Yes, Adolf Hitler was a Christian
Anthrax Mailer
It's ironic that eventually *every* Christian is religated to "not
true Christian" by fellow Christians, all that it takes is time.
Adult Hitler was undeniably a Christian, and he enjoyed the popular
support of the overwhelming majority of Christianity, even when
Europe and eventually the United States was working to kill him and
stop his fascism.
And of course Christianity aided Hitler's fellow Christians' escape
to third world shitholes to avoid being tried and executed for their
crimes against humanity.
Denial is silly -- and stupid given the historic evidence.
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Not Sure
> http://www.nobeliefs.com/nazis.htm
>
> It's ironic that eventually *every* Christian is religated to "not
> true Christian" by fellow Christians, all that it takes is time.
>
> Adult Hitler was undeniably a Christian,
No he wasn't. Better luck lying next time :)
lab~rat >:-)
puked:
>http://www.nobeliefs.com/nazis.htm
>
>It's ironic that eventually *every* Christian is religated to "not
>true Christian" by fellow Christians, all that it takes is time.
As a former xtian, let me say that I have yet to meet a true xtian.
Using the word of god to condemn others and judge them is not what
Christianity is about. Unfortunately it's what most of them use it
for.
I'm not saying there is more hate coming from the xtians than other
groups, but pretty much the same amount.
--
lab~rat >:-)
Do you want polite or do you want sincere?
Anthrax Mailer
>On Jun 2, 11:09=A0am, cdci...@cdc.gov (Anthrax Mailer) wrote:
>> http://www.nobeliefs.com/nazis.htm
>>
>> It's ironic that eventually *every* Christian is religated to "not
>> true Christian" by fellow Christians, all that it takes is time.
>>
>> Adult Hitler was undeniably a Christian,
>No he wasn't. Better luck lying next time :)
"My feeling as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior
as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness,
surrounded only by a few followers, recognized these Jews for
what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who,
God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter.
"In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read
through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in
His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the
brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was his fight against
the Jewish poison.
"Today, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I
recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was
for this that He had to shed his blood upon the Cross.
"As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be
cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and
justice...
"And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we
are acting rightly, it is the distress that daily grows. For as
a Christian I have also a duty to my own people. And when I look
on my people I see them work and work and toil and labor, and at
the end of the week they have only for their wages wretchedness
and misery.
"When I go out in the morning and see these men standing in
their queues and look into their pinched faces, then I believe I
would be no Christian, but a very devil, if I felt no pity for
them, if I did not, as did our Lord two thousand years ago, turn
against those by whom today this poor people are plundered and
exploited."
Adolph Hitler, in a speech delivered April 12, 1922
You were saying?
Anthrax Mailer
>On Wed, 2 Jun 2010 11:20:09 -0700 (PDT), Not Sure
><fred1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Adult Hitler was undeniably a Christian,
>>No he wasn't. Better luck lying next time :)
>power, his conduct and justification for war, and his theories of
>social policies of Germany.
Just like Bush and his fellow Christanic terrorists did -- and for
all of the same reasons Adolf did.
Most of the mainstream denominations in Germany expressed support
for Hitler and for his regime at some time or other.
The Catholic Bishops conference in 1933 "expressed joy that through
the new state Christianity had been promoted, morality improved, and
and the struggle against Bolshevism and godlessness condicted with
energy and success"
In the same year, 1933 "The Catholic Students Union hails the
National Socialist revolution as the greatest spiritual breakthrough
of our time".
In 1934, responding to an enquiry from the Ministry for Church
affairs, the Catholic Seamen's Mission listed the books and papers
they provided to seamen. The list included Hitler's own anti-
semitic Mein Kampf, and the newspaper Volkischer Beobachter.
In 1936, the Bishops of Hannover, Wurtemburg and Bavaria signed
a statement that said in part "We, together with the Reich Church
Committee, stand behind the Fuhrer in the life-struggle of the
German people against Bolshevism. In this struggle, the Church
mobilizes the forces of christian belief against unbelief."
In 1939, The Bishop of Hannover, Marahans, was one of the signers
of a statement that explained the need for the foundation of an
institute to "dejudaize" the Church. "The foundation of this
institute is based on the conviction that Jewish influence in
all areas of German life, including therefore that of the Church
and religon, must be brought to light and eliminated."
At the outbreak of war, the Protestant bishops signed a statement
which read in part "So at this hour too we join with our nation
in intercession for the Fuhrer and the Reich...."
In November 1941, the Vicar General of the Diocese of Rottenburg
wrote "The fact that so many believing soldiers are among the
lists of the fallen justifies the conclusion that it is above all
those soldiers with true Christian belief who have helped to win
the great victories."
