by Arizona Wilder
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Arizona Wilder conducted human sacrifice rituals for the
Illuminati elite for decades. These included the British Royal
Family, George Bush, Henry Kissinger, and a stream of world
famous names revealed in "The Biggest Secret" and the video,
"Revelations of a Mother Goddess", available through this website
(http://www.davidicke.com).
Since she escaped from her mind controlled confinement, she has
dedicated herself to exposing what is happening. I received
this letter from her dated May 25th 1999 in which she details
the key points in the Illuminati ritual programme running up to
the Millennium.
I should emphasize a few things for those who have not read "The
Biggest Secret." The Illuminati, the clique which control the
direction of the world, are genetic hybrids, the result of
interbreeding between a reptilian extraterrestrial race and
humanity many thousands of years ago. The centre of power is
not even in this dimension -- it is in the lower fourth
dimension, the lower astral as many people call it, the
traditional home for the "demons" of folklore and myth. These
fourth dimensional reptilian entities work through these hybrid
bloodlines because they have a vibrational compatibility with
each other. This is why the European royal and aristocratic
families have interbred so obsessively, as do the so called
Eastern Establishment families of the United States which
produce the leaders of America. Every presidential election
since and including George Washington in 1789 has been won by
the candidate with the most European royal genes. Of the 42
presidents to Bill Clinton, 33 have been genetically related to
two people, Alfred the Great, King of England, and Charlemagne,
the most famous monarch of what we now call France. It is the
same wherever you look in the positions of power..they are the
same tribe!
As well as an obsession with interbreeding with each other to
preserve their genetic structure, the Illuminati are also
obsessed with symbolism and ritual. Interestingly, conventional
science has documented that the reptilian part of the human
brain (the R complex as they call it) is the source of the
following behavior traits: An obsession with ritual, cold
blooded behavior, territorialism "this belongs to me", and an
obsession with top down hierarchical structures. This sums up
the Illuminati mentality perfectly and it goes that if you have
more of that R complex, or that it is activated more than normal,
you will manifest these traits far more profoundly.
But their ritual is not just for ceremonial purposes or
gratuitous horror. The rituals are designed to rewire the
energy fields and grids of the planet and therefore to
fundamentally affect human consciousness. The rituals these
bloodlines performed in the ancient world are the same as they
do now. See The Biggest Secret for the background. They have a
detailed annual calendar of events on which they perform their
sacrifice rituals in line with key lunar, solar, and planetary
cycles to harness that energy for their sick agenda to take
complete control of Planet Earth in the very near future.
With that background, here is the full text of the communication
from Arizona Wilder. I will add my comments in italics where
more background may be needed for those new to these subjects.
-David Icke
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David - This information needs to go out to everyone as fast as
possible.
The Illuminati are conducting a ritual to be held at the Great
Pyramid at Giza in Egypt, on August 11, 12, and 13th, 1999.
(Specifically the Mothers of Darkness-the top conductors of
rituals, will officiate). This ritual is "The Rite to Open the
Passage" (the Eye of Horus). This will open the passage for
lower fourth dimensional energy to be directed into the leylines
of the Earth. This will (is designed to) also close the 3rd eye
(consciousness) of all on this planet that oppose the Illuminati.
It will further shut down (is designed to) the other people
who are not actively aware or opposing the Illuminati but feel
uneasy about what is going on and cannot figure out why.
The solar eclipse which is to take place on August 11 (over the
key Earth power centre of Cornwall, England) will also have a
"Grand Square" which makes it extremely powerful. This eclipse
is the beginning of a six month period in which there will be
much activity of significance that pinnacles in The Rite of
Establishment of the Age of Horus (Osiris reborn) at the
Millennium.
This symbolism relates to the ancient Egyptian legends of Osiris
(the father), Horus (the son, and Isis (the virgin mother),
which later became the basis for the Jesus stories also. The
New World Order, the takeover of the planet via the establishment
of a world government, world army (NATO), world central bank and
currency, and a micro-chipped population, is known by the Illuminati
as "The Age of Horus". The symbolism of the murder of a pregnant
Diana, Princess of Wales, with the Egyptian Dodi Fayed, relates to
the arrival of "The Age of Horus". (See "The Biggest Secret").
This "Age of Horus" ritual will be held on December 31st from
12am to 3am at the Great Pyramid, at which time the top of the
pyramid will be capped with gold and crystal. (George Bush has
long been on the guest list of the Millennium "Celebrations" at
Giza). Etched in the crystal will be the Eye of Horus on all
four sides. (This relates to the All Seeing Eye symbol on the
dollar bill and the reverse of the Great Seal of the United
States). They will finalize this period of six months on
January 31st / February 1st and start "preparing the ground for
the sowing of their seeds.
Preceding the August 11 through 13 ritual, which by the way ends
with the da y of Hecate (one of their key deities), the bringer
of chaos and death, is the July 28th lunar eclipse. This
eclipse is also extremely unusual and powerful in that it also
involves a Grand Square and the House of Aquarius goes direct -
its effect is at full strength. The Moon on this date is a New
Moon - a time to plan and cast spells for the plan.
During the solar eclipse, the next day and on the Day of Hecate
(August 13th), there will be blood sacrifices and also literal
sodomization of the intended sacrifices beforehand. This will
signify opening the Eye of Horus, opening the passage for the
lower fourth dimensional energy and the closing, the shutting
down of the human 3rd eye - consciousness on the planet. They
will remove the heart and consume it, signifying the taking away
the vibrational chakra of love. They will also remove the liver
(strength), the eyes (sight), and brain (knowledge, thought,
action). They will consume the blood (life force for them).
Their ritual acts all encompass and empower them for what they
wish to spiritually do to us. What they do is to be given
strength which is brought into actual physical being by the
solar eclipse, the lunar eclipse, and the grand squares of their
ruling planets with those particular energies accompanying the
grand squares. The effect on the Earth if they succeed will be
terrible.
Very much a part of this is the planned marriage of Sophie and
Prince Edward of the House of Windsor at Windsor Castle on July
19th, 1999. Look at the date and year. The 19th is the number
of the Sun. 1 is the beginning (alpha), 9 is the end (omega).
The name Sophia = wisdom, which is Baphomet by the (code known
as) the Atbash Cipher. Prince Edward has disgraced the House of
Windsor. The planet Mercury goes into retrograde on July 13th,
which is also a New Moon - a time of planning and spells cast.
Getting married in this time period bodes ill for this marriage.
They may meet with an unfortunate circumstance, resulting in
their death or ritual death. Mercury is considered "the
messenger" and does become stationary and fixed in full power
at 29 degrees Cancer from August 3rd through the 8th. Also,
because it involves the 4th House in astrological law, it
affects families in a negative way. The Windsors know this
already in the planning and the timing of the marriage. Yes,
their marriage on this date is tied right into the ritual and
meaning of the August 11th-13th solar eclipse and the day of
Hecate.
The marriage of Princess Diana to Charles, also in July, was
timed and located in the same way as part of Windsor-Illuminati
ritual. St. Paul's Cathedral, where the marriage took place,
is built on an ancient site of Goddess Diana worship at Ludgate
Hill in the heart of the City of London-the Illuminati's
epicentre at operational level. Diana also died in Paris on an
ancient site of ritual sacrifice to the Goddess Diana, now known
as the Pont d'Alma tunnel.
It is also worth noting how much Sophie, Prince Edward's bride,
is a Diana look-alike and only in march 1999, one of the most
famous television presenters in Britain, Jill Dando, a lady I
knew at the BBC, was shot dead near her home in London by,
according to reports, a "professional hitman'. Jill Dando is
another Sophie look-alike with blond hair, and Jill Dando was a
friend of Sophie. The Illuminati obsession with ritual leaves
me in no doubt that Dando's death was connected to the sequence
detailed here by Arizona Wilder.
The Illuminati began to prepare for all this on May 1st, 1999,
Beltane. The energy they put forth in readiness for the August
eclipse increases with the May 30th Full Moon; the June 13th New
Moon; the June 21st Summer Solstice; June 28th Full Moon; July 13
th new Moon; July 19th marriage/ritual of Sophie/Sophia and
prince Edward; July 28th New Moon/Eclipse wit grand junction;
August 1st Lughnasad ritual; August 5th height of Mercury
stationary in Cancer. All this is to open the way for the dates
of the solar eclipse/Day of Hecate, August 11, 12 and 13th.
In the Illuminati/Satanic method of "mirror or reverse"
symbolism, the Day of Hecate, August 13th, is mirrored to August
31st for her day of sacrifice. Diana, Princess of Wales, died
on that ancient site of Goddess Diana worship on August 31st -
the day of sacrifice to Hecate.
::: WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS HAVE OUR OWN CONVERGENCE :::
During this eclipse we need to focus on bringing down higher
vibrational energies and canceling out their fourth dimensional
energy. Those of the Illuminati who are not at the Great
Pyramid will be positioned at precise longitudes and latitudes
along the ley lines to perform rituals of the same kind at
specified sites in which phallic/womb symbols have been built.
19 degrees latitude is where important sites will be, also 28
degrees latitude.
-Arizona Wilder
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So let's do it!
If all this makes sense to you, can you organize all like
thinkers you know to arrange their own events on these dates?
Particularly the solar eclipse to the Day of Hecate. To bring
in higher dimensional energy to defuse this Illuminati agenda!
All you have to do is go to a place you feel drawn to at that
time and open your heart and mind to the energy we call love.
Particularly love for the lower fourth dimensional entities
because this will dilute their energy even more. We don't need
mumbo jumbo, just people with open hearts and minds focussed on
the intent to be vehicles to ground love in this three-
dimensional world.
If you have entered this website to read just about the names,
dates, people, conspiracy and are not aware of the esoteric
level of the manipulation, you may choose to ignore this or
dismiss it as New Age nonsense. This, I would suggest, is
precisely what the manipulators want you to do because they then
have a clear playing field.
And ask yourself. What harm could it do to connect with the
energy of love for three days or even a few minutes at the time
of the solar eclipse. One thing's for sure, you won't have the
chance to go back and do it afterwards when you realise that all
this, bizarre as it may seem to you now, is actually the way the
world is controlled and the human race maintained in its mental
and emotional prison.
Please contact us on the "bridg...@aol.com" e-mail to tell
us if you are doing this. Could you also transmit this e-mail
to everyone you know who might act upon its contents.
Thank you.
