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Bubba  
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From: Bubba <ReMoVeLikeal...@iname.com>
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 21:51:33 GMT
Local: Tues, Jul 22 2003 5:51 pm
Subject: Re: OT
On Tue, 22 Jul 2003 17:15:47 -0400, ftwhd <ftwhd@fuckoffspammers>
wrote:

>On Tue, 22 Jul 2003 17:10:51 -0400, ftwhd <ftwhd@fuckoffspammers>
>wrote:

>>http://www.centcom.mil/CENTCOMNews/news_release.asp?NewsRelease=20030...

>On Tuesday, July 22, forces associated with the 101st Airborne
>Division and Special Operations Forces conducted an operation against
>suspected regime figures at a residence in Mosul, Iraq. The site is
>currently being exploited. Four Iraqis were killed in the operation.
>We have confirmed that two of the dead were Saddam’s sons Uday and
>Qusay.

Im all chocked up with emotion too. NOT! As I see it, now they need
Saddam and Osama and they will really be doing well.
Congratulations 101st. Keep up the good work.
Bubba  :-)

 
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From: "TURTLE" <tur...@worldnetla.net>
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 21:04:57 -0500
Local: Tues, Jul 22 2003 10:04 pm
Subject: Re: OT

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> On Tue, 22 Jul 2003 17:10:51 -0400, ftwhd <ftwhd@fuckoffspammers>
> wrote:

>http://www.centcom.mil/CENTCOMNews/news_release.asp?NewsRelease=20030...
t

> On Tuesday, July 22, forces associated with the 101st Airborne
> Division and Special Operations Forces conducted an operation against
> suspected regime figures at a residence in Mosul, Iraq. The site is
> currently being exploited. Four Iraqis were killed in the operation.
> We have confirmed that two of the dead were Saddam's sons Uday and
> Qusay.

This is Turtle.

U say Some Dam day dam's son of Sod  Dam ,  U day and Q say got Resayed at
Mosul but not shaw U Day , Q Say , or Some Dam are still UN slaied.

That Som Dam was a charter ain't he.

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Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 02:12:52 GMT
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Subject: Re: OT
On Tue, 22 Jul 2003 21:04:57 -0500, "TURTLE" <tur...@worldnetla.net>
wrote:

        Damn, the Internet has already reached that new planet they
found, and something out there's posting to newsgroups !

        Hellooooooo  new planet !  WE COME IN PEAS.......er... um...
PEACE.....

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 More options Jul 22 2003, 11:43 pm
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Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 22:40:07 -0500
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Subject: Re: OT

I guess that's the penalty for venting freon in Iraq............

Bob

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 More options Jul 23 2003, 1:04 am
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Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 06:04:05 +0100
Local: Wed, Jul 23 2003 1:04 am
Subject: Re: OT
but then there's this..
http://www.news24.com/News24/World/Iraq/0,,2-10-1460_1391264,00.html

with American losses running at one soldier per day I guess we're all in
need of some good'ole' propaganda -

true or false we love it all......

...remember how we  sucked up the 'jessica rescue' story..
(can't wait to see the 'true story' film hollywood is going to make...i love
a good car crash film ;-)

cheers

richard

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Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 12:21:28 -0500
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Subject: Re: OT

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This is Turtle.

Could not have happen to a Nicer Couple. It sounds harsh but you got to weed
out the crab grass  from a Flower garden. Make it eazy on the crag grass's
off spring out in the yard , but get rid of the crag grass from the flower
bed.

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 More options Jul 24 2003, 2:03 am
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Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 06:47:28 +0100
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Subject: Re: OT
They did their best to arrest the guys, desperate for evidence of WMD...
lol, fucking wankers, 6 men with pistols in a villa and they have to subdue
them with wire guided missiles. What a clutter of fucking nannies they are?

--
Marc O'Brien
http://fridgetech.com

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 More options Jul 24 2003, 9:16 am
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Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 09:13:53 -0700
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Subject: Re: OT
Prob a hell of a lot nicer than those guys in Liberia...

