
on Monday that a U.S. Marine had shot dead an unarmed and wounded
Iraqi prisoner in a mosque in Falluja.
The Iraqi was one of five wounded prisoners left in the mosque after
Marines had fought their way in on Friday and Saturday. There was no
immediate comment from the Pentagon on the report.
U.S. forces launched an offensive one week ago on Falluja, and have
gained overall control of the formerly rebel-held city, although
scattered resistance remains.
The pool report by NBC correspondent Kevin Sites said the mosque had
been used by insurgents to attack U.S. forces, who stormed it and an
adjacent building, killing 10 militants and wounding the five.
Sites said the wounded had been left in the mosque for others to pick
up and move to the rear for treatment. No reason was given why that
had not happened.
A second group of Marines entered the mosque on Saturday after reports
it had been reoccupied. Footage from the embedded television crew
showed the five still in the mosque, although several appeared to be
already close to death, Sites said.
He said one Marine noticed one of the prisoners was still breathing.
A Marine can be heard saying on the pool footage provided to Reuters
Television: "He's fucking faking he's dead. He faking he's fucking
dead."
"The Marine then raises his rifle and fires into the man's head. The
pictures are too graphic for us to broadcast," Sites said. No images
of the shooting were shown in the footage provided to Reuters.
Sites said the shot prisoner "did not appear to be armed or
threatening in any way."
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Johnny Asia
What you and the other Bushies don't realize, is he is the freaking
antichrist! You'll all burn with him.
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>
> On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 17:05:01 -0600, "George" wrote:
> >
> >"Johnny Asia" <pope_about_town at Xyahoo.com > wrote:
> >>
> >> Are we all in Bush's hell?
> >
> >Soon.
> >
>
> What you and the other Bushies don't realize, is he is the freaking
> antichrist! You'll all burn with him.
I don't believe in the AntiChrist
but I wish there was
because whomever He would be
He'd have to better than the Idiot
occupying the whitehouse right now...
Gandalf Grey
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I think a lot of intelligent people do realize that. The current problem is
that the GOP is in the complete grip of it's most reactionary elements.
Just as the democratic party goes wrong when it leans completely to the left
and embraces unbridled, no-compromise socialism, the GOP goes wrong when it
surrenders to it's plutocratic right wing.
In a sense that's the real problem right now. Kissinger realized it years
ago when he described what happens when a truly revolutionary party takes
over the government. We all expect compromise and lines over which a ruling
party will not step. But those lines are not there anymore. The democrats
are still reeling from the blow they took when Bush essentially began to
dismantle the structure of the constitution with one move after another. As
Paul Krugman put it, surely Bush won't go so far as to suspend elections or
dissolve congress or etc., etc.....or will he? The fact is we really don't
know anymore.
In sum, the problem is that George Bush and his followers are NOT
republicans. They are extremist right wingers looking to overthrow the
government of the United States and replace it with a theocratic
corporatocracy. They aren't playing by the rules because they don't
recognize the rules as being valid for them.
Gandalf Grey
"Johnny Asia" <pope_about_town at Xyahoo.com > wrote in message
> On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 17:05:01 -0600, "George"
> <spam...@nospam.forme.tv> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Johnny Asia" <pope_about_town at Xyahoo.com > wrote in message
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> >>
> >> Are we all in Bush's hell?
> >
> >Soon.
> >
>
> What you and the other Bushies don't realize, is he is the freaking
> antichrist! You'll all burn with him.
They realize it all right. At least some. What a lot of us still aren't
getting is that the Bushies WANT a police state. They WANT a theocracy.
People like George are the intellectual heirs of the same people who fought
against the creation of this country in the very beginning. They are the
heirs of those who sided with the British and had to run out of the country
after the war was over. They opposed the Constitution, they hated Jefferson
and Madison and they've been acting to undermine the country ever since.
They aren't interested in the rules embedded in our constitution. They are
a revolutionary force and they've gained momentary power in history, and
they're here to destroy most of what the public perceives as American
democracy.
Now, once it becomes undeniably apparent what these revolutionaries want,
the public will turn on them completely. The only question is how much
damage will be done before that happens and how many lives will have to be
lost?
John Tibbs
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> NBC Says Marine Shot Dead Wounded Iraqi Prisoner
>
soldiers with. Hanoi would be proud of you!
jt
John Tibbs
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We in the South can afford it and you elsewhere obviouls need more brains!
jt
John Tibbs
Don't know but the democrats are dead set on destroying their party. The
Clinton's have given them a good start!
jt
Johnny Asia
>jt
Imagine more than 1,000 9/11's.
That's what we did to Vietnam, all for oil.
And yet, they forgave us.
Johnny Asia
The US is a rogue elephant running amok and
trampling the world.