David Icke
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::: REVISED GRAND CROSS SUPPLEMENT (8/4/99) :::
This revised Supplement about the Grand Cross alignments of
August 11 - 17 is designed to summarize what we know and can
surmise about the Grand Crosses as of this writing, six days
before the first Grand Cross forms.
This Supplement consists of four sections:
1.) Introduction
2.) Mythic Resonance
3.) Suggested Reading
4.) Cosmic Birth: August 11, 1999 to May 5, 2000
Those who have already seen the earlier version of this piece
may wish to skip to the new material in Cosmic Birth, or go to
Suggested Reading for an updated list of recent Internet, e-mail
and print articles on the Grand Cross. The Astrology material
from the original Supplement is available on request.
1.) Introduction
The astral patterns that are in effect during the week of 8/11
to 8/17 are called Grand Cross alignments because all but one
the planets (Pluto, in Sagittarius) will be in cross
configurations, or otherwise located in the four "fixed" signs
of the zodiac: Taurus, the Bull; Leo, the Lion; Scorpio, the
Scorpion, also symbolized by the Eagle; and Aquarius the Water
Bearer, also the Water Angel.
The first Grand Cross forms on 8/11 during, but not necessarily
in precise alignment with, the Solar Eclipse that occurs on that
day. This Eclipse passes over Eurasia, and can therefore be
seen by almost four billion people. The Eclipse could be the
most widely watched celestial event in history.
While eclipses are not rare (several happen every year, though
few have the visibility of next week's) and grand crosses are
not that unusual either (some people have them in their birth
charts), what is extremely unusual is that the eclipse occurs as
all but one of the planets in the solar system is either in the
Grand Cross or close to it in the fixed signs of the wheel.
This represents a very dense concentration of planetary energy
within a sacred geometric design of great significance and power.
Add to this powerful synchronicity the fact that the Eclipse and
First Grand Cross form just as the Perseid meteor shower (easily
visible at the New Moon) is about to peak -- and that a "Moon
Wobble" occurring at the same time makes the emotional impact of
these events even greater -- and we have very likely the most
intense cluster of celestial events that any of us will
experience in this lifetime, or at least until the year 2012.
The first Grand Cross is the more concentrated of the two, as
five planets and both Moon's Nodes form the Cross itself, while
three other planets are also in fixed signs.
The second Grand Cross occurs on 8/17. It consists of four
planets, one at each arm of the Cross, while four other planets
and both Moon's Nodes are also in fixed signs. It is even
possible to call the 8/17 alignment is a "Double Grand Cross",
though this will be a matter of opinion.
While this second Grand Cross may be slightly less spectacular
than the first, it is a notable time marker because it occurs
twelve years to the day after the Harmonic Convergence of 1987,
and 269 days (an exact human gestation period) before the Star
of Jerusalem alignment of 5/5/2000. In this sense we can think
of the Grand Cross of 8/11 as the moment of conception; and 5/5/2
000, the "Star of Jerusalem", nine months later, as the moment
of birth. The midpoint of the gestation period is 12/22/99 -the
winter solstice, which will be far more dynamic this year than
it usually is.
One way to imagine the Year to Come is that what is being hailed
and feared as the Millennium, on Jan. 1, 2000, will be more
like an intermission cartoon between the two feature films, in
August '99 and May 2000, that are the main movies, the show
we're supposed to see. More on this below in Cosmic Birth.
2.) Mythic Resonance
It is rare enough for the planets to form a Grand Cross having
slow-moving planets such as Saturn, Uranus and Neptune -- but
for two Grand Crosses of almost completely different planets
(having only the Moon in common) to form within only six days,
and with all but one of the other planets in the same signs as
the Cross, is extremely unusual and portentous. The importance
of this week in August cannot be overestimated.
The attention of the world is being drawn in August to the icon
of the cross, and all that it has represented as a spiritual
symbol that is far older and more widespread than the particular
religion with which it is most associated. The Cross, in its
most basic and universal meaning, is a horizonal line
representing matter penetrated by a vertical line representing
spirit. The two lines are the most fundamental expression of
duality. The nexus point is humanity, third density and other
embodiments of the juncture and tension of matter and spirit.
The occurrence of the Grand Cross in the fixed signs suggests a
moment of spiritual repositioning and preparing for an upward
move. The four fixed signs have long been considered best for
navigation and ceremonies of marking time and space because
their relationship in the sky is consistently easiest to see.
Aldebaran in Taurus is a bright red first magnitude star that is
near the Pleiades and Orion, and is almost exactly across the
wheel from another bright red star, Antares, the heart of
Scorpio. The brilliant blue giant Regulus, the heart of Leo,
and the Lion's whole body, are easy to make out. Aquarius has
no first-magnitude stars, but is still easy to find.
As these four constellations were among the first ones to emerge
from the sky and take form and meaning in human consciousness,
and were almost certainly the first set of four sky pictures
that were understood to be interrelated at angles of 90°, the
Bull, the Lion, the Scorpion or Eagle and the Water Bearer have
been associated in our collective memories with new knowledge
and the evolution into higher awareness since before we had
language, or could make anything taller than a tree to see stars
from.
In the West, the best-known associations of the fixed signs are
with the four beasts of Ezekiel, the four Christian gospel
writers, and the four symbols at the corners of the Wheel of
Fortune card in the Tarot. Another is with Osiris, Set, Horus
and Isis. Alchemically, the progression Bull - Lion Eagle
(sublimated as Scorpion) and Water Angel symbolizes the soul's
evolution from brute force to intelligent force to spiritual
force to life force.
Finally, the week of the two Grand Crosses coincides with major
holy days and festivals from the ancient Egyptian, Greco-Roman,
Christian, Buddhist, Aztec, Celtic and Norse mythic traditions.
See Universal Festival Calendar for August, 1999.
3). Suggested Reading
The pioneer in research on the Grand Cross and Star of Jerusalem
alignments is Ken Kalb, who brought the relationship among the
Grand Crosses, the Millennium and the Star of Jerusalem to the
attention of legendary astrologer Dane Rudhyar some 25 years ago.
See the book LightShift 2000, and his web page:
http://www.lightshift.com
The Quantum Newsletter for June has a brief article about the
Grand Cross in relation to immense energy pulsations originating
from the galactic core. See qua...@magicnet.net.
An article entiled "Day of Destiny" was published a little more
than a month ago, viewing 8/13 in relation to solar flares, the
movement of Venus and the Aztec Day of Destiny. See
http://dayofdestiny.com/Moreabout8-13-99.html
Barbara Wolf of Global Meditations, http://www.globalmeditations.com
has circulated a message sent by Isaac George in his May-June
1999 Spiritlife Newsletter, with material channeled from Archangel
Ariel. Isaac George's e-mail: arch...@hotmail.com
Leigh Tremaine (LTre...@freenet.co.uk) and colleagues have
scheduled the fourth World Healing Day for 8/11. See e-mail:
WE...@freenet.co.uk; and Website: http://visitweb.com/wehd
Rick Riedel began circulating e-mail messages with basic
information about the Grand Crosses over three months ago.
See Rie...@drizzle.com.
The "UrNaSha" by Daniel Nightwolf Ward describes a set of
stellar light codes that will be released for the ten days
beginning 8/11. Information released by: Johannine Grove
Ministry & Mazzaroth On Nathai, Templum Mysterium. Circulated
by Constance Demby, http://www.portalmarket.com/demby.html
Joseph-Mark Cohen of the Tree-of-Life School of Kabbalistic
Astrology & Healing has some superb material based on gematria,
the ancient science of degree reckoning within the circle.
http://home.istar.ca/~rampages/jmc-tree-of-life/
http://www.treeoflifeschool.com/
Mark Krueger's "Light Crossings" astrological newsletter is
uncommonly accurate and gracefully written. His recent work on
July and the Grand Cross is very useful. http://www.in2light.com
The events of 8/11 analysed in relation to prophecies by
Nostradamus, Cayce and others at "Return of the Dragon"
http://www.geocities.com/area51/nebula/9172/81199.html
The "Moon Wobble", as described in "The Astrology of Inner Space"
by Carl Payne Tobey, occurs every two months or so as the Moon's
Nodes come into contact with the periphery of the Earth in such a
way as to seem to be waving, or "wobbling". See astrologer Grace
Verte, gr...@sedonaarizona.com www.sedonavortexconnection.com/grace
A more expanded and unique listing of August 11, 1999 total
eclipse related web pages can be found here at: "Heart of
Darkness" http://www.geocities.com/area51/nebula/9172/se5.html
Dan Winter and the study team at Johannine Grove have much
insight on the sacred-scientific aspects of the star alignments:
http://www.danwinter.com/heartsun/HeartofSun.html
http://www.freestate.net/johgrove
Patricia Diane Cota-Robles has prepared a series of articles
about the astral alignments of this month, and several related
news stories. http://www.1spirit.com/eraofpeace/1st.html,
Era of Peace LATEST UPDATE Page
CalenderSign (calend...@vip.at) has been circulating e-mail
messages about the Star of Jerusalem since late last year.
The new Mountain Astrologer is out, with some excellent eclipse
and Grand Cross pieces.
The excited buzz that started two months ago, when it was
reported that the Illuminati were planning rituals at the Great
Pyramid -- including a grand rite of replacing its pyramidon, or
capstone -- for 8/11 - 13, has died down now. David Icke's
website has an article by Arizona Wilder predicting Illuminati
rituals -- starring such luminaries as George Bush -- to be held
at the Great Pyramid in December, not next week.
http://www.DavidIcke.com/icke/reading/wilder.html
Stay tuned. All possibilities, including those that seem most
desperately comic, remain in play. When the Book of God in the
firmament is displaying such signs and wonders as it does now,
is additional entertainment really necessary?
