In article <20030221051656.22625.00000
...@mb-ck.aol.com>,
amoderncave
...@aol.com (A Modern Caveman) writes:
>I'm surprised more on this newsgroup don't check in on this topic.
Seduction is, at its worst, and most mechanical, an attempt to build rapport --
and to reveal a shared agenda under it.
A lot of history's best regarded experts on hypnosis have given rapport as the
sine qua non of hypnosis itself - so if hypnosis is a way of building rapport,
then that rapport is the doorway of opportunity to seduction.
The late and mourned Dr. Milton Erickson, indisputably the crown prince of
"covert" hypnosis, spent much of his indomitable professional career attempting
to define hypnosis as "an attention state." But he also mastered what is now
called "utilization theory" - an approach of - not just blindly presenting
clients with artistic suggestions - but finding out, first, and in a methodical
way - what suggestions and emotional "anchors" or "triggers," (as compare the
terms "sign & symbol" as used by the naturalist, Dr. Conrad Lorenz,) are
already fixed in the client's mind - and using them to direct attention, and
thereby guide both hypnosis and hypnotherapy.
Indeed, no matter what the form of mechanistic rapport-building or seduction
technique, beit covert hypnosis (which directs attention) or parlor magic
(which MIS-directs attention) the largest part of holding a stranger's
attention is to KNOW YOUR AUDIENCE. To be able to quickly size them up and
summarize what it is that holds fascination for them.
But if what you offer is not on their menu of choices ... if you have no shared
agenda ... no amount of hypnosis, no matter how deep, will compell your
compelling object of fascination to remain fascinated with YOU ... no matter
how slick a covert hypnotist you may come to be, no matter if you're a parlor
magician skilled enough to hide a Boeing 747 ... you'll have to know when to
give up, and move on.
Therefor, a large prescription in ANY taught or teachable seduction technique
is a reccomendation on knowing when to quit.
... which is, I suppose, why your *OWN* seduction handbook advocates ... and
you'll pardon me if I put it in my own words ... walking out the INSTANT the
woman shows ANY SIGN that she's not willing to have you walk all over her like
a cheap rug.
And that, in it's turn, is probably why you don't have any testimonials from
successful users and readers of your book. ( ... and you know we'd call or
write them for confirmation if you started presenting them, so just keep in
mind how the *big boys* operate!)
But, hey! At least you know your agenda, Li'll Buddy!
That's a big first step for a lot of unsuccessful men, like yourself!
I wish you Good luck, caveboy ...
... (In a reserved, backhanded sort of way.)
" A man's *GOT* to know his limitations. "
-- Clint Eastwood / Magnum Force (Dirty Harry II)
" No sweat on a date. "
-- Maj. Billy Ray Givens, USAF (dec.)
Ontology recapitulates Philology
Sic itur, ad Astra
Dav
id
Ray
Giv
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