France's Chirac Says UK Won Nothing from Bush Support
LONDON (Reuters) - French President Jacques Chirac said in a newspaper
interview on Tuesday that Britain has gained nothing from its support
for the United States-led invasion of Iraq.
Chirac said he had urged Britain before the invasion to press
President Bush to revive the Middle East peace process in return for
London's support.
"Well, Britain gave its support but I did not see much in return,"
Chirac was quoted as saying in the Times. "I am not sure that it is in
the nature of our American friends at the moment to return favors
systematically."
Blair's staunch support for Washington over Iraq led to bitter
divisions within his ruling Labor Party and dragged down his public
approval ratings.
Chirac, who will hold talks with Blair when he makes a state visit to
Britain on Thursday, recalled a Franco-British summit last year when
he asked his British counterpart to try to influence U.S. policy on
the Middle East.
"I said then to Tony Blair: 'We have different positions on Iraq. Your
position should at least have some use'. That is to try to obtain in
exchange a relaunch of the peace process in the Middle East."
Chirac questioned whether Britain could act as a bridge between the
United States and Europe to help heal the rift that developed over the
Iraq war. France and Germany were among the most vocal opponents of
U.S. military action to oust former Iraqi President Saddam Hussein.
"I am not sure with America as it is these days that it would be easy
for someone, even the British, to be an honest broker," Chirac was
quoted as saying in the Times.
Stuart Warren
> That's what we did to Vietnam, all for oil.
There's oil in Vietnam??
Stuart Warren
Stuart Warren
There are also reports that the soldier that did it was recently shot
himself, possibly through a similar tactic (the insurgents are known to
booby-trap their dead, and do other such stuff).
Stuart Warren
Steven Litvintchouk
Stuart Warren wrote:
Yes! In fact, after the normalization of relations between Vietnam and
the U.S., the U.S. is now Vietnam's biggest customer for oil. Surprise!
And you thought that the lefties only said Iraq was "all about oil."
They actually said the same thing in the early days of the Vietnam War
too--that the U.S. went into Vietnam for "oil imperialism."
It's easy for lefties to play this game. In search of new supplies of
oil, oil companies have gone prospecting for oil in every continent on
earth, and in over a hundred countries. Thus no matter where the U.S.
intervenes militarily, you can bet that oil companies were there once if
they aren't still there. And hence the lefties can always find an "oil
connection" with every U.S. military action--and claim "it's all about oil."
--
Steven D. Litvintchouk
Email: sdli...@earthlinkNOSPAM.net
Remove the NOSPAM before replying to me.
Isle Of The Dead
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>
> They realize it all right. At least some. What a lot of us still aren't
> getting is that the Bushies WANT a police state.
I always suspected that Hanson was a racist.
But I'm surprised that he's sexist, too.
I ashamed of you, Rick.
As a true liberal, I ashamed that you no longer
have the balls to support a black woman as
Secretary of State.
KKK indeed!
Johnny Asia
>
>There's oil in Vietnam??
>
>Stuart Warren
>
At the early stage of oil exploration in offshore southern Vietnam,
the former Saigon Administration allowed oil companies including
Pecten, Mobil, Esso and Marathon to conduct petroleum activities
through concession agreements.
THE VIETNAM INVASION
Herbert Hoover, later to become President of the United States did a
study that showed that one of the world's largest oil fields ran along
the coast of the South China Sea right off French Indo-China, now
known as Vietnam.
- Denny, Ludwell, We Fight of Oil, Alfred A. Knopf, New York, 1928.
US analyst Ludwell Denny in his book "We Fight for Oil" noted the
domestic oil shortage and says international diplomacy had failed to
secure any reliable foreign sources of oil for the United States. Fear
of oil shortages would become the most important factor in
international relations, Denny said.
"That empire in Southeast Asia is the last major resource area outside
the control of any one of the major powers of the globe....I believe
that the condition of the Vietnamese people, and the direction in
which their future may be going, are at this stage secondary, not
primary." (Senator McGee, D-Wyo., in the U.S. Senate, Feb. 17, 1965)
In a 1965 speech in Asia, Richard Nixon argued in favor of bombing
North Vietnam to protect the "immense mineral potential" of Indonesia,
which he later referred to as "by far the greatest prize in the
southeast Asian area."