4.) Cosmic Birth: August 11, 1999 to May 5, 2000
Yes, additional entertainment is necessary, and it is coming
soon. The coming year, especially the "gestation period" that
begins on 8/11, may be the most astrally charged year that we
shall experience until 2012. The key power points for
organizing mass meditations and ceremonies, and for receiving
and using very strong transmissions of planetary energy, are
these, ranked like restaurants, from one star to five:
o 8/11/99 Eclipse and Grand Cross alignment. The day of
Conception on which the cosmic seed is planted.
o 8/17/99 Second Grand Cross alignment
o 9/22/99 The Autumn Equinox, falling on the 100-day Countup
Day to the Millennium. More auspicious for beginning the
last harvest and season of reckoning in this Millennium
o 10/22/99 The day of the Sun's transition from Libra to
Scorpio is very highly charged this year as Pluto moves
into an exact trine (120ø angle) with the Moon's North
Node. This moment is invaluable for testing video and
cyber connections that will link mass gatherings in the
months to come.
o 12/22/99 The Winter Solstice, occurring at the midpoint
of the Cosmic Birth cycle.
o 1/1/00 The Millennium: a media event based on an accident
of arithmetic. Considered in terms of its astral energy,
this "Millennium", like its brother and rival on 1/1/01,
only appears to be dull or inert. It is in fact a vitally
important rest and formation point, and need not be riveting
or entertaining. But it will be staged with great production
values anyway, and earns that second star on snazzy colored
lights and bells.
o 1/21/00 The first total Lunar Eclipse of 2000, with the
umbra covering all of the Americas--and coming just before
the Sun's entry into Aquarius.
o 3/22/00 The first Spring Equinox of the Millennium
o 4/6/00 ff "Star of the Magi": Now and for weeks to come,
the same star alignment that the Magi may have followed
in 7 BC -- Mars, Jupiter and Saturn conjunct, about 25ø
east of the Sun -- forms again. As the composite "star"
is moving "behind" the Sun, it remains bright above the
Western horizon for more than an hour after sunset. This
heralds the grand alignment of the Spring:
o 5/3 - 5/00 "Star of Jerusalem", with an immense concentration
of planetary energy in the sign of Taurus. The moment of
Cosmic Birth.
o 5/28/00 "Ruler of Time": Jupiter overtakes Saturn, after an
interval of 20 years, to form the Chronocrator, "Ruler of
Time" conjunction for the first time in the new Millennium.
Activities of adjustment to the measurement of time are
favored here.
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Saturday August 7 11:23 AM ET
Last Solar Eclipse of Century Looms Full Coverage Solar Eclipse
By SUE LEEMAN Associated Press Writer
http://headlines.yahoo.com/Full_Coverage/Science/Solar_Eclipse/
LAND'S END, England (AP) - At 11:10 a.m. Wednesday, the small
island of Bryher in the Scilly Isles off southwestern England
will go dark as the moon slides across the sun. It will be the
first landfall of the millennium's last total solar eclipse, an
event that is stirring eclipse fever from Europe to South Asia.
From Bryher, the moon's shadow will race at 1,522 mph across
the southwestern tip of England, where it will be pursued by two
supersonic Concorde jetliners carrying eclipse revellers, paying
$2,400 each for the privilege. Then it will speed across
northern France and swathes of Germany, Austria and Yugoslavia,
turning day to night in a corridor 69 miles wide.
It will rush across Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria, the Black Sea,
Turkey, Iraq, Iran, Pakistan and India, before dying at evening
in the Bay of Bengal.
Broadcasters around the world will carry the event live, and
millions of spectators are expected to gather along the eclipse
route. Despite inflated prices, many hotels have been booked
for years.
Authorities are warning people not to look directly at the sun
and to avoid traveling during the blackout. Experts say they
will experience a spectacular rushing wall of darkness, gusting
winds and an unearthly silence as birds and animals are tricked
into believing it is night.
``We had fallen. It was extinct. There was no color. The
earth was dead,'' author Virginia Woolf wrote after watching
Britain's last total eclipse, on June 29, 1927. There will not
be much time for marveling. At its longest, over south-central
Romania, the ``totality'' - the period when the sun is totally
obscured - will last just 2 minutes and 23 seconds.
First recorded in Babylonia in the 21st century B.C., solar
eclipses were feared by ancient cultures, which believed the sun
was forsaking the Earth to the demons of the dark. In ancient
China, astronomers who flubbed eclipse predictions were beheaded.
Today, an eclipse is an occasion to celebrate.
In Bucharest, Romania, Italian tenor Luciano Pavarotti will
perform in front of the giant palace built by former communist
dictator Nicolae Ceausescu. The German city of Munich is
staging a festival of music and food, and Stuttgart plans a
rap concert and all-night dance party.
Three big open-air festivals are on tap in southwestern England's
Cornwall county, which expects up to 1 million visitors. The
Vienna Symphony Orchestra will perform in the northern Turkish
city of Amasya, directly on the eclipse trajectory. For some,
it will be a time to work.
Scientists are converging on remote sites in India, Iraq and
Iran to monitor the eclipse, and others will be at the Romanian
town of Ramnicu Valcea, where the phenomenon will last longest.
Spacecraft studying the event include the European-American
Solar and Heliospheric Observatory and NASA's Transition Region
and Coronal Explorer. The latter will use a powerful telescope
to monitor enormous gas explosions on the sun that send writhing
balls of plasma into deep space at speeds of more than 600,000
mph.
A solar eclipse occurs when the moon crosses between the Earth
and sun, blocking the sun's light. The moon is only one-400th
the size of the sun, but the sun is 390 times farther away from
the Earth, making the moon's image almost exactly the same size
as the sun's when viewed from Earth.
Eclipses occur roughly every six months, but most are just
partial. The next total eclipse will be in 2001 over southern
Africa.
Places in the path of Wednesday's eclipse will begin to grow
dark more than an hour before totality, as the moon ``nibbles''
at the sun's rim.
Just before totality, the remains of the sun shining through the
valleys along the moon's edge look like a celestial necklace,
known as Baily's beads. This is soon reduced to what looks like
a diamond ring.
Then the sun is obscured, and its corona - a radiant halo of
superheated gas that surrounds the sun - becomes visible and the
stars come out.
With the sun at the height of its 11-year cycle of activity,
scientists hope Wednesday's eclipse will let them learn more
about the rarely sighted solar corona.
``Eclipse observations still give us the clearest view of the
corona,'' said Craig DeForest, a solar physicist at NASA's
Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Md.
Among other things, scientists are trying to learn why the
corona sizzles at 3. 6 million degrees Fahrenheit despite the
bitter cold of space. The temperature at the surface of the sun
is only about 11,000 degrees, while the sun's core is estimated
at 27 million degrees. Working at the Black Sea town of Varna,
Bulgaria, professor Ken Phillips of the Rutherford Appleton
Laboratory in Cambridge, England, and Dr. Peter Gallagher of
Queen's University in Belfast will use sophisticated cameras to
``grab'' data from the sun's flares at 50 frames a second.
Phillips hopes to find out whether wildly thrashing magnetic
fields heat the corona. ``Much as waves ...transport kinetic
energy which erodes the beach, these waves come out of the sun,
move along magnetic field lines and dump their energy into the
sun's atmosphere,'' he said.
Scientists also hope to learn more about the gas explosions,
which cause magnetic storms that can interfere with radio, TV
and telephone signals on earth and disrupt satellite
communications. A direct hit in 1989 knocked out power to the
Canadian city of Quebec. And because eclipses are the nearest
nature comes to turning off the sun, they also provide a chance
to study the earth's atmosphere.
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Advantage goes to Europe for millennium's last eclipse Eclipse:
A solar eclipse occurs when the moon blocks the sun's light from
an area of the Earth. The Earth and moon shine only by the
reflected light of the sun, and both cast a shadow into space
away from the sun. This shadow consists of a cone-shaped area
of complete darkness, the umbra, and a larger area of partial
darkness that surrounds the umbra, the penumbra. A solar
eclipse is total or partial depending on where the umbra or the
penumbra of the moon's shadow is viewed from the Earth. Source:
Concise Columbia Encyclopedia
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
In this story: Astronomers, spacecraft, holidays and hippies
August 7, 1999 Web posted at: 5:09 p. m. EDT (2109 GMT)
By Robin Lloyd CNN Interactive Senior Writer
(CNN) -- While most Americans will have to settle for live
Webcasts of Wednesday's total solar eclipse, Europeans find
themselves in the celestial catbird seat, with ideal geographic
positioning for the last such event of the millennium.
Preparations for the eclipse already have reached a fever pitch
in parts of Europe and the Middle East, with 4,000 astronomers
set to gather in northern France, the Lebanese government giving
schoolchildren the day off and British police already overwhelmed
by the "Cornwall crush."
"The next opportunity for a solar eclipse is 2081 for this part
of the Earth so it's something which is attracting quite a lot
of interest," said European Space Agency spokesman Franco
Bonacina.
"Lots of people are moving to this band which stretches from the
tip of Cornwall and comes through Belgium, covering a good part
of Belgium and France, then going to Germany and then it will go
through Austria and Hungary."
North Americans will have to wait until August 21, 2017, for the
next total solar eclipse, which will track from Washington state
to the Carolinas.
Total solar eclipses occur every 18 months due to a curious geo-
spatial coincidence -- our moon, despite being much closer to
Earth than the sun, is just the right size to obscure our
blazing star when the two are in alignment from any particular
point on the Earth.
The period when the sun is totally hidden by the moon at any
given point along the route is only two and a half minutes or
less, with the eclipse shadow racing across the planet in a 167-
mile-wide swath at 1,800 km/h (1,100 mph) at the equator and up
to 8,000 km/h (5,000 mph) near the poles. But the ecliptic
shadows generally sweep over oceans, sometimes only grazing land
masses or missing those that are densely populated. At any
given location on Earth, a total eclipse happens only once every
360 years.
And eclipses are shy, making themselves known only when the sun
is more than 90 percent obscured by the moon. At 99 percent
coverage, daylight effectively turns to twilight.
Wednesday's eclipse is rare because it will track mainly across
highly populated land masses, starting in the Atlantic Ocean
before crossing central Europe, the Middle East and India and
ending in the Bay of Bengal.
A far less spectacular partial eclipse will be visible due to
the moon's outer shadow passing across northeastern North
America, all of Europe, northern Africa and western Asia.
Astronomers, spacecraft, holidays and hippies
Cornwall, the only part of Britain where next week's eclipse
will be a total blackout, is worried that its big day will be
marred by an invasion of post-modern hippies and New Age
travelers.
The county in the far southwest of England expects as many as
1.5 million visitors along its twisting roads and ragged
coastline.
New Age travelers, nomads and other post-modern hippie groups
already have started descending on the county, attracted by as
much its rich Celtic history as by the eclipse. The British
government warned Friday against unnecessary journeys to
Cornwall.
In northern France, 4,000 members of a French astronomical
association will gather to observe the event. The European
Space Agency also has set up observation sites for the public in
Germany, Romania and on the border of Austria and Hungary
The sun-observing SOHO observatory, a joint NASA and ESA mission,
will observe the sun during the eclipse, although the
spacecraft's will not "see" the eclipse itself. NASA plans to
combine SOHO data with an audio eclipse experiment involving ham
radio operators from around the world in a study aimed at better
understanding atmospheric radio interference.