It is also true that many individual Christians and Priests
resisted Hitler. However, the Churches themselves gave their
followers a highly ambiguous and collaborationist message.
Anthrax Mailer
>>to third world shitholes to avoid being tried and executed for their
>>crimes against humanity.
http://www.nobeliefs.com/nazis.htm
>Most didn't have to escape anywhere.
>True, the top hierarchy was in jeopardy---but most were hired
>immediately by the Allies to "run" Germany after their surrender.
>The same ardent Nazi's immediately became administrators, mayors, and
>most certainly ardent anti-communists.
Which adds to the irony. Israli Nazi hunters also went along with
the United States and Russia in protecting "useful" war criminals.
Anyolmouse
"Anthrax Mailer" <cdc...@cdc.gov> wrote in message
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A rebuttle: http://www.trueorigin.org/hitler01.asp Because a person
goes to church does not necessarily make them a Christian. Do you think
all of the Roman Catholics that have molested little boys are
Christians? Their actions say otherwise.
--
We have met the enemy and he is us-- Pogo
Anyolmouse
Killing, Inc.
Strange actions for a supposed Christian. Hitler used the prophesies
of a soothsayer, Nostradamus, to convince people his reign was part of
destiny. He also use the works of Nietzsche, who renounced God and put
all his faith in the power of man, to advance his power. Rather than
the Church freely choosing to join Hitler, he used the force of
fascism's presence all around the Vatican to secure its endorsement.
No, Hitler wasn't a Christian, but he was a charlatan who would use
any means necessary to gain influence over the people he meant to
rule, just like left-wingers do.
Incidentally, one of those "third world shitholes" where Nazis went to
escape prosecution was Argentina, run by the fascist Perons, who the
left-wing has adored and romanticized for decades.
Democrats and other extremist, regressive, corporatist left-wing
fascists are still the dumbest creatures on the planet.
Lamont Cranston
> On Jun 2, 11:09 am, cdci...@cdc.gov (Anthrax Mailer) wrote:
>> http://www.nobeliefs.com/nazis.htm
>>
>> It's ironic that eventually *every* Christian is religated to "not
>> true Christian" by fellow Christians, all that it takes is time.
>>
>> Adult Hitler was undeniably a Christian,
>
> No he wasn't. Better luck lying next time :)
Yes, moron, he was. Why are conservatives so fucking stupid?
http://www.nobeliefs.com/speeches.htm
My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter.
It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded only by a few
followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to
fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer
but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read
through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His
might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of
vipers and adders. How terrific was His fight for the world against the
Jewish poison. To-day, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I
recognize more profoundly than ever before in the fact that it was for
this that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have
no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a
fighter for truth and justice.... And if there is anything which could
demonstrate that we are acting rightly it is the distress that daily
grows. For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people.... When I
go out in the morning and see these men standing in their queues and
look into their pinched faces, then I believe I would be no Christian,
but a very devil if I felt no pity for them, if I did not, as did our
Lord two thousand years ago, turn against those by whom to-day this poor
people is plundered and exploited.
-Adolf Hitler, in his speech in Munich on 12 April 1922
[Note, "brood of vi
Tom S.
Pol Pot, Hitler, Mussolini, et al, were not true socialists and they'll
do it better with far less mayhem.
Tom S.
> On Wed, 02 Jun 2010 15:12:36 -0400, "lab~rat>:-)"<ch...@cheeze.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>> As a former xtian, let me say that I have yet to meet a true xtian.
>> Using the word of god to condemn others and judge them is not what
>> Christianity is about. Unfortunately it's what most of them use it
>> for
>>
>
>
Been around the block much?
Hey, we can all engage in non-sequiturs like that: All blacks are gang
bangers, all Mexicans have switchblades in their pockets, and all of
their wim'min are trashy ho's.
When you attribute characteristics like that, the sky is the limit.
But the left is SOOOO enlightened! NOT!
Tom S.
> On Wed, 2 Jun 2010 14:05:14 -0700 (PDT), "Killing, Inc."
> <i.am.kil...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>> No, Hitler wasn't a Christian, but he was a charlatan who would use
>> any means necessary to gain influence over the people he meant to
>> rule, just like left-wingers do.
>>
> punishing us for...(Insert disaster here) because we are easy on Gay?
>
> But I thought the Religious conservatives were all "rightwing"
>
> AMAZING! !
>
Amazing grasp of abstractions you have there.
So are all Democrats seeking the obliteration of humanity: Who supports
this ideology?
The right to have children should be a marketable commodity, bought and
traded by individuals but absolutely limited by the state.
�Kenneth Boulding, originator of the �Spaceship Earth� concept (as
quoted by William Tucker in Progress and Privilege, 1982)
We have wished, we ecofreaks, for a disaster or for a social change to
come and bomb us into Stone Age, where we might live like Indians in our
valley, with our localism, our appropriate technology, our gardens, our
homemade religion�guilt-free at last!