To protect its prizes, the US eventually killed over four million
people in Vietnam, Cambodia and Laos between 1965 and 1975. In South
Vietnam alone, the war resulted in a million widows and 879,000
orphans. It destroyed 9000 out of 15,000 hamlets, almost 40,000 square
miles of farmland and 18,750 square miles of forest.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Coordinating Committee for Geoscience Programmes in East and Southeast
Asia (CCOP)
http://www.ccop.or.th/epf/vietnam/vietnam_terms.html
PETROLEUM AGREEMENTS
"The first type of oil and gas agreement applied in Vietnam was the
concession system, in which an oil company is permitted by the host
country to explore and produce petroleum on a certain area on the
condition that it must pay to the State of this country compulsory
taxes with a fixed rate. At the early stage of oil exploration in
offshore southern Vietnam, the former Saigon Administration allowed
oil companies including Pecten, Mobil, Esso and Marathon to conduct
petroleum activities through concession agreements.
After the establishment of PetroVietnam in 1975, in recognition of the
advantage of the production-sharing system, it has been chosen as a
basic frame for petroleum contracts."
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
PETROVIETNAM, EXPLORATION OPPORTUNITIES FOR OIL AND NATURAL GAS IN
VIET NAM
I.2 Exploration History
The exploration activities for petroleum started in the early 1960s in
the Song Hong Delta, northern Vietnam, with assistance of the former
Soviet Union. By the late 1970’s, almost 40 wells had been drilled in
the region, however, only one small gas field was commercially
developed. At the same period, exploration went on in the southern
continental shelf through concession agreements signed with
international oil companies including Mobil, Esso, Pecten, Marathon,
and Texas Union.
FrankA
Johnny Asia
www.occupationwatch.org
November 14, 2004
By Assaf Kfoury
PUTTING FALLUJA TO THE TORCH
The conduct of US troops in Iraq has been a combination of extreme
brutality and wholesale destruction. Brutality towards Iraqis has
routinely come with systematic pillaging, if not wrecking, of the
country's civil institutions and productive capacity. As if, when the
time will finally come for US troops to go, they are determined to
leave
behind a landscape of ruins and carnage. Events in Falluja this past
week epitomized this conduct once again.
American troops started their offensive against Falluja on November 8
by occupying the main city hospital. According to the embedded New
York Times reporter, soldiers "eagerly" kicked in the doors of
Falluja General Hospital, and patients and hospital employees were
forced to lie on the floor while troops tied their hands behind their
backs. Although the NY Times reporter did not call it by its name,
this was a war crime, turning a medical facility into a theatre of
combat:
Early Target of Offensive is a Hospital
by Richard A. Oppel Jr.
http://www.occupationwatch.org/article.php?id=7642
Two days earlier, another hospital in the city center had been razed
to the ground by massive US air raids:
US strikes raze Falluja hospital
BBC News
http://www.occupationwatch.org/article.php?id=7798
What followed was an orgy of killing and destruction, pitting
warplanes, tanks and armored vehicles against insurgents armed with
Kalashnikov rifles. Even when embedded reporters revel in the killing
efficiency of US marines, they still describe the scene for what it
is, a "sliver of apocalypse" -- not the scene of a movie set but of a
real massacre, however casually described:
Will Meets Resistance in Deadly Logic of War
by Dexter Filkins & Robert F. Worth
http://www.occupationwatch.org/article.php?id=7782
Terrified civilians trying to flee the city were pushed back, to face
almost-certain death:
Rights Lawyers See Possibility of a War Crime
by Michael Janofsky
http://www.occupationwatch.org/article.php?id=7769
By the end of the week, the US war machine had swept through most of
the city, leaving behind shelled buildings, bullet-riddled cars and
rotting corpses:
Breaking a City in Order to Fix It
by Edward Wong
http://www.occupationwatch.org/article.php?id=7784
Ten days ago, commenting on the re-election of US President Bush on
November 2nd, former British foreign secretary Robin Cook wrote:
Bush will now celebrate by putting Falluja to the torch
by Robin Cook
http://www.occupationwatch.org/article.php?id=7800
Put Falluja to the torch, he did indeed. The logic is to put Iraqi
insurgents on notice that they can expect horror in exchange for
daring to resist a foreign occupier. Events of this past week bear
witness to this criminal policy. The US government and its puppet
regime in Baghdad will undoubtedly claim victory after laying waste to
Falluja. This may turn out a Pyrrhic victory. As Patrick Cockburn
notes, "it is likely to be as disappointing in terms of ending the
resistance as the capture of Saddam":
The Crushing of Fallujah Will Not End the War in Iraq
by Patrick Cockburn
http://www.occupationwatch.org/article.php?id=7687
Former UN arms-inspector Scott Ritter observes that, "far from facing
off in a decisive battle against the resistance fighters, it seems the
more Americans squeeze Falluja, the more the violence explodes
elsewhere. It is exercises in futility, akin to squeezing jello."