Lebanese government employees will work a half-day and all
school students will take the day off Wednesday, according to
the TerraNet Web site. Curiously, the Lebanese government said
the move was aimed at protecting citizens' eyes from the
potentially blinding rays of the eclipsed sun
Jordan and Syria have declared August 11th a national holiday
and have active government campaigns for eye safety related to
the eclipse, according to the BBC. Syrian television bulletins
warned viewers to remain indoors during the eclipse. The French
health ministry has banned the sale of protective glasses made
in Colombia, as they claim they offer inadequate eye protection.
But the main European eclipse hazard could be traffic jams.
Luckily, the event falls during a time when many Europeans are
on holiday at resort areas in southern France, Spain and Italy.
The hope is that the majority will want to remain in their
luxurious settings and decide against driving north to see the
eclipse.
The traffic is expected to be less troublesome than the annual
exodus that occurs on August 1 and repeats on August 15 when as
many as 18 million Europeans start their holidays and get in
their cars, Bonacina said.
Meanwhile, back in America and cyberspace
Hundreds of professional and amateur U.S. astronomers already
are en route to Europe to watch the moon swallow the sun one
more time this century.
"I think the professional astronomers are always willing to
travel no matter how far away it is," said Bruce Goldstein, a
solar astronomer who helps run a NASA probe that studies the sun.
Other U.S. astronomers will stay home to monitor data that
only can be collected during eclipses. When the moon blacks out
the sun's main disk, this provides rare views of the sun's outer
layer of gas, called the corona, as well as dust clouds that
surround the sun and regularly are obscured by the star's
brilliant light.
For the rest of us without plane tickets, spacecraft and
observatories, the best view of the total eclipse in the United
States will be on TV or the Web. Looking directly at an eclipse
can damage your eyes anyway. But cameras can safely capture the
image of the moon passing between the Earth and the sun.
This last total solar eclipse of the 1900s is notable for being
the first to get extensive live coverage on the Internet, and
eclipse fanatics have several choices.
A nonprofit group in Japan will offer live Webcasts of the
eclipse at www. solar-eclipse. org, which will carry video
images from seven observation points from England to Iran,
starting at 4 a.m. EDT and lasting about three hours.
NASA will offer several real-time audio and video images related
to the eclipse at http://eclipse99.nasa.gov
The European Space Agency's Web site also will offer real-time
eclipse and SOHO images, updated every 10 minutes at http://www.
esa. int. As for Europe's live viewing advantage, ESA's
Bonacina took a diplomatic attitude typical of many Europeans,
saying it was "a pity" that the eclipse's shadow would fail to
grace the United States.
"It's just sheer luck that it happens at the end of the century
here and not in the States," he said.
The Associated Press and Reuters contributed to this report
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NASA's Coverage ::: "Decrypting the Eclipse"
http://science.msfc.nasa.gov/newhome/headlines/ast06aug99_1.htm
>
> -=[ THE ILLUMINATI MILLENNIUM RITUALS ]=-
>
As this RATHER large post has absolutely nothing to do with
Freemasonry, I've taken the liberty of setting followups outside of
alt.freemasonry.
I encourage participants of other newsgroups to follow suit if the
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Anyone on alt.freemasonry who actually want to continue reading the
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alt.fan.george-bush.
I'd also seriously recommend a visit to alt.psychology.psychoanalysis
as well.
--
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Vista lodge #687 (www.vista-masons.org)
Vista, California
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-- C.S. Kingsley
Brother Blue <Broth...@MindNet.org> wrote in message
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> Bill Knight wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, 10 Aug 1999 03:17:02 GMT, Broth...@MindNet.org (Brother
> > Blue) wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > -=[ THE ILLUMINATI MILLENNIUM RITUALS ]=-
> > >
> >
> > As this RATHER large post has absolutely nothing to do with
> > Freemasonry, I've taken the liberty of setting followups outside of
> > alt.freemasonry.
> >
> > I encourage participants of other newsgroups to follow suit if the
> > material is not germane to the charter of their newsgroup.
> >
> > Anyone on alt.freemasonry who actually want to continue reading the
> > material in this thread may consult one of the following groups:
> > alt.alien.visitors, alt.conspiracy, alt.illuminati,
> > talk.religion.misc, alt.mythology, alt.folklore, or
> > alt.fan.george-bush.
> >
> > I'd also seriously recommend a visit to alt.psychology.psychoanalysis
> > as well.
> >
> > --
> > Bill Knight - Master Mason (www.fbkltd.com/knight)
> > Vista lodge #687 (www.vista-masons.org)
> > Vista, California
> >
> > "The age of chivalry is never past, so long as there remains on earth one wrong left unrighted."
> >
> > -- C.S. Kingsley
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> A guy named "Jack" writes:
>
> "This forum [ http://byamerican.com/cgi-bin/ast/config.cgi ]
> [...It's] a serious look at whether or not we can legitimate
> the claims of people [...] that humanity is being observed
> and/or visited by Aliens of some kind."
>
> http://www.orbsite.com/
>
> _______________________________________
> Body of Haskell man found in Wanaque River
>
> Sunday, July 25, 1999
>
> WANAQUE -- The body of a Haskell man who apparently drowned
> accidentally was found in the Wanaque River off Highland Avenue
> late Friday afternoon, police said.
>
> Donald Garbarino, 43, of Storms Avenue was found floating in the
> river by Kenneth Fletcher of Wanaque about 4 p.m. Friday. Fletcher
> called Wanaque police, who responded with the Passaic County Sheriff's
> Department scuba team.
>
> The body was retrieved from the water and positively identified
> through information contained in a wallet Garbarino was carrying,
> police said.
>
> The preliminary finding is that the death was an accidental drowning,
> police said. Wanaque police Saturday could not say how long Garbarino
> was in the water or provide specifics on the accident.
>
> Fletcher could not be reached for comment.
>
> The investigation is being continued by the New Jersey Regional Medical
> Examiner's Office in Newark.
>
> -- KENNETH LOVETT
>
> Copyright Å 1999 Bergen Record Corp.
> ===========
>
> MADELINE SEEGER SPIESS, 91, of the Haskell section of Wanaque
> died Wednesday [08/04/99]. Arrangements: D'Agostino Funeral Home, Wanaque.
> ===========
>
> > W a n a q u e / H a s k e l l / P a s s a i c C o u n t y / N e w J e r s e y
>
> > Wanaque
>
> > by Dr. Bruce Cornet
>
> > http: //users.erols.com/sardonica/FSGEIGHT /
>
> > As if my life isn't extraordinary enough, on Memorial Day I went to Wanaque,
> > NJ, with Bryan Williams and Tommy Sinisi, and had my picture taken with an
> > alien! The event occurred while Bryan was photographing me and Tommy at an
> > interdimensional portal, which Bryan calls the Vortex. This anomalous area
> > is located in a field on the floodplain to Acid Brook, the infamous
> > dumping ground of mercury-contaminated sludge from a Dupont munitions
> > factory in the adjoining valley. The factory has since been closed down,
> > and the area is slowly recovering environmentally.
>
> > Paranormal activity has been documented at Wanaque for many decades, as well
> > as reported sightings of UFOs. Recently Dick and Uncle Jack stepped
> > forward, like Doug and Dave in England [Doug Bower and Dave Chorley,
> > infamous crop circle hoaxers. -Editor], claiming that they had perpetrated
> > all the UFO sightings over the Wanaque reservoir in the late 1950's and
> > early 1960's by sending a balloon aloft over the reservoir containing a
> > basket filled with fireworks. Wanaque is also known for its attraction to
> > white and black witches, the KKK, and the Freemasons.
>
> > Over the past three months Bryan and crew have been documenting numerous
> > strange phenomena at the Vortex, most of which have been captured on film
> > and video. At his website ( http: //members.aol.com/rolusa/default.htm )
> > Bryan, also known as Sargel 18, has an opening page showing him standing
> > in front of an alien who had just entered our dimension through a portal.
> > During May we began recording a different kind of phenomenon, which
> > includes ribbons of light coming off the illuminated crystals we had set
> > up at the Vortex, and double images of those being photographed (Figure
> > 1). These are not double exposures, because only the individual(s) in the
> > photo is/are duplicated near where he/they stood or sat, and because the
> > orientation and lighting on the individual(s) are different.
> > http: //users.erols.com/sardonica/FSGEIGHT /
> ___________________________________________
>
> Bryan Williams/Sargel18 wrote:
>
> The Wanaque vortex area is dangerous to anyone who goes there.
> Actually the "Psychic" people stand more of a chance of posession
> then the non-psychic. This is because they are open and can be
> manipulated much easier then non psychics. Plus, I tell everyone
> the warnings but their ego gets in the way and they think their
> invulnerable, these people may have come into contact with
> paranormal things before and think they can handle anything.
> This place is like nun other I have ever seen and should be
> handled with extreme caution. As for the town, think about it.
> If I'm right and these beings are there, how do you think the
> people are affected? Haskell, is a tough town and the people
> there are into many many metaphysical avenues.
>
> I haven't taken people to the vortex for awhile, as a matter of
> fact I just started in mid July again. Most find the bridge on
> their own, the other places where most of the actual contact
> happens is never found.
>
> Just to let everyone know, another death has just recently happened
> at the vortex. This time a 44 year old man who was well known in the
> town. he was face down back by the river (right now the river is no
> more then 6 inches deep in most places). Oh yeah, no signs of foul
> play. This was just in the local Trends newspaper. I wonder what he
> saw before he died? Just a thought..
>
> peace
> - - -
> The article was in last wednesdays Trends. If you call the paper
> they can confirm.
>
> There has been a number of deaths over the years that I've been in
> Wanaque in this area. The last really wierd death was last year at
> the bridge. A women stops her car right in the middle of the bridge.
> The car (from what I hear) was full of jewelry and over 100,000
> dollars. She stops, goes to the edge and jumps 90 ft to her death.
> For no reason! Why would someone do that? Oh, and the night before
> the bridge officially opened two kids in a car speeding over a
> hundred miles an hour crash without breaking into the cement divider,
> both dead. These are just a few stories of this area and death. I
> hear there is more but I just can't remember the details. I tell you
> being back there by yourself can be nerve racking sometimes even for
> myself. I have personally gone to the whole area and searched the
> swamps well over 600 times. people that know me will back me up on
> this. I will tell you this people have a lot to say from the safty
> of their homes when making statements about this research but I
> really do love it when every now and then one gets to go out there
> and really do the field research with me. When something does happen
> (I mean this third dimensionally) and they witness it, the people
> simply melt and I mean that. Then of course I never hear from them
> again.