�Stewart Brand (writing in the Whole Earth Catalogue).
Free Enterprise really means rich people get richer. They have the
freedom to exploit and psychologically rape their fellow human beings in
the process�. Capitalism is destroying the earth.
�Helen Caldicott, Union of Concerned Scientists (Evidently Helen
conveniently missed all those pictures and data from the old Soviet
Block, especially Smolensk in Russia.
ALSO
"Anti-individualistic, the Fascist conception of life stresses the
importance of the State and accepts the individual only in so far as his
interests coincide with those of the State, which stands for the
conscience and the universal, will of man as a historic entity.
It is opposed to classical liberalism which arose as a reaction to
absolutism and exhausted its historical function when the State became
the expression of the conscience and will of the people. Liberalism
denied the State in the name of the individual; Fascism reasserts
The rights of the State as expressing the real essence of the
individual. And if liberty is to he the attribute of living men and not
of abstract dummies invented by individualistic liberalism, then Fascism
stands for liberty, and for the only liberty worth having, the liberty
of the State and of the individual within the State. The Fascist
conception of the State is all embracing; outside of it no human or
spiritual values can exist, much less have value. Thus understood,
Fascism, is totalitarian, and the Fascist State - a synthesis and a unit
inclusive of all values - interprets, develops, and potentates the whole
life of a people. " -- Benito Mussolini, 1922
ALSO
"Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become
dominant. The Koran, the Muslim book of scripture, should be the highest
authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on Earth."
-- Omar Ahmad, Chairman Emeritus, Council on American-Islamic Relations
(CAIR).
Guess which has been sucking CAIR's dick?
Whatever - the conservatives undoubtedly have some lamebrains, but not
the murderous, sick, psychotic types prevalent on the left.
Tom S.
(BTW: I'm an atheist)
Tom S.
> On Wed, 02 Jun 2010 17:17:44 -0700, "Tom S."<tms...@cox.com> wrote:
>
>
>> Whatever - the conservatives undoubtedly have some lamebrains, but not
>> the murderous, sick, psychotic types prevalent on the left.
>>
> totalitarians are extreme conservatives.
>
Other than in "name", their ideology was totally different.
Read The Nazi Party plans, read Mussolini, Stalin...
> I assume you're not labeling by economic systems they use---but by
> political ideology.
>
Either. "Conservatives" are free market, private ownership/control -
totally different.
> Gandhi was representative of "left", if I recall
>
He was a pacifist and a virulent anti-semite. Yeah, look what prosperity
he brought.
Tom S.
>
The left has a whole lot more in sync with both politcal and economic
ideology.
> Are you suggesting that Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Castro, Pol Pot, Hitler,
> and mussolini were "liberals"?
>
Get past self-picked names and try it again. In the late 1800's, the
authoritarian/reactionaries changed their "name" to "Progressive. The,
in the 1920 when Progressivism fell into disfavor, the called themselves
"liberals". A true liberal today is what is called a "Classical
Liberal", in the early 1800's sense (the Founders who revolted against
the conservatives in England who wished to maintain the Crown loyalties.
> Or are you confused by the different concepts?
>
No, I know the vocabulary. You, on the other hand, seem confused by
popular academic myths.
Tom S.
On 6/2/2010 8:51 PM, Free...@peach.net wrote:
> On Wed, 02 Jun 2010 17:07:12 -0700, "Tom S."<tms...@cox.com> wrote:
>
>
>>>> As a former xtian, let me say that I have yet to meet a true xtian.
>>>> Using the word of god to condemn others and judge them is not what
>>>> Christianity is about. Unfortunately it's what most of them use it
>>>> for
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Your republicans sure do.
>>>
>>>
>> Been around the block much?
>>
> greed, and bad human excesses, then "republican" is correct---because
> it represents conservative and/or loonytarian sleaze
>
What is a reactionary? http://abcdunlimited.com/ideas/reactionary.html
You might want to learn a little bit about the real stuff and not just
barf back what they shoved up your ass in school.
Tom S.
> On Wed, 02 Jun 2010 17:19:58 -0700, "Tom S."<tms...@cox.com> wrote:
>
>
>> A rebuttle: http://www.trueorigin.org/hitler01.asp Because a person
>> goes to church does not necessarily make them a Christian. Do you think
>> all of the Roman Catholics that have molested little boys are
>> Christians? Their actions say otherwise.
>>
>
>
>> Indeed, ones actions are the key, and while not appealing to perfection,
>> none of their actions have any basis in Christianity.
>>
>>
>> (BTW: I'm an atheist)
>>
> outcome?