Squeezing Jello in Iraq
by Scott Ritter
http://www.occupationwatch.org/article.php?id=7697
Violence erupts across Iraq and aid agencies warn of disaster
as US declares battle of Fallujah is over
by Kim Sengupta
http://www.occupationwatch.org/article.php?id=7774
New insurgency confronts US forces
by Rory McCarthy and Michael Howard
http://www.occupationwatch.org/article.php?id=7737
The overwhelming majority of the world remains opposed to this
ruthless occupation. While Iraqis continue to pay its terrible price,
they may take some comfort from world-wide sympathy for their
agony. Several opinions from around the world were collected by the
Toronto Star:
'What did Falluja do to deserve this?'
Toronto Star
http://www.occupationwatch.org/article.php?id=7799
Johnny Asia
than 20 were non-Iraqis, despite American and Iraqi government reports
that much of the revolt had been staged by Arabs from other countries.
The attack on Fallujah is as bad as anything Saddam did.
Harry Grogan
> NBC Says Marine Shot Dead Wounded Iraqi Prisoner
>
Kinda' reminds me of the fleeing vietnamese teenager shot in the
back by the liberal democrat John Kerry.
BlackWater
>The US is a rogue elephant running amok and
>trampling the world.
>France's Chirac Says UK Won Nothing from Bush Support
>
>LONDON (Reuters) - French President Jacques Chirac said in a newspaper
>interview on Tuesday that Britain has gained nothing from its support
>for the United States-led invasion of Iraq.
Wow ... those are some SOUR grapes indeed !
Now Jacques, run along and play in Ivory Coast.
You've got a big mess to clean up ...
Johnny Asia
To humiliate the senators of Rome, Caligula appointed his horse to the
senate. To humiliate the world, Bush appointed Rice.
Johnny Asia
The video of a US Marine shooting an unarmed and wounded
Iraqi prisoner in a mosque has spread around the Middle East.
It has already stirred up even more anti-US sentiment.
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/CA613824-B948-4CF8-B17E-B9E55674A925.htm
mr_antone
wrote:
Oops, danny just broke the irony meter.
Say when are you going to Iraq whip a little bit of freedom on the
Iraqi people, danny ? Too scared? A chickenhawk, maybe?
mr_antone
BlackWater
>To humiliate the senators of Rome, Caligula appointed his horse
>to the senate. To humiliate the world, Bush appointed Rice.
Got a little racism issue there, don't you ?
Can't STAND it when those supposedly rednecky
Republitards don't hesitate to put 'black'
people into positions of power ...
George
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>
>
> The video of a US Marine shooting an unarmed and wounded
> Iraqi prisoner in a mosque has spread around the Middle East.
> It has already stirred up even more anti-US sentiment.
>
>
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/CA613824-B948-4CF8-B17E-B9E55674A925.htm
>
The terrorists that the Marines and Army are fighting do not honor the
Geneva and Hague conventions. They murder innocent people, the behead
captives, and they torture women. They have committed many "Crimes Against
Humanity" under international law. And as they do not obey the "laws of
war," they cannot claim protection under them.
1. These terrorists fought from a mosque in violation of the conventions.
2. Under the conventions, irregular fighters are required to disassociate
themselves from the civilian population, not hide among them. These
terrorists have been using civilians as shields.
3. Under the conventions, irregular fighters ARE REQUIRED to wear
identifiers such as distinctive armbands or headress. These terrorists did
not.
4. These terrorists fired upon uniformed Marines of the United States,
giving them the right to fire back.
5. The fact that these terrorists were wounded and given aid by other
Marines does not change the fact that they WERE NOT IN CUSTODY AND WERE
TECHNICALLY STILL IRREGULAR COMBATANTS IN VIOLATION OF THE "LAWS OF WAR."
6. Accordingly, these terrorists deserve NOTHING. Unarmed or not, wounded
or not, the minute they opened fire upon the Marines they can be killed at
whim and at any time -- even 24 hours later -- without the protection of the
Geneva and Hague conventions, subject ONLY to the orders given to the marine
involved and any applicable parts of the Uniform Code of Military Justice,
if any.
6. I see two applicable charges against this marine: Poor fire disclipline
("endangerment") by firing inside a mosque where overpenatration and
ricochet could injure other marines, and "wasting a bullet," the replacement
of which will have to be schlepped by someone else to him. He should have
given him some "Islamic Justice" and slit his throat instead. Terrorists
SHOULD be summarily executed when ever we find them.
I know traitors like you will jump on any chance to hurt the United States.
And I know that the US government is anxious to avoid bad publicity. So I
suspect that you and the rest of the enemies of the USA that post in these
news groups will do everything you can to attack the government over this.
And I expect the government to scapegoat this man to (unsuccessfully, I bet)
appease traitor-fucks and lying bastards like you and court-martial the man
rather than non-judicial punishment ("Captains Mast") for killing a war
criminal in the field.
My only regret is that the head that the marine pumped a 5.56mm bullet into
wasn't YOURS, you God damned traitor.