>
> For your last question, last year when the drought was on there were
> physical creatures back there by the water. Why? I'm not sure yet.
> But that was the time I filmed some of my best pictures!
>
> It takes big balls to go back and walk the river and swamps from the
> sand pits to Pompton Lakes by yourself. At least that is what people
> tell me when they find out where I go. But, thats where the beings are,
> where people aren't. I use myself as bait, so far I'm unharmed but I
> believe people every now and then go back there and that's it, they
> meet something they are not prepared for and we read about them in the
> obits.
>
> Peace
> - - -
> The reason I warn people about this vortex is simply because I feel
> it is the right thing to do. people have called me everything from
> a horder to wanting all the glory of the discovery. Well I'm not
> hording and there isn't any glory in this discovery. I have never
> told anyone "NOT TO GO" or "I forbid you to go" I just tell them
> it's dangerous and unless your really prepared, don't
> chance it.
>
> That's all
>
> ---
> Jack Shulman wrote:
>
> : Bryan,
>
> : Thanks for spending so much of your rather precious time responding to
> : inquiries here. This forum is read far and wide, and further and wider.
>
> : I think if you meditate on it for a few weeks , I think you'll see that
> : the Internet can take whatever you say a number of ways.
>
> : Clearly, you are a person who cares about the well being of others.
>
> : But the Internet is an entirely different game. The crowd is a mix of public
> : and professionals.
>
> : The pros like to look like the public. And they love to mess with your mind.
>
> : Jason is a member of the public: he is coping with his own reaction to the
> : Vortex BEFORE THE FACT if you get my drift.
>
> : That's how powerful the energy there is. All you need to do is discuss it,
> : and it starts to manifest in the thinking process of people who are
> : subconsciously coming into contact with its mentative energies, just by
> : virtue of the CONSIDERATION OF WHAT YOU ARE DESCRIBING to them - that is a
> : process of how our brains work. And the energy of the Vortex is that
> : powerful a medium.
>
> : Be careful. You may need to meditate as I said above to give the process time
> : to settle in, as you may be putting a mudslinging target on the subject.
>
> : Particularly with this boring turkey out their bricking you with prior
> : efforts taken completely out of context when you first tenuously explored
> : attempting to get people involved, and attempting get people to assist you
> : with some of the costs, which is a very fair thing for you to have done,
> : by the way.
>
> : People don't have any idea how much this all has cost you, even now that
> : you've revealed the hundreds of thousands you've spent between money,
> : equipment and sweat. Its perfectly acceptable for you to be out their
> : asking for support, as you are doing humanity quite a favor. Yet, despite
> : the two years of LACK OF SUPPORT financially, you've persisted ON YOUR
> : OWN. That speaks to your quality as a person. The Vortex and the
> : "beings" and "orbs" is a subject matter that is almost
> : beyond comprehension for one person, on their own, to begin to take on and
> : report on.
>
> : As I mentioned earlier, I don't think the Public is ready for the metaphors
> : of the conflicting species who ebb and flow for control of the spiritual
> : medium of the distant species. That one looks "dragon like" or
> : one looks "lizard like" is like saying something is a
> : "grey". We really only know that they all look ALIEN to us
> : humans. To categorize them is like calling one a "hooked nose
> : jew" or another a "red skin" - its Racist. I know you
> : didn't intend it that way, but you may be doing so inadvertently, and I
> : would caution you NOT to. I think it would offend me with all the
> : significant negatives associated in some cultures with dragons and
> : lizards, to call something one of them.
>
> : Also: we only know that some kind of energy is allowing "them" to
> : appear in the Vortex Canyon, and to travel from there to other locations.
>
> : BTW: You've come by a whole plethora of information for which we don't have
> : enough background information to get a clear picture of either the
> : severity of the three or more distant species POLITICAL conflict or
> : PHILOSOPHICAL conflict, nor do we really know their true intentions, just
> : what in my opinion, you've been allowed to understand. You, in a way, are
> : on a trust walk, but be careful. Remember: in our Universe, Betrayal is
> : NOT OUT OF THE QUESTION... particularly if there is something
> : "they" may need. Is there something that we have in abundance,
> : like certain metals or liquids or gasses or rare-materials? How do we
> : know? Maybe its just "occupiable real estate". Maybe its food?
> : (To Serve Man?)
>
> : Remember, we really DON'T KNOW the full potential danger of the Vortex or the
> : beings. Remember: ARROGANCE is our worst enemy.
>
> : Remember from our own society: wars are always really based on economic/power
> : factors, but are usually blamed on and/or triggered by the
> : religious/spiritual/politics by those who seek benefit from them.
>
> : We should learn from ourselves: Consider that the Universe may not be so
> : different OFF EARTH as ON EARTH as you may have considered previously.
>
> : Be careful: you could be easily manipulated. The Universe can be a real bear!
>
> : Meditate on it for a while and let it be, let it be, let it be.
>
> : Don't "Feed the Bear", for now. He may be hungry or worse yet,
> : angry and feeling cornered...
>
> : Jack
> ===================================
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>
> Wanaque, Passaic County, New Jersey
>
> Population: 9711
>
> School System
> Superintendent: Patrick Pelosi
> Address:
> 547 Ringwood Avenue
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>
>
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>
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>
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> ============
>
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>
> Pompton Lakes Online:
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>
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> =============
>
> Wanaque/Haskell, Passaic County, NJ Map: http://www.mapquest.com
> =============
>
> A guy named "Jack" wrote:
>
> "This forum [ http://byamerican.com/cgi-bin/ast/config.cgi ]
> [...It's] a serious look at whether or not we can legitimate
> the claims of people [...] that humanity is being observed
> and/or visited by Aliens of some kind."
>
> http://www.orbsite.com/
<snip>
You saying that David Icke is into the reptoids, too?
Paul
Sam
Bill Knight wrote in message <37baf9a0....@news.armored.net>...
>On Tue, 10 Aug 1999 01:21:49 -0700, "Dr. Jose Delgado"
><s...@tzu.mindfarm.org> wrote:
>
>>White Onyx wrote:
>>
>>> Bill Knight wrote:
>>> >
>>> > On Tue, 10 Aug 1999 03:17:02 GMT, Broth...@MindNet.org (Brother
>>> > Blue) wrote:
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> > > -=[ THE ILLUMINATI MILLENNIUM RITUALS ]=-
>>> > >
>
>That was cute, adding alt.psychology.psychoanalysis to the
>distribution. I hope it helps you get the attention you appear to
>need. You rather missed the point that the post has nothing to do
>with freemasonry though.
>
>Damn usernet vandels. Even if they hunting season is open, the pelt
>is worthless.
>
See this site for an overview of how the conspirators have created an
"artificial alien threat" in order to frighten the people most of which are
extremely gullible so they would unite under the United Nations one world
government.
http://harvest-trust.org/majestyt.htm
Paul Whitehead wrote in message ...
> David Icke is a warped New Ager who calls Jesus a mythological figure
> despite the vast evidence that he actually existed.
My own research shows just as much evidence that Jesus, as it was written in
the bible, didn't exist as that he did. Of course this is only from reading
other authors works. I personally think Jesus did exist, but his "story" was
embellished by adding miracles and other such stuff.
> If you look at the man's
> site you will see that his motivation to call Jesus a mythological figure
is
> so he can ease his conscious because he promotes free sex. Even homosexual
> sex.
Where do you get that from? I've seen David live and also spent a great
amount of time reading his books and his website. He promotes unconditional
love not sex. There is a big difference. Love is the highest vibration there
is. If all of humanity would embrace love instead of hate and fear, the
world would be in much better shape than it is now. I have not heard
anything from him pertaining to free sex. As for homosexuallity, he believes
as I do. Everyone has free will to make whatever sexual choices they
want....it's not my place to condemn them because of it.
> David Icke can't have Jesus ruining his immoral life course for him by
> making him feel guilty so he denounces Jesus as a mythological figure so
he
> doesn't have to be accountable for his actions and what he promotes. All
the
> New Agers believe in Aliens so he fits right in with the agenda of the
> conspiracy that he pretends to be fighting.
What David talks about is nothing new. He has just spent the time putting
all the information out there together into a clearer picture. I see more
evidence validating his position, the whole picture not just Jesus, than
evidence pointing to God in the religious sense.
> See this site for an overview of how the conspirators have created an
> "artificial alien threat" in order to frighten the people most of which
are
> extremely gullible so they would unite under the United Nations one world
> government.
I have never met a true "New Ager" that is frightened in the least about
aliens, one world government or the people and aliens manipulating the world
into hate and fear. We are here to promote love and healing and peace. I
truly belive in God, but God is so much more than what religion shows him to
be. I started my search for truth as a born again Christian, but I had so
many questions that just couldn't be explained thru religion.
Religion is too manipulative and constraining, for me anyway. Just look at
the death and destruction the world has endured thru the ages all in the
name of religion. My beliefs now reflect that people can believe what they
want. If it makes them happy, they add to this world. Religion as a whole
teaches that if you don't believe what is preached.....you can expect
eternal damnation......that's wrong.
Pat
<snip>
I looked, thanks. Got the lowdown on this 'William Cooper'?
What is the driving force behind the paranoia in the US that the United
Nations socialist army/guvmint is trying to take over the world (with
the apparent connivance of the present US guvmint)?
Any socialist would laugh at any suggestion of a UN take over with or
without US guvmint connivance. I would have to add that probably the
whole of Europe laughs its head off at this sort of stuff.
As a US person (a historian, I believe) stated a few years back:
'socialism is dead, geddit?' (or words to that affect).
'Paul'
>
> What David talks about is nothing new. He has just spent the time putting
> all the information out there together into a clearer picture. I see more
> evidence validating his position, the whole picture not just Jesus, than
> evidence pointing to God in the religious sense.
That about sums up the Ickster. He just yells out, "every conspiracy
theory, ever made, is true!" Then he follows up with, "lets see how they
all fit together". Heck, he even thinks the hollow earth theory is
correct.
Personally, I think the idea of George Bush committing ritual sodomy is
going way overboard. I wonder if Barb knows about this? Don't you think
it might be a little to hot up there in the Great pyramid? Last I heard,
they hadn't yet installed the AC. I think old George will faint right in
the middle of the good stuff. What happens then (ritualistically)? Does
world freedom break out? Do you think the the NWO folks will risk that?