>
>
The only thing I'm sure of anymore (regarding this conversation) is that
you're full of shit and a blowhard punk who is sucking his teachers dick
(Yes, we're well familiar with the bilge they teach in schools).
<PLONK>
RM v2.0
>
> From inception of this nation, to the fight to maintain unity, stop
> slavery, stop child labor, allow womens rights, childrens rights,
> workers rights, civil liberties(huge expansion under liberals), Civil
> Rights, voters rights, rights of the elderly and infirm....were all
> LIBERAL or PROGRESSIVE goals and eventually policy and law.
>
> ALL of which were opposed and fought against by CONSERVATIVES
>
> Glad to help in your continuing education.
Democrats were the ones opposing Civil Rights, Mr Education.
Joe Irvin
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> On Wed, 02 Jun 2010 17:07:12 -0700, "Tom S." <tms...@cox.com> wrote:
>
>>>> As a former xtian, let me say that I have yet to meet a true xtian.
>>>> Using the word of god to condemn others and judge them is not what
>>>> Christianity is about. Unfortunately it's what most of them use it
>>>> for
>>>>
>>>
>>> Your republicans sure do.
>>>
>>Been around the block much?
>
> greed, and bad human excesses, then "republican" is correct---because
> it represents conservative and/or loonytarian sleaze
>
>>bangers, all Mexicans have switchblades in their pockets, and all of
>>their wim'min are trashy ho's.
>
> used to stir up racist feelings in their (your) base support.
>
>>When you attribute characteristics like that, the sky is the limit.
>>
>>But the left is SOOOO enlightened! NOT!
>
>
> From inception of this nation, to the fight to maintain unity, stop
> slavery, stop child labor, allow womens rights, childrens rights,
> workers rights, civil liberties(huge expansion under liberals), Civil
> Rights, voters rights, rights of the elderly and infirm....were all
> LIBERAL or PROGRESSIVE goals and eventually policy and law.
>
> ALL of which were opposed and fought against by CONSERVATIVES
You might want to look up Woodrow Wilson record on blacks ... he was a
PROGRESSIVE and a racist.
Anthrax Mailer
>"Anthrax Mailer" <cdc...@cdc.gov> wrote in message
>news:0LCdnUEaNMTKA5vR...@posted.sonicnet...
>> http://www.nobeliefs.com/nazis.htm
>> It's ironic that eventually *every* Christian is religated to "not
>> true Christian" by fellow Christians, all that it takes is time.
>> Adult Hitler was undeniably a Christian, and he enjoyed the popular
>> support of the overwhelming majority of Christianity, even when
>> Europe and eventually the United States was working to kill him and
>> stop his fascism.
>> And of course Christianity aided Hitler's fellow Christians' escape
>> to third world shitholes to avoid being tried and executed for their
>> crimes against humanity.
>> Denial is silly -- and stupid given the historic evidence.
>A rebuttle: http://www.trueorigin.org/hitler01.asp Because a person
>goes to church does not necessarily make them a Christian.
Denial is stupid. Hitler was obviously a Christianic death cultist and
he enjoyed the overwhelming support of Christianity:
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Anthrax Mailer
>Indeed, ones actions are the key, and while not appealing to perfection,
>none of their actions have any basis in Christianity.
Hitler's actions were entirely in keeping with Christianity's core
ideologies. Look at contemporary Christianity. It's a horiffic death
cult predicated upon hate and bigotry, denial of human rights, the
cult's core ideals, ideologies, and history are exactly what Hitler did.
Anthrax Mailer
>Strange actions for a supposed Christian.
Not at all. What Hitler did was 100% in lock step with Christianity.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children%27s_Crusade
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom%C3%A1s_de_Torquemada
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedophile_priest
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Witch_burnings
Christianity has been and continues to be the single worse death
cult ever created by humanity. What Hitler did was 100% in accord
with what Christianity was created for, what Christianity's
history has been, and what Christianity stands for today.
Anthrax Mailer
>On 6/2/2010 11:20 AM, Not Sure wrote:
>> On Jun 2, 11:09 am, cdci...@cdc.gov (Anthrax Mailer) wrote:
>>> http://www.nobeliefs.com/nazis.htm
>>> It's ironic that eventually *every* Christian is religated to "not
>>> true Christian" by fellow Christians, all that it takes is time.
>>> Adult Hitler was undeniably a Christian,
>> No he wasn't. Better luck lying next time :)
>Yes, moron, he was. Why are conservatives so fucking stupid?
>http://www.nobeliefs.com/speeches.htm
They're stupid because they're *willfully* stupid. The next generation
of rightards will demand that George W. Bush was not a Christian, and
tyhey'll point at his crimes against humanity as "proof" that he was
not a Christianic.