GO DEVIL DOGS! GET SOME!!
KILL THE ENEMIES OF THE UNITED STATES WHEN YOU FIND THEM!
John Tibbs
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Difference is the republicans promote minorities that actually have
abilities and qualifications in the process. The dems only require color
and party leanings!
jt
>
George
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> Occupation Watch Bulletin
> www.occupationwatch.org
> November 14, 2004
> By Assaf Kfoury
>
>
> PUTTING FALLUJA TO THE TORCH
BOUNCE THE RUBBLE!
Spartakus
> Johnny Asia <pope_about_town at Xyahoo.com > wrote...
> > NBC Says Marine Shot Dead Wounded Iraqi Prisoner
> Kinda' reminds me of the fleeing vietnamese teenager shot in the
> back by the liberal democrat John Kerry.
Still clinging desperately to John O'Neill's lies? The fleeing
Vietnamese was VC, wasn't a teenager and was carrying a loaded rocket
launcher. You can't justify the brutality of what we are doing in
Fallujah by lying about John Kerry, you know.
Johnny Asia
. Rice was a seriously flawed national security advisor; the
Washington Post points out that "many experts consider her one of the
weakest national security advisers in recent history in terms of
managing interagency conflicts." She is, however, a constant, loyal,
dedicated Bush devotee, ready to work on "behalf of a boss whose
sentences she can finish, and who trusts her totally to carry out his
wishes." As the New York Times reports, "Ms. Rice seems unlikely to
have any agenda but Mr. Bush's. She would be closer to her president
…probably than any cabinet officer since Robert F. Kennedy served as
his brother's attorney general." For his second term, President Bush
is swiftly replacing many members of his cabinet with members of his
close inner circle. Ivo Daalder, a special advisor for the Center for
American Progress, states, "Her appointment means that the president
wants to surround himself with the people he's most comfortable with,
and who are most loyal to his view of what foreign policy's all
about." Here's a look at Rice's record:
INATTENTION TO TERRORISM: According to the 9/11 Commission report,
chief White House expert on terrorism Richard Clarke sent Rice an
urgent memo just days after she took office, stressing the severity of
the terrorist threat. She did not respond, and although the national
security leadership "met formally nearly 100 times in the months prior
to the Sept. 11 attacks…terrorism was the topic during only two of
those sessions." The first meeting on al Qaeda did not occur until
9/4/01.
MISLEADING STATEMENTS PRE-WAR: Rice was one of the primary
perpetrators of misinformation in the push for war with Iraq. In
September 2002, she claimed, "We do know that [Saddam] is actively
pursuing a nuclear weapon." Weapons inspector David Kay and his
successor, Charles Duelfer, debunked that outright, saying Saddam had
no nuclear program. Rice also pushed the phantom nuclear threat by
charging that certain aluminum tubes Saddam sought were "only really
suited for nuclear weapons programs, centrifuge programs." A 10/3/04
New York Times article exposed that as false.
RICE GIVEN LEADERSHIP ROLE IN IRAQ, FIZZLES: In October 2003,
President Bush announced he was "giving his national security adviser,
Condoleezza Rice, the authority to manage postwar Iraq." With great
fanfare, Rice was put in charge of the "Iraq Stabilization Group."
Seven months later, the Washington Post reported "the four original
leaders of the Stabilization Group have taken on new roles, and only
one remains concerned primarily with Iraq." Even within the White
House, "the destabilized Stabilization Group is a metaphor for an Iraq
policy that is adrift." According to the White House website, the Iraq
stabilization group hasn't been publicly mentioned for more than a
year.
MISLEADING STATEMENTS POST-WAR: Even after the invasion of Iraq failed
to turn up any evidence of weapons of mass destruction, Rice continued
a calculated effort to keep the nonexistent threat in the public eye.
On 9/7/03, she ominously warned, "we don't want the smoking gun to be
a mushroom cloud." On 3/18/04, Rice said that "It's not as if anybody
believes that Saddam Hussein was without weapons of mass destruction."
In fact, the administration's handpicked weapons inspector, David Kay,
had publicly said – two months earlier – that he didn't believe Saddam
had WMD before the March 2003 invasion. When Kay resigned in January
he said "he did not believe banned stockpiles existed before the
invasion" and that pre-war intelligence that said Iraq possessed WMD
was probably "all wrong."
RICE UNDER OATH: Rice initially refused to appear before the 9/11
Commission. When she finally agreed to testify, she refused to play it
straight. Called before the Commission to examine potential White
House inattention to the al Qaeda threat before the attacks, Rice was
asked about a Presidential Daily Briefing (PDB) the president received
on 8/6/01. In front of the Commission, Rice testified there was
"nothing about the threat of attack in the U.S." in the PDB. Under
further questioning, she admitted that, in fact, "the title [of the
PDB] was, 'Bin Laden Determined to Attack Inside the United States.'"