"World domination- good. Ritual Sodomy- baaaddd!"
Sznog
In article <37b3a298....@news.armored.net>,
kni...@fbkltd.com wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Aug 1999 03:17:02 GMT, Broth...@MindNet.org (Brother
> Blue) wrote:
>
> >
> > -=[ THE ILLUMINATI MILLENNIUM RITUALS ]=-
> >
>
> As this RATHER large post has absolutely nothing to do with
> Freemasonry, I've taken the liberty of setting followups outside of
> alt.freemasonry.
>
> I encourage participants of other newsgroups to follow suit if the
> material is not germane to the charter of their newsgroup.
>
> Anyone on alt.freemasonry who actually want to continue reading the
> material in this thread may consult one of the following groups:
> alt.alien.visitors, alt.conspiracy, alt.illuminati,
> talk.religion.misc, alt.mythology, alt.folklore, or
> alt.fan.george-bush.
>
> I'd also seriously recommend a visit to alt.psychology.psychoanalysis
> as well.
>
> --
> Bill Knight - Master Mason (www.fbkltd.com/knight)
> Vista lodge #687 (www.vista-masons.org)
> Vista, California
>
> "The age of chivalry is never past, so long as there remains on earth
one wrong left unrighted."
>
> -- C.S. Kingsley
>
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
>I'd like to further suggest you go to http://www.texemarrs.com. I
>would like to ask you to read the books Project L.U.C.I.D., Circle of
>Intrigue and Mystery Mark of the New Age. You can further your
>intellectual ability with the truth from a former career Air Force
>Intelligence Officer, a best-selling author and a former associate
>college professor, at more than one university, who can enlighten you
>about the higher-ups who are controlling your secret society and
>controlling everybody on this earth. You are a member of another secret
>new-age group whose obvious intent and purpose is to bring the earth
>into a global government. You like so many of your "brethen" were
>seduced into believing you can perform God's will by good works alone.
>You are tricked into being part of a group with ancient traditions.
>They have managed to seduce many people this way.
Mullah went to borrow a pot from his friend and neighbor. At
first, the neighbor was distrustful, given that Mullah was such
a fool, as he feared that the pot might get broken. But Mullah
persevered, and the pot was given for one day.
On the following day, Mullah returned not with the pot, but will
a small bowl, of much lesser value. Outraged, the neighbor accused
Mullah of theft, but Mullah replied, "Your pot had this child
overnight. I found it on the shelf, next to the pot, when I arose
this morning. I knew it was rightfully yours, just as surely as
its mother is. If you want, I shall bring back its mother right
away, but I think that she may still be with child, and this bowl
is the first of the litter."
Intrigued with greed, the neighbor told Mullah to keep the pot
another night or two, to see what fortune might bring. Mullah
acquiesced, and retired.
For three days, Mullah was nowhere to be seen. The neighbor,
growing suspicious, went to Mullah's house, and demanded his pot.
"Sadly," intoned Mullah, "your pot has died, and I was forced to
bury the poor creature. Your pot is no more, but given up. I
grieve your loss with you, but such is the nature of things."
Enraged, the neighbor asked how it was possible for a pot to die.
"In exactly the same way," replied Mullah, "that it could have a
child."
-Brother Blue, B:.B:.
Sufi Bard and Memetic Engineer
>Damn usernet vandels. Even if they hunting season is open, the pelt
>is worthless.
Oh? Ever see Silence Of The Lambs?
Sew 'em together and they make a great bodystocking. Nice lampshades, too.
----------------------------------------------
One World; One Web; One Program. -- Microsoft
Ein Volk; Ein Reich; Ein Fuhrer. -- Hitler
----------------------------------------------
>Enraged, the neighbor asked how it was possible for a pot to die.
>"In exactly the same way," replied Mullah, "that it could have a
>child."
In other words, the neighbor was right to be suspicious -- Mullah stole his pot.
He should never have lent it to Mullah in the first place.
If you don't get help at Charter, please -- get help somewhere.
Brother Blue wrote in message <37b3155...@news2.cts.com>...
>Enraged, the neighbor asked how it was possible for a pot to die.
>"In exactly the same way," replied Mullah, "that it could have a
>child."
>
Sam <ta...@donet.com> wrote in message
news:mFYr3.1200$M5....@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> Don't you know. Many New Agers have incorporated the Masons and other
secret
> societies into their belief system as being part of the Illuminati. If you
> noticed the gratuitous use of the term in the post. George Bush was a
member
> of the Satanic Masonic Order of Skull and Bones of Yale University.
>
> Sam
>
> Bill Knight wrote in message <37baf9a0....@news.armored.net>...
> >On Tue, 10 Aug 1999 01:21:49 -0700, "Dr. Jose Delgado"
> ><s...@tzu.mindfarm.org> wrote:
> >
> >>White Onyx wrote:
> >>
> >>> Bill Knight wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > On Tue, 10 Aug 1999 03:17:02 GMT, Broth...@MindNet.org (Brother
> >>> > Blue) wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > >
> >>> > > -=[ THE ILLUMINATI MILLENNIUM RITUALS ]=-
> >>> > >
> >
> >That was cute, adding alt.psychology.psychoanalysis to the
> >distribution. I hope it helps you get the attention you appear to
> >need. You rather missed the point that the post has nothing to do
> >with freemasonry though.
> >
If you had done half the research that you claimed you would know that
it's girl scouts and not brownies who sell the cookies. The brownies
are still learning the basic mind control techniques first developed by
the Masons in the underground crypts they mantain in our elementary
schools. Once you understand this you will release that it's no
coincidence that most young girls have a skull and bones.
What? You mean they're not?
> Sam <ta...@donet.com> wrote in message
> news:mFYr3.1200$M5....@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> > Don't you know. Many New Agers have incorporated the Masons and other
> secret
> > societies into their belief system as being part of the Illuminati. If
you
> > noticed the gratuitous use of the term in the post. George Bush was a
> member
> > of the Satanic Masonic Order of Skull and Bones of Yale University.
> >
> > Sam
> >
> > Bill Knight wrote in message <37baf9a0....@news.armored.net>...
> > >On Tue, 10 Aug 1999 01:21:49 -0700, "Dr. Jose Delgado"
> > ><s...@tzu.mindfarm.org> wrote:
> > >
> > >>White Onyx wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Bill Knight wrote:
> > >>> >
> > >>> > On Tue, 10 Aug 1999 03:17:02 GMT, Broth...@MindNet.org (Brother
> > >>> > Blue) wrote:
> > >>> >
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > -=[ THE ILLUMINATI MILLENNIUM RITUALS ]=-
> > >>> > >
> > >
Chris
"Teemu K. Lohenoja" wrote:
> Michael Carr wrote:
> >
> > If you had done half the research that you claim you would know as well as I
> > do that the "Skull and Bones" Organitation has absolutly nothing to do with
> > Freemasonry. Could you at least review you facts before you post. Next
> > you'll tell us that the Brownies are realy a terrorist group slowly feeding
> > us drugs in their cookies.
>
> Well they are, aren't they?
>
> ==============================================================================
> Teemu K. Lohenoja aka DeepOne
> e-mail: teemu.l...@kolumbus.fi
> WWW: www.kolumbus.fi/teemu.lohenoja
> http:://members.xoom.com/d1project
> ==============================================================================
Answering Chomsky's Challenge on JFK
http://www.crocker.com/~acacia/article.html
See this link to see that it was Nazi New Age Freemason Satanist in the CIA
who murdered JFK.
Sam
Teemu K. Lohenoja wrote in message <37BDD012...@kolumbus.fi>...
Since Skull & Bones is a fraternity unique to Yale University, where do
all those Masons come from who didn't go to Yale? Ergo, the S&B has
_nothing_ to do with Freemasonry. Period.
George Bush is not even a Third Degree Master Mason, let alone a 33rd
degree Scottish Rite Mason. I have this on absolutely unimpeachable
authority--a Past Master of Henry Lodge #57 who was Bush's military
attache in China and a personal friend of the family. If Bush _were_ a
Mason, I know that some quiet arrangements would have been made to have
him visit the Lodge during his friend's term as Master, which occurred
while Bush was in the White House.
If you claim otherwise, identify the Lodge to which George Bush belongs
and the Scottish Rite Valley to which he belongs. When was he coroneted
a 33rd? When did he receive the KCCH? When was he initiated, passed,
and raised? Why does he never appear in public with a Masonic lapel pin
as most Masons do?
As for the CIA being a "nest" of Masons--I don't think that Masons have
a nesting instinct. I have met three Masons who worked for the CIA that
I know of. The CIA employs several tens of thousands of people. Many
of them women. How many CIA employees are Masons? (What proportion of
an organization constitutes a "nest?") How do _you_ know this? Are you
in possession of classified information by extra-legal means?
I count seven separate assertions in your quoted passage. Five of them
are false. That's not a good record. Even an honest roulette wheel
comes up black more than 28.57% of the time. Guess we can assess your
claim to be honest...
Roger M. Firestone, 32 KCCH
> No the Skull and Bones is patterned after Freemasonry.
Ok, Sam (or are you Jerry today?), so that we can determine these
things objectively, please tell us the following:
-- How many 'Degrees' does the Skull and Bones Society
at Yale University have?
-- What is the leader of the Skull and Bones Society called?
-- What is the dues structure of the organization?
-- What is the process for becoming a member?
-- Is there ever any *hazing* (because there is NONE
in Freemasonry!)?
-- Do they hold public events where their meeting rooms are
open to all?
-- Do they support charities? If so, which ones?
-- Do they use symbols to impart their teachings? If so,
what symbols are they?
-- Do they have a "legend" which they use as part of their
ceremonies? If so, does it include builders as Freemasonry does?
-- Do they have obligations for a new member? If so, are they taken
on the Bible or religious book of the person's faith?
-- Do they require a belief in a Supreme Being?
So if you know all about their organization being patterned after Freemasonry,
then PLEASE share with us some more of the details. We'd be *very* curious to
compare these similarities you claim.....
> Most of their rituals are borrowed from Freemasonry
Oh, really? Could you tell us even some BASIC things about that? Like, for
example, how many degrees they have? What the central themes of those degrees
are? What some of the similarities are?
> and it is initiatory to being a Mason.