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 More options Jul 24 2003, 9:32 am
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From: pjm@see_my_sig_for_address.com
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 13:32:33 GMT
Local: Thurs, Jul 24 2003 9:32 am
Subject: Re: OT
        I suppose some 'real men' from S.A. could have done better -
if they weren't so busy running away from the local villagers, who are
stealing their land from them with pointy sticks and rocks.

        Gee, I wonder why S.A. is such a leader on the world scene ?

        The 'collecting American International welfare' scene and the
'We Got AIDS' scene, that is.....

On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 09:13:53 -0700, "CBHvac"

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 More options Jul 24 2003, 11:17 am
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Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 16:33:05 +0100
Local: Thurs, Jul 24 2003 11:33 am
Subject: Re: OT
Read up about why the Bush family hired Executive Outcomes. I needn't say
more? Actually, I might add that parliament here even had a dragged out
debate as to the viability of using Mercenary forces to sort problems around
the world because of the 200% success rate of the South African mercenary
company "Executive Outcomes" The largest and most organised mercenary
company in the world with more military hardware than the average nation.
0.5% casualty rate but 4 times more profficient than any other military unit
ever known, said the UK sunday times :)

I needn't say more :)

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 More options Jul 24 2003, 3:57 pm
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From: Don Ocean <oc...@amerion.com>
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 15:04:06 -0500
Local: Thurs, Jul 24 2003 4:04 pm
Subject: Re: OT

Marc O'Brien wrote:

> Read up about why the Bush family hired Executive Outcomes. I needn't say
> more? Actually, I might add that parliament here even had a dragged out
> debate as to the viability of using Mercenary forces to sort problems around
> the world because of the 200% success rate of the South African mercenary
> company "Executive Outcomes" The largest and most organised mercenary
> company in the world with more military hardware than the average nation.
> 0.5% casualty rate but 4 times more profficient than any other military unit
> ever known, said the UK sunday times :)

BS!! And thats a dutcher outfit.. You won't find many O'Briens there!!
;-p


 
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 More options Jul 24 2003, 4:23 pm
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Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 20:23:43 GMT
Local: Thurs, Jul 24 2003 4:23 pm
Subject: Re: OT
On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 15:04:06 -0500, Don Ocean <oc...@amerion.com>
wrote:

>Marc O'Brien wrote:

>> Read up about why the Bush family hired Executive Outcomes. I needn't say
>> more? Actually, I might add that parliament here even had a dragged out
>> debate as to the viability of using Mercenary forces to sort problems around
>> the world because of the 200% success rate of the South African mercenary
>> company "Executive Outcomes" The largest and most organised mercenary
>> company in the world with more military hardware than the average nation.
>> 0.5% casualty rate but 4 times more profficient than any other military unit
>> ever known, said the UK sunday times :)

>BS!! And thats a dutcher outfit.. You won't find many O'Briens there!!
>;-p

        I hear their parliament had a dragged out debate on who to get
to wipe their bums for them, too, 'cause they couldn't figure out how
to do it themselves - kept getting shit on their fingers.  Ended up
hiring a couple of SA's for that, too.  The SA's still get shit on
their fingers, but they don't mind it so much, they're used to it from
back home.  After the kaffas took their homes away from them by
yelling really loud and scaring them off, they had no paper at all.

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 More options Jul 24 2003, 4:52 pm
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Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 20:50:00 GMT
Subject: Re: OT
On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 15:04:06 -0500, Don Ocean <oc...@amerion.com>
wrote:

>Marc O'Brien wrote:

>> Read up about why the Bush family hired Executive Outcomes. I needn't say
>> more? Actually, I might add that parliament here even had a dragged out
>> debate as to the viability of using Mercenary forces to sort problems around
>> the world because of the 200% success rate of the South African mercenary
>> company "Executive Outcomes" The largest and most organised mercenary
>> company in the world with more military hardware than the average nation.
>> 0.5% casualty rate but 4 times more profficient than any other military unit
>> ever known, said the UK sunday times :)

>BS!! And thats a dutcher outfit.. You won't find many O'Briens there!!
>;-p

"Executive Outcomes, the now defunct mercenary firm based in Pretoria,
South Africa, that was manned mostly by former members of the South
African Defense Force, proved to be a decisive factor in the outcome
of some civil wars in Africa."