POLITICIZING NATIONAL SECURITY: Breaking with the precedent that
dictates the director of national security should remain above the
political fray and away from the campaign trail, during the 2004
campaign National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice took time out from
her busy national security duties to stump for the president across
key battleground states. She was roundly criticized by Zbigniew
Brzezinski, the former national security adviser under President Jimmy
Carter, who "said the national security adviser is the 'custodian' of
the nation's most sensitive national security secrets and should be
seen as an objective adviser to the president."
http://www.americanprogressaction.org/site/pp.asp?c=klLWJcP7H&b=83210
Gogarty
>>
>
>The terrorists that the Marines and Army are fighting do not honor the
>Geneva and Hague conventions.
Neither does the US.
They murder innocent people,
So does and has the US. Many thousands of them.
the behead
>captives, and they torture women. They have committed many "Crimes Against
>Humanity" under international law. And as they do not obey the "laws of
>war," they cannot claim protection under them.
So has the US, many many time over.
The bottom line is that these people are fighting in their own land to expel a
foreign invader. But you people can't understanbd that, or don't want to..
suds mcduff
> Johnny Asia <pope_about_town at Xyahoo.com > wrote in message news:<adgip0trkg91s7sll...@4ax.com>...
> > NBC Says Marine Shot Dead Wounded Iraqi Prisoner
> >
>
>
> Kinda' reminds me of the fleeing vietnamese teenager shot in the
> back by the liberal democrat John Kerry.
You mean this one?:
ON THE LAST DAY of February 1969, rifle-toting Mike Medeiros found
himself running through the Vietnamese jungle, following a young Lt.
John Kerry, who was chasing a teenage Viet Cong soldier armed with a
grenade launcher.
It was a fairly typical day for Medeiros, a San Leandro native who
served for seven intense and bloody weeks on a Navy swiftboat
commanded by the then-25-year-old Kerry, now the Democratic nominee
for president.
Medeiros, who still lives in San Leandro, was the rear gunner on
Kerry's boat, a 50-foot aluminum craft with no armor and noisy diesel
engines.
"The element of surprise was never with you," Medeiros, 56, said last
week. "You'd go up a river and get ambushed and shoot it out with the
enemy. There were only one or two occasions we went up a river and
didn't get shot at."
Medeiros is on active duty in the U.S. Army as a staff sergeant --
he's helping to train National Guard units on their way to Iraq at Ft.
Bliss, Texas -- and cannot directly endorse any candidates.
But he and his crew mates showed up on stage with Kerry last month at
the Democratic Convention in Boston.
Medeiros describes Kerry in Vietnam as daring and highly competent,
and said recent allegations by a group of Vietnam veterans who
question Kerry's record are "totally false."
Kerry "always led from the front," Medeiros said. "He was always the
first one off (the boat). He was just dedicated, and he wanted to
accomplish something."
...
"My personal opinion is (the anti-Kerry ad) is totally politically
motivated," Medeiros said. "It's a real shallow attempt to defame a
guy because they didn't like his political stance in 1971."
A leader of the anti-Kerry group, longtime Kerry antagonist John
O'Neill, is co-author of a new book accusing Kerry of winning the
Silver Star after shooting a fleeing Viet Cong soldier in the back.
Medeiros, who was with Kerry during the shooting, says that's not how
it happened.
On the day of the now-famous incident, Medeiros said the swiftboat,
PCF-94, was heading upriver when it ran into an ambush. Rockets were
flying out of the jungle, and Kerry "made a decision to put the boats
in and get these guys," Medeiros said.
Kerry's boat happened to hit the shore right in front of an enemy
soldier holding a grenade launcher. The soldier started running, maybe
to get enough distance to be able to fire his weapon at the boat,
Medeiros said.
Kerry's forward gunner managed to hit the guerrilla, who appeared to
be a teenager, according to reports on the incident. Although he was
hit in the leg, the guerrilla kept running with his weapon, which
could have done serious damage to the boat and the sailors on board.
Medeiros remembers Kerry jumping off the boat to give chase.
"I saw him running down this trail after this guy, and I followed
him," Medeiros said. "Just as I rounded a corner behind him, (Kerry)
shot the guy."
Kerry won the Silver Star, even though beaching boats to engage the
enemy was a highly unorthodox tactic in the Navy.
"It was almost heresy for a Navy boat to beach itself and for people
to get off," Medeiros said. "I'm not sure if anybody had done it
before we did it or not."
Retired Rear Adm. Roy Hoffman, chairman of the anti-Kerry group, "sat
in a nice, fairly safe rear echelon area (during the war) and hardly
ever left it," Medeiros said. "He's kind of a pugnacious little guy.