REALLY? Hot diggedy! Yale University in New Haven, Connecticut, which is the ONLY
place where the Skull & Bones Society exists, must have one heck of an unreported
student body then! Imagine: millions of men who're Yale alumni not wanting to
claim it for fear of..... Why *would they* fear claiming Yale attendance, Sam/Jerry?
If it is initiatory to being a Mason, you mean to say that all of us who're Masons
were once undergraduates at Yale? WOW!
> George Bush is a 33rd degree Mason of the Scottish Rite
And can you tell us, Sam/Jerry, what Valley he belongs to? Perhaps you could
also name his Masonic Lodge? You know, the one he says he's not a member of....
> and a member of Skull and Bones.
And NOW we hit the very first true statement in your post.
> He was also the X-director of the CIA
Actually, no! He is a *former* director, having left the organization under
quite honorable circumstances.
> ...the CIA a nest of Masons.
Perhaps Sam/Jerry, you could tell us exactly how many employees the CIA has
and how many of them are Masons? Is the current Director a Mason? How many
Section Heads are Masons? What about operatives? How many of them are Masons?
You know, Jerry, you really should stick to hollering at the Christian Identity
folks over on alt.conspiracy.... This is WAY out of your league!
But for readers who've stayed with this so far, PLEASE don't be too harsh on
Sam Moser here. Sam is, after all, a person with some mental problems. He has
been institutionalized for these and is working towards a recovery. One sign
of his recovery, in fact, is that he rarely uses the name of Jerry Newport,
one of his former mental health workers. He does still call the Air Force Base
there in Ohio to complain about the planes they have following him around but
hopefully his mother is taking good care of him. He needs something to do and
regretfully, newsgroups seems to be 'it'! <SIGH> You can read about Sam/Jerry
at http://www.masonicinfo.com/newport.htm where - at Jerry/Sam's request, I've
placed links to some of his 'great' material.
> Answering Chomsky's Challenge on JFK
> http://www.crocker.com/~acacia/article.html
> See this link to see that it was Nazi New Age Freemason Satanist in the CIA
> who murdered JFK.
You know, Sam, you really need to check things more carefully. Do you know
that Chomsky is one of Lyndon Larouche's henchemen? Do you know who Lyndon
Larouche is? If not, you might want to ask the Elders: he is NOT someone
who thinks very highly of your religion!!!!! In fact, if he had his way,
I suspect your religion would be non-existant. That you support his views
is - at best - quite odd!
Ed King
http://www.masonicinfo.com -- Anti-Masonry: Points of View
Internet newsgroup posting. Copyright 1999. All rights reserved.
I think you're confusing Anton Chaikin (of the notorious Schiller
Institute) with Noam Chomsky (a professor of linguistics with rather
peculiar far-left notions). I don't believe that there is anyone named
Chomsky who is involved with the LaRouche organization....
"Dr. Roger M. Firestone" wrote:
>
> In article <1itw3.1174$M05....@newsfeed.slurp.net>,
> Roger M. Firestone, 32 KCCH
Actually, the CIA is more of a "nest" of Mormons.... the reason being, I
would imagine, that LDS people can pass a background investigation and
drug test more easily than the general populace. Conspiracy? No....
just an example of our government's paranoia about anyone with a past
history of drug use.
Masons in government? Well, considering that all Masons I have ever
known were and are men of honour, let there be more!
F&S,
Paul Julian Gould EA
Home Lodge #721 F&AM
Van Nuys, California, USA
--
=============================
Per Fimos Tauroram Ad Gloriam
=============================
[...]
>As for the CIA being a "nest" of Masons--I don't think that Masons have
>a nesting instinct. I have met three Masons who worked for the CIA that
>I know of.
Make that four, now.
>The CIA employs several tens of thousands of people. Many
>of them women. How many CIA employees are Masons? (What proportion of
>an organization constitutes a "nest?") How do _you_ know this? Are you
>in possession of classified information by extra-legal means?
Let's just say it's one of those "need to know" items.
-Brother Blue, B:.B:., Ph.D., 33°
Interdimensional Intelligence Analyst
Sublime Lodge of the Blue Brethren
Sacerdotal Knights of National Security
Well they should be easy to identify, how many Masons are; New age Nazi
Satanist? I know there are many lodges, but this one and it's membership
should be easy to identify. Phew soon we will know the killers identities
for sure!
Taroya
Aeneas
Don't let him fool you. This guy's motiviation is to sell books.
--
Ted Berry 32' PSD
Benjamin B. French Lodge #15 Washington DC
Albert Pike Consistory, etc. Valley of DC
Eastern Star Lodge, Rehoboth, Mass
Nobody suspects the Tower Credit Union!
<context-away>
>And besides, who would care? I fail to understand why people dislike
>Masons. And no, being female, I am not a Mason.
>
>Taroya
Nobody would dislike Masons (well almost nobody) if it could be proven
that they (I mean those at the very top) are not Covert Luciferian
Satanistas (CLuS). But that can't be proven. On the on the other hand,
there's enough info about people like Pike, Mazzini (sp?) etc.; and
there's enough info about the effect of secrecy and too much power in
the hands of men . . . well, to many people (including me) it appears
as if those running "Masonry" are a bunch of no-goodnicks (to put it
mildly). Hell, girl, when you consider the hoards of elected panderers
(Senators, Congressmen, and the like) who are "Masons" and who also
deserve to be hanged by the neck until dead. . .
Regards,
Tsun
"Sam" ta...@donet.com wrote in
<1itw3.1174$M05....@newsfeed.slurp.net>:
>No the Skull and Bones is patterned after Freemasonry. Most of
their rituals
>are borrowed from Freemasonry and it is initiatory to being a
Mason. George
>Bush is a 33rd degree Mason of the Scottish Rite and a member of
Skull and
>Bones. He was also the X-director of the CIA a nest of Masons.
>
>Answering Chomsky's Challenge on JFK
>http://www.crocker.com/~acacia/article.html
>See this link to see that it was Nazi New Age Freemason Satanist
in the CIA
>who murdered JFK.
>
Nick the Lemming
--
In your face Space Coyote!
Karl <kba...@s.p.a.m.alumni.jmu.edu> wrote in message
news:8E2E5739Elkj...@news1.radix.net...
aeneas
Taroya
Freemasonry is a selfish organisation and certainly doesn't "better" man
or society. Freemasonry encourages unselfishness toward other masons and
(selfish!) betterment of themselves. They are anti-Christian, although
they pretend to promote a god fearing attitude.
So mote it be.
--
Colin Lyne
And this is the man I have been trying to track down
for many years.
Anyone have any input pse ?
-michael-
The message <242-37C...@newsd-171.iap.bryant.webtv.net>
from METAP...@webtv.net (cherel drennan) contains these words:
Simply put:
Scottish Rites does not equate to 33rd degree.
33rd degree is by invitation only.
Only a few are 33rd degree.
Scottish Rites take you through the 32nd degree.
I would think anyone can understand that, but it wouldn't surprise
me if you don't.
"Aeneas" aen...@nbnet.nb.ca wrote in
<7q4r43$th$1...@garnet.nbnet.nb.ca>:
>i can't see how that and what i said differ.
>
>aeneas
>
>Jimmy <nob...@usa.net> wrote in message
>news:37cded22...@news.shore.net...
>> On Thu, 26 Aug 1999 15:12:29 -0300, "Aeneas"
<aen...@nbnet.nb.ca>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >wrong....scottish rites go to degree 33 - and i have done my
research.
>> >
>> >aeneas
>>
>>
>> Wrong. The degrees are only conferred to the 32nd. The 33rd is
an
>> _honorary_ degree conferred to a few 32nd degree Masons who
>> dedicate themselves unselfishly to the betterment of man and
>> society. You cannot elect to "take" the 33rd degree.
>>
>> Jimmy
>>
>>
>>
>
>
Show me on this post - Deja - all that VAST evidence to prove that a
man or god named Jesus ever existed...And I mean EVER!.....
No one ever named Jesus Christ ever existed..not in the annals of any
scriptural manuscripts, history, etc...
I'll bet you are naive enough to beleive in "THE ANTICHRIST" coming to
reign also...you can probably PROVE that there is a single being named
"Satan" too!?!?
You know nothing about your religion beyond what your 'shepherd leading
you to the slaughter' tells you...
You know nothing about the man David Icke and even less about the man
you call Jesus..
You must be the simpleton of all time...You believe in a man that hides
himself in the mountains of Arizona and won't come out...What he states
is as far fetched as what Icke says...and I believe both of em...because
they are studied and learned men...
Both state that the Jesus of the NT never existed!
In article <5TYr3.1219$M5....@newsfeed.slurp.net>,
"Sam" <ta...@donet.com> wrote:
> David Icke is a warped New Ager who calls Jesus a mythological figure
> despite the vast evidence that he actually existed. If you look at the
man's
> site you will see that his motivation to call Jesus a mythological
figure is
> so he can ease his conscious because he promotes free sex. Even
homosexual
> sex. David Icke can't have Jesus ruining his immoral life course for
him by
> making him feel guilty so he denounces Jesus as a mythological figure
so he
> doesn't have to be accountable for his actions and what he promotes.
All the
> New Agers believe in Aliens so he fits right in with the agenda of the
> conspiracy that he pretends to be fighting.
>
> See this site for an overview of how the conspirators have created an
> "artificial alien threat" in order to frighten the people most of
which are
> extremely gullible so they would unite under the United Nations one
world
> government.
>
> http://harvest-trust.org/majestyt.htm
>
> Paul Whitehead wrote in message ...
> >
> >
> ><snip>
> >
> >You saying that David Icke is into the reptoids, too?
> >
> >Paul
texas...@my-deja.com wrote in article <7qnhl9$m26$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>...
There was a man, who was crucified for heresy around the described time.
So Jesus _was_ real. As for him being the son of god... That remains and
will forever remain...a faith issue.
His miracles, while well documented, follow patterns that were used to
make characters and leaders more interesting _way_ before he was ever
around.
His utterances, while pretty elaborate, were most certainly edited, re-
edited, translated and edited again, only to be censored then until the
basic bible as we know it today was canonized. And then there followed
numerous other translations, etc...
So you can guess that in the earlier years, when "scientific" study of
such religious texts wasn't all that popular, his story and teachings
were adapted and bent to suit the taste of different preachers and the
potential "flock" they were trying to convert. In fact, the leading
current theory of exegesis of the NT clearly establishes the major
adressees of each of the four evangelists...