        Oh geez, they can beat a bunch of 12 year old boys in sandals
and shorts waving AK-47's and sticks.  I'm impressed.

        Here's another of their impressive victories :

"Executive Outcomes is the most infamous mercenary company in
operation today. Unlike traditional mercenary companies, it operates
as the heavy partner in a web of related companies. Sandline
international is such a sister company: 170 elite South African dogs
of war were hired to crush the Bougainville freedom Fighters for $22m.

In 1969 our favourite ozzie mining corp CRARTZ opened a copper mine on
Bougainville, Papua New Guinea (PNG). The island's inhabitants
protested against the environmental and social devastation to no avail
until 1988 when they formed the Bougainville Revolutionary Army (BRA).
They have held their own, against mounting military pressure, armed
with home-made rifles, WW2 machine guns and bows and arrows (3)."

        'Elite dogs of war' ???  Sounds like a common pack of mangy
flea-bitten SA's to me.

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Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 03:34:02 +0100
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Subject: Re: OT
Mogadishu :-)

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 More options Jul 24 2003, 10:33 pm
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Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 03:49:06 +0100
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Subject: Re: OT
Childish

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 More options Jul 24 2003, 10:44 pm
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Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 04:00:39 +0100
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BTW, exactly which part is bullshit. And what nation does the sir name
"Barlow", as in Eben Barlow, originate?

Me thinks residential mechanics shouldn't worry their little minds with much
else.


 
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 More options Jul 24 2003, 11:57 pm
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Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 22:56:02 -0500
Local: Thurs, Jul 24 2003 11:56 pm
Subject: Re: OT

Not from an Irish Pub!!

> Me thinks residential mechanics shouldn't worry their little minds with much
> else.

Actually Mark, I am proud to be a so-called resdential Mechanic. You
could be
young enough to be my Grandson, if I hadn't been careful about my
sexlife.
I have retired twice...Thats from 2 Professions. I guess being a sloppy
drunk
commercial whatever it is you are...Is much better then being a
residential
mechanic. My guess is that your mouth would get your butt kicked bloody
and
tossed out by the average homeowner here in South Dakota. I really stay
quite busy
with this low-classed residential mechanics job.. I doubt that you could
pass
the contractors or masters test. One of my residential jobs tomorrow is
an office
complex. By the way I even get my hands dirty once in a while.. And you?

 
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Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 04:14:28 GMT
Local: Fri, Jul 25 2003 12:14 am
Subject: Re: OT
On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 22:56:02 -0500, Don Ocean <oc...@amerion.com>
wrote:

>Actually Mark, I am proud to be a so-called resdential Mechanic. You
>mechanic. My guess is that your mouth would get your butt kicked bloody
>and
>tossed out by the average homeowner here in South Dakota. I really stay

        My guess is that he's only a 'big man' on the Internet, and
face-to-face he turns into a little ass-kissing toady.

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Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 21:25:57 -0500
Local: Thurs, Jul 24 2003 10:25 pm
Subject: Re: OT

"Marc O'Brien" <alt-h...@fridgetech.com> wrote in message

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> Read up about why the Bush family hired Executive Outcomes. I needn't say
> more? Actually, I might add that parliament here even had a dragged out
> debate as to the viability of using Mercenary forces to sort problems
around
> the world because of the 200% success rate of the South African mercenary
> company "Executive Outcomes" The largest and most organised mercenary
> company in the world with more military hardware than the average nation.
> 0.5% casualty rate but 4 times more profficient than any other military
unit
> ever known, said the UK sunday times :)

> I needn't say more :)

this is turtle.