He was very gung ho, but he never got a chance to do anything."
Hoffman and George Elliott, one of the vets in the recent attack ad,
gave Kerry glowing performance reviews during the war. Elliott,
Kerry's commanding officer in Vietnam, has praised Kerry's courage,
and told the Boston Globe that Kerry's Silver Star medal was "well
deserved."
----Where were Bush and Cheney when all this fightin was goin on?
Johnny Asia
Tuesday 16 November 2004, 18:33 Makka Time, 15:33 GMT
Top United Nations human rights official Louise Arbour has called for
an investigation of alleged abuses in Falluja including
disproportionate use of force and the targeting of civilians.
Those responsible for any violations – US-led forces, Iraqi government
troops or fighters - should be brought to justice, the former UN war
crimes prosecutor said in a statement on Tuesday.
"There have been a number of reports during the current confrontation
alleging violations of the rules of war designed to protect civilians
and combatants," Arbour said.
She gave no specific examples. But on Monday, Amnesty International
accused both sides of breaking rules designed to protect civilians and
wounded combatants during conflict.
Failure
Attacking US and Iraqi troops had failed to take necessary steps to
ensure non-combatants did not come under fire. Resistance fghters had
abused flags of truce and fired indiscriminately, the London-based
group said.
All violations of international humanitarian and human rights law must
be investigated, including "the deliberate targeting of civilians,
indiscriminate and disproportionate attacks, the killing of injured
persons and the use of human shields", Arbour said.
Controversy over the Falluja offensive has been fuelled by video
footage showing a US marine shooting dead a wounded and unarmed Iraqi
in a mosque in Falluja on Saturday.
The US military has begun an investigation into possible war crimes
over the incident, filmed in a television pool report by NBC.
Arbour, the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights, said she was
especially worried about civilians still in Falluja, who might lack
access to aid, and about the paucity of information on civilian
casualties.
Iraq's interim government says civilian casualties during the US-led
assault on Falluja have been minimal and that reports of a
humanitarian crisis in the city are exaggerated.
But a spokeswoman for the International Committee of the Red Cross
(ICRC) insisted in Geneva on Tuesday there were civilians still in the
city, in need of food, water and medicine.
"The ICRC is very worried about the humanitarian situation in Falluja,
because we are receiving information from families that are still
there that the injured have no access to medical care," Rana Sidani
told Reuters.
The ICRC did not know how many people were left in the shattered city
of 300,000, but the Iraqi Red Crescent put the figure at around 150
families, she added.
Jim
> LONDON (Reuters) - A television pool report by U.S. network NBC said
> on Monday that a U.S. Marine had shot dead an unarmed and wounded
> Iraqi prisoner in a mosque in Falluja.
Does that mean he'll be awarded the Silver Star and run for President in 30 years?
Jim
BlackWater
wrote:
Sometimes true. The 'left' always seems more interested
in 'appearances' than function.
BlackWater
Xyahoo.com > wrote:
It's important that those occupying the major cabinet
posts be "in sync" with the president. They should
have a similar worldview, a similar way of approaching
problems and a similar political agenda.
Powell was out of sync. Good man - but the *wrong* man
after 9-11.
As for Rices' supposed "failures" ...
(a) It's a group effort up there and I think she
didn't get all the help and info she really
needed.
(b) If YOU can do it better, put your name in the hat.
Stuart Warren
news:iPKdna2igd_...@bway.net...
> Neither does the US.
Neither does the rest of the world. The US and Britain, and maybe a couple
of other Western nations, are the only people that have *ever* paid any more
than lip service to Geneva, unless it's to use it against the West when we
screw up.
Stuart Warren
Robert R.
> "Johnny Asia" <pope_about_town at Xyahoo.com > wrote in message
> news:dhvjp0phep98jtclf...@4ax.com...
> >
> >
> > The video of a US Marine shooting an unarmed and wounded
> > Iraqi prisoner in a mosque has spread around the Middle East.
> > It has already stirred up even more anti-US sentiment.
> >
> >
> http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/CA613824-B948-4CF8-B17E-B9E55674A925.htm
> >
>
> The terrorists that the Marines and Army are fighting do not honor the
> Geneva and Hague conventions. They murder innocent people, the behead
> captives, and they torture women. They have committed many "Crimes Against
> Humanity" under international law. And as they do not obey the "laws of
> war," they cannot claim protection under them.
Christ, what a moron.
Criminals, by definition, don't obey the law, but that doesn't mean
they aren't protected by it.
The marine involved deserves a court-martial and, if convicted, a
noose.
Robert R.
midtowng
> news:dhvjp0phep98jtclf...@4ax.com...