It is all the work of man. If there are divine words hidden in there
(which I seriously doubt) then they will have most certainly been dis-
torted by now.
This does _not_ in any way affect my respect for most of the teachings
in the bible. They were way ahead of their time and deserve observation,
regardless of their origin.
Even if God had nothing to do with it all, the teachings still have
merit.
> --
> "It's the message not the messenger that counts"
> S.W. The Reluctant Prophet
Sönke N. Greimann
E O I R
--
Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi
dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam.
I study theology. At the same time I dont believe in any of that crap but
The guy did exhist...albeit far differently from the way christians would
want you to believe. Good example...Jesus is a GREEK name. So no one alled
him Jesus at all. And, as a Rabbi....the odds of him NOT being married are
slim to none.
Did he turn water into wine...walk on water...I doubt it.
-Michael
<texas...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:7qnhl9$m26$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
> Do you know this man personally to say all these things about him?
> or is this slander you made up entirely on your own?
>
> Show me on this post - Deja - all that VAST evidence to prove that a
> man or god named Jesus ever existed...And I mean EVER!.....
>
> No one ever named Jesus Christ ever existed..not in the annals of any
> scriptural manuscripts, history, etc...
>
>As an athiest [sic], I can say that Jesus did exhist [sic]. There is evidene [sic].
>Pocius [sic] Pilout [sic] record [sic] cruxifing [sic] him...man...theres [sic] so
>much of it, its [sic] like saying prove to me that the normans [sic] invaded
>england [sic] in 1066. Where would you begin?
>
>I study theology... etc.
Now hang on just a cotton-pickin' minute here, Lu -- I thought the
Rolling Stones informed us that you are "a man of wealth and taste"
and, of course, one of impeccable erudition.
Are you now attempting to master the Dumb Blonde routine?
Or are you just another in a seemingly endless stream of Martians who
channel absurd drivel to prepare us for the oft prophesied Illuminati
Millenium Rituals of Fourth Density Ascension?
Soenke N. Greimann <grei...@uni-trier.de> wrote in article
<37CFCE85...@uni-trier.de>...
Lucifer <for...@pandemonium.hel> wrote in article
<JhQz3.1282$x17....@news1.rdc1.ab.home.com>...
> As an athiest, I can say that Jesus did exhist. There is evidene. Pocius
> Pilout record cruxifing him...man...theres so much of it, its like saying
> prove to me that the normans invaded england in 1066. Where would you
begin?
>
Dear Mr. Lucifer,
Try studying the english language. You can't spell worth a damn.
--
J.E. Carroll
Jefferson #38
Lothrop #21
GLoTexas
> As an athiest, I can say that Jesus did exhist. There is evidene. Pocius
> Pilout record cruxifing him...man...theres so much of it, its like saying
> prove to me that the normans invaded england in 1066. Where would you begin?
>
> I study theology.
At what grade school? We have some *atrocious* spellers here but your
messages bespeak an seventh or eighth grade education (MAX!!!)
<Balance of foolishness snipped>
Ed King
http://www.masonicinfo.com -- Anti-Masonry: Points of View
Internet newsgroup posting. Copyright 1999. All rights reserved.
Colin Lyne wrote:
> They are anti-Christian, although they pretend to promote a god fearing
> attitude.
>
You say that as if its a bad thing.
:)
Why are you deneigrating an 8th grade education?
Jack Wise
Ed King wrote:
>
> In article <JhQz3.1282$x17....@news1.rdc1.ab.home.com>, Lucifer wrote:
>
< < < SNIP > > >
> > I study theology.
>
> At what grade school? We have some *atrocious* spellers here but your
> messages bespeak an seventh or eighth grade education (MAX!!!)
>
> Ed King
Thank you.
-- A closed mouth gathers no foot.--
In article <01bef5cf$f7779fc0$7192fea9@stevenew>,
"Reluctant Prophet" <stev...@iname.com> wrote:
> How can you say something like that seriously? Jesus has effected this
> world more than any individual who ever lived. Are you claiming the
four
> gospels were made up out of thin air? I don't claim to believe in
their
> total accuracy, as earlier postings of mine have shown, but to say he
never
> existed is a form of denial in my humble, and some would say nutsy,
> opinion.
> --
> "It's the message not the messenger that counts"
> S.W. The Reluctant Prophet
>
> texas...@my-deja.com wrote in article
<7qnhl9$m26$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>...
> >
> >
> > No one ever named Jesus Christ ever existed..not in the annals of
any
> > scriptural manuscripts, history, etc...
> >
> >
>
I refer you to two great books..
The Hiram Key
The Christ Conspiracy..
In article <JhQz3.1282$x17....@news1.rdc1.ab.home.com>,
"Lucifer" <for...@pandemonium.hel> wrote:
> As an athiest, I can say that Jesus did exhist. There is evidene.
Pocius
> Pilout record cruxifing him...man...theres so much of it, its like
saying
> prove to me that the normans invaded england in 1066. Where would you
begin?
>
> I study theology. At the same time I dont believe in any of that crap
but
> The guy did exhist...albeit far differently from the way christians
would
> want you to believe. Good example...Jesus is a GREEK name. So no one
alled
> him Jesus at all. And, as a Rabbi....the odds of him NOT being married
are
> slim to none.
>
> Did he turn water into wine...walk on water...I doubt it.
>
>
I'm sure there both good books. But remember; a book is only as good as the
person who wrote it. There are all kinds of crazy ass books out there. Even
books that say Christ did exhist. So who can you believe? If anything, check
out the credentuals of the authors.
As for saying "No one NAMED Jesus Christ ever exhisted."...well...thats just
playing with words.
Has he influanced the world? Well yes of course. You'de be mad not to agree.
Now, I know what your saying. The Christ we read about, is nothing like the
REAL Christ. Its Christ as myth. Even the name is legend, although
misnamed...
But the symbol of who he is...or even more so...who christians WANT him to
be...has shaped most of the free world.
What your saying is that christians worship and understand a false
misrepresentation of Christ.
Hell yes!
But then again, who dosent. Napoleon was one of historys worst Generals
But try telling a Freanchman that.
=>|:-{>
Nothing is. Read up on Princess Di. People are talking about giving the
worlds most famous welfare mother a monument. Because of her charity work on
land minds?????
She did less than three weeks a year on charity work, and Jody Williams won
a Nobel Prize for her work on ridding land minds so why not biuld a monument
for her? Mother Terresa gave her whole live as charity and I didnt see Elton
John rewrite "Rocket Man" for her.
As a matter of fact...Princess Di and all the jive about her
charities...didnt mention ONE in her will.
Sherlock Holmes never said "Elementory my dear Watson."
James Cagney never said "You dirty rat! You killed my brother!"
In africa, black inslaved blacks, and sold them...whites BOUGHT them. In
fact, there is still slavery in Africa today as blacks continue to enslave
other blacks.
Humphery Bogart never said "play it again, Sam."
The whole world is full of people believing a bunch of crap. So you think it
should be any different for christians? Anytime there is some sort of
movement, there is always the small nucleus that UNDERSTANDS..but as the
masses grab hold..and kinda understand...kinda not..they run away with it
and make it thier own. Look at Angels. People mention all kinds of contact
with angels, little realizing what angels really are. People LOVE that show
touched by an Angel, even though angels are only men.(God hadnt made women
yet, remember?) But its more fun to believe that angels are kinda like super
heros...and that they look like sweet girls.
Yeah, youre right. There was no Jesus Christ..that name applied later. But
the guy did exhist. Is he what the church makes him out to be? Hell no. The
bible has been edited so many times...its redicules and too much to even get
into..so the odds of them understanding what it is they yap about are very
slight.
But there not alone.
Everyone believes in crap in some form or another.
=>|:-{>
In article <37D36074...@jps.net>,
In article <7qoihq$hne$1...@ash.prod.itd.earthlink.net>,
"Michael Carr" <mike...@johneliot.org> wrote:
> Actually Jesus of Nasarith did exist and his family and desendants can
be
> traced. Weither or not he did as the Bible states is a matter of
faith
> which I will not get into.
>
> -Michael
>
> <texas...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
> news:7qnhl9$m26$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
> > Do you know this man personally to say all these things about him?
> > or is this slander you made up entirely on your own?
> >
> > Show me on this post - Deja - all that VAST evidence to prove that a
> > man or god named Jesus ever existed...And I mean EVER!.....
> >
> > No one ever named Jesus Christ ever existed..not in the annals of
any
> > scriptural manuscripts, history, etc...
> >
> > > sex. David Icke can't have Jesus ruining his immoral life course
for
> > him by
> > > making him feel guilty so he denounces Jesus as a mythological
figure
> > so he
> > > doesn't have to be accountable for his actions and what he
promotes.
> > All the
> > > New Agers believe in Aliens so he fits right in with the agenda of
the
> > > conspiracy that he pretends to be fighting.
> > >
> > > See this site for an overview of how the conspirators have created
an
> > > "artificial alien threat" in order to frighten the people most of
> > which are
> > > extremely gullible so they would unite under the United Nations
one
> > world
> > > government.
> > >
> > > http://harvest-trust.org/majestyt.htm
> > >
> > > Paul Whitehead wrote in message ...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > ><snip>
> > > >
> > > >You saying that David Icke is into the reptoids, too?
> > > >
> > > >Paul
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
Thank you.
Tom Krummell
Rosville, CA
==============================
Lucifer wrote:
>
<remainer snipped as irrelevant>
Tom Krummell
Roseville, CA
===============
texas...@my-deja.com wrote:
>
> WELL NOW...so freemasonry also harbours and condones the mastery of
> ignorance! The Hiram Key was authored by two MASONS
<remainder snipped as off-topic>
Tom Krummell
Roseville, CA
===============
texas...@my-deja.com wrote:
>
> Typical christian cop-out ----
> YOu are one of those the the man you worship was talking about!
<remainder snipped as off-topic>
Tom Krummell
Roseville, CA
===============
texas...@my-deja.com wrote:
>
> Typical christian cop-out
-- A closed mouth gathers no foot.--
He said, she said.
Which is of course why some Taoists say, "He who says does not know
and he who knows would not say." And, "The Tao that can be spoken of is
not the real Tao." Or something like that.
Tom Krummell wrote in message <37D4078A...@jps.net>...
Michael S. Kasminoff wrote in message <7reu7m$ocn$1...@winter.news.rcn.net>...
Maily Mail wrote:
> I refuse to believ in Smurfs!
By the way, what color do they turn......when you choke them?
Wanderer