One more thing here. We need them to find Soddam some where's over there and
we need then to just get his ass and not talk how good they are. We need
action and not lip service from down under. If the U.S. thought they was
that good , they would go hire them at $1 Mil each plus Expences to just go
get his ass. The U.S. must be doing something right for we got 2 of them and
just need one more.

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Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 10:48:20 +0100
Local: Fri, Jul 25 2003 5:48 am
Subject: Re: OT
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Evasive nonsense..

> > Me thinks residential mechanics shouldn't worry their little minds with
much
> > else.

> Actually Mark, I am proud to be a so-called resdential Mechanic.

I never said you weren't. Pride is a personal thing, in fact, the fact that
you are a keen participant in alt.hvac tells me that you are quite likely to
be a proud trade participant..

> You
> could be
> young enough to be my Grandson, if I hadn't been careful about my
> sexlife.

Yes, go on, get to the point.

> I have retired twice...Thats from 2 Professions.

Never got to be sufficienty good at them to want to stay? Well, many choose
professions earlier on in life which they just don't fit in with but then do
find more appropriate professions later on.

> I guess being a sloppy
> drunk
> commercial whatever it is you are...Is much better then being a
> residential
> mechanic.

Well, quite frankly, yes, whatever it is I am is pretty much superior to
what you ARE.

> My guess is that your mouth would get your butt kicked bloody
> and
> tossed out by the average homeowner here in South Dakota.

Like the guess about WMD? Or the guess that I might think you are without
pride?

> I really stay
> quite busy
> with this low-classed residential mechanics job.

Yes, well, loyally returning to fix ones mistakes is a form of pride. Jokes
aside, I would have expected, as a matter of statistics, that after just a
year or two in a country as populated as yours, that one could be quite
busy, especially if one has pride. Pride, however, does not beget technical
wizardry.

> I doubt that you could
> pass
> the contractors or masters test.

And I'm sure I could pick holes in it and go on to make valid suggestions
for it's improvement.

> One of my residential jobs tomorrow is
> an office
> complex.

You seem a little confused, an office complex is... oh never mind.

> By the way I even get my hands dirty once in a while.. And you?

I couldn't really get more specific than "once in a while", hands clean,
hands dirty, never was accurately aware of the difference.

You're not thinker, are you Don, you're just a nice easy going guy purposely
without too many complications? :-)


 
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Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 10:52:30 +0100
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Subject: Re: OT
The US wants SH dead, else potentially they could be proven, once and for
all, wrong about the WMD BS.

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Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 14:08:09 +0100
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> On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 10:52:30 +0100, "Marc O'Brien"
> <alt-h...@fridgetech.com> wrote:

> >The US wants SH dead, else potentially they could be proven, once and for
> >all, wrong about the WMD BS.

> What WMD are you talking about?

Lol, exactly :)

> Hey Marc how about making a nitrogen p/t in F and C, instead of just
> C.  :)

Sure, Mike, let me see if I can do that this weekend, should just take a
minute.


 
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"ftwhd" <ftwhd@fuckoffspammers> wrote in message > >
> They wil find them as soon as the CIA gets them all planted.  :0

Absolutely, even if they found genuine wmd, it's too late for the european
media to be considered genuine. The european and British media and people
now accept it as cold fact that they never existed.

> >> Hey Marc how about making a nitrogen p/t in F and C, instead of just
> >> C.  :)

> >Sure, Mike, let me see if I can do that this weekend, should just take a
> >minute.

> >> Mike

> What would be nice would be a chart that can used on the job for those
> of us that dont have a puter in the truck.

Mike, I just had a look at it, the calculator that is. I hadn't done so for
a long time, it would be easy to generate a spread sheet column layout
because there are 2 known initial and 2 finals, but if you get yourself a
cheap palm 500 series, I'll be putting all those calculators into palm
format when work gets a little quieter. I need most of them myself.

 
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