> >
> >
> > The video of a US Marine shooting an unarmed and wounded
> > Iraqi prisoner in a mosque has spread around the Middle East.
> > It has already stirred up even more anti-US sentiment.
> >
> http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/CA613824-B948-4CF8-B17E-B9E55674A925.htm
> >
>
> The terrorists that the Marines and Army are fighting do not honor the
> Geneva and Hague conventions.
The Marines and Army aren't fighting terrorists. That are fighting
Iraqi nationalists and a very few jihadists.
> They murder innocent people,
We are killing lots more innocent people than anyone else in Iraq.
> the behead
> captives, and they torture women.
We torture and rape women, as proven at Abu Ghraib.
> They have committed many "Crimes Against
> Humanity" under international law.
Since when did we start caring about international law?
We've already broken it countless times in the last few years.
> And as they do not obey the "laws of
> war," they cannot claim protection under them.
We don't obey the laws of war.
[...]
pyjamarama
> To humiliate the senators of Rome, Caligula appointed his horse to the
> senate. To humiliate the world, Bush appointed Rice.
If you racist democrats don't like her as Sec. of State, you're really
gonna hate her as president in 2008...
It's comin', demokkkrats, it's comin'.
Don 'Dildo Brain' Richter
>>hocus...@pukehell.nyet
>>(Don 'Dildo Brain' Richter a.k.a. "Roncy")
>>typically puked pinko:
>< i am the dumbest of the dummycrats.
>i am like a constipated parrot.
>i am full of bird turd and d.n.c. talking points
>and nothing else.
>shoot me!
>i'm a cripple!
>i can't even beat off without my mommy helping! >
Supreme sadness for yet another Douchebagcrat loser.
John Tibbs
"FrankA" <franka...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:a73656d.04111...@posting.google.com...
> Refute the FACTS in the origional post fuckface, or shut the fuck up!!!
OOOOoooooh! More Tourette's syndrome from the left!
jt
John Tibbs
"Johnny Asia" <pope_about_town at Xyahoo.com > wrote in message
> . Hanoi would be proud of you!
> >jt
>
>
> Imagine more than 1,000 9/11's.
>
>
> That's what we did to Vietnam, all for oil.
>
> And yet, they forgave us.
And the liberal democrats cannot!
jt
Spartakus
Has nothing to do with her *race*, BW - YOU are the one playing the
race card here.
And since C. Rice lied to the 9/11 commission, noting that Bush
appointed a known perjurer to Secretary of State isn't racism either.
ronin
Bush is making a figure skater your Secretary of State.
Johnny Asia
> wasn't YOURS, you God damned traitor.
>
You are a stupid, bloodthirsty, brainwashed moron and an oaf.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traitor
In the United States, the accusation of treason has at times been
levelled at those who dissented against the government's foreign
policy, especially during military actions. However, actual
prosecutions have been very rare, and even very well known spies have
generally been convicted of espionage rather than treason.
In the history of the United States there have been fewer than 40
federal prosecutions for treason and even fewer convictions. Several
men were convicted of treason in connection with the 1794 Whiskey
Rebellion but were pardoned by George Washington. The most famous
treason trial, that of Aaron Burr in 1807, resulted in acquittal.
Politically motivated attempts to convict opponents of the
Jeffersonian Embargo Acts and the Fugitive Slave Law of 1850 all
failed. Significantly, after the American Civil War, no person
involved with the Confederate States of America was charged with
treason, and only one major Confederate official, the commandant of
the Andersonville prison who was charged with war crimes, was charged
with anything at all.
In the 20th century, treason has become largely a wartime phenomenon,
and the treason cases of World Wars One and Two were of minor
significance. Most states have provisions in their constitutions or
statutes similar to those in the U.S. Constitution. There have been
only two successful prosecutions for treason on the state level, that
of Thomas Dorr in Rhode Island and that of John Brown in Virginia.
List of alleged traitors
United States
Anthony Cramer
Benedict Arnold
Iva Toguri D'Aquino (aka Tokyo Rose)
Thomas Dorr
Max Haupt
Tomoya Kawakita
Ethel and Julius Rosenberg
Philip Hansen
Fritz Kuhn
John Walker Lindh
The Saint Patrick's Battalion - Irish-Americans who fought for Mexico
in the Mexican-American War.
The Real Diddy Pop
Something Clinton NEVER did. Not one black ever held a real position
of power in DC when Billy-boy was Prez. Yet he's considered the first
black Prez just because he likes black tail.
Clough
> GO DEVIL DOGS! GET SOME!!
> KILL THE ENEMIES OF THE UNITED STATES WHEN YOU FIND THEM!
You just don't get it.
Most of the world hates you Amerikuntz.
You're not wanted, so crawl back to where you came from.